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1 Peter 3:1-7 "Wives and Husbands" | SERMON ONLY

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  1. Hi, my name is George Sinclair. I'm the lead pastor of Church of the Messiah. It is wonderful

  2. that you would like to check out some of the sermons done by Church of the Messiah,

  3. either by myself or some of the others. Listen, just a couple of things. First of all,

  4. would you pray for us that we will open God's Word well to His glory and for the good of people

  5. like yourself? The second thing is, if you aren't connected to a church and if you are a Christian,

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  9. non-Christian checking us out, we're really, really, really glad you're doing that. Don't hesitate to

  10. send us questions. It helps me actually to know, as I'm preaching, how to deal with the types of

  11. things that you're really struggling with. So God bless.

  12. Let's just bow our heads in prayer as we stand. Father, sometimes Your Word frightens us,

  13. and even maybe Father embarrasses us if our friends who follow other ways were to hear this. We ask,

  14. Father, that Your Holy Spirit would lead us and guide us into all truth,

  15. that You would bring a deep remembrance to us, Father, of who Jesus is and what He's accomplished

  16. for us on the cross, and to understand that the words You speak to us are words of love

  17. and words of wisdom for our good. And we ask this in the name of Jesus, Your Son and our Savior. Amen.

  18. Please be seated. And I set my timer.

  19. So I've had the great privilege over the years to try to help different people learn how to do some,

  20. you know, not just some public speaking in general, but also in particular how to open the Bible,

  21. how to teach the Bible. And one of the things that we always say, it's just a very common thing in

  22. rhetoric, is you want to have an opening that grabs people, that makes either create some tension that

  23. has to be resolved or create some curiosity, which people are curious about what's going to happen next.

  24. And you cannot beat, in terms of creating tension, saying in Canada in 2024,

  25. likewise wives be subject to your own husbands,

  26. which is immediately tension-inducing for many people and curiosity-inducing forever, for others.

  27. The first time I preached on this text was, I don't know, 10 or 12 years ago. At that time,

  28. there was a coffee place down on Rideau Street that I'd go to between the services, and I was

  29. coming back, cutting behind the Ottawa Little Theatre to come into this store, and an older saint from

  30. the congregation looked at me, and I was wearing my Birkenstocks, and he said to me,

  31. no, you don't have your dancing shoes on. And I said, dancing shoes? He said, well, I always look forward to

  32. ministers speaking on texts like this, to see how they dance around the text and never deal with it.

  33. And so, once again, I don't have any dancing shoes on, I have sandals, but I don't want to make light of a text

  34. which is so hard and threatening for many Canadians. So first, what we're going to do is, I'm going to read through the text,

  35. and then I'm going to, well, make a lot of different comments about it, and at the end of the day, I'm going to commend the text to you.

  36. So if you have your Bibles, it's 1 Peter 3, verses 1 to 7. If you don't have your Bibles, those blue books over there are Bibles.

    1 Peter 3:1–7

  37. You can get up of your seat and go and grab your own, or if you have a YouVersion, you can look at it on your phone.

  38. So here's how the text goes. Likewise, so it's, he's earlier given some advice to slaves, and it's connecting

  39. what he's about to say to women who are married, Christian women who are married, and Christian men who are married.

  40. He's connecting it to the whole general moral teaching that he'd given before in the first two chapters.

  41. So likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word,

  42. they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives.

  43. Now just pause here for two short little things.

  44. I spend time in academic commentaries as part of my preparation for a sermon like this,

  45. and one of the things I, in particular, am looking for is to see whether there's some translation issues

  46. from the original language into the modern language.

  47. And sometimes, of course, there's multiple meanings or a range of meaning or something like that,

  48. and I could say a couple of things about the word be in submission or subject to,

  49. but at the end of the day, the word's actually, it's, all of this text is actually quite well translated into English.

  50. It's not, I'm not going to be able, in a sense, to rescue some of the problems that we might have with the text

  51. by saying, well, in the original language, it's, no, that's not an option to us.

  52. There is a language thing which isn't quite caught later on, which I'll mention,

  53. but this is fairly well translated.

  54. Verse 2, oh, sorry, we'll just go back a bit.

  55. So even if some do not, oh, by saying if some do not,

  56. it's implying that not all Christian women are married to Christian men.

  57. So this is a word to Christian wives, regardless as to whether or not your husband is a Christian,

  58. and actually the same idea is there later on with husbands,

  59. but that's where I'm actually going to show the original language brings out a nuance that you can't get in English.

