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Ephesians: The Good Church (Week 5) - Wives, Husbands, Submit to One Another

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  1. Ephesians 521 through 33. It says, Submit to one another

  2. out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit yourselves to your

  3. own husbands as you do the Lord. For the husband is the head of

  4. the wife, as Christ is the head of the church, his body of which

  5. he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to

  6. Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in

  7. everything. Husbands, love your wives, just

  8. as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, to make

  9. her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the

  10. Word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church,

  11. without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and

  12. blameless. In this same way husbands ought

  13. to love their wives as their own bodies.

  14. He who loves his wife, loves himself.

  15. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed

  16. and care for their body, just as Christ does the Church, for we

  17. are members of His body. For this reason, a man will

  18. leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the

  19. two will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery, but

  20. I am. But I am talking about Christ

  21. and the Church. However, each one of you also

  22. must love. Sorry, love his wife as he loves

  23. himself and the wife must respect her husband.

  24. Amen. This is the word of the Lord.

  25. Thanks be to God, there is this growing trend that's taking

  26. place specifically more on social media.

  27. It's this trend called trad wives.

  28. As any of you any of you heard of this before, which is short

  29. for traditional wives. Basically, they're these women

  30. who are getting on social media and they're showcasing a more

  31. domesticated style of life. OK, so this means they're

  32. getting on on social media, showcasing themselves, making

  33. homemade food, raising their kids, cleaning their house, even

  34. being willing to put on a make up and a dress for their husband

  35. even though they're staying at home.

  36. Now, as you can imagine, this is growing some controversy out on

  37. the Internet. Some people are criticizing it,

  38. saying it's a step backward for women.

  39. Others, they just say it's an unrealistic sort of nostalgic

  40. view of a bygone era and that we don't want to go back to that

  41. time frame. Others, however, maybe even in

  42. some Christian circles, are celebrating the more traditional

  43. gender roles. They're emphasizing the the

  44. beauty of motherhood, they might say, which by the way, we would

  45. all agree is one of the highest and most beautiful callings

  46. ever. So what we're seeing is

  47. especially with younger generations that they are

  48. becoming women more and more are becoming open to the idea of

  49. more traditional gender roles. There was an Australian study

  50. done by The Conversation. What they found that was that

  51. young women significantly increased their support for

  52. gendered roles with the proportion who are disagreeing

  53. with disagreeing with the idea of of poor gender roles.

  54. Basically 5057% in 2010 used to think that traditional gender

  55. roles were were no good. That's down from 57 to 43% in

  56. 2024. Isn't that interesting?

  57. Gen. Z women are more and more into

  58. the traditional gender roles now.

  59. What's alarming, and what's alarming for a lot of different

  60. people is that this comes at the same time that there's a spike

  61. in the conversation around men's role in the society.

  62. There's this thing out on the Internet.

  63. It's called the manosphere, and you've ever heard of this?

  64. And what it is, is it's basically a collection of

  65. websites, blogs, and online forums that are promoting

  66. masculinity, promoting misogyny, and promoting opposition to

  67. feminism. So the manosphere includes

  68. groups like Men's Rights Activists in Cells or which is

  69. short for Involuntary Celibates and Pick Up Artists or Puas for

  70. sure. Here's what's happening.

  71. These men in the manosphere are claiming that they are now the

  72. oppressed gender as led by men like Andrew Tate and a few

  73. others. So here's what's happening in

  74. the culture with these trends. The manosphere tells young men

  75. they are losing a rightful status and can get it back

  76. through hardness, discipline, and dominance.

  77. Meanwhile, the trad wife culture tells women that freedom from

  78. the rat race can be found in beauty, dependence and a

  79. domestic order. And what we think is happening

  80. is that because there's been so much confusion out in the

  81. culture surrounding gender politics, because there's been

  82. so much noise out there in regard to this conversation,

  83. we're seeing that people are looking elsewhere for a sense of

  84. structure and stability within chaos.

  85. These two kind of different and opposing streams that we're

  86. seeing, they provide a certain level of certainty and chaos.

  87. It's sort of like saying I want control over my life, often

  88. times pointing to a common enemy.

  89. So the question for us today, does the Bible, does

  90. Christianity have anything to say about men and women in

  91. marriage, about how we should treat each other in our posture

  92. towards one another? Are women designated to be in a

  93. subordinate role forever to men? And are men meant to rule over

  94. their wives and their kids and their employees?

  95. That's the question we're going to address today.

  96. And many of you are thinking, wow, Ben, bold choice on

  97. Mother's Day to preach on this topic, right?

  98. We had this plan before I realized what day it was because

  99. we're working through an Ephesian series today.

  100. So go easy on me. All right, No, I know today's

  101. going to be encouraging for all of us today.

