Sermon
The One with All the Kissing | February 23, 2025
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Kind of getting
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that, uh, warm
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churchy feeling.
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Alright.
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Hey, we had an amazing
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time last week on
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Marriage Retreat.
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Big thank you
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to everybody who
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helped hold down
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the fort and do some
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awesome things here.
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Uh, but I missed
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the opportunity to
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talk to all you guys
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about Valentine's
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Day, right?
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Some of you're just
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now remembering it
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was Valentine's Day
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and the big oops
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on your face, Kyle.
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I can see that.
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No big deal, man.
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You got next year.
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Don't stress it.
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Just kidding.
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I think.
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Just kidding.
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Maybe, maybe
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not, not just.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Counseling session
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this afternoon.
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That'll be fun,
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Tory, Kyle.
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I'll make that happen.
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So Valentine's Day
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is still in the month
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of February, even
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though technically
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it was last week.
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So I was really on
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the fence about this.
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I was like, you know,
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I have some stuff I
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want to talk about.
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I'm kind of excited
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to talk about, but
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maybe, Lord, you got
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something different.
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It's cool.
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So I had this stuff
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all kind of in my head
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I wanted to share.
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And then I walked into
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my office yesterday
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and it was confirmed
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because after the
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Gallant Times's Day
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party, a bunch of
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ladies threw some
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balloons in my office.
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And the good news is
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a Renee signed her
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name on the board,
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which is just not
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how you roll, right?
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But she must have
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known we had cameras
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and all that stuff.
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So the truth is,
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uh, it was the
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confirmation I needed.
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And anybody who
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wants to come help
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me clean up my
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office after church,
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that'd be great.
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Uh, super fun.
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Spend a little gallant
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times's day weekend
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for the ladies.
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Three events
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yesterday and.
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All that good stuff.
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We had a great retreat
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time with couples
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and just some really
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good stuff that
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God's at work doing.
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So Valentine's
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Day is something I
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don't wanna miss the
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moment to talk about.
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Well, a topic that I
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was kind of looking
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back and, uh, I'm
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gonna do a sermon
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that I have never
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done on a topic I've
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really never talked
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about, like ever.
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Um, which is
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crazy to me.
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I mean, maybe, you
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know, kind of like
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from the edges
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I've touched on it.
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But like today, guys,
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you are in for the
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first ever White
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Rock kissing sermon.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna talk
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about kissing today.
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Right?
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Right.
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Some of you super
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excited, some of you
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super disappointed.
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Some of you like, I
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don't even remember
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how to do that.
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That's okay.
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Hang in there.
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It starts like
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riding a bike.
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No big deal.
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So let me clarify
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a couple things as
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we get into this
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kissing sermon.
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I just want to say
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this is not one of
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those sneaky tricks
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that I'm pulling
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where it's like, keep
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it simple, stupid.
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That's a great way
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to live, right?
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Just follow Jesus
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and do what he said.
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Keep it
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simple, stupid.
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Great principle.
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This is not a
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KISS principle.
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Nope.
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We're talking kissing.
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And for those of you
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who are thinking, ah,
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I think I know the
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angle, this is not a
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result of a recent,
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um, unpublished
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survey I did amongst
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White Rock guys
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in high school.
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97.6% of high school
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guys wanna hear more
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sermons about kissing.
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I did not reference
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this as my motivation
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to share this
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message this morning.
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But high school
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guys don't feel
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awkward because on
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an unofficial poll
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on marriage retreat,
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99.7% of men would
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like to do more
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workshops on kissing.
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So just so you know,
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it's a thing, right?
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That we're all kind
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of, uh, kind of
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into a little bit.
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So I plan on going
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home and lemme
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just say, guys, if
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you've not taken
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notes before in a
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message, this might
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be the one, right?
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This just might, this
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might be the one.
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So lemme clarify too.
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I don't wanna get
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this in way any
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weird, we're not gonna
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talk technique, uh,
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we're not gonna talk
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about like French
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kissing per se.
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Um, I may do one
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little touch on
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a Spanish kissing
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situation, but you'll
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understand and it'll
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make some sense.
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So, you guys ready?
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You buckled up.
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Can I just say, I've
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never had as many
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young people focused,
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locked in laser beam,
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ready to roll, right?
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And I finally
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have some husbands
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off their phones
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during church.
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This is great guys.
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This is great.
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I'm gonna make this
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a regular routine.
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Well, as we think
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about kissing,
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let's, uh.
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Let's get to the
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scripture, right?
