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Case Study: Dealing with Self-Esteeem and Ego
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our way through a series on biblical counseling for everybody.
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And so I'll pray for us, and then we can get moving.
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So let's pray together.
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Lord, we thank You for this time.
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We thank You for the opportunity to gather.
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And we pray now that You would help us as we look at Your Word
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and try to understand more and more how to be people who come alongside one another
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to support one another, encourage one another,
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help one another step more and more towards maturity in Christ.
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So we ask for that help by the Spirit.
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In Jesus' name, Amen.
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All right, so there's a handout.
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Simon's got handouts at the back if you need one.
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All right, so we have been working through,
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trying to understand more and more some principles,
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some practical tips on how to come alongside one another
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as Christian friends, counselors,
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people who support one another in the walk of faith.
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And so our goal in this series is just to grow into that more and more.
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So tonight what we're going to do is begin a case study.
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We'll do one case study tonight,
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and I'll be teaching in this series two or three more times,
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and every time I'm going to do a case study.
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So a case study of examining a particular issue,
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some of the most common issues I'll pick,
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and we'll try to look at how might you help somebody else walk through that issue as a Christian.
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So some ways to think about it and look at it,
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really just applying some of the things Ryan talked about last time.
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All right, so let's get into it.
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The case study tonight is going to be dealing with the problem of self-esteem and ego,
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which is a universal issue according to Genesis 3.
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So let's think about that together.
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But first let me just remind you of a couple things we've said already
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just to kind of reorient into what we're doing here.
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We are dealing with something that's very similar to the issue of evangelism,
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and that's that a lot of times in church we get the sense that,
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we've had the sense maybe in the past that ministers are the primary ones doing the work of ministry,
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evangelism, counseling, meeting people's spiritual needs.
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And I've got here printed Ephesians 4, 11 to 12,
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and it says here that Jesus gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds, and teachers
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to equip the saints for the work of ministry.
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So here we see very explicit instructions from Paul
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that tell us that all the times God gives gifts to people in the church to lead the church,
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from the time of the apostles to evangelists to the missionary evangelists like Paul
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to the prophets, which is just a preacher really, teachers.
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He gives gifts not so that the people with the gifts will do all the ministry,
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but so that the people will example the ministry for everybody to do, to equip all the saints.
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So if you're a Christian tonight, it's your job, our job together,
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to do the work of ministry, to do it all together.
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That's what we learn here.
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And so Richard Baxter here says, this is his reflection.
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This is a 17th century minister.
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It was quite famous at the time, English minister.
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He says,
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Counseling is for resolving our doubts,
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helping against our sins,
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helping fight our sins,
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for direction in our duties,
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and for an increase of knowledge of saving grace.
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So he's saying that we're all meant to come alongside one of each other for at least those purposes.
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And that's a calling that's universal,
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that comes across the whole church.
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And so we said in week one that there is a gap in our lives.
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For all of us, we all feel this gap between who we are right now,
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the negative emotions you experience,
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the ways that you struggle with pride or a sin pattern that you know in your life right now,
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in the person you will one day be in Jesus Christ.
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So one day,
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every single issue that you struggle with that is sucking away your joy,
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will be gone.
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One day.
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So there's a gap.
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When Christ comes to get you,
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he will renew you so fully,
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that you will be so full of joy,
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that you will only have faint memories of the problems you used to face.
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Now what counseling is there for,
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is to help us in the path of sanctification.
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What we're trying to do is to close that gap as much as we can in this life, right?
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That's sanctification.
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Moving from being called justification to the moment of glorification,
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where we will become fully like Jesus.
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We want to close that gap as much as we can.
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Not simply to make progress,
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not simply to check that off our to-do list,
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not out of performance,
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but because actually you can have joy.
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You can have real joy the more you grow.
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And so we're trying to help each other grow.
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That's really all we're talking about in this series.
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And so Hebrews 3.13 gives you a really explicit command about that.
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So if we want to ask, where do we get this from in the Bible?
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Hebrews 3.13, which is, Hebrews is a sermon, right?
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And the preacher says to the church in Hebrews 3,
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exhort one another every day as long as it is called today.