  102. So we're going to be in Ephesians chapter 5 today.

    Ephesians 5 chapter mention

  103. We always encourage physical Bibles, but it'll be on the

  104. screens as well. Just try and get this in front

  105. of you. It's helpful to get the whole

  106. text in front of you, especially today as we're going through the

  107. different passages and jumping around a bit.

  108. OK, we've been going through an Ephesians series and the first

  109. half is all about the victory that Christ has won for all of

  110. the believers. His church talks about the

  111. beautiful family that God is bringing together and building

  112. now through the resurrection and victory of Christ.

  113. So chapters one through three are basically demonstrating.

  114. They're highlighting what has been won.

  115. But chapters 4 through 6, where we're going to be today, it's

  116. emphasizing the practical nature of how we should now live.

  117. So we're going to be in Ephesians chapter 5, and we're

    Ephesians 5 chapter mention

  118. going to begin in verse 15. Verse 15 it says this.

  119. Be careful then how you live, not as unwise but as wise,

  120. making the most of every opportunity, because the days

  121. are evil. Therefore do not be foolish, but

  122. understand what the word Lord's will is.

  123. Do not get drunk on wine which leads to debauchery.

  124. Instead, be filled with the Spirit. 19 This is what it looks

  125. like to be filled with the Spirit speaking to one another

  126. with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit.

  127. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, always giving

  128. thanks to God the Father for everything in the name of our

  129. Lord Jesus Christ. So Paul begins here by saying he

  130. he gives a series of not but statements, not as unwise but as

  131. wise, not drunk on wine, but filled with the Spirit.

  132. And so when Paul talks about being filled with the Spirit in

  133. the Greek, it's the idea of he's saying be being filled with the

  134. Spirit. This is a continual ongoing

  135. filling of the Holy Spirit. Now, sometimes an encounter and

  136. filling with the Holy Spirit is radical and it's powerful.

  137. You can feel it. You feel maybe a moment of peace

  138. or warmth or power come over you.

  139. Maybe in a time of desperation. You feel a supernatural comfort

  140. within you. And those are all wonderful

  141. things. We encourage that.

  142. We believe that the Holy Spirit moves in real and mighty ways

  143. even today. He still heals, He still gives

  144. gifts, etcetera. But Paul here gives a list of

  145. five participles of what it looks like for the Christian to

  146. be filled with the Spirit. The five are these speaking,

  147. singing, making music, giving thanks and then finally our our

  148. focus today submitting to one another.

  149. OK, so do you see how this passage is kind of laid out,

  150. Paul saying be continually filled with the spirit.

  151. This is what this looks like. It's not always in like, you

  152. know, tingles down your back or goose pimples or anything like

  153. that, but rather being filled with the Holy Spirit is

  154. exhibited by these things, including submitting to one

  155. another. You with me so far, Harold

  156. Honour puts it this way with the indwelling meaning like the the

  157. Holy Spirit living in us. He says with the indwelling,

  158. each Christian has all of the Spirit.

  159. Amen. He says, but the command to be

  160. filled with the Spirit enables the Spirit to have all of the

  161. believer. Wow.

  162. So when we have when we have the Holy Spirit, we have all of the

  163. Holy Spirit, but being filled with the Spirit is allowing the

  164. Spirit to have all of us. You with me, OK, I hear you.

  165. I hear you a little bit. That's good.

  166. And so Paul specifically, he gets into three different, three

  167. different sort of relationships in which this is lived out.

  168. He talks about submission to wives, to husbands, husband to

  169. wives, children to parents, parents to children, slaves to

  170. masters, masters to slaves. Ephesians 5, verse 21.

    Ephesians 5:21

  171. Take a look at it. Ephesians 521.

  172. This is the banner text. This is the most important thing

  173. we are going to cover today. Paul writes this.

  174. Submit to one another out of reverence to Christ, submit to

  175. one another out of reverence for Jesus.

  176. In the Greek, this is the word hypotasomanoe.

  177. It's in the present passive participle.

  178. So again, it's the idea of an ongoing willing yielding to one

  179. another, yielding to your spouse and whatever relationship you're

  180. in. And so the command to be

  181. submitted to one another in verse 21 is the banner

  182. instruction over this entire passage all the way through 69.

  183. So this is sort of the umbrella by which everything else falls

  184. underneath it. Does that make sense?

  185. And So what we see here is Paul is commanding and instructing

  186. the believers in the churches of Ephesus to practice something

  187. called mutual voluntary submission.

  188. It's mutual because it involves both parties.

  189. It's together, it's voluntary, and that it's freely done or

  190. it's consensual if you want to use that word.

  191. And it's also submission, meaning there is a humble

  192. yielding happening with one another.

  193. So if someone were to come up to me and say, hey, Ben, how would

  194. you describe your relationship with Susan Susan's my wife?

