Sermon
Elder Appointment Service
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Speaker: I want to say thank you, Steve Staten, wherever you
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are for all the hard work you've put to get this process rolling.
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I also want to say thank you to the LA church.
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We have a number of elders from the Los Angeles, please stand up so we
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can reckon and deacons and deacons.
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I see deacons.
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Thank you very much.
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Multiple regions here to support and to share in this
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historic moment with you today.
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Two men, Ron Richman and Kenny Barber are being appointed
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shepherds in God's kingdom.
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But wait, there will be more, but not yet.
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Two for today, shepherds in God's flock.
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This is a role that has been incredibly significant.
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Among God's people for thousands of years, for thousands of years, God has
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worked through shepherds, through elders to protect his people, to heal his
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people, to train and teach and prepare his people for the challenges they would
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face in this life so that they could be with the father in the next life.
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And God used shepherds.
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They provided wisdom and spiritual direction for the community of God.
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They were charged with protecting the community of God.
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They were charged with caring for the needs of the people
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in the community of God.
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Because they have such a significant role in His plan for humankind.
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That he was very cautious about who would be a shepherd in God's people.
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Who would be, who can be, an elder in the community of God.
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Paul told Timothy, when it was time to appoint elders in the church,
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which was something entirely new.
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Because previously, they had all been, the community was Jews, and they knew God.
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But now all of a sudden the church had started spread and it was full of
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Gentiles and full of people with different cultures from different languages.
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And there were many more needs.
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And so there was a great need for shepherds of that new community.
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And it was incredibly important that they would be men who could
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deal with a diversity of issues and challenges for all people from
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all backgrounds in all languages.
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from all nations.
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And so Paul told Timothy that they are to be above reproach, faithful to his wife,
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temperate, self controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to
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drunkenness, not violent, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
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He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him.
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And he must do so in a manner worthy.
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of full respect.
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Anyone does not, anyone who does not know how to manage his own family,
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how can he take care of God's church?
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He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall
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into the same judgment as the devil.
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He must also have a good reputation with outsiders so that he will not fall
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into disgrace and into the devil's trap.
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And he told Titus, an elder must be blameless, faithful to his wife
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and a man whose children believe and who are not open to the charge
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of being wild and disobedient.
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Since an overseer manages God's household, he must be blameless, not overbearing, not
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quick tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain.
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Rather, he must be hospitable.
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One who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright,
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wholly, and disciplined.
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He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught so
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that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
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God was preparing a community that would have to deal with all the
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challenges of the Greco-Roman world.
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Yes, a world in major transition, a world is shifting culturally and socially,
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but not just that world for the next 20 centuries and who knows how many more
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centuries to deal with all the world would dish out in the shifts and the
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pools and the tides and the ups and the downs and the challenges and the
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influences that the world would try to exert on God's community to protect them.
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To guide them through the many, many challenges they would face.
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And therefore, he sent Timothy and Titus to finish the work.
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Meaning he had already sent out evangelists to preach the gospel
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and to advance the kingdom.
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But now you have a church and it has to be taken care of.
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And it has to grow and be healthy and thrive and shine so that
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it can be a light to the world.
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And that's not an easy thing.
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Because we are constantly in this spiritual battle.
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We are constantly under attack by Satan.
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And we are, we are hurt by those outside.
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We are hurt by ourselves.
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We hurt ourselves sometimes.
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And there is a great need for godly shepherds to take care of this church.
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And so, these instructions that we were given are the instructions
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we used to choose these men.
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These are the men that you have called on, that you have recognized and
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approved to be appointed as shepherds.
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Now a shepherd and elder is a man, but we know that there's no righteous man
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or ever going to be righteous without a righteous woman helping him along.
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And part of the wisdom of elders is they know that they're not getting
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anywhere without their wives saying, honey, don't you think we should pray?
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Don't you think we should ask directions on how to get there?
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Don't you think we should get some advice
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in their loving, humble, but powerful ways?
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Guiding their husbands, as somebody once said, he may be
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the head, but she's the neck.
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So I would like to ask We're going to recognize the wives of these men first.
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I would like to ask Becky and Karina and Lisa and Julie to come on up on the stage.
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Speaker 2: She's learning.
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What a great day.
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Thank you everyone for coming.
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Um, all the elders and their wives that drove so far, I'm so grateful.
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We feel so supported.