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In other words, he's saying,
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while you have today, exhort one another.
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Now, exhort sounds like a negative word,
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but it's the Greek word parakaleo.
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And the Greek word parakaleo simply means
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one who comes alongside somebody else and walks with them.
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So the paraclete in the New Testament is who?
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The Holy Spirit.
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Yeah, so exactly.
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We're being told in a way that's similar to the way God comes,
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the Spirit ministers to us,
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that we are charged to come alongside other people
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and minister to them.
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And so we're just calling that counseling.
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Parakaleo, one another.
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Come alongside one another.
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That's it.
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And so we want to universalize this.
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We want everybody in our church to have a dear Christian friend
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that they are walking alongside in their life,
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that's talking with them about their issues,
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that you're able to confess your sins to one another,
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you're able to grow together in the same direction.
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That's all this really means.
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So let's think about this case study.
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How can you help somebody?
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And, of course, ourselves.
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This applies to all of us,
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but we're trying to think how we can help other people
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with the issue of esteem, self-esteem and ego.
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So the first, I've just listed some things to pay attention to here.
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There's eight.
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The first couple are prerequisites.
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First couple things are,
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before we deal and help other people in our lives,
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we need to be in a path where we are focusing on our own devotional life.
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That's really all.
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So number one,
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we must be actively addressing our own negative emotions
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and devotion before God in order to help other people.
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So all I mean by that is
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not,
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are you extremely spiritually mature
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and therefore ready to walk alongside somebody else in the Christian life?
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That's not the question here at all or the idea here at all.
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Instead,
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are you limping with the Lord
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in a forward-facing direction?
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Limping, struggling forward.
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That's really the idea.
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So do you have a fight in you for a devotional life?
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Do you have a fight in you to know yourself enough to say,
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these are my idols?
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Do you have enough fight right now in your heart to say,
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I'm able to look at myself and recognize the hidden sins?
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So, and I want that.
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That's all we're talking about.
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A real life,
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not of total victory,
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because that's glorification,
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but a life where you are intentionally seeking sanctification.
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So that's where we've got to be.
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That's a prereq for being able to help other people.
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So as long as we can sit alongside somebody else
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who's walking the path of the Christian life,
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but maybe struggling and say,
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me too.
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This is how I've been fighting that.
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This is how I've been dealing with that.
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That's really what we're talking about here.
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Now secondly,
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remember the principles of
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parakaleo,
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of coming alongside one another.
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Number two.
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Now I'm not going to go through these
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because this is what we did
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the first couple meetups for this series.
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But I'll just list them.
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Number one,
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come and meet with Christian friends,
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quick to listen,
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active listening,
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ready to hear.
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Number two,
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pray for compassion and understanding
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prior to meeting with them.
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Be very intentional about that.
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Number three,
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meet them where they are.
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So don't be surprised by their lack of growth.
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You know,
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so if somebody confesses something to you
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and you immediately,
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it's like,
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goodness gracious,
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you know,
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that doesn't,
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they don't want to meet with you anymore.
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Okay.
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They're,
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they feel like they've,
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they've been the object of your gaze.
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They want somebody who can say,
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I want to help.
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I want to walk alongside you in this.
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Number four,
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remember the goal.
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The goal is encouragement,
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building up.
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The goal is to help them take a step.
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Your dear friend,
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to take a step towards Christ.
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Trust,
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however that might look.
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Number five,
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be ready to carry their burden with them.
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To say,
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you know,
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I'll,
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I'll stick with you in this as long as it takes,
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as long as you want me to.
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Number six,
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be trustworthy.
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It's between you and them.
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It's,
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it's just you guys.
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Only expand that circle if they're,
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if they want you to,
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if you ask permission.
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And then number seven,
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remember that all scripture is useful.
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So we've got to have some ability.
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So this is where the counseling comes in.
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This is where the parakaleoing really becomes effective.
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It's an ability to take the Bible
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and to take God's word
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and apply it to people's lives.
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So some ability,
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not,
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not like you've been to seminary,
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nothing like that,
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not at all,
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but simply,
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and sometimes you go to seminary
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and you,
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you walk away
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and you're not as good as you were before.