  195. How would you describe the relationship between my wife and

  196. I? We would likely say something

  197. like this. Susan and I are continually

  198. submitted to one another. Right, babe?

  199. We would say something like that.

  200. OK, She's nodding her head. Let the record show she's

  201. nodding her head. Took a risk there.

  202. It paid off. We did not plan that.

  203. OK, continually submitted to one another.

  204. But this is so difficult in a marriage, is it not?

  205. As a matter of fact, since the since the beginning of time,

  206. since the beginning of man, this has been a problem for men and

  207. women. In chapter 3 we see already how

  208. difficult it is. Genesis 3 we see that beginning.

  209. God had made everything good. He made it beautiful, He made it

  210. perfect. He made man and woman to be in

  211. relationship with one another and with Him.

  212. But then man rebelled and he sinned and entered in the curse.

  213. And part of this curse, part of the part of the byproduct of

  214. man's sin, is found in chapter 316 in Genesis.

  215. The curses, your desire will be for your husband and he will

  216. rule over you. This is not God's intended

  217. design for marriage. Rather, this is the natural

  218. consequence of a broken and fallen world.

  219. This is the curse. Does that make sense?

  220. Human beings, you and I believers in Christ.

  221. We are designed to reverse the curse through Christ likeness.

  222. More and more we see the battle of the sexes playing out all

  223. over in our culture. It's been going on since the

  224. dawn of man. Now, in Paul's day, no surprise,

  225. there was also power plays taking place to which he was

  226. likely addressing. In fact, in the Greco Roman

  227. society, there was these things called household codes.

  228. It was basically the ethic and the rule of the day.

  229. So this is a quote from Aristotle.

  230. You maybe heard of him. Great guy, pretty smart.

  231. This highlights the thinking and the understanding of how

  232. households should run in their day.

  233. This is what he says of household management.

  234. We have seen that there are three parts. 1 is the rule of a

  235. master over slaves, another of a father and 1/3 of a husband.

  236. A husband and father rules over wife and children.

  237. Sheesh. Kind of harsh there, Aristotle.

  238. OK, notice how he's only addressing the men here.

  239. He's addressing the masters, the fathers, and the husband.

  240. Notice the language he says they are to rule over their

  241. respective partners there. He's only addressing the men.

  242. Aren't we glad we followed Jesus and not Aristotle?

  243. OK Paul, on the other hand, is subverting this.

  244. He flips this completely on its head.

  245. Instead, he addresses everyone as equal moral agents, starting

  246. with the wives first, That's significant.

  247. Paul is doing something here in this passage that we're

  248. addressing. Ben Witherington, the third.

  249. He's a scholar. He puts it this way.

  250. Paul, by placing this verse here, is critiquing the normal

  251. understanding of household relationships, where only a

  252. certain members of the household are doing the submitting or

  253. serving. Not in the Christian Church,

  254. says Paul, where everyone should submit to and serve everyone

  255. else out of reverence for Christ.

  256. Paul's subverting it on purpose. So then what he does next is

  257. Paul's saying, hey, I'm doing something different.

  258. I know you've been told it's one way in the culture, but watch

  259. this. So he begins by addressing each

  260. individual, beginning with the wives, giving them dignity and

  261. priority. Ephesians 522 wives submit to

  262. your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

  263. So he begins by addressing specifically how the wives are

  264. to submit to one another. First we need to understand

  265. something about 22 is that 22 doesn't make sense except for

  266. when you look at the verse right before it, 21.

  267. In other words, that word submit isn't actually in the Greek.

  268. So it should say something like this, submitting to one another.

  269. That's 21 wives to your husband's, and so he's

  270. illustrating how the submission should look in each individual

  271. context. The new Living Translation

  272. actually gets this right and communicates it quite well.

  273. It says submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

  274. For wives, this means to your husbands.

  275. For husbands this means love your wives.

  276. So does that make sense? So again, the banner

  277. instruction, submit to one another out of reverence for

  278. Christ, submit to one another. Here's how it looks in each

  279. individual context for each person.

  280. So the instruction then to the wives flows from the previous

  281. thought in verse 21. In other words, they're

  282. inseparable. You can't just start preaching

  283. verse 22 without preaching 21. That's significant.

  284. In other words, verse 22 submits to verse 21.

  285. That's an easy way to remember that.

  286. You're welcome. This matters when it comes to

  287. controversial passages when let's say wives submit to your

  288. husbands. Does that make sense?

  289. This is why we're taking time to address this.

  290. He continues on Paul in verse 23, verse 23.

  291. Wives submit to your husbands for the husband is the head or

  292. or sorry is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the

  293. church, his body of which he is the Savior.

  294. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should

  295. submit to their husbands in everything.

  296. Now there's some controversy over the word head of the wife.

  297. What exactly does that mean? There's a little bit of debate

  298. over this, but the scholarship leans towards interpreting the

  299. word kephalae, which is the Greek word for head.