  60. But the husbands, it's, once again, it's recognizing that not all Christian husbands will have Christian wives.

  61. So regardless as to whether your wife is a Christian or outside of the Christian faith,

  62. the command to the husband is still the same.

  63. So verse 2, when they, that's referring to the wife's husband,

  64. when they see your respectful and pure conduct,

  65. do not let your adorning be external,

  66. the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold, jewelry, or the clothing you wear,

  67. but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart

  68. with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit,

  69. which in God's sight is very precious.

  70. And just before we go any farther,

  71. the text isn't saying that a woman shouldn't wear makeup or really beautiful dresses

  72. or anything like that.

  73. It's just really saying put first things first.

  74. And the first thing is, in a sense, you work on you.

  75. And the second thing is you work on your clothing.

  76. I don't know how many of you, if you go into the self-help sections of libraries

  77. and you read books on how to have a good attitude or something like that,

  78. one of the things you'll see in those often is,

  79. they'll use the example of how much time a person might spend in the morning to look good,

  80. and then ask yourself how much time you spend to get yourself with having a good attitude for the day.

  81. And a lot of people spend their time in the bathroom looking at the mirror,

  82. being grumpy about their day,

  83. and all their time to look good.

  84. And they'll say, you know, what attracts you to people is actually working on your inner self.

  85. That's what attracts you.

  86. That's often what gets, you know, the promotions or etc.

  87. is that inner aspect of your life in terms of your attitudes and your thoughts and your habits.

  88. So it's actually, in some ways, this is no different than the self-help literature

  89. is just, in a sense, playing a riff on this old Christian teaching.

  90. So it's not saying to women, don't put on makeup or anything like that.

  91. It's saying, make sure this is the first thing that you're working on.

  92. Verse 5,

  93. Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way or with knowledge.

  94. It could either be translated as understanding or with knowledge.

  95. Showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel.

  96. Yikes.

  97. We're going to talk about that in a bit.

  98. Since they are heirs with you of the grace of life,

  99. so that your prayers may not be hindered.

  100. And in the original language, that word, heirs with you,

  101. there's a bit of a double meaning in the original language.

  102. And it's saying, so that someday they might be heirs or that they already are heirs with you.

  103. So it's once again acknowledging that the Christian husband might not have a Christian wife.

  104. And as you'll notice, there's six verses spoken to the wife

  105. and only one verse that's spoken to the husband.

  106. And so some of you might say, whoa, that's way worse than I remembered

  107. when Emma read the text just a few minutes ago.

  108. And it just seems very, very sort of wrong to us.

  109. Referring to a woman, the wife, as a weaker vessel.

  110. Every single one of us, like I could get up here and I could effortlessly go on a rant about this text.

  111. And I could well imagine that if I was to read something like this at the University of Ottawa,

  112. if I was to, not only to, if I read this at the,

  113. if I read this amongst the conservative MPs or the liberal MPs or the NDP MPs,

  114. there'd probably be no difference in their reaction to it.

  115. And people would tell me that I have blood on my hands if I don't repent of this text

  116. and tell people to disregard it.

  117. That telling wives to be submitting to their husbands will lead to the violence against women

  118. and literally death of women, that I actually literally would have blood on my hands.

  119. But I'm not going to go, we all know, we all can easily fill in the blanks

  120. about how people would talk about this text.

  121. And I'm going to walk towards that.

  122. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to give two points.

  123. I'm going to give a big picture explanation of the seven verses.

  124. And then I'm going to talk about some of the objections to it.

  125. And then I'll come back and help us to understand these particular big lessons.

  126. And so if you could put up the first one, that would be very helpful.

  127. And the first one is from Jesus to the wife.

  128. Remember, if those of you heard my sermon last week on slavery,

  129. one of the things which is unique about this biblical text,

  130. which isn't obvious in the English, is that Peter talks directly to slaves.

  131. He talks to them as if they have integrity, autonomy.

  132. I mean, they don't have full autonomy because they're slaves, obviously.

  133. In a very fundamental way, they don't.

  134. But internally, they have integrity.

  135. They have dignity.

  136. They can do something even in their context.

  137. So he's talking directly to them.

  138. And in the same way here, we have a similar type of thing.

  139. For those of us who are husbands, we listen in while the text speaks directly to wives.

  140. And then for those who are wives, we listen in directly as God speaks directly to the husbands.

  141. And for those who are not married, we all get to listen in to what the word of God says directly to each group.

  142. So from Jesus to the wife, you have a quest.

  143. And I'm using the word quest because one of the standard ways of understanding a quest is it's a long endeavor that changes you.