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Maybe,
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but an ability,
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a heartfelt ability to take a text
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and to help somebody else feel,
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feel the power of that text for them.
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So that's,
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that's what we mean by case study.
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Okay.
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So let's talk about the problem
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for 15 minutes of esteem and ego.
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What is that problem?
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So we're listening to a dear friend.
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We're looking at our own hearts.
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We're recognizing a problem
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with what is called self-esteem.
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Okay.
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Let me try,
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let's see if anybody's willing.
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What do you,
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what do we mean by,
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what do you think of?
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I should ask,
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let me ask it this way.
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What do you think of
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when I mentioned the problem
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of esteem and ego?
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Any synonyms,
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any just single word answers
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or a full sentence,
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either way,
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but any thoughts?
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Pride,
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yeah.
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So pride or despair.
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Yeah.
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Pride and despair.
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Yeah.
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I think that's,
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that's insightful.
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Come back around to that.
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Yep.
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You can have low self-esteem
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and feel so inferior
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that it becomes
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an inferiority complex,
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which is a reverse type
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of pride,
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right?
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Yeah.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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Really good,
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thoughtful answers there.
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So all we mean by this
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is the problem of esteem.
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What is esteem?
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Esteem is estimation,
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right?
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There's a family of words there,
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and it means the,
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the,
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the inward look at yourself
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to ask the question,
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do I have value?
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So when you esteem yourself,
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the most basic sense of that word
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etymologically is,
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am I valuable?
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Do I have value?
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And you can have high self-esteem,
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right?
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Which is very obvious,
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big,
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boastful pride,
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right?
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So we,
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we know somebody,
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we know if we're listening
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carefully to a friend,
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if we're walking
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alongside them,
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we can usually recognize
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pretty obviously
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if they struggle
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with boasting.
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That's a sure sign
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of a,
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of a high self-esteem issue.
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Another sign would be
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constantly turning
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conversations
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back to themselves.
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Another sign would be
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one-upmanship,
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right?
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So a constant need
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to tell a better story
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than the story
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you just told.
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And we can think
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of hundreds of more ways
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where high self-esteem,
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arrogant self-esteem,
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a high regard of self
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comes out very clearly
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and very explicitly.
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And then,
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like Jean mentioned,
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you can have a very low
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view of self.
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So,
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some,
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some folks really struggle
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with self-loathing
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and self-hatred
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and they're asking
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the question,
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am I worth anything?
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Am I valuable?
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And so we're always running,
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every single person,
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so the reason I chose this
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is because there's nobody
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that's not running
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this rat race,
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alright?
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There's nobody
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that's not on this hamster wheel.
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It's just where are you
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with it?
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That's all.
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So there's a sense
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in which we never graduate
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from being
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psychological S1s.
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It's a psychological S1.
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It's where you walk
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into every room
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and you think,
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what does everybody
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in this room
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think about me?
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Right?
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That's the psychology
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of an S1.
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And,
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and that's,
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that's true of all of us
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in a sense.
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So that happens at work,
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that happens in the local church,
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that happens.
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And you better believe
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that ministers are incredibly prone.
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Better believe that,
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that they're in the hamster race
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and the rat race,
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hamster wheel and rat race
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every week of,
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I'm only as valuable
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as the sermon was
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last weekend.
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Right?
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That's something
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that has to be mortified
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constantly
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in a minister's life.
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And so we're all living
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in this issue
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of ego and esteem.
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So it's a really common problem.
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I'll give you a couple more examples.
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If you're a parent at all,
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or if you've worked
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with kids and teens,
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you see it.
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Kids and teens wear this
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much more outwardly
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and explicitly.
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But,
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the need to perform
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is a need that we never graduate from.
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And so,
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all of us could probably
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tell stories
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of our own personal struggles
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with this in the workplace,
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in the university,
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in family.
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It happens all the time
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in family.
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Even people vying for love
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between parents
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or spouse or sibling.
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So we're always running this.
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Okay, let me ask you.
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Where might you take somebody
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to help them deal with this?
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Number four says here,
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talk briefly maybe
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about your own struggles
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in ego
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and low self-esteem
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or high self-esteem,
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but then let me jump
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to number five.