  300. Kephalae is commonly most literally translated as a

  301. literal head, as in a crown of thorns on Jesus's kephalae.

  302. Does that make sense? So it's often times it's a

  303. literal head, but when it's used metaphorically in the ancient

  304. Greek, it means the origin or the source of something.

  305. So for instance, the spring or a fountainhead is the source in

  306. the beginning of a river. We see this is how it's used

  307. contextually in Greco Roman societies.

  308. That make sense. So the head then is the source

  309. or the origin. The scholars over at the Bible

  310. Project, whom I love, they write it this way.

  311. The physical head in ancient Greek thought was assumed to be

  312. the source of the body's functions, the source of

  313. information, perception and provision for the entire body.

  314. In Ephesians 522 and 23, Paul portrays the husband as the head

  315. of the wife, primarily in terms of source, as an allusion to

  316. Adam and Eve and as the story shows, where the woman was made

  317. out of the man. So if you've been in church long

  318. enough, you've heard about how Eve came from Adam's what rib,

  319. right? Better translation is Adam's

  320. side connotating equality, connotating nextness.

  321. OK. And So what what we're seeing

  322. here is that woman, it's her source.

  323. And the story of Adam and Eve woman's source was literally

  324. Adam. Does that make sense?

  325. He is the head in this terminology.

  326. We see in the in the beginning that when God created man and

  327. woman, He created them to be equal leaders.

  328. Genesis 218 the Lord said it is not good for man to be alone.

  329. I will make a helper suitable for him.

  330. In the Hebrew this is the phrase azare connecto.

  331. Azare is used for military might, as in a rescuer military,

  332. military aid, and it's also used 16 times for God.

  333. The word azare is used to describe God as Israel's rescuer

  334. and helper. The word connecto is the idea of

  335. a face to face equal. There's the idea of there's

  336. difference in gender and sexuality.

  337. Yes, there's difference, but there's a quality.

  338. They're standing face to face with one another.

  339. So helper suitable isn't maybe the best translation.

  340. For this, it's not strong enough.

  341. Perhaps a better paraphrase is God is saying this when it comes

  342. to woman being made from man. God is saying I will make a

  343. partner equal to him and that a beautiful picture.

  344. And what's their job? What's their role to rule over

  345. creation together. This is the calling for men and

  346. women, wives and husbands, to rule over creation as equals

  347. with one another. Doctor Cynthia L Westfall puts

  348. it this way again, going back to the idea of men being head over

  349. their wives. She says Adam is appropriately

  350. Eve's head by virtue of being her origin and source, and Eve

  351. is in turn his body by virtue of their unity as one flesh.

  352. From here, Paul finds an interpretive correlation between

  353. Eve created from Adam and the traditional cultural

  354. relationship between husbands and wives in the Roman world

  355. where the husband is the benefactor and patron of the

  356. wife from whom she derives her identity and the necessities of

  357. life. During the Greco Roman society,

  358. women very much relied on their husbands for provision, for

  359. status, etcetera. They didn't have the ability to

  360. be legal witnesses, they didn't have rights in this case, and so

  361. the husband was very much to take care of the wife.

  362. So 3 verses, 3 verses here about wives submitting to their

  363. husband and what that looks like in their context.

  364. Now, 9 verses dedicated to the husbands.

  365. OK, here we go husbands, how are we supposed to be submitting?

  366. Verse 25? This is what it says for us.

  367. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and

  368. gave himself up for her, to make her holy by cleansing her by the

  369. washing with water through the Word, and to present her to

  370. Himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any

  371. other blemish, but holy and blameless.

  372. What a vision, verse 28. In the same way, husbands ought

  373. to love their wives as their own bodies.

  374. He who loves his wife loves himself.

  375. After all, no one has ever hated their own body, but they feed

  376. and care for their body, just as Christ does the Church, for we

  377. are members of his body. For this reason a man will leave

  378. his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two

  379. will become one flesh. This is a profound mystery, but

  380. I'm talking about Christ and the Church, so here.

  381. The instruction for husbands, then, is to love, love your

  382. spouse as Christ loved the church, to lay down your life

  383. for your wives, to be willing to sacrifice, to be willing to give

  384. yourself up, to take care of your spouse as if you're taking

  385. care of your own body. We all take care of our own

  386. bodies, right? We feed it, we clothe it.

  387. You're here today. You look great, by the way.

  388. In the same way, we're meant to be taking care of our spouses.

  389. Now we see verse 33, which is sort of the bottom piece of

  390. bread on the submission sandwich.

  391. OK. This is the kind of the summary

  392. verse here for what we just read.

  393. However, each of you must also love his wife as he loves

  394. himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

  395. So the summary verse is here. Let me summarize it.

  396. Husbands love your wives. Wives respect your husbands.

  397. This is the intention that Paul is trying to communicate here.

  398. All under the banner of submit to one another out of reverence

  399. for Christ. Here's the point.