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'cause you don't
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need my opinion.
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Uh, if you're Jamie,
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you don't want my
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opinion, right?
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It's not a big deal.
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But let's see what
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the scriptures say
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about this kissing
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thing so we can
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learn a little bit.
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Here we go.
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One Corinthians
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chapter 16 verses
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19 through 20.
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Paul is signing off to
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the church in Corinth.
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He's talked about
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some pretty heavy
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stuff, right?
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And engaged in some
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pretty serious,
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I mean, just read
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first Corinthians.
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You'll get a, a pretty
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good sense of the
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magnitude of stuff.
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And as he's signing
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off, he says, the
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church in the province
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of Asia sends you
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greetings, Aquila
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and Priscilla greet
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you warmly in the
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Lord, and so does
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the church that
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meets at their house.
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And if you pay
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attention to what
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this looks like.
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The early church was a
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relational experience.
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I tell people all the
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time that you couldn't
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be a disciple of Jesus
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Christ and not live in
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Christian community.
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It was so intertwined.
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That's part of
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the deal, right?
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Family and church
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ought to be synonyms,
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not something kind
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of funky and kind of
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out in left field.
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I had some fun talks
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this week with some
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different people.
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It happens like
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every week.
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People who come
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to White Rock are
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like, uh, what's
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wrong with you guys?
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And then we have
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really good talks
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about what's wrong
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with us, right?
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Like that.
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We have a value for
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being authentic, au
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authentic and genuine.
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. This fits so well.
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Uh, I have this
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conversation all
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the time about
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presentation
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and polish and
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choreography.
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Which do you remember?
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Bob Lane from
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Inquest Ministries?
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He came to a White
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Rock service years
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ago, and he watched
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as we broke guitar
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strings and told
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stories about the
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beach and wandered
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around, and he
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was marveling
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at it because.
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He coaches churches
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to bring a little
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more authenticity
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into their service.
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And it wasn't until
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the end of the service
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that he realized, oh,
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you guys literally
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just screwed stuff
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up and ad-libbed you
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were just being you.
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Okay, that wasn't
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choreographed, right?
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So I just wanna put
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to rest, those of
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you who thought I
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dumped a communion
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cup to try to set
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a mood, Nope, nope.
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That was legit
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dropage of communion.
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Go.
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And it's not the only
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thing you'll see that
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goes wrong at a church
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service, because
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for me, I wanna be
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the real church of
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Jesus Christ, really
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doing life together.
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Give you guys a
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microphone and let
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you share some truth,
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share some hurt,
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some pain, some joys
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without polishing
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rehearsal, because
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the church, the, the
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world doesn't need
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to see fancy looking
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Christians who look
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the part, they need
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to see real people
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trying to follow
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Jesus and walk it
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out in relationship
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that matters so much.
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And I love that
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about you guys.
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In fact, when I walked
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into my church, my
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church, in my office
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at the church, my
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first words, when I
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saw all those balloons
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in a mess, I actually
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said out loud.
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I love White Rock.
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It is so great, man.
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So great.
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And I knew it
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was Renee right
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off the bat.
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Like it wasn't even
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a question, right?
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Because people do
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stuff around here
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and get noticed.
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So Paul is helping
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us get a little
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snapshot here into
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the relational
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element of the church
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of Jesus Christ.
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These people are
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friends, they
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family, their
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connected, they're
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meeting at their
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houses, they're in
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relationship together.
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And then he says
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in verse 20, all
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the brothers and
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sisters here send
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you greetings.
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And then he drops this
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haymaker and he says,
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greet one another
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with a holy kiss.
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Now, I want you to
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know, as a pastor's
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kid, I knew my Bible
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and I don't know how
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many times I tried
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to get girls to do
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Bible studies with
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me on one Corinthians
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chapter 16, verse
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20, you know, like
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we really need to
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dive into this and
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explore what is God
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saying to us in this?
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You know, not a lot
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of bites not gonna
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lie, but I promised
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you a Spanish story.
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Um, in 1992, I think
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it was, they had
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the dream team going
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to the Olympics
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in Barcelona.
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Is that what you
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were watching
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the other day?
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Yeah.
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So.
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I got to be at that,
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uh, in Barcelona at
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the Olympics and in
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the area there in
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the city doing some
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ministry when I was,
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just before my junior
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year in high school.
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And I got to go with
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World Gospel Mission
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and we got, you know,
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to go to all these
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little venues all
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around the city and
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put on basketball
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clinics, right?