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We feel so encouraged by your prayers.
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And you, you were in the battle with us as we searched.
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For God to reveal who would these, who this couple would be.
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So I'm here to share about Lisa Richmond.
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And
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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I don't know if many of you know our story, but it didn't start off great.
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But it has ended great, right?
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Yes.
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Lisa is a noble woman.
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And I'm so proud of her.
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If you have an opportunity to be her friend, she will love you forever.
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She calls you when you least expect.
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She cries with you.
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She prays with you.
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She encourages her husband.
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She encourages her children, her grandchildren.
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She served her father until his last day.
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She's a great example of what a noble woman is.
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I'm so proud of you.
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I am grateful to have you by my side.
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With their arms up in prayer for our congregation.
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I know you and Ron will do amazing things.
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I know Ron can't do this without you.
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And I love you a lot.
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Speaker 6: In 1 Timothy 3, 11, it's talking about the elders and the
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deacons and it says, In the same way the women are to be worthy of respect,
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not malicious talkers, but temperate, and trustworthy in everything.
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Oh, I'm getting emotional.
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Sorry.
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Um,
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worthy of respect.
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I feel like that's Julie.
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From the moment we've been here, I have seen young children, preteens, teens,
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older women, men, men of all ages.
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Respect Julie.
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She is wise.
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She is hardworking.
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She is kind and gentle.
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Temperate or self controlled.
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I've never talked to Julie.
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She has this gentle, soothing voice.
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She asks all the right questions in all the right ways.
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She tilts her head a little bit, makes it a little softer.
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She is a woman of deep convictions.
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It's not just how she communicates, but it's her life.
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Her life communicates a life of self control.
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You live righteously, you're devoted to God, and following all of His ways.
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Trustworthy in everything, and I mean everything.
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Julie does everything.
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She helps with the children's ministry.
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She just volunteered to serve as a children's ministry coordinator.
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Um, she serves in just about every rotation of children's ministry already.
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She helps with the shepherding classes.
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She helps with mental health classes.
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She helps with grief recovery.
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Um, Julie, you have been So helpful to me personally and to the church.
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It's a little gift for you, but you are definitely worthy of this.
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And I know that together with Kenny, I know he, I know you
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will be of great support to him.
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Speaker: Elders are a sacred role in the church.
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In God's community.
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There's three different words that we run into in scripture that
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describe them in Greek Presbyteros, which is the presbyter, the elder,
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simply put, they're the old guys.
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This isn't their first rodeo.
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They've been around the block a few times.
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It's not just the years, it's the miles.
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And they're the ones that can just nod their head and go,
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yeah, I know why you're mad.
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I get it.
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You know, they're the ones who are able to rise above the angst and
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the fear and the frustration and the anger and the emotionalism that
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we all wrestle with as a community.
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They are the Episcopal, the overseers.
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They oversee things, they just make sure everything's going well.
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It's funny how in, in my family this weekend with everybody there,
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grandkids, kids and Michelle's parents, automatically, we all look to her dad,
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what did, when we have to decide what movie to watch, . And he just makes sure
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he is taking us all out for lunch and.
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And we know him, he's not going to let anybody pay, he's just
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going to pull out the card.
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He's just oversees the family.
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And it's wonderful, and the minute he steps out of the room, everybody looks
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at me, and it falls on my shoulders.
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And it's just the way it is, there's just the Presbyters, the elders, the
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Episcopoi, they're the dads in the church.
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To make sure everybody's taken care of.
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To make sure we don't forget somebody.
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We don't forget a ministry.
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We don't, we don't forget to think about this group and to keep us ministry
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evangelists thinking of everybody and remembering that the church is
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not just the army of God, but it's the family of God and complete with
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grandparents, children, and grandchildren.
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And we want to get everybody to be with God forever.
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That's the mission.
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Amen.
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Church.
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They are the Poyman, the shepherds, the ones who watch over the flock and deal
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with false doctrines and divisive people and errant leaders and errant members.
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And they're the ones that have, that love to take care of the ministry staff, but
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also the courage to challenge ministry staff, to take care of the whole flock.
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They're the caretakers.
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They're the shepherds.
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They watch over the flock and everybody's in it.
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They embody so much of Psalm 23.
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The Lord is my shepherd.
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I lack nothing.
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He makes me lie down in green pastures.
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You ever wonder why it says he makes me lie down?