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This is where counseling
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starts to really happen.
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And that's when you can
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effectively,
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meaningfully,
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sincerely
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use what God says
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to help somebody's life,
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to help their heart
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and soul.
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Alright, so,
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let me ask a question again.
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Any passages,
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any stories,
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anything that comes
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to your mind,
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okay if not,
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but I think there's
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more than one answer
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to this,
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to dealing with the problem
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of self-esteem
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and pride,
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low self-esteem,
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high self-esteem,
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really there's
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the same types
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of solutions
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that we need?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so,
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you know,
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you can think of
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the steadfast love
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of the Lord
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in some of the Psalms.
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He is my refuge,
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my strength,
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my ever-present shield,
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Psalm 3,
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a shield all around me,
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no matter what
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anybody thinks about me.
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Yeah.
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So,
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we walk in every room
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and we think,
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at the bottom of our souls,
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what does everybody
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in this room
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think about me?
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What other passages
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might help us
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deal with that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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that's good.
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Yeah,
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Christ's recovery
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of Peter's heart
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after such shame.
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Peter went back
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to fishing,
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right,
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because that was
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his original day job
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before Jesus
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has called him
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because he thought,
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I'm out,
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I'm out.
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You know,
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I denied Christ,
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I'm on the outside
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looking in,
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he will never love me again
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and yet he comes to him
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and says,
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get out of the boat,
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come to the shore,
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let's have breakfast together,
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right,
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that's good.
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That's a nice narratival
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story of what Christ
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has done
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that could be used.
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Let me point you
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to one tonight
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that I think
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is really helpful
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and I've used this
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in prayer quite often.
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I've used this
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on my heart.
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This has been a passage
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that I've come back
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to constantly
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to deal with
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the issues of ego
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and it is
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in 1 Corinthians 4.
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So,
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if you were to read
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the full section,
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you would go
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from probably
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1 Corinthians
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midway through
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chapter 3
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through chapter 4
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with somebody
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but let me just
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point you to
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1 Corinthians 4
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and I'll just read
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a couple verses
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for us
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just from
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verse 2
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for a few
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verses.
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Paul says,
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moreover,
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it's required
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of stewards
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that they be found
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faithful.
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He's talking about
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pastors,
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ministers there.
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But with me,
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it is a very small thing.
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It's a very small thing.
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I've learned,
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he's telling us,
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to make this a small thing
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in my life.
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That I should be judged
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by you
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or by any
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human court.
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In fact,
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I do not even judge myself.
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I'm not currently aware
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of anything against myself
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but I am not thereby
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acquitted.
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It is the Lord
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who judges me.
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Okay,
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in this passage,
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Paul is
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dealing with an issue
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in the Corinthian church
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that he had planted
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where
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Apollos
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and Peter
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had come through later
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and everybody's been
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saying in Corinth,
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Peter's better than Paul,
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Apollos is better
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than Peter
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and Paul.
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Apollos was such
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a better preacher
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than Paul ever was
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and
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then they're saying,
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then others are saying,
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Apollos discipled me
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so I rank
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before you
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because Paul,
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you know,
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wasn't as good
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of a public speaker
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as Apollos was
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and so there's all
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these sorts of issues
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going on like that.
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So everybody's playing
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the comparison game.
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Everybody is
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and Paul is writing
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to deal with that problem
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and Paul,
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like he does
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in other places,
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is saying,
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I have learned
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in my time
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with the Lord,
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my devotional life,
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a secret,
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a secret of contentment
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and the secret
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of contentment
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is this,
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I do not care
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what you say
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about me
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and I don't care
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and then he shocks
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because you see
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that's exactly
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what the modern world
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says as well.
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So a person
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might be getting
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counsel
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to struggle,
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they're struggling
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so much with feeling
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that they have no value
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because they're worried
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about what everybody
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else is saying
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about them
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and they're asking
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why is this,
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why don't I have
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a relationship
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that I want,
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why don't I have
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the job success
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and career that I want,
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why don't I have
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this or that,
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right,
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everybody's asking
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questions like that,
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we all are
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and Paul comes
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and says
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what modern
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counselors will say,
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you don't need
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to care about
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other people's opinions
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but then the modern
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counselor often
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will turn and say
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all you need
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to care about
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is what?