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Like sophomore
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in high school,
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basketball guy.
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Uh, I was pretty
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impressive, but
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not enough that
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anybody should have
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come and watched.
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But at any rate,
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we did all these
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things for families
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and children and
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passed out gospel
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tracks and talked to
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'em about the Lord.
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And it was a really
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neat experience.
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And in fact, one of
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our group watched
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Larry Bird's kids
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during the Dream
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team matchup.
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It was kind of
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crazy small world
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in Barcelona, but I
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really connected well
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with this missionary
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young lady, not over
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this verse, but who
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was there on site.
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And one evening,
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uh, she and I went
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to this kind of
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courtyard festival
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that was going on.
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She wanted to me
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to meet some of her
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friends and we went
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on this walk and, uh.
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We're, we're kind of
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walking around the
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edge of this crowd
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and different people
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are kind of, you know,
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bumping into each
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other and whatnot.
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And she brings me
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around this corner and
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right before my eyes
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is the prototypical
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high school European
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girl who needs to
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know about Jesus
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and we need to
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have a talk right
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about this verse.
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She walks up to
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her friend and she
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gives her a big hug.
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And I'm standing right
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there as a sophomore
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in high school.
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Like, I would really
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like to meet this
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girl and maybe be
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her friend for the
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rest of my life.
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I don't know, right?
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Like this is a
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big moment in
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this high school
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vibe in my world.
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And so I kind of
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like do the thing
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that awkwardly I
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do and just sort of
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like kind of lean
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down a little bit.
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'cause she was kinda
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shorter and I was
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getting ready to
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stick out my hand.
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And as I did that,
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this little European
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gal starts to stand
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up on her tippy
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toes and leans
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right into my space.
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Right?
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And lemme just
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tell you guys.
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As a sophomore in
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high school, I had
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been afraid this
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was gonna happen.
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My charm would be too
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much for the European
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ladies and they were
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gonna come in and
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I'd be like pushing
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'em away and like,
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how do I maintain
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purity over here in
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this foreign country?
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I mean, it was a, it
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was a moment, right?
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And it was a moment
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that probably lasted
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like half a second,
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but I think it was
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about 20, 30 years.
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I sat there in this
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moment watching
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this young lady who
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I'd never even seen
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before in my life,
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who obviously was
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having a really hard
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time maintaining
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her attraction, you
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know, and keeping her
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boundaries with me.
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And she gets closer
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and closer and
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closer and there was
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confusion, there was
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excitement, there was
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a lot of confusion.
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And then right before
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our noses touch,
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I probably started
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to close my eyes
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and puck her up.
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I dunno what
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I did right?
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And I was like, this
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is gonna be, wow.
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Don't tell mom
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about this.
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Um, so right at
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the last second.
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She dive bombs
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to this cheek and
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gives me a kiss and
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to this cheek and
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gives me a kiss and
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leans back and says
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something in Spanish
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to which I assume
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was, we're not gonna
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make it very much
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further young man.
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Right?
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, this isn't what
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you think this is.
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Um, I'm sure there
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was a serious amount
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of rejection and
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disappointment as
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the, as the blood
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drained from my
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face, realizing
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all of my hopes
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and dreams in this
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moment were really
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nothing more than a
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nice greeting from
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someone who thought I
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was important enough
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relationally to value
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because I was a friend
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of someone's friend.
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It was just a
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stupid greeting.
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And to this day, I
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hate this greeting
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'cause it takes
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me back to my
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sophomore year of
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rejection, right?
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Uh, now not so much.
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But if you go to
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other culture, has
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anybody ever been
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kissed by somebody
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in another culture?
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Tim, do you wanna talk
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about it in front of
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your wife right now?
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Not, not right now.
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Another time.
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Another time.
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It'd be good, right?
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It is a weird deal.
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It's just a
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weird deal.
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And I, and I'm really
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glad we don't do that.
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Um.
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I'm glad Jamie's
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not out there
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kissing guys.
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Welcome 'em
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to White Rock.
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You know what I mean?
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That would just not
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feel right to me.
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In fact, in the 13th
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century, the church
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got away from this
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tradition, but this
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was a normal practice
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in the early church
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to greet one another
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with a holy kiss.
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Right?
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Still in the Eastern
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Orthodox Church
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during the Easter
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time, they have a,
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they have a really
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weird poem about
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the bearded faces
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kissing one another
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and you're just like,
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Ugh, what's going on?
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Right.
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It's just, just
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not maybe what we
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do, but this idea
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of the kiss of
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greeting is actually
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pretty significant.