  144. It's a long endeavor towards a goal, towards an end that changes you in the process.

  145. Classic example would be in The Lord of the Rings and Frodo's quest to destroy the ring.

  146. And it takes a lot of pages.

  147. It goes through lots of hardship.

  148. And it changes him in the whole process as he's on this long quest.

  149. And so how we should hear these texts is that in both cases, it's going to be a quest.

  150. So from Jesus to the wife, you have a quest with three strands woven together to learn to submit to and respect your husband,

  151. to grow a deeply quiet and gentle spirit, to learn to live without fear.

  152. And three strands that are complementary, three strands woven together will make it far stronger.

  153. And of course, if it's mixed with different colors, it will also be more beautiful.

  154. And so I've used that analogy on purpose, that there are these three complementary strands, but they're different.

  155. And they're to be woven together, to learn to submit to and respect your husband,

  156. and to grow a deeply quiet and gentle spirit, and to learn to live without fear.

  157. And now there's a direct word to the husbands.

  158. From Jesus to the husband, you have a quest.

  159. If you could put up the second point, that would be great.

  160. You have a quest with three strands and a solemn warning woven together.

  161. The wife doesn't have a solemn warning.

  162. The husband has a solemn warning.

  163. What are the three strands?

  164. To lovingly know or understand your wife, to honour her as precious or worthy,

  165. to remember that she's your co-heir in glory,

  166. and to refuse this quest will mean that your prayers are hindered.

  167. So once again, there's three strands.

  168. Complimentary, that have to be woven together.

  169. And it's still a quest.

  170. The quest is, for me as a husband, is to lovingly know and understand my wife,

  171. to honour her as precious or worthy,

  172. to remember at all times, or in a deep way, that she's my co-heir in glory,

  173. and for me to refuse to do these things,

  174. means that my prayers will be hindered.

  175. Now, some of you might say,

  176. okay, George, that's a little bit different than what I thought you were going to say and summarize,

  177. but, you know, frankly, it still sucks.

  178. Like, it's terrible advice, George.

  179. Like, how, this is 2024.

  180. Like, you're in downtown Ottawa.

  181. You're minutes from the Parliament building.

  182. You're minutes from CBC.

  183. Your embassies all surround you.

  184. There's University of Ottawa's right there.

  185. How on earth can you still stand up here and say that's the summary of the text?

  186. Like, first of all, why is it so terrible to women,

  187. and why are they having something which is so completely and utterly different?

  188. Like, why aren't they, like, maybe, you know, maybe I could accept it if it said,

  189. okay, husband, submit to your wife, wife, submit to your husband.

  190. Like, I still think that's terrible, George,

  191. because, you know, surely you'd think that it's not a matter of submission.

  192. It's a matter of finding your power, learning how to roar,

  193. grabbing a hold of your own destiny,

  194. and expecting, honoring each other's quest to be more powerful,

  195. to be stronger, to roar, to be themselves.

  196. Like, there's all sorts of, but, you know, it's terrible advice,

  197. and it's different advice, and George, like,

  198. frankly, George, I don't even know what to say to you.

  199. Well, there's a little bit of a pushback

  200. before we lose too much sleep over this.

  201. And, by the way, if you're here outside the Christian faith,

  202. and you don't know much about Christians,

  203. texts like this terrify Christians.

  204. Like, if you watch this thinking that this is something

  205. that we beat our chest on all the time,

  206. and talk about all the time,

  207. I can guarantee you that if you go to most conservative churches in the city,

  208. they're terrified of texts like this,

  209. and they rarely talk about it.

  210. I can guarantee you that that's the case.

  211. And if they do talk about it,

  212. they undermine the text.

  213. They say, well, well, well, you know,

  214. there's other places in the Bible

  215. that says that we should all be quiet, have quiet minds.

  216. And there's other places in the Bible

  217. where it says we should all submit.

  218. And they all give you all these different Bible verses,

  219. and the end of the way is that they've erased the text.

  220. So if you're outside the Christian faith,

  221. you should understand that's a problem.

  222. I would say it's a problem for Canadian Christians right now.

  223. But how do we respond to this

  224. and to the voices we hear in our head from our culture?