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He leads me by quiet waters.
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He refreshes my soul and shows me the paths of righteousness for his namesake.
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And even though I walk through the valley of shadow and uncertainty, and I don't
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know where we're meeting next week or what's going on, I fear no evil for you
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are with me and your rod and your staff.
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They protect me.
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You even appoint a table in the presence of my enemies and
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you anoint my head with oils
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and my cup overflows.
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Surely goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life and I
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even I Will dwell in the house of the Lord forever and ever and ever.
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That's the mission.
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Amen.
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That's what shepherds, that's what elders make sure we do.
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Make sure the church does.
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Make sure that we stay on point.
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It was a very, very important role in the early church.
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Working with the evangelists, working with the teachers, working with the
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prophets, working with all the different roles that were advancing and spreading
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the gospel and building up the church and baptizing people to make sure we
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stayed on point and stayed on the path.
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In Ephesians 4 he says, So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the
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evangelists, the pastors, and teachers to equip his people for works of service so
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that the body of Christ may be built up.
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So we can be strong in every one of those roles.
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The apostles, which today are like evangelists who plant churches.
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They're the ones that started new things that spread the gospel out there.
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And there's a whole lot more people in Orange County that
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need to hear the gospel.
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They desperately need it.
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And the prophets Who was willing to preach God's word.
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They're not out trying to figure out what is the world want or what do people
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want or even what is the church want?
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They're in charge with what does God want.
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Because they know better than anybody that the best way to do anything is God's way.
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Always seek the Lord first.
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And everything else will fall in place.
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And the evangelist who spread the good news, not the bad news, the good news.
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Amen.
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Of Jesus Christ, the good news that we can all be forgiven of our sins.
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That doesn't matter how much you blew it.
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You can be forgiven
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and you too can make it.
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And spread that good news and the teachers who helped to train and equip
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and help us understand how do we grow?
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How do we grow in being formed in Christ?
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How do we place the scriptures in our hearts?
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How do we live that out?
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The rest of that Matthew 28, go and make disciples, baptize them in the name of the
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Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and teach them to practice everything he taught us to do.
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And he would be with us forever and ever and ever.
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And lastly, the pastors, that's the elders, the shepherds that would watch
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over us, take care of us and make sure.
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And we know, we know from experience, the church will not
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be healthy without this whole team in play, without the evangelists
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and the elders working together.
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And even some teachers is good for us.
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Keeping us on point and the deacons all doing their part and
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he tells us why we need all this.
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We, so that we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the son of
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God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
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Boy, that's a mouthful.
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What does that mean?
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Attain the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
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It's that promise Jesus made.
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Life to the full.
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Even though he knew this world would be all messed up.
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But you could still have life to the full.
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Not just in the life to come, but in this life.
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And no matter what Satan deals out to us.
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No matter what happens to us in this world.
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And horrible things happen in this world.
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We could still have life to the full.
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And that's why he gave us this team to help us and to train us so that why,
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and that's not even the end of the goal so that we can do works of service for
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the Lord so that we can be the light of the world that sits in darkness so
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that we Can be the pioneer spreading the gospel so that we can help our Children
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and our families and our neighbors and our co workers and our co students so
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that we even with all our faults and weaknesses could bring God's good news
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to everybody and to help everybody.
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And the results, he says, then we will no longer be infants tossed back
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and forth by the waves blown here and there by every wind of teaching
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and by the cunning and craftiness of people and their deceitful scheming.
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We live in a time where there's a lot of tossing back and forth.
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There's a lot of forces out there trying to influence our minds
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and our hearts to divide us, to separate us, to fill us with fear.
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To protect us, he said.
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Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect
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the mature body of him who is the head.
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That is Christ.
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From him, the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting
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ligament, grows and builds itself up in love as each part does its work.
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That's us, guys.
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That's us.
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And shepherds, that's you.
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That's you.
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That's you.
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To help us.
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That's you.
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To help us get there.
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And we need your help.
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We need help as a people.
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What a fantastic vision for the church.
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And yet, today, is a significant step in that direction.
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And the truth is, we need more men and we will have more men who rise up and
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take that charge to lead and to serve.
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And that's coming, but not just men.
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We need more women to rise up and take the charge to serve and to help this church
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be healthy and be a light to the world.
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We need that.
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And God is moving forward and praise God.