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And I know it feels
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like a little bait
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and switch, right?
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Like, wait a second.
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We were gonna talk
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about how to make
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out with somebody.
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What is this
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all about?
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What's going well?
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Hang with me.
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I don't think
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we'll get there,
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but hang with me.
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Um, let me just
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take a quick little
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detour into this
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area of love.
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I shared this this
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week with my students
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a little bit at
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the school, but the
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word love is such a
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complicated thing, and
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in America we rock.
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All love as romantic
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stuff, right?
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But in the New
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Testament, the
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word that gets used
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is actually four
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different words to
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help paint the picture
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of what love is.
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Words like aeros,
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Ophelia, storge, and
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agape are all words
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used to describe love
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in the New Testament
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church and in the New
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Testament language,
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storge is this love
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of family, right?
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Brothers, sisters,
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moms, dads, cousins.
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Like there's a,
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there's a bond
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there of family.
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Eros is where we
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get the word erotic.
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It's a romantic
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kind of love, right?
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It's what Jamie feels
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towards me right now.
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Um, Felia is, uh, I'm
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be in trouble anyhow,
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guys, after today.
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So I might as well get
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my money's worth, you
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know what I'm saying?
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So Felia.
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You might know
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this from the
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city of Brotherly
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Love Philadelphia.
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Felia is friendship.
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Love a connection
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of friendship.
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No idea why
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Philadelphia is the
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reflection of that
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in America, but at
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any rate, and then
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Agape love is this
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unconditional love
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of God, this crazy
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awesome love that
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chases us to the
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very gates of hell.
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And we see in God's
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love a reflection
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of all these, right?
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Like storge, we're
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invited into family
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and relationship.
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Sons and daughters
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adopted into the
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family of God,
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joint heirs with
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Jesus, right?
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We see in this aeros,
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not so much romantic
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love, but covenant
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relationship, love
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that God has for us.
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The same.
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That should be between
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a husband and a wife.
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And we see
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Felia love, man.
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We're called
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friends of God
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in the scripture
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relationship.
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Joint airs with
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Jesus, but friends
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with Jesus, and
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then agape love.
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Kinda incorporates
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all of that in an
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unconditional way.
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So when Paul talks
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about this idea of
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the kiss, much to
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the disappointment
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of some of you, he
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does not mean to
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greet one another
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with an erotic kiss.
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He doesn't mean kiss
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your sister, though.
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That's not a
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bad approach to
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thinking of romantic
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relationships
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like we ought to
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honor other women.
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Like scripture says,
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treating them like
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sisters and brothers
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until we move into
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romantic relationship
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of covenant marriage,
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might affect how we
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treat people and see
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their worth and value.
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And he is not
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talking agape love.
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Lemme give you
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the Greek word.
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It's pronounced
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phileo.
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And I don't know how
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good your matching
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skills are from Sesame
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Street, but when
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you look up there,
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it looks a lot like
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Ophelia Love Ophelia.
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You know what
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I'm saying?
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So this idea of
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greeting one another
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with a holy kiss.
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It's about the
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bond of friendship,
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intimate connection,
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relationship.
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And it was a practice
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in the early church.
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And if you allow me,
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my brain does these
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kind of things, why?
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Right?
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Just why.
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What was the
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motivation?
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What was the reason?
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What's behind this?
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And I love to ask this
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question, why is this
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even in scripture?
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Right?
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And lemme tell you,
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it's not just here
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in Corinthians, it's
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in multiple places
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in the New Testament
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where they were to
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greet one another
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with a holy kiss,
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greet one another
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with a holy kiss.
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Well, why?
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Well, I wanna throw
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three things at
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you real quick this
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morning that I think
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we better not lose
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when we laugh off the
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idea of the holy kiss
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between brothers and
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sisters in Christ.
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So lemme explore
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these with you
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for just a moment.
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I think one of the key
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things that's really
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important about a
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kiss and specifically
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a greeting of a
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holy kiss between
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brothers and sisters
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in Christ is this
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picture right here,
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intimacy, intimacy.
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A kiss is a really
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intimate thing, right?
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It's part of why
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when whoever she was
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was getting really
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close, man, I was
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like, whoa, this
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is, this is awkward
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and uncomfortable
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and I don't think we
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should be doing this.
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And we don't know
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each other that well.
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Right?
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Like it's intimate
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to be kissed by
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somebody or to kiss
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somebody, right?
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And it has these
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couple of, uh,
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concepts to it.