  225. Here's the first thing.

  226. For 55 years,

  227. there has been a consistent message in Canada,

  228. fairly consistent types of messaging in Canada

  229. about how to have successful marriages for 55 years.

  230. And the marriage has all been not about submission,

  231. about autonomy,

  232. about a whole range of things like that.

  233. We could all effortlessly list,

  234. probably if we just sat down,

  235. what's the five pieces of marriage advice

  236. or seven pieces of marriage advice that our culture gives us?

  237. And we'd probably put it all down.

  238. And at the end of the day,

  239. we'd probably come up with a list of 10 or 11 things

  240. that say we'd all agree that this is what Canadians would say.

  241. And here's the question we have to ask Canadians.

  242. How is it working?

  243. After 55 years of advice,

  244. are marriages way up?

  245. Are there no divorces?

  246. Is there no abuse in marriage?

  247. Are all children wanted?

  248. Are people open to even having children?

  249. Are people marrying early

  250. because it's such a good thing they want to get in on it?

  251. No.

  252. Marriages are down.

  253. Abortions are up.

  254. Unhappiness is way up.

  255. Insecurities are way up.

  256. We've had 55 years of consistent advice,

  257. and it is not making men and women in Canada happier.

  258. And it is not making us have better marriages.

  259. Einstein famously said that one definition of insanity

  260. is to do the same thing over and over,

  261. hoping for different results.

  262. And that's our Canadian culture.

  263. So, you know, if in fact they could say,

  264. listen, you know,

  265. there used to be this old way of talking about things,

  266. and for the last 55 years,

  267. you know, we've taught a new and better way

  268. to talk about marriage.

  269. And just look at how spectacular everything in Canada is.

  270. And then we might have to say,

  271. well, I don't know,

  272. maybe this text doesn't have anything to teach us.

  273. But that's not the case.

  274. In fact, I can tell you absolutely right now,

  275. if your marriage advice is to learn how to roar

  276. and be your authentic self,

  277. that is a recipe to ruin a marriage.

  278. It's a recipe to make it hard for you to marry.

  279. And here's another thing about this.

  280. Okay, well,

  281. okay, well,

  282. maybe you have something there.

  283. Maybe we should listen.

  284. And now that I look at your points,

  285. there's a couple of good things in there.

  286. Like you said to the women,

  287. the wives,

  288. that they're to learn to live without fear.

  289. Okay, that's actually a really good point.

  290. I'm a little bit surprised

  291. that I actually have to say

  292. that that's actually pretty smart advice.

  293. I'm a bit surprised it's in the Bible.

  294. I don't know,

  295. it's still making women a bit passive.

  296. I still understand why the men and women are different,

  297. and I think that's just completely wrong.

  298. And then to that,

  299. we have another time out.

  300. You see,

  301. our culture is incoherent about women.

  302. Why are we incoherent about women?

  303. Well,

  304. here's four different messages

  305. we hear about women in our culture.

  306. Message number one,

  307. women are very,

  308. very specific and unique

  309. and different types of people.

  310. And their voice absolutely has to be heard.

  311. And that's why

  312. whenever Pierre Polyev,

  313. if he wins the next election

  314. or if Trudeau wins a re-election,

  315. he should really make sure

  316. that there's at least 50% men

  317. and 50% women

  318. because you need to hear

  319. the very distinct and unique voice of women

  320. in cabinet.

  321. And you need the same thing

  322. in university faculties,

  323. you need the same thing

  324. in boardrooms.

  325. Women have this very unique voice

  326. which needs to be heard.

  327. Our culture also says,

  328. might even be by the same blogger,

  329. a week later,

  330. a week later,

  331. men and women are basically the same.

  332. The only thing that's different about them

  333. is their plumbing

  334. and they should be treated completely

  335. and utterly equally in all things.

  336. And then a week later,

  337. there'll be another blog.

  338. We all know that gender differences

  339. are a social construct.

  340. They're just invented by our culture

  341. and generally they're oppressive.

  342. Okay,

  343. well,

  344. one moment,

  345. if that's the case,

  346. then why is it

  347. that you need the same 50%

  348. on the boardrooms?

  349. And our culture never asks that question.

  350. And really,

  351. you think men and women

  352. are so clear and distinct

  353. that you can be very clear

  354. and that's why you need 50% men

  355. and 50% women.

  356. If men and women

  357. are so completely distinct,

  358. then why is it

  359. that I could declare

  360. that I'm a woman

  361. and you need to accept it?