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For doing so because he loves us.
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And I know we've, we've struggled with a vision for who and what is Orange County.
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God hasn't struggled.
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He knows exactly who you are and he loves you and cherishes you and can't wait
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for your light to shine brighter still.
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And today's a big step in that process.
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I would like Ron and Kenny to come on up and Marcel.
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Let's appoint these men.
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Come up here, Ron.
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First Ron, then we'll do Kenny.
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Let me tell you about Ron.
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Here's his bio.
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Born in New York City.
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1961.
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He's a Presbyterian.
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He's old.
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One of three children.
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Children.
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His older sister, Betsy Edmonds, is probably here somewhere this morning.
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There she is over there.
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Went to Duke University, where he graduated with a
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BA in biochemistry in 1983.
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I almost said 63, but that would have made him two.
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He then graduated from the University of North Carolina Medical School in 1988.
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He decided to specialize in family practice.
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and went to Akron, Ohio for residency, finishing his training in 1991.
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God was serving and opened a door for him to work as a traveling physician
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for two years, working in six to eight week stints across the country.
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It was during this time that the Lord moved.
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It was during this time that he was invited to church
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in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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For He studied the Bible there, but God had further plans.
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And so his next assignment was here in Los Angeles, where he
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was baptized by Mike Stefan.
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I think Mike's around here somewhere right over there.
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And Henry Kramer in November 1st, 1992.
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The following summer, Ron was asked to move to orange County to help form
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a medical professionals ministry.
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Here in O.
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C.
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Coincidentally, Lisa, then Gardner, moved to Orange County
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as well from the East region.
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Lisa was baptized in 1982 in the Plantation Church in Florida by none
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other than Bruce and Robin Williams.
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One year after her mother, Joyce Dilley, was baptized in the same church.
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Ron and Lisa were soon married in 1994.
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And raised up Evelyn and Andrew here in this church.
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Evelyn married a wonderful disciple, Christian Bolaños, who
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grew up in the San Diego church.
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And they just had their second child.
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First Finn and Mavis, Mavis, Mavis
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Speaker 7: Roe.
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She's back there.
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She is a
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Speaker: man.
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I know Ron actually met Ron when I was leading hope worldwide and
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I was so impressed by Ron's heart.
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Because as much as God blessed him, he was so concerned about the poor and he
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was so concerned about helping people.
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And he was concerned that hope worldwide be run righteously
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and be done the right way.
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And I was very, very impressed by Ron and I felt so blessed later to be able to come
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and work with you here in Orange County.
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And us to be coworkers in God's kingdom here.
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And I'm super proud.
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I know.
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And I hear from so many disciples, how you've impacted them, how you have
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been a rock in the midst of many storms here, and you have been rock solid.
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You are a shepherd of God's people.
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And today we have the privilege to recognize that and appoint you an elder.
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So I have some gifts here.
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First of all, a shepherd's rod.
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So we don't show up.
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A shepherd's rod is to protect and defend God's people.
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As a good shepherd does.
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You are to fight the lion, the wolf, and the bear.
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And they do show up.
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You are to keep the church protected from false doctrines.
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From sin and Satan's attacks from without and from within.
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You are given that charge.
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I also have
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oil from Jerusalem scented with frankincense and myrrh and oil.
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Is representative of the Holy spirit and representative of healing.
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As we just heard in Psalm 23, the Lord anoints us with perfumed oils,
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and I give you this oil to heal and to anoint the Orange County Church.
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And I have another gift.
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This is the shofar.
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This is a shofar.
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We'll have to get Malcolm to come up here and play it.
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The shofar has two major symbolic gestures.
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One, it was used to call God's people into battle.
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And you are to call us to fight the good fight.
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Help us in this battle.
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Number two, it was also used to call God's people to prayer.
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To the times of prayer.
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To get on their knees, to humble themselves before the
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Lord, and to pray to him.
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And you are to call us to prayer, that the church be a house of prayer for the Lord.
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I give you, I give you this charge.
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It's the charge of Peter.
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He wrote, Be a shepherd of God's flock that is under your care.
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And watch over them, not because you must, but because you are willing as God wants
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you to be not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve, not lording it over
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those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock so that when the chief
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shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
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I give you these gifts, and I give you this charge.
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Do you accept?
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I do.
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Speaker 4: I want to introduce to you Kenny Barber.