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your own opinion
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of yourself,
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you need to look
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inside and you need
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to think,
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look,
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I'm happy with who
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I am,
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I've got the resources
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within me
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to find contentment
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and that's the shock
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of this passage
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for a modern reader
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is Paul comes
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and says,
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I don't even care
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what I think
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about me
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so I do not
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trust my opinion
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of myself,
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right,
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and it's real key
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to contentment
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and joy in your life
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to not trust your opinion
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about yourself
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and he's saying
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I don't trust my opinion,
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I don't trust your opinion
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Corinthian church
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and I don't trust
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the opinion I have
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about me
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and he uses the language
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of judge,
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why?
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Because he's taking it
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into the courtroom
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and he's saying
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you have stuck me
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in the dock
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and you've put yourself
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on the bench
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and said Paul
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was not as good
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of a speaker
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as Apollos
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and Paul,
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you know,
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therefore Paul
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just didn't really
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leave the legacy
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around here
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that people came
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after him too
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and he's saying
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I won't sit
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underneath that judgment
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I won't let my heart
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sit underneath that
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and I won't let my heart
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sit underneath
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my own judgments
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about myself
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and then he gives
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a solution
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so for the person
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that you're walking
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alongside
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and for all of us
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tonight
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we need to hear
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probably to some degree
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every single day
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the pronouncement
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all that matters
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is what God
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says about me
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he's the only judge
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that really matters
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he's the only one
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that has the right
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to look at me
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from the bench
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and put me in the dock
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and if you read
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the rest of this passage
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what you realize
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is what
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Paul goes on
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to talk about
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what God does say
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in an implicit way
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so what God says
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about you
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is that
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when you look at Christ
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you can say
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he regards me
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as a prince
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and a princess
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he regards me
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as a son
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and a daughter
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he regards me
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as the one
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that no matter
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what I do
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no matter what
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he will still
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get down on his knee
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accept my teary
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head into his shoulder
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and give me a hug
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and bring me home again
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he's a tender father
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that's what he's saying
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okay so what does
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a person need
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who's either struggling
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with deep self-loathing
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deep self-loathing
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or big arrogant pride
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they both need
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the same thing
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they need to be told
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see both
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both are pride issues
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because both people
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are thinking
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all I care about
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is what everybody
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else thinks about me
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or all I care about
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is what I think about me
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and how I feel
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both are pride issues
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and they can either
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lead to total self-hatred
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or total self-love
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big self-love
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right
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and competition
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it's all competition
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and both persons
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need to hear the same thing
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they need to hear
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all that matters
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is what the Lord
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says about you
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and when you hear that
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it will really humble