  362. How on earth

  363. is that showing

  364. that there's actually

  365. something powerful

  366. and unique about a woman?

  367. And once again,

  368. in our culture,

  369. you could have the same blogger

  370. writing each one of those points

  371. four consecutive weeks

  372. and never thinking

  373. that they've said anything

  374. inconsistent or incoherent.

  375. In some ways,

  376. our culture has to

  377. pick a lane

  378. before you criticize this text.

  379. Pick a lane.

  380. But George,

  381. what about women being weaker?

  382. Didn't it say that in the text?

  383. Like, George,

  384. George,

  385. that's just

  386. so wrong

  387. to say,

  388. well, actually,

  389. I think the Bible's

  390. actually pretty wise on this.

  391. And in fact,

  392. actually,

  393. I think the Bible here

  394. is giving

  395. what we deeply want

  396. in our culture.

  397. It's subverting

  398. our culture,

  399. but at the same time,

  400. if you listen to the Bible,

  401. it's giving us

  402. what we actually really want

  403. and long for

  404. beneath our incoherence.

  405. Why do I say that?

  406. Okay,

  407. women aren't the weaker vessel.

  408. I think

  409. Mike Tyson

  410. should be able

  411. to fight

  412. mixed martial arts

  413. with women.

  414. I think whoever

  415. is the heavyweight champion

  416. of mixed martial arts

  417. man should be able

  418. to fight women equally.

  419. If you believe that,

  420. you will literally

  421. have blood on your hands.

  422. Literally,

  423. you will have blood

  424. on your hands.

  425. The man would kill

  426. the woman,

  427. not on purpose,

  428. but he would.

  429. What about Leah Thomas?

  430. What's the 146th

  431. ranked college swimmer?

  432. And he declares

  433. that he's a woman

  434. and he wins

  435. the woman's races?

  436. But here's the thing

  437. about this text.

  438. On one hand,

  439. this is just saying

  440. anything,

  441. I mean,

  442. who knows,

  443. maybe we'll get cancelled

  444. because I just said this

  445. and it's on YouTube

  446. and somebody will find out.

  447. But we all know

  448. that's true

  449. and people just don't

  450. want to say it out loud.

  451. Very few people

  452. want to say it out loud.

  453. But at the same time,

  454. this is not saying

  455. anything derogatory

  456. about women

  457. because of that text

  458. about developing

  459. a quiet spirit.

  460. Who's stronger?

  461. A person with a chaotic spirit

  462. or a quiet spirit?

  463. Who's stronger?

  464. The person who cannot

  465. control their impulses,

  466. cannot control their greed,

  467. cannot control their lust,

  468. cannot control their anger,

  469. cannot control

  470. their power hungriness,

  471. cannot just,

  472. whatever whim strikes them,

  473. they want to get

  474. what they want

  475. and they have,

  476. in fact,

  477. a chaotic spirit.

  478. Who is stronger?

  479. A person like that

  480. or a person

  481. who's quiet and calm?

  482. We all know

  483. that the person

  484. who's quiet and calm

  485. is the stronger person.

  486. Constant movies,

  487. constant novels,

  488. the person always flying,

  489. the boss,

  490. the husband,

  491. the wife,

  492. always flying off

  493. in rages

  494. and often the underlings

  495. are the ones

  496. that actually have

  497. the quiet spirit,

  498. can put up with the things

  499. and just quietly

  500. get things done.

  501. We all know

  502. that in the event

  503. of some terrible tragedy

  504. happening

  505. and some of us

  506. completely and utterly

  507. come unglued

  508. and can't think straight

  509. and maybe we're crying

  510. and we're raging

  511. and we're worrying

  512. and then we're completely frozen

  513. and we feel afterwards

  514. that it's such a blessing

  515. that somebody who loves us

  516. and cares for us

  517. comes alongside

  518. and they're calm

  519. and they can make the decisions.

  520. The calm person

  521. is the strong person

  522. and it even goes further

  523. because when it talks

  524. about a quiet

  525. and gentle spirit,

  526. the quiet spirit

  527. is not a passive spirit.

  528. The quiet spirit

  529. is the strong spirit.

  530. Simple example.

  531. Daniel Avitan,

  532. there's me,

  533. Daniel Avitan.

  534. There's me,

  535. there's Daniel Avitan.

  536. Okay?

  537. Look at our arms,

  538. there's me,

  539. there's Daniel Avitan,

  540. right?