  400. This passage is not about enforcing submission on others,

  401. but Paul is calling all believers to willingly adopt

  402. Jesus's posture of submission. Jesus himself was willing to

  403. submit himself to the Father's will to come to earth and and

  404. pay the ultimate price of death on the cross for your sins and

  405. for my sins. That all who believe in Him put

  406. their faith in Him and confess Him as Lord will be saved.

  407. He was willing to submit Himself to the even the authorities over

  408. Him being nailed to a cross for you and for me.

  409. If Jesus can do it, so can we. This is the posture that we are

  410. meant to adopt. Paul was intentionally

  411. challenging the oppressive ruling power dynamics of men

  412. over women in his time. There are many people who look

  413. at Christianity Today and they look at us and they say, oh, the

  414. Bible really that antiquated ancient texts that does that

  415. really have any say over my life today?

  416. Isn't the Bible used to domineer over women and keep us stuck in

  417. the past? Well, potentially, And yes,

  418. certain verses have been used to do just that.

  419. However, the science tells a different story about the role

  420. of religion and marriage satisfaction.

  421. Here's a study. The 2019 study by the Institute

  422. of Family Studies found that highly religious couples

  423. actually have the most marital satisfaction and the most sexual

  424. satisfaction. By the way, kind of interesting.

  425. Just a little heads up. If you want to have great sex,

  426. be religious, I guess. OK, strike that from the record,

  427. OK, The National Survey of Families, check this out.

  428. The National Survey of Families and Household also found that

  429. check this out. Church going.

  430. Evangelical Protestant husbands were the least likely to be

  431. engaged in domestic abuse. OK, so pause here for a second.

  432. Church going evangelical Protestant men were the least

  433. likely to engage in domestic violence.

  434. So that's that would be us here today.

  435. We're in church Protestant non Catholic evangelical men least

  436. likely to engage in domestic abuse scientifically, the data

  437. shows. Now here's the caveat to this.

  438. The opposite is actually true for the men who don't actually

  439. go to church. Meaning men who claim to be

  440. Christian but don't actually go to church are some of the worst

  441. offenders when it comes to domestic abuse, evidently.

  442. Evidently, if you take passages like these and you use them to

  443. domineer over your spouse, problems happen.

  444. If you take passages like these, but you're not actually

  445. following in the way of Jesus in your real life by attending

  446. church and being discipled and being in community and learning

  447. what the text actually says. Evidently that is damaging to

  448. women and relationships and damaging to the reputation of

  449. Christians out in the broader world.

  450. Would you agree? Listen, this is important, guys,

  451. when it comes to passages like these, you cannot just preach

  452. verse 22, wives, submit to your husbands.

  453. You have to preach verse 21, submit to one another out of

  454. reverence for Christ. Does that make sense?

  455. So husbands, keep coming to church.

  456. Way to go, man, You're here. Keep going to church.

  457. Wives, respect your husbands and love them.

  458. Well, you hear the passion here because a lot of damage has been

  459. done by men claiming to be Christian who cherry pick

  460. certain passages to mean certain things that they did not mean

  461. that Paul did not intend for them to mean.

  462. We have to get clear about some of the stuff and what the text

  463. actually says and what Paul is trying to do.

  464. Husbands, love your wives. Wives, respect your husbands.

  465. The text does not support any kind of male dominance or

  466. domestic abuse. The text does not support

  467. telling that women must submit in silence or discouraging women

  468. from using their gifts and leadership in the church or

  469. teaching in the church. That's not what the text says.

  470. So the question becomes then, what does submission actually

  471. look like in each of these various dynamics that Paul is

  472. mentioning? So under under again the banner

  473. of submitting to one another, there's various different

  474. instructions that Paul gives. We just mentioned two of them.

  475. So wives, submission means yielded respect to your

  476. husbands. For husbands, this means

  477. submission through sacrificial love.

  478. Later on next week, we'll talk about children submission

  479. through honouring obedience. For parents this means

  480. submission through non provoking training.

  481. For slaves this means submission by respectful obedience unto the

  482. Lord. Pause here.

  483. This is not an endorsement of slavery at all.

  484. And matter of fact, Paul elsewhere says if you can get

  485. free from slavery, please do that.

  486. What Paul is saying if you find yourself in a circumstance like

  487. this, this is how you are to submit.

  488. Does that make sense? And so for masters, same thing,

  489. submission to your slaves by non threatening equity and respect.