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The idea of connection
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in intimacy and the
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idea of closeness.
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And as followers of
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Jesus Christ, we are
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connected in store.
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Gay love as family
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literally, and also
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in feel your love
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as friendship and
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comradery, right?
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There is a bond
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for those of us
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who are in Christ
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and in this family.
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We're in this
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thing together.
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There should be a
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measure of intimacy
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with the people that
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you do church with.
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If you don't, if
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everybody you know
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is a stranger, you're
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missing a huge piece
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of what the church
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is supposed to be.
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We're supposed to
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be connected to each
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other, invested in
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each other, caring
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about each other.
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Right.
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And the idea of
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closeness has this
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element of, of
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even affection.
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Like I know sometimes
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it's hard, right?
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But we're supposed
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to kinda like each
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other and work at
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liking each other so
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that maybe we could
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even love each other.
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Right?
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And listen, not
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everybody gets
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my sense of humor
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or appreciates
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hanging out with me.
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I can totally
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get that.
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No, no offense taken.
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But that doesn't
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diminish the closeness
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and the connection
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that we have through
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Jesus Christ.
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We're in this
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thing together.
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On our retreat time,
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we had couples sharing
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some of their story in
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our worship service.
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We let people share
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with one another.
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We had an incredible
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time on our men's
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group last, last
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week just sharing
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and talking together.
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There's a bond
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and a closeness
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and a connection
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that we share in
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our relationship
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in Jesus Christ.
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That's reflected in
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how the church was
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to greet one another,
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almost like a visual
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reminder that we are
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intimately connected.
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I lean in and I
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give you a kiss of
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greeting because
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we're connected and
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because you matter
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to me and we're in
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this thing together.
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We don't look from a
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distance and wave or
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just try to ignore
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each other, but
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we engage and this
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kiss of intimacy,
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not erotic love,
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but friendship
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and family love is
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really important
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to think about.
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This other word
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I wanna throw at
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you is this word
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vulnerability.
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Now those of you,
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lemme say this
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real quick about
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kissing real fast.
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Um, big fan, big fan.
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Uh, but the more you
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save kissing for a
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covenant relationship,
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the better you're
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experiencing kissing
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and the better your
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life is gonna be.
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I talk to people
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all the time who are
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like, well, I probably
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need to have sex with
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somebody so I know if
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I'm any good at it.
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So when I get married,
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no, you don't.
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You'll figure it out.
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Kind of the same
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deal with kissing
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too, right?
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Like, what if
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I'm a bad kisser?
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If somebody loves you,
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they're gonna figure
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out how to s slob it
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all over your face.
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Fine.
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It doesn't
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matter, right?
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You're not gonna
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need to perfect
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the technique.
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You're gonna be fine.
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Kissing is an
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expression of
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vulnerability
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and intimacy and
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connection, right?
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We diminish those
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things and we make 'em
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like, just do whatever
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you want, but we kind
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of diminish something
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special about it.
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A kiss is kind
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of risky, right?
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It's kind of risky.
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You're putting
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yourself out there.
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I mean.
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I don't know what it's
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like to be rejected,
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but I can imagine
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other people, right?
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, right?
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We've probably mostly
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been there, right?
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Like yesterday when I
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was like, Hey, Jamie,
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and she's like, get
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away from me, right?
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We, it still goes
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on in marriage, just
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trust me, right?
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Like, there is
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rejection that we
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experience because of
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vulnerability, right?
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But you can't
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connect in a deep,
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intimate way without
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being vulnerable.
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There's a risk to it.
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And in relationship
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with Jesus Christ,
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and together at his,
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his church and his
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body, you know, when
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you make yourself
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vulnerable, sometimes
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it's a little risky.
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It is.
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But there's no
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reward without
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the risk, right?
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There's no deeper
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level of intimacy
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without the risk.
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And, you know, uh,
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it's maybe a little
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unsafe, right?
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You put yourself
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out there and, and
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you're unguarded,
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you're vulnerable.
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That's the picture of
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what vulnerability is.
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You're not safe.
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You're, you're
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at risk.
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This.
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Definition is awesome.
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It says, exposed
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to the possibility
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of being easily
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hurt or attacked.
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And that's where
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we live a lot
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of times, right?
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As guarded people,
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we don't wanna put
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ourselves out there
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because now we're
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exposed to the
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possibility that
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somebody might hurt
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us or that somebody
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might do something.
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And listen, , we talk
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about at our couples
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street law, you can't
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move to deeper levels
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of intimacy until
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you work through
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conflict with people.