  541. How easy would it be

  542. for me to push

  543. Daniel Avitan over?

  544. Well,

  545. I mean,

  546. maybe,

  547. you know,

  548. just because I'm his boss,

  549. he'd let me push him

  550. a little bit,

  551. but the fact is

  552. if he just wanted

  553. to stand his ground,

  554. you know,

  555. or me and Andrew,

  556. or me and Patrick,

  557. how easy do you think

  558. it's going to be

  559. to push Andrew over?

  560. He's going to just be

  561. quiet and calm.

  562. Same with Patrick.

  563. Wouldn't even be

  564. working up a sweat

  565. as I try to push them over.

  566. This is passive.

  567. Throw it away.

  568. The chaotic spirit

  569. is the passive spirit,

  570. overwhelmed by passions,

  571. idols, fears, whims,

  572. insecurities,

  573. insanities.

  574. The quiet spirit

  575. is the strong spirit,

  576. able to maintain a course,

  577. able to see clearly,

  578. able to choose,

  579. able to love,

  580. able to serve.

  581. This Bible text

  582. is actually warning

  583. is actually calling

  584. the woman

  585. to develop

  586. the strongest

  587. possible strength.

  588. And even the language

  589. of co-heirs,

  590. if you look at verse 7

  591. where it says,

  592. you know,

  593. one of the things

  594. for a husband

  595. is to remember

  596. that his wife

  597. is an heir with him.

  598. Ours just says,

  599. are heirs with you

  600. or it could be co-heirs.

  601. should I add a couple

  602. of other politically

  603. incorrect things

  604. to say in my particular

  605. sermon this morning?

  606. But here's the thing.

  607. Increasingly in Canada,

  608. rights and the protection

  609. that come along with them

  610. are merely that

  611. which the courts

  612. and the parliament

  613. or the house of,

  614. the parliament decides.

  615. But when the Bible here

  616. says that I'm to remember

  617. that Louise is a co-heir

  618. with me,

  619. this is saying

  620. something very profound.

  621. You see,

  622. because it's picking up

  623. on an idea

  624. that when Adam and Eve,

  625. you know,

  626. whether or not you believe

  627. in them literally,

  628. that's a whole other talk.

  629. You can ask me about that

  630. at coffee.

  631. But that Adam and Eve,

  632. in a sense,

  633. they're created

  634. so that human beings

  635. would be the heir

  636. of all things.

  637. And that's squandered

  638. when human beings fall

  639. and they become proud

  640. and they try to become

  641. their own gods.

  642. And so the whole message

  643. of the gospel

  644. is that God sees

  645. our profound and deep need

  646. and out of love for us

  647. and knowing that we cannot

  648. leave ourselves

  649. to fix ourselves,

  650. that he sends his son

  651. to come and be amongst us

  652. and to live the life

  653. that we can live,

  654. to die the death

  655. that we deserve,

  656. but that would unmake us,

  657. to face the judgment

  658. that we deserve,

  659. to bear the shame

  660. that we deserve,

  661. all which would

  662. completely and utterly

  663. unmake us.

  664. And he does all of that

  665. for us completely

  666. and utterly out of love.

  667. And the purpose is

  668. to restore us

  669. to a relationship with him.

  670. And so when the Bible text

  671. is saying that

  672. Louise and I are co-heirs,

  673. it's saying that

  674. there's something

  675. about Louise and me

  676. and our dignity

  677. and our integrity

  678. and what it means

  679. to be human

  680. that is something

  681. that God created

  682. the entire universe

  683. with having human beings

  684. with this type

  685. of proper dignity

  686. and proper worth

  687. and proper integrity.

  688. And so it's saying

  689. that there's something

  690. about human beings

  691. and their integrity

  692. that goes all the way

  693. into the very,

  694. very depths of time

  695. and ancient time

  696. and it's woven

  697. into our very,

  698. very nature.

  699. And by the time

  700. the same language

  701. errs,

  702. it's saying that

  703. no matter how high

  704. a mystic goes,

  705. it goes right

  706. into the future,

  707. it goes into the new heaven

  708. and the new earth,

  709. that there's something

  710. equal that has integrity

  711. and dignity

  712. and a proper place

  713. that's given by God,

  714. not by the state.