  490. So Paul's saying submit to one another.

  491. Here's how it looks. Wherever you find yourself,

  492. whatever context you find yourself in, whatever

  493. circumstance you find yourself in, this is how it should play

  494. out. Whether you're a married,

  495. whether you're parenting, whether you're a slave, and

  496. each. Paul's goal here is not to

  497. reinforce or codify the hierarchical or domineering rule

  498. of law for his day. Rather, he subverts it,

  499. acknowledging, dignifying, and giving credit to each member of

  500. the relationship, women and men, children and parents, slaves and

  501. masters. All right, So what does this

  502. look like for us here today? Some application points #1

  503. believers are called to continually yield to one another

  504. regardless of cultural norms. And the church said Amen, Amen.

  505. Regardless of what's going on in the culture around us.

  506. In other words, it doesn't matter if like, you know, the

  507. Internet and the manosphere is saying men, we got to take back

  508. our rightful, rightful place and domineer women, they're

  509. oppressing us now. It doesn't matter, you know, if

  510. the trad wives are going back to sort of a 1950s version of

  511. gender roles regardless of cultural norms any anyway the

  512. cultural swings, it doesn't matter because in other words,

  513. the focus isn't on who's in power, who's better, or who's in

  514. control. What Paul is saying here is that

  515. all are equal under Christ Jesus.

  516. All are equal. He reiterates this in Galatians

  517. 3. There is neither Jew nor

  518. Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female.

  519. For you are all read it with me one in Christ Jesus.

  520. The focus instead is how to submit within your unique

  521. relational context wherever you find yourself in submit.

  522. So what is Christian submission and what is it not #1 being

  523. submitted in marriage is not obedience, subordination,

  524. passivity, or neglecting your leadership responsibilities.

  525. The older generations, you know, the boomers and above, they've

  526. gotten a little bit of criticism.

  527. First of all, we want to honour that generation.

  528. A lot of great came out of that, especially the greatest

  529. generation. But the criticism was that for a

  530. lot of the men, they were detached from parenting and

  531. child rearing, right? And so studies show that

  532. actually millennial men's or millennial dads are some of the

  533. most engaged in changing diapers and hanging out with their kids,

  534. which I think we can take a moment to celebrate, right?

  535. That's a good thing. Moms are more engaged than ever.

  536. There is a beautiful thing that's happening where men are

  537. no longer saying that's the woman's role, that's her job to

  538. take care of the kids and be affectionate and change their

  539. diapers. There is a there's a swing

  540. happening, which is a good thing.

  541. And so being submitted then are these things.

  542. It's releasing of control. It's choosing humility and it's

  543. being others focused. In other words, it's mutual

  544. voluntary submission. Now, there's a caveat here,

  545. right? We got to have a disclaimer here

  546. when we're talking about this. There are in fact limits to

  547. submission, OK? Obviously, in cases of domestic

  548. abuse, in the case where your spouse is trying to lead you to

  549. do something that is ungodly and directly counteract scripture,

  550. of course there are limits to that.

  551. Does that make sense? So I share that to say like,

  552. like this isn't just a blind, blind submission.

  553. There are certain limits in particular cases.

  554. So the question obviously becomes, and I hear it a lot.

  555. OK, Ben. So then who leads in the

  556. marriage? Who leads?

  557. And we need to be careful here because sometimes what people

  558. are actually asking is who's in charge in a marriage, OK?

  559. This is a different, different question.

  560. We need to be reminded that marriage is a covenantal

  561. relationship, not a hierarchical, hierarchical chain

  562. of command. An overemphasis on the power

  563. dynamics often times is a sign of a deeper issue going on.

  564. Maybe, for instance, it's a sign of emotional neglect.

  565. Maybe a husband is neglecting a wife's emotions and they're not

  566. loving them and supporting them in the way that they need to.

  567. Or the inverse, maybe maybe the spouse is withholding some

  568. respect from her husband. He's feeling degraded and so on,

  569. so forth. So usually when couples are

  570. like, well, yeah, but yeah, but who makes the call?

  571. Often times there can be something going on deeper there.

  572. OK, but who leads in your marriage, Ben?

  573. OK, here's what I would say. Here's who leads in my marriage.

  574. Jesus leads in our marriage. OK, Hang with me.

  575. Hang with me. Jesus is the one that ultimately

  576. leads. We both follow and in doing so,

  577. we both lead our family together.

  578. This is what I believe Paul is presenting before us.

  579. We are both leading in our family as we follow the true

  580. leader, as we follow his model of servant leadership, which is

  581. laying down his life for others. Practically speaking, this means

  582. that Susan and I have agreed upon roles and responsibilities

  583. and they're not based on gender specifically, OK, We each have

  584. different giftings and callings. We each have different passions,

  585. OK. So for instance, this is, this

  586. is maybe an inverse for a lot of families or traditional family

  587. values. So, for instance, my wife

  588. handles all of the finances in our home.

  589. She tracks every single transaction we make.

  590. She puts it in our budget. She sends off checks for the tax

  591. and IRA. She collects all of those

  592. documents. She does a phenomenal job.