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Kenny has been married 29 years to Julie.
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They have two daughters, Courtney and Kelsey.
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Kenny was born and raised in the Washington D.
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C.
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metropolitan area, also DMV.
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He did want me to mention that he is younger than Ron.
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Kenny received, Kenny received his bachelor's degree from Townsend
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State University, has been working at, and has a career in the
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informational technology management.
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Kenny has been a Christian for 30 years this month and has spent the last 28
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years here in Southern California.
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Kenny was converted as a Christian in the Baltimore church.
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He has been part of the Baltimore.
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The Metro L.
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A.
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Region and Orange County Ministries in our fellowship.
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Kenny is a staple here in the O.
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C.
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Church.
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And has been a part of our North OC core group leadership group for over, uh,
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for over a decade and currently leads a small group here in North Orange County.
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He has led the chemical recovery and disciples in motion classes and recently
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our shepherding classes as well.
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He enjoys spending time with his family and watching his Washington
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Commanders football team.
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That shows you what kind of man he is.
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To stay loyal to the Washington Commanders.
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That's hard living right there.
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That's a man of faith and perseverance right there.
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Kenny admits that his weakness in kryptonite is his affinity
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for white chocolate raspberry truffle Haagen Dazs ice cream.
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Kenny, you are a man of God.
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That is the very first thing that comes to mind when I think of you.
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That you are a man of God.
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You had, you have a deep faith in God.
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You have a deep faith in the power of Jesus and his ability to change lives
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and the power of Jesus and his word.
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You care for God's people with the sincere love that is seen,
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heard, felt, and experienced by those who come in contact with you.
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You work hard, and you have been faithful to God's people, and
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you are worthy of imitation.
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We are grateful to have you here in Orange County and I am personally
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grateful for our friendship and service together over the last several years.
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Corinne and I respect you and your wife and we have learned so much from
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you and we love and adore your family.
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I am confident that you will serve God, and you will serve his
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church with integrity as an elder.
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I too will give you these three gifts.
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I give you the Shepherd's Rod to protect and defend God's
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people as a good Shepherd does.
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You are to fight the lion, the wolf, and the bear.
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As a shepherd of the family of God, you must protect the church
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from false doctrine and Satan's attacks from within and without.
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I give to you also a vial of olive oil from Jerusalem to anoint
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and to heal the Lord's people.
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The oil also represents the presence of the Holy Spirit, which
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you are to listen to closely.
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I also give to you the shofar of Israel.
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The shofar, as was mentioned earlier,
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was blown to call God's people to battle.
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You are to call God's people to fight the good fight and to wage
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the war in the spiritual battle.
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A shofar was also used to call God's people to prayer.
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You are to make sure that the OC Church is a house of prayer for the Lord.
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I give you now this charge in 1 Peter 5, verse 2.
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Amen.
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Be a shepherd of God's flock that is under your care and watch
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over them, not because you must.
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But because you are willing as God wants you to be not pursuing dishonest
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game, but eager to serve not lording, not lording it over those entrusted to
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you, but being examples to the flock.
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So that when the chief shepherd appears, you will receive the clown of Crown
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of glory that will never fade away.
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Do you accept these gifts and thereby doing so accept this charge?
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Yeah, I do accept
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Speaker 5: this charge.
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Speaker: We have presented these two men, men that you've chosen, men
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that you have approved of men that you have selected to be shepherds
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over this flock, to watch over the Orange County region to be shepherds.
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In the body of elders for the Los Angeles Church of Christ.
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Now, I have a charge for you.
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In Hebrews 12, 17, He tells us, Obey them that have oversight
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over you, and submit yourselves, for they watch over your souls.
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As they that must give account,
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they watch over you.
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that they may do it with joy and not with grief.
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For that would be no advantage for you.
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Do you Orange County region accept this charge to follow these men
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as your overseers and elders?
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And if it is yes, then let the church say
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With God as your witness,
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you have recognized these men as your elders.
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I would like all the evangelists and elders in the room to come up here, come
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up here to lay hands on these men so that we may pray and the wives too, please.
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As we know, it's a team.
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I'm going to do a blessing and then James Willis is going to come up and pray
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over them as we all lay hands on them.
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We didn't get this from Avatar.
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They got it from us.
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Go ahead and put your hands on these fellows here.
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May the God, may God,
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how many elders does it take to organize a group?