  715. The state will be judged

  716. by God

  717. in whether or not

  718. it recognizes

  719. the integrity

  720. and dignity

  721. of human beings

  722. because the state

  723. does not get

  724. to decide that

  725. and there's something

  726. that is of dignity

  727. and worth

  728. that goes right back

  729. to creation

  730. and goes into

  731. the new creation

  732. and that's what

  733. the Bible is telling us,

  734. that there is such

  735. a profound equality

  736. between men and women

  737. that goes right back

  738. to creation

  739. and into the new creation

  740. and at the same time

  741. the difference

  742. between a man and woman

  743. is mysterious

  744. and obviously

  745. it's going to work

  746. itself out in a different case

  747. in every particular person

  748. it's going to be

  749. culturally different

  750. but there's something

  751. there which is different.

  752. There's something there

  753. which is different.

  754. Let's look at our two points

  755. and just try to listen to them.

  756. If you could put them up again

  757. that would be very helpful.

  758. So the first one

  759. is from Jesus to the wife.

  760. You have a quest

  761. with three strands

  762. woven together.

  763. Woven together for strength

  764. woven together for beauty.

  765. Now as I talked about before

  766. submit and respect

  767. is it to be a type of posture.

  768. It ultimately has to also

  769. lead into behavior

  770. but it's a type of posture.

  771. I don't know why it is

  772. that he says

  773. respect for the husband

  774. rather than some other word

  775. but that's the word

  776. that's given to us.

  777. Submit and respect

  778. are like dimmer switches

  779. as I talked about last week

  780. not on and off switches

  781. and it's a relative word.

  782. How a woman

  783. is going to play that out

  784. in the case of a husband

  785. which is very boorish

  786. very absent

  787. very autocratic

  788. uncaring and demanding

  789. is going to look

  790. very different

  791. than a husband

  792. who takes verse 7

  793. very very seriously

  794. or at least it should.

  795. And as I talked about

  796. last week with slaves

  797. the Bible is designed

  798. in such a way

  799. that it assumes

  800. that there's going to have

  801. to be communal discernment

  802. and prayer

  803. in the reading of the Bible

  804. as maybe all the moms

  805. in a church

  806. where they have groups

  807. together of moms

  808. or women

  809. and they talk about

  810. these things

  811. and they struggle with them

  812. and they pray with each other

  813. and they weep with each other

  814. at the hard things

  815. that some wives

  816. have to go through

  817. or they rejoice

  818. with other wives

  819. with the wonderful things

  820. that they're going through

  821. and there's a rejoicing

  822. and there's a commiserating

  823. and there's a deep prayer

  824. and there's a studying

  825. of God's word

  826. as these things

  827. are figured out

  828. in terms of what it means

  829. but that's a fundamental

  830. type of posture.

  831. And then the second thing

  832. that is to be in a sense

  833. part of their quest

  834. is to grow a deeply quiet

  835. and gentle spirit.

  836. Well that's a wonderful thing

  837. to grow.

  838. Why is it not the same

  839. for the husband and the wife?

  840. I don't know why

  841. it's not the same.

  842. You can't go behind the text

  843. to figure that out

  844. but that's the quest

  845. which is given.

  846. And then finally

  847. to learn to live without fear.

  848. Like why is that bad advice

  849. those last two?

  850. And if those last two

  851. are part of the advice

  852. then maybe that first piece

  853. of advice is also something

  854. which is needed.

  855. And then look at the second one

  856. from the Jesus to the husband.

  857. Now here is where

  858. Bible Christians nowadays

  859. quickly lose their mind

  860. because they try to jump in

  861. and fill this text

  862. with all sorts of things

  863. that aren't there in the text.

  864. So here's the thing

  865. that you would expect.

  866. Our culture would expect.

  867. And here's the things

  868. that we worry about

  869. with this text

  870. when it comes to

  871. what the Bible is saying

  872. to me, a husband.

  873. At the earlier service

  874. there's a fellow

  875. who comes regularly.

  876. He used to be a speechwriter.

  877. He would write speeches

  878. for the prime minister

  879. and for cabinet ministers regularly.

  880. He made his living

  881. writing speeches.

  882. So I said to him,

  883. I said you must have had

  884. lots of times.

  885. He's just at 8 o'clock service

  886. there's like there's

  887. seven people and me.

  888. So we have a bit of a conversation.

  889. I said there must have been

  890. lots of times

  891. when you were writing speeches

  892. where you'd sit down

  893. with the cabinet minister

  894. or the prime minister

  895. as advisors

  896. and they'd say

  897. we'd like a speech on this.

  898. And then you'd go back

  899. and you'd say to your wife

  900. at the end

  901. I don't really know

  902. if they know

  903. what they want me to write.