  593. Yeah. Bimbo, why don't why don't you

  594. take care of that? Here's why.

  595. When we were both in college, I was studying Greek words and

  596. Hebrew, and she was studying business management.

  597. OK. Does that make sense to people?

  598. OK, we use our, we use our God-given giftings, our passions

  599. or whatever. And then we define the roles not

  600. around gender, but around giftings as God leads.

  601. Does that make sense? And so that's going to look

  602. radically different for each of your individual contexts.

  603. But the point is we lead together because we are on

  604. mission together. We're on mission together.

  605. We're heading in the same direction.

  606. So many petty squabbles and power plays are usually

  607. diminished when the couple has a common vision and a common

  608. mission for what their marriage is and where their family's

  609. headed. All the petty stuff just kind of

  610. goes away. Same is true in a church, by the

  611. way, right? We, we spend very little time

  612. when there's like little, little complaints or little comments

  613. about like preference oriented things in the church, like the,

  614. the, the volume of the music or what kind of coffee we use,

  615. right? We don't really care about some

  616. of that stuff. It's not because we're mean,

  617. it's because we're on mission to make disciples and that's what

  618. matters most. Does that make sense?

  619. And so in the marriage, the same thing has to be true.

  620. What are you aiming at? What are you headed towards?

  621. Because all the little petty stuff can can diminish and

  622. decrease as long as you're following Christ together,

  623. making disciples and leading your household towards him.

  624. You need mission alignment in a marriage.

  625. You with me? We got to have it, John.

  626. Mark Homer says that this way, couples who exist simply for one

  627. another are doomed to failure. Marriage is a means to an end.

  628. It exists for something larger than itself.

  629. So for the singles in the room, first of all, welcome.

  630. We're glad you're here. In no way do I mean to elevate

  631. marriage as a better or higher status.

  632. As a matter of fact, Paul would almost indicate the opposite,

  633. which is kind of cool. Singleness is a high calling.

  634. And it's it's wonderful. But you may be asking the

  635. question like, OK, so who should I marry then?

  636. And I would say this, marry whomever has mission alignment

  637. with you. Marry someone you love being

  638. around, but it has to have mission alignment.

  639. And yes, there's natural chemistry and desire that takes

  640. place. But are you pointed towards the

  641. same thing? I was recently in my

  642. discipleship band and one of my members is very, very wise.

  643. And he basically posed this question.

  644. Like when it comes to choosing a spouse, you have to ask, is she

  645. on your team, right? Is she your ride or die?

  646. Is he on your team? Is he going to go with you for

  647. thick or thin chasing Jesus with you?

  648. Why? Because if, if you're on mission

  649. together, you can both share the yoke together as you're working

  650. towards the same mission, equally yoked, not tilted one

  651. way or the other, not fighting one another, but equally yoked

  652. towards Jesus, towards the Master.

  653. Now I'm preaching to myself as I say all of this.

  654. Let me just let me just stop for a second, OK?

  655. As I was writing the sermon, there was a moment where I had

  656. to pause and be like, oh crap, I forgot to do the dishes.

  657. You know what I mean? And I had to go and do the

  658. dishes, right? Because I'm yielded to, to what

  659. we agreed on, right? And a little more seriously,

  660. there was a moment I was writing the sermon.

  661. I'm like, Oh my goodness, I don't know that I'm, I'm

  662. yielding at all. I don't know that I'm doing well

  663. at this. I don't even know if I have a

  664. right to preach this this weekend.

  665. And so honestly, I just took a moment where I sat down with

  666. Susan and we sat on the bed and I just said, how are we doing?

  667. How are we doing at this yielding thing?

  668. And she was so gracious and she reassured me.

  669. She's like, Ben, you can, you can preach this sermon with

  670. integrity this week. And we had a good talk.

  671. And it was just like a really cool moment of coming together.

  672. Not because we we're doing it perfectly.

  673. Like we would be the first to say that like we got, we have a

  674. lot of work to do, but it was just cool to have that level of

  675. unity. And I just so appreciated having

  676. that. But I wanted to preach this with

  677. integrity. But please hear me still trying

  678. to figure out how this works, Philosopher and theologian

  679. Dallas Willard said. Submission is a putting of

  680. ourselves under the interest of another person.

  681. And at first that's terrifying, right?

  682. Like putting myself under the interests of another person.

  683. But but marriage provides this beautiful framework where the

  684. unconditional love prevails, unconditional grace prevails.

  685. Like we can put ourself in the interest of another person

  686. because we know we're going to be met with unconditional

  687. commitment and love. And when we do that, it's scary

  688. at first, but we find is it's incredibly freeing for us no

  689. matter what the relationship is. Here's why.

  690. No matter the relationship we find ourselves, we can put

  691. ourselves under the interest of another.