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the prideful person
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because if they're being honest
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what the Lord says about you
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is you're a big sinner
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in need of a big savior
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and you're not great
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apart from the redemptive
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work of Jesus Christ
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and for the self-loathing person
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they need to hear
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do you know what the Lord
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says about you
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do you know how much
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the Lord loves you
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do you know how much
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he's promised
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he will never let you go
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you know that he regards you
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as a prince and princess
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in his kingdom
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that he wants to give you
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the inheritance
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that he's giving
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Jesus Christ himself
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right
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alright so what
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what do you do with that
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as a counselor
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then you take that
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and you try to massage
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that into their hearts
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not because you're trying
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to be manipulative
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but because it's true
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and number six here
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is prescribe
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some spiritual exercises
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now what do I mean by this
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okay just like
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you've got to work out
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you know if you want to
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get stronger
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you've got to have
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resistance in your life
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you've got to exercise
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something like that
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in the same way
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our souls
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much more importantly
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have to have exercise
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physical training
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Paul says is of some value
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but he's trying to point
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to the more important thing
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and that's spiritual training
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so there does have to be
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spiritual training
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in our lives
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so one of the pieces
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that may be missing
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in point one
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and then here
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in our lives
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in my life
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in your life
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right now
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is I'm not taking
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seriously enough
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the discipline
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of spiritual exercise
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and they need
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spiritual exercise too
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so what does that look like
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it can look like
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a number of different things
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we could talk about
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the normal means of grace
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so one of the questions
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I want to ask a person
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who's really struggling
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with their heart
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with too much pride
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or too low of a view
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of the self
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is I want to say
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are you going to church
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do you just
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you know
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you might struggle
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and not want to
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but you need to be there
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you need to get out of bed
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you need to go to church
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especially the person
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that's self-loathing
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I want to just
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connect them
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and ask
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are you in the normal
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means of corporate grace
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the corporate means of grace
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that God's given us
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but then I want to turn
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and talk about their private lives
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and help them
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and say
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and say it through the lens of
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this is what has helped me
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this is what
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this is how I've thought about this
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this is what has really been
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helpful to my life
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and my heart
-
and the most important thing
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I think
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I can say
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quickly
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is this
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they really need
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to learn
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or be helped
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with the idea
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of Christian meditation
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so what is Christian meditation
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Christian meditation
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is not vacating
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the mind
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of content
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like in Buddhist meditation
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or something like that
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not at all
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Christian meditation
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we see all across the Psalms
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and that's the daily
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consistent pattern
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of talking to yourself
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about what God says
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so David does this
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all the time
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in the Psalms
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he says
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bless the Lord
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oh my soul
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right
-
who's he talking to
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in that Psalm
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he's talking to himself
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he's saying
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David