  904. I have no idea

  905. what they just really

  906. told me to do.

  907. Like it wasn't very coherent

  908. or straight.

  909. And I said that to him.

  910. He said that happened

  911. about like almost

  912. 100% of the time.

  913. They actually didn't really know

  914. what they wanted me to say.

  915. But they wanted me

  916. to write something to say.

  917. Anyway, so I said you know

  918. so normally

  919. if you hear this first bit

  920. what you're going to expect

  921. with the second bit

  922. is the lesson to the husbands

  923. is this.

  924. George, you need to learn

  925. how to speak clearly.

  926. You need to learn

  927. how to speak strategically.

  928. You need to be clear

  929. and give very, very clear

  930. easy to follow commands

  931. to your wife.

  932. And that's what the Bible says, right?

  933. No.

  934. It's not there.

  935. In fact, the husband

  936. is given a completely

  937. different quest.

  938. You see, all of the advice

  939. to leaders,

  940. obviously if you read

  941. Stephen Covey's

  942. Seven Habits of Highly Effective Leaders

  943. because ultimately

  944. there's a lot of

  945. just common wisdom,

  946. one of the pieces of advice

  947. for highly effective leaders

  948. is seek first to understand.

  949. But generally speaking

  950. we don't like that bit very much

  951. and what we work on

  952. is how to explain ourselves

  953. more clearly.

  954. And often in marital conflict

  955. what we think is

  956. what we need

  957. is for me to explain

  958. more clearly.

  959. And if I finally just

  960. nail the right words

  961. the problem is gone.

  962. But the Bible here says,

  963. George,

  964. don't think of all the things

  965. you should have said

  966. or could have said better.

  967. Work on understanding

  968. your wife

  969. with clear-eyed knowledge.

  970. Clear-eyed,

  971. lovingly understanding

  972. your wife.

  973. Work on that.

  974. Clear-eyed means

  975. she married a sinner,

  976. I married a sinner.

  977. It means there's strengths

  978. and weaknesses,

  979. there's glories,

  980. there's wounds from the past,

  981. you know, whatever.

  982. There's dreams and desires

  983. and try to understand

  984. your wife.

  985. And try to understand

  986. your wife with love.

  987. And the second thing is,

  988. and this is similar

  989. to the first one,

  990. is George,

  991. you need to figure out

  992. ways to honor your wife.

  993. That she's worthy

  994. or she's precious.

  995. You need to figure that out,

  996. George.

  997. That's your task.

  998. That's your quest

  999. in your marriage

  1000. to figure that out.

  1001. Now once again,

  1002. in this text

  1003. it's very, very interesting.

  1004. The Bible doesn't say,

  1005. wives,

  1006. you get to determine

  1007. when your husband

  1008. is honoring the way

  1009. he should.

  1010. And husbands,

  1011. the Bible text

  1012. doesn't say

  1013. that you get to control

  1014. when the wife

  1015. is submitting

  1016. as she should.

  1017. No power is given

  1018. to either of us.

  1019. If you say,

  1020. well that makes

  1021. absolutely no human sense,

  1022. then the Bible

  1023. would say,

  1024. right.

  1025. Yes,

  1026. we agree.

  1027. and then finally,

  1028. the third one is

  1029. that I'm to work on

  1030. remembering at all times

  1031. that she's my co-heir.

  1032. She will be in heaven

  1033. with me

  1034. and she has this dignity

  1035. and worth.

  1036. And then finally,

  1037. there's a warning to me

  1038. that if I refuse this quest,

  1039. my prayers will be hindered.

  1040. This works itself out.

  1041. I'm almost done.

  1042. Just two very brief things

  1043. in closing.

  1044. Another way to look

  1045. at these two quests

  1046. is in terms of

  1047. what a husband and wife

  1048. should do

  1049. when there is conflict

  1050. or unhappiness.

  1051. So let's say

  1052. there's conflict

  1053. and unhappiness

  1054. and maybe we decide

  1055. let's just give this 48 hours

  1056. because I don't know,

  1057. we're just not getting

  1058. anywhere with it.

  1059. And in general,

  1060. in our culture,

  1061. it would say,

  1062. okay, go work

  1063. on how you love each other more

  1064. or how to communicate better

  1065. or all that.

  1066. And you know,

  1067. I'm not saying

  1068. those are bad pieces of advice,

  1069. but the Bible

  1070. would actually give us

  1071. different advice.

  1072. It'd say,

  1073. you know,