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We do this all
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the time, right?
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We butt heads in
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conflict, and then
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we turn and walk
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away on each other.
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That's stupid, right?
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We go like, well,
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somebody hurt
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my feelings.
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Somebody said
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something.
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And so I'm breaking
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and severing
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relationship.
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But the key thing
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that we need to
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do is work through
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those conflicts with
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communication and
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some appropriate
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ways of remembering
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how to submit to one
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another in love and
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talk through things.
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Because when we do
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that, we get to deeper
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levels of intimacy
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so that the next time
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there's a conflict,
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we don't just bail.
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We know, Hey, we've
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been here before I, we
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got each other's back.
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We're for each other.
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We're gonna find a
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way through this.
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So many marriages
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hit conflict and
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quit on each other.
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So many relationships
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within the church just
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quit on each other
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is, is garbage man.
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There's depth and
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there's joy when
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you work through
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conflict and you don't
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quit on each other,
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but you can't get
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there unless you're
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willing to be exposed
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and be vulnerable.
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It's one of my
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greatest values
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about our church
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is just being
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genuine and real.
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Can you get
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hurt by that?
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Yes, of course.
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And listen, if
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somebody in here has
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hurt your feelings
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or said something,
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man, we need to work
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towards communication
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and reconciliation
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there because
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that's just what the
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devil wants, man.
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He plants seeds a
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division, and he
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tries to stir stuff
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up and he tries to
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get us seeing things
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and looking at things
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and feeling things
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from angles that
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he can manipulate.
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And man, when we just
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walk in the truth
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and we're genuine
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and honest and open
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and transparent
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with one another
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and vulnerable, it
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doesn't, I mean, when
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somebody comes to
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you in vulnerability,
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that's oftentimes met.
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Whew.
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Embraced vulnerability
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from your
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perspective, right?
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There's something
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beautiful when two
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vulnerable people
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come together.
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Quite honestly, if
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you wanna go back
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to the kissing idea,
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it's part of the
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magic of a kiss.
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When two people put
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everything at risk
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and they lean out
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into that space and
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they're met with
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somebody else, putting
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everything at risk
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and meeting out in
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that space, there's
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some magic there.
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And don't miss
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the significance
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of a relationship
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in the church
-
of Jesus Christ.
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We don't wanna
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get hurt, we don't
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wanna feel pain, but
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man, if we don't,
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we miss so much.
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And lemme just
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remind you of
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this simple little
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truth right here.
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Jesus didn't call us
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to a life of safety.
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He told us to put
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ourselves at risk.
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And in this life we're
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gonna have trouble.
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But he's overcome
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the world.
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Go to the highways,
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the byways, go into
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all the world and
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make disciples.
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That is not a
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call to safety
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and guarding and
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protection and looking
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out for my own.
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We're supposed
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to be exposed and
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vulnerable and open
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and willing to engage
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with a world that's
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a mess and hurting.
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And we just wanna
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protect and rally on
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our little fortress
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and not engage.
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And I think we miss
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something powerful
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when we're willing
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to be vulnerable with
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the people around
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us, especially in
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our church family.
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And let that build.
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And you bring more
-
and more people into
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that space, and more
-
and more people learn
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what it looks like to
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walk in vulnerability
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together.
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It's a beautiful
-
picture of what the
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early church walked
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and experienced.
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And then just this
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last one I wanna
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throw at you is
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this word, humility.
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Humility.
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You can get
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some serious
-
rejection, right?
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If you humble
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yourself, you can.
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They don't like
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me, they don't
-
wanna be around me.
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Uh, I got rebuffed.
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Sure, sure.
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But you can't
-
experience intimacy
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without a measure
-
of humility.
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I like this image
-
here of lowering
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myself, right?
-
And I was thinking
-
about greetings and
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how in other places
-
in the world, people
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do different stuff.
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And over in Asia, you
-
know, it's kind of
-
customary, uh, to kind
-
of maybe do a bow,
-
which some historians
-
would tell us that
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there's something
-
there visually about
-
lowering myself
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to acknowledge
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the presence of
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someone else.
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There's humility
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in that engaged
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connection
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of greeting.
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And, you know, , I was
-
thinking about this
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with our young guys.
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You know,
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what do we do?
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We're like just
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out a, a, a, right?
-
We're trying to
-
get taller than
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the other person.
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We're trying to
-
look bigger than
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the other person
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instead of bringing
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ourselves low.