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you bless the Lord
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oh my soul
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soul
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you've got to
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you've got to get yourself
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in gear
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and start blessing the Lord
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praising God
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right
-
he's actually talking to himself
-
and then he's letting that
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roll into prayer
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so one of the things
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I would really
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say to a person
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that's struggling
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with big pride
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or self-loathing
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and we've gotten to have
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an honest conversation
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about that
-
and I've said
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you know
-
1 Corinthians 4
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all that matters
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is what God says
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I would say
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why don't you
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every single day
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for the next seven days
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every morning
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read that passage
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1 Corinthians 4
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1 to 4
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and then just sit there
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in ten minutes
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with your eyes closed
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and let it soak over you
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this morning
-
as I go to work
-
as I go to perform
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at my job
-
as I go to perform
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in public spaces
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all that matters
-
is what the Lord
-
says about me
-
all that matters
-
is what the Lord
-
says about me
-
look to Christ
-
let that soak in
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over and over
-
and then
-
after five or so minutes
-
of just reflection
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on that
-
let it roll into prayer
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Lord work this
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into my soul
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change me
-
change me
-
plead with the Lord
-
and then
-
that would be one
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there's other
-
spiritual practices
-
and exercises
-
that they could have
-
and they may need
-
but for the lack of time
-
I'll move on
-
and then from there
-
what you do
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as a dear Christian friend
-
a good Christian friend
-
is you make a plan
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to meet again
-
and to address
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this issue
-
in a week
-
and let's say
-
let's meet back up
-
I want to ask you
-
how that went
-
I want to ask you
-
if you feel like
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there's been change
-
I want to ask you
-
what the condition
-
of your soul
-
is seven days from now
-
in regard to this
-
you could also ask
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questions like
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what other passages
-
could we look at
-
together next time
-
say do that for seven days
-
and then next time
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why don't we look
-
together
-
at this specific psalm
-
just read it together
-
and pray it together
-
next time
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you could ask
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from there
-
what book
-
could we read
-
what book of the bible
-
what book
-
so in this instance
-
I would highly recommend
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short books are wonderful
-
for helping people
-
I would say
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I would love to read
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Tim Keller's
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The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness
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with you
-
can we do
-
I'll buy it
-
I'll bring it to you next time
-
do this for seven days
-
let me bring this book
-
to you next time
-
and let's walk through it together
-
and then lastly
-
we said this
-
a few weeks back
-
but make sure that
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you never leave
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a meeting like this
-
a meeting
-
walking with somebody
-
without praying
-
so pray for them
-
encourage them
-
and then I've just listed
-
finally at the very end
-
use calls
-
and text messages
-
so the
-
the unfortunate thing
-
about the modern world
-
we live in
-
is that we can all
-
be reached all the time
-
yeah
-
and
-
the beautiful thing
-
is that
-
it's so quick
-
and easy
-
to reach somebody
-
and so it's
-
it's a tough call
-
on that
-
but
-
use
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text messages
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for ministry
-
use calls
-
for ministry
-
it's
-
you don't
-
you don't have to be
-
getting together
-
as often
-
maybe
-
if you're just
-
checking in
-
and saying
-
hey
-
I just prayed
-
for you
-
did you read
-
1 Corinthians 4
-
this morning
-
1 to 4
-
and meditate on it
-
I thought about it
-
I read it
-
I thought about it
-
I'm praying it
-
for you today
-
get back in
-
if you haven't done it
-
get back in
-
right
-
so this is
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this is using
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the tools we have
-
in modern technology
-
to really work truth
-
into somebody's life
-
okay
-
let me give you
-
a challenge
-
as we close
-
the challenge
-
is just
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I'm saying this to me
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I'm saying this to all of us
-
when we're talking about this
-
and doing a series like this
-
we go back to
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Ephesians 4
-
and we learn
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all of us are called
-
all of us are called
-
to the ministry
-
of exhortation
-
and that's all
-
we've been describing
-
is the ministry
-
of exhortation
-
parakalea
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coming alongside
-
so wherever you are
-
right now
-
the challenge is
-
we should all
-
in the light of that
-
be receiving
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Paul's call
-
God's call
-
in our lives
-
right now
-
to take a next step
-
in that ministry
-
so maybe the next step
-
towards a more meaningful
-
ministry
-
of parakalea
-
coming alongside somebody
-
is just to say
-
you know what
-
tonight I realize
-
I've got to get
-
my devotional life
-
under grips
-
not because that
-
saves me
-
no it does not
-
but because
-
I need the Lord
-
the Spirit
-
to be dealing
-
with my heart
-
in order that I can
-
help other people
-
deal with their hearts
-
so tonight
-
it may just simply be
-
that the next step
-
of being a counselor
-
is to actually
-
let the Holy Spirit
-
be counseling you
-
in morning devotion
-
that might be
-
all that you take away
-
and so
-
the issue here
-
is not
-
who in the room
-
has 100% devotional
-
life every single
-
day perfectly
-
nobody does
-
right
-
nobody
-
are you just
-
simply taking
-
limping steps
-
forward
-
that's all we're
-
talking about
-
in growth
-
in this area
-
and then
-
if you feel like
-
you are in a place
-
right now
-
where God is
-
working in your life
-
he's dealing
-
with your emotions
-
he's helping you
-
see idols
-
fighting negative
-
emotions that are
-
coming up
-
and it's a struggle
-
but at least
-
you're in the struggle
-
you're in the fight
-
then the next step
-
could be
-
who has God
-
very naturally
-
put in my life
-
right now
-
ideally in St. Columbus
-
but maybe externally
-
that's great too
-
to say
-
could we have
-
a more meaningful
-
regular meet up
-
together
-
once a month
-
twice a month
-
and answer
-
a few questions
-
how have you
-
been
-
in your
-
spiritual life
-
your soul
-
have you been
-
meeting with God
-
in the early mornings
-
whatever the question
-
lists need to be
-
depending on your
-
circumstances
-
taking a step
-
of saying
-
could we meet
-
regularly
-
and talk about this
-
we all need that
-
so it goes both ways
-
when we do things
-
when we take that step
-
alright
-
let's pray
-
Father
-
we ask
-
that you would help us
-
by the spirit
-
to desire
-
more and more
-
of you
-
that we would want
-
more and more of you
-
in our lives
-
that we would want
-
to be with you
-
Lord
-
so maybe
-
Father
-
that's the prayer
-
we ask tonight
-
that you would help us
-
to want
-
to be with you
-
and therefore
-
to become more
-
like you
-
and then to
-
externalize that
-
to help other people
-
be with you
-
and become more
-
like you
-
and so that's really
-
our request tonight
-
so I pray that you
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would work in our
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hearts with the
-
problem
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of esteem
-
and ego
-
whether it's
-
very high
-
in our lives
-
right now
-
very low
-
bring it
-
to whatever
-
it looks like
-
to be Christ-like
-
we ask
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we pray this
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in Jesus name
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Amen
-
Amen
-
Amen