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Let us bless these men, bless them with your hearts.
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And with agreement in these words, may God, the father prepare your journey.
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Jesus, the son guide your footsteps, the spirit of life, strengthen your body.
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The three in one watch over you on every road that you may follow.
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May the love of Christ be active in your heart, be heard in your words, be
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seen in your actions and inform your choices today and all the days to come.
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Amen.
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May the Lord protect and bless all that you set your hands to accomplish.
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Watch over your families and guard your heart, mind, soul,
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and body in the name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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Go ahead, James.
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Speaker 8: Amen.
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Speaker: Hands on.
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Speaker 8: I will pray.
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But before I do that, I want to thank all of you for your prayers and support.
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For this region, I don't want to thank the men and women up
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on the stage and support the L.
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A.
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Church and the M.
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L.
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C.
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And the service team have provided for us.
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Steve Staten.
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Thank Robert and Michelle for their willingness to serve and to
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minister and shepherd us as well.
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So, I just want to encourage all of you to continue to pray, continue
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to call on each other to encourage one another because we are family
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and one part of the body suffer.
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We all suffer and I'm grateful for all of you and your faith
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and your commitment to God.
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Let us pray.
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Dear Heavenly Father, we are in awe of you and your many blessings
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that you constantly bestow upon us.
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We're grateful for this day.
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God, we're grateful for all that you have done to help us to see
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what an amazing God you are.
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And Father, we lift you up right now.
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God, as we lift up Ron and Lisa Kenny and Julie to you, Father, we
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thank you so much for the Holy Spirit that called upon them to serve in
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this role as elders, as overseer of your flock here in Orange County.
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God, we pray that you will be with them, strengthen them in their faith,
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strengthen them in their weaknesses, help them, God, to turn to you.
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Like your word says, Jesus, to come to you, all who are weary and
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burdened, for you will give them rest.
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Take your yoke upon them because you are gentle and humble in heart.
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God, I pray that they will be a safe place for the flock to come to.
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God, to shepherd, to encourage, to inspire, to cry, to lift them up to you.
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Because they are yours, God.
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And we are only overseers.
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And we thank you so much.
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For your faithfulness to us, we ask you to please be with us, protect all
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of our hearts, protect their hearts because we know who the real enemy is,
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God, and we cannot lose sight of that.
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God, we have to continue to rely on you and your Holy spirit and
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put on the full armor every day.
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God encouraging one lifting each other up.
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Father, we love you, God.
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And we thank you, Jesus, for this calling that you have given
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these men, not because they must.
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Because they are willing and I pray that you will be with them.
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Be with their wives.
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Please watch over and protect their families, their
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children and grandchildren.
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God, we love you so much.
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We lift all these things up to you, Jesus.
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Please be with us in a powerful way.
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God, we love you.
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It's your name.
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We pray.
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Amen.
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Speaker 7: Amen.
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Speaker: Orange County, I give you your two new elders, Ron Richman, Kenny Barber,
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Speaker 3: Ron Kenny, you see this?
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Have you seen the crowd?
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Look at your people.
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Speaker: And we're going to close out with a few words.
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from their hearts, beginning with Kenny.
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Speaker 5: Amen.
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God is good, right?
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Um, I'm full of emotion.
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I'm here.
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Um, first of all, um, My wife being by my side, I'm seeing the
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wonderful things said about her.
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Seeing my father here, who traveled from Maryland, Washington DC area, the DMV.
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And my uncle, Jimmy as well, my two girls, and it's quite a journey.
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My wife, Just to know that God chose her for me.
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Uh, I knew that from the beginning, uh, in bringing this journey together.
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Uh, she shaped me.
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Um, every argument we've had, every Um, joyful moment.
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Uh, I think God shaped me for this.
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Um, I, I see that, uh, with my, my kids, uh, seeing them growing
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up from child to an adult.
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Um, every argument we may have had or every conflict we've had.
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Just seeing how they've always given me the space to come
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back and change and repent.
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They've always given me that space, uh, so I appreciate them for that.
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Um, you know, uh, just seeing their journeys move me, uh, shape me.
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My daughter here singing, um, moves me as well.
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Um, my father.
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Uh, he's always been my role model.
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Um, his gentleness, uh, his humility, his strength, he's well respected.
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Um, I've always wanted to imitate him and still do.
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Uh, I appreciate him coming here to support me.