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To acknowledge the
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value in the other
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person around us.
-
And there's an element
-
of humility that comes
-
with the greeting
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of a holy kiss.
-
We humble ourselves
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to greet one another
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as a reminder
-
to be intimate.
-
To be vulnerable,
-
but also to think
-
of others more
-
highly of our than
-
ourselves, right?
-
To submit to one
-
another out of love
-
and to treat other
-
people with the
-
same value that we
-
treat everyone so
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that there's equal
-
footing and equal
-
love and acceptance
-
for everyone.
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Greet one another
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with a holy kiss.
-
I was thinking about
-
this because in
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the 13th century,
-
like I said, this
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kind of died out.
-
It got maybe a little
-
abused and manipulated
-
or whatever.
-
And I just wanna
-
say this, I don't
-
want to reinstate
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this practice.
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I don't think it's
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something, um, there's
-
a lot of facial hair
-
in here and I'm just
-
not looking forward to
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a good kiss on Rusty's
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lips or what not.
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Lips, maybe cheek.
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Okay.
-
Sorry.
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Just making sure.
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Just making sure.
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Um.
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But I was wondering
-
about this.
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Has the hug replaced
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the holy kiss?
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And I was thinking
-
about it from
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this context.
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Church hug a lot.
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Maybe you're like,
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don't touch me,
-
and maybe that's
-
worth exploring.
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Why don't touch me.
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But you know, when
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you think about
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this question,
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who do you hug?
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Who do you hug?
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You hug your family.
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Probably maybe some
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of you reluctantly.
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All right,
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grandma, right?
-
Whatever.
-
Uh, you might hug
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your friends, right?
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We'll fill your love.
-
Um, do you hug a
-
total stranger?
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Some of you have
-
issues and you do.
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You're like,
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Hey, gimme a hug.
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It's so great to
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have coffee in
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this line with you.
-
Super great, right?
-
Um, and maybe
-
that's cool.
-
Maybe that's cool.
-
But the truth is we
-
don't get intimate
-
with total strangers,
-
and that's not what
-
Paul's calling us
-
to do here, right?
-
He's not saying,
-
you know, you
-
should go out there
-
and be intimate.
-
Everybody, right?
-
This idea of intimacy
-
and vulnerability
-
and humility,
-
it's for those who
-
are followers of
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Jesus Christ in
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relationship together
-
and walking out what
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it looks like to be
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the family of God.
-
And maybe I'll
-
stick that in there.
-
I don't think
-
that's biblical,
-
per se, but maybe
-
the vulnerability
-
of hugging somebody
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is a thing, right?
-
Hugging somebody for
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some of us is kind of,
-
well, it's a little
-
bit in my bubble and
-
in my space that's
-
intimate, right?
-
It's vulnerable
-
and awkward, right?
-
You might put yourself
-
out there and get
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like the weird half
-
corner hug with the
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chest, you know, thump
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from the shoulder
-
blade from the other
-
guy or gal, and it's
-
just like that was
-
the worst hug in
-
the world, right?
-
It kind of
-
happens, right?
-
And there's a humility
-
of like, I don't wanna
-
touch everybody, but
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all right, all right.
-
Right.
-
I'll give you a hug.
-
I'm not saying
-
we need to
-
reinstitute the hug.
-
I'm not saying that we
-
should reinstitute the
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holy kiss, but what
-
I am saying is the
-
way that early church
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greeted one another.
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Was a reminder of the
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status they shared
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together as family
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and as friends.
-
And if we get away
-
from that and we just
-
become spectators
-
at church or become
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concert attendees,
-
we miss the heartbeat
-
of what the church is
-
supposed to be about.
-
At its core, it's
-
relationship.
-
It's a relationship
-
with God.
-
It's a relationship
-
with each other.
-
God himself is
-
relational, right?
-
God the Father, God
-
the Son, God the
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Holy Spirit, he's in
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triune relationship.
-
We want to come to
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church, sterilize
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the experience, and
-
I get the whole covid
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fist bump thing and
-
the elbow stuff, and
-
the cheesy things.
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We tried to figure
-
out how to touch
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but not touch.
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But I would challenge
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you to find a way
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to engage and to
-
greet members of this
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eternal family that
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you hang out with in a
-
way that reminds them
-
and reminds you that
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you are intimately
-
connected and
-
there is closeness.
-
You're willing
-
to not be guarded
-
against them, right?
-
And that you don't
-
think of yourself to
-
be above superior to
-
them, but that they
-
have equal value
-
and they matter.