  692. Why? Because we have a true master

  693. that's above all of it. In other words, a posture of

  694. Christ like submission brings. Freedom, because ultimately our

  695. trust is in Jesus alone. It's in Jesus, Richard Foster

  696. says what freedom corresponds to submission.

  697. It is the ability to lay down the terrible burden of always

  698. needing to get our way right. Would any of you like to lay

  699. down the burden of always needing to get your way?

  700. I hope you would. Freedom is not having your way

  701. because life is not about you. Freedom is trusting that even if

  702. the circumstances are rough, even if the idea or the partner

  703. isn't ideal and he's not perfect or she's not perfect, we can

  704. still trust in King Jesus, Casey's ruler over it all.

  705. Ephesians 51, the beginning of this chapter says, follow God's

  706. example, therefore, as dearly loved children and walk in the

  707. way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for

  708. us. Giving yourself up for others is

  709. only possible through the filling of the Holy Spirit.

  710. To be yielded to one another is to be surrendered to the Holy

  711. Spirit 1st. And so as we wrap up this

  712. sermon, a couple practical next steps for you #1 there's a book

  713. that Pastor Patrick and I love. I use it every time I go through

  714. premarital counselling with couples.

  715. It's Tim Keller, meaning of marriage.

  716. Incredible theologian. I don't even fully align with

  717. him on certain views, but it's just too good to not recommend.

  718. Secondly, I'd encourage you and your spouse to find hobbies

  719. together. Find ways that you connect.

  720. Find ways where you just enjoy going and having fun together.

  721. The demands of life are heavy. Demands of parenting are heavy.

  722. Go have fun, go reconnect. I encourage you all, parents or

  723. parents and couples, I encourage you to do some work on

  724. identifying your family of origin.

  725. What are some of the patterns you saw in your parents

  726. marriage, grandparents marriage, the roles that you've identified

  727. for them and for you? Encouraging weekly check

  728. insurance. There's a couple in our church

  729. that goes through a marriage journal every single week.

  730. They just check in weekly and go through a series of questions

  731. like clockwork and just check on check in on each other

  732. emotionally. And finally, I want to turn you

  733. on to this free resource. This is a prepare enrich

  734. workbook, which I go through with couples.

  735. You can go to presence dot city slash workbook.

  736. So just our website slash workbook free PDF download.

  737. What this is, it's a series of exercises you can run by

  738. yourself with your spouse and you can just work on very

  739. practical tools for getting better at marriage because

  740. marriage is a skill, right? Marriage is a skill and we all

  741. have to get better at it. You guys have been amazing and I

  742. know this sermons a little bit long but I want to close by

  743. sharing with you. I kept praying this week.

  744. God just give me a word for the people on Sunday.

  745. What is your word like? What do you want them to hear?

  746. And the thing that just kept coming up over and over and what

  747. I believe God kind of maybe maybe whispered at me to, to

  748. give to you today because I believe God is just basically

  749. saying this. Tell him to try again.

  750. Tell him to try again. There may be people in here who

  751. you've, you have forgiven your spouse and you've forgiven them

  752. over and over and over again and you're not sure you can forgive

  753. even one more time here today. Maybe the Lord is just saying to

  754. you, try it again. There may be some of you who are

  755. like, I've tried building connection, I've tried building

  756. intimacy with my spouse, we've tried reconnecting and it just

  757. seems like it's going the opposite direction.

  758. And I wonder for some of you today, the Lord is just saying

  759. try it again. We've tried to figure out our

  760. relationship dynamics, our roles, our household order.

  761. We've tried doing that before. It just leads to failure.

  762. It just leads to frustration. So we don't even talk about it

  763. anymore. And maybe the Lord's inviting

  764. you and he's just saying try again, try again, forgive, show

  765. grace, work on it, practice the skill, go on a date night,

  766. whatever it is, try again. Because marriage isn't

  767. ultimately about you. Marriage is a signpost pointing

  768. to Christ and the church. This entire passage we just read

  769. is not about wives and husbands, it's about Jesus, It's about

  770. Jesus. We must learn, each of us, to

  771. look through our spouse in order to see Christ.

  772. We have to learn to look through our spouses failures, their

  773. inadequacies, their imperfections, and their sins

  774. and instead see Jesus. We have to see Jesus's

  775. forgiveness and the forgiveness that he's given you and see

  776. Jesus's forgiveness for them. We have to be able to have a

  777. vision for who God is creating them to be.

  778. So finally, each one of you must also love his wife as he loves

  779. himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

  780. The battle of the sexes may be raging on out in our culture.

  781. Out there, there may be trad wives and manosphere in all

  782. sorts of confusion about dominance and who's right, who's

  783. on top, who's on the bottom, and may be raging on out in our

  784. culture. But in here, in God's holy

  785. Church, we will submit to one another out of reverence for

  786. Christ. Amen.

  787. Amen.