-
And they have
-
equal worth.
-
That's the picture
-
of what it means to
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greet one another
-
with a holy kiss.
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And Josh, if you
-
decide to turn this
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into a Bible study
-
tonight with the
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guys and the gals,
-
I understand man.
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Explore the whole
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kissing thing.
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Get where you need
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to get to with
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the youth group.
-
But alright,
-
let's pray.
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Lord Jesus, thank
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you so much for some
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of the practical
-
truth from your word.
-
Uh, sometimes,
-
Lord, we blow right
-
through this little
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statement that's
-
littered throughout
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all the letters
-
to the churches in
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the New Testament,
-
most of them.
-
And instead, we
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just do our thing
-
based on a cultural
-
experience of church.
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God, I pray you'd
-
help us to engage
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in love intimately.
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Vulnerable and humble
-
in our approach to
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one another that we
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might experience all
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the beauty and joy
-
and encouragement
-
that exists for
-
those of us who are
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part of your family.
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Thank you for your
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word and your truth.
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In Jesus' name.
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Amen.
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Hey, speaking of
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connection, I was
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gonna bring my
-
beautiful wife up
-
here to help me do
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these announcements
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real quick because,
-
uh, I might be in
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the dog house and if
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she's like, you know
-
what, I wanna practice
-
this kissing thing,
-
I will definitely
-
be open to that.
-
And so, anyways, yeah.
-
Alright.
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As we wrap up this
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morning, just a
-
quick, uh, heads
-
up on a couple key
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things and we'll
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get you outta here.
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Yes.
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Not gonna tell
-
you what I'm gonna
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preach about next
-
week, but all right.
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So
-
awkward.
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It won't be
-
the first time.
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It won't be
-
the first time.
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That's true.
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Hey, tell us what's
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going on tonight.
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Jam.
-
All right.
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Youth group and
-
young adult college
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kids at our house,
-
but youth group here
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from six to seven 30.
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Super cool.
-
And then on Tuesday,
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financial peace,
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financial piece.
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Six 30, Saturday,
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9:00 AM rock.
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And rolling.
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Tim, people could
-
still get in right
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if they want to take
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a shot at this one.
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So please catch
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Tim in the back if
-
you're interested.
-
We have some cool
-
free stuff for you
-
to get and it's
-
pretty awesome.
-
Yeah, uh, some
-
subscription stuff
-
that the church is
-
covering for anybody
-
who wants to be in it.
-
So if you have
-
any interest,
-
please catch Tim.
-
Super big deal.
-
What's going on
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on Wednesday?
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Women's group Girls.
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We were canceled out
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two weeks ago from
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the weather, so this
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weather looks amazing.
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And did you want me to
-
throw in Monday night
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is the hike, Tara
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will be sending that.
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Did you want me
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to throw that in?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Monday night.
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Um, we are doing a
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hike for February.
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Tara will send out
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the details at pot.
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5 30, 30
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Potter's Bridge.
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So guys, it'd be a
-
really bad time to
-
be like, Hey, why
-
don't you take a
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hike tonight, woman.
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Not a way to say it.
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Right.
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Would you like
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to go on a hike?
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Definitely.
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Now leading to
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kissing more.
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Oh, good point.
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Good point.
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Small groups
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are underway.
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Dax is up here
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in the front.
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You can catch
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him if you have
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any questions.
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Um, some of your
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parents have been
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clamoring with
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excitement about this.
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Yay.
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See Tom and Shannon.
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It's very exciting.
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Very exciting.
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I, yes.
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I don't have
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littles anymore to
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be like, woo-hoo.
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Oh, we can't take
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our teenagers over
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there and drop 'em off
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with Tom and Shannon.
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My bad.
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I misunderstood
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this whole slide.
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Just kidding.
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Hey, parents,
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night out.
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Make sure you
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get signed up.
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I think there's a
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signed up next door.
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Don't miss it first
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come, first serve.
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I'm just kidding.
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I think it's
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a big opening.
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So, lots of fun stuff.
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And as Verla pointed
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out, we're still
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collecting soups this
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week or this, well, I
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guess this week, uh,
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as we wrap up February
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to find ways that we
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can love and encourage
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people with some food
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and, uh, super cool at
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the Wix building, what
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they're doing there.
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That's just, that's
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just super neat.
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White Rock.
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Love you so much.
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So good to
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be together.
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Why don't you, uh,
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greet one another
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with a holy hug
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and have an awesome
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week in the Lord?
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Love you guys.