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Uh, he, even being humble enough to ask for my Um, scripturally, um,
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um, spiritually as well recently.
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Um, my, my, my uncle has always challenged me in character ever since I was young.
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You know, I grew up pretty, pretty fast.
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Uh, I mean, physically I was, I think in the seventh grade
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I was maybe six foot two.
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And he would challenge me.
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He says, you're, you're, you're tall.
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And I'd slump over.
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He said, you need to act like it and be tall and know you're
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tall and stop slumping over.
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He'd always challenge me on my character.
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I respect them so much, them both, in their walk with God as well.
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Uh, Also, um, seven years ago, uh, Kevin Maynes, he used to lead the church here.
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Um, he, he passed away deceased.
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Uh, he'd always, um, toss it around eldership to me, uh, a lot.
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And it's something I was, didn't want to grasp, you know, I was, I
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was never willing, you know, to that, it was such a high esteem and, uh,
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we had a men's retreat and, uh, he was rushing out the door for lunch.
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And he sees me and he says, Kenny, Eldership, it's yours.
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Literally an hour later, he had a heart attack.
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Uh, and I never saw Kevin again.
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He died.
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His last words to me.
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It's been seven years.
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It was 2017 in January.
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Uh, seven years.
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Uh, seven years.
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Scripturally, it talks about, it's a, it's a magical number for some reason.
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Like it says, how many times do you forgive?
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It says seven, 77.
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So seven years, it's been a journey from that point to a noun, really, um,
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becoming closer to God.
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Uh, I've had kind of, not because of those words, but things that happen in a way,
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just really seeing God and, um, Wanting to, um, have a relationship with him.
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Um, Curiosity set in.
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I wanted to find out more about Jesus.
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More about how he thinks.
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More about what he wants from me.
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What is he telling me.
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Uh, really moved me.
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And it caused me to want to love him more.
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Uh, it talks about, you know, like loving God.
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And, you know, with all your heart and soul and strength.
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And loving your neighbors.
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I really caught on to that.
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Um, and then with curiosity.
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People, I started falling in love with God's people more.
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Uh, and um, and just in love, just getting time with people and finding out,
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um, interesting things about someone.
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I realized it was hard for me to love someone unless I really knew them.
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You know, talk to them and do something about them and love.
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So that's my quest, just to get to know and connect.
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Uh, and I started thriving for that.
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Um, really understanding and I love hearing brokenness.
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You know, too, because there's always opportunity.
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So many men here has shaped my life, and women have shaped my life.
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Just hearing their stories, and so many have so many great stories.
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And that's so important to me.
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Uh, Through the time, grace, seven years and understanding God's grace and just
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how broken I am and how many challenges I've had the whole time spiritually, uh,
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and just how God has Really understand how he healed me, uh, through this.
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Uh, and it does say you have to, you know, we have this, um, I realized that you have
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these, we all have these unlovable parts of us, you know, we can push it away.
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Don't want to, I don't want to address it, but it's like loving
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those unlovable parts of you.
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And when you can do that, as you understand God's grace, and then
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you can love other people fully.
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And you can love the evils you see in them, too, you know, so like it's
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magic to that and this christian this christian walk is fairly simple
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It's not we can make it so complex.
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It's just love god, you know, um, which you love god You start loving yourself
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and love other people and I started really Grasping that it's like i'm gonna love
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god's people You know regard and this and and just my my time together with god.
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I had this quiet time And then, uh, it really hit me with God and
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I'm like, you know what, I like, I feel like I really touching God.
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I love you.
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And it's like, I think this was maybe four years ago.
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I was like, I think you've got me for the rest of my life.
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I mean, really, I think you've got me.
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I think you've got me here.
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I mean, that's, and I, you got me no matter what, because I really,
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and I, and so I think this, this statement here, and I do.
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Um, I do think this appointment is by the Holy Spirit.
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I accept it, um, to protect his people, um, to continue my curiosity with God.
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Uh, it's going to always be in prayer as well, so, you know, I look forward
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to doing this and pray for me.
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I look forward to what God's going to do for us in the church, so thank you.
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Speaker 7: Um, good morning family, uh, you know, Lisa and I are very honored.
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Uh, to be taking on this role of elder and elder's wife, uh, alongside.
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with some great people, Kenny and Julie and James and Vicky.
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So there are some spiritual people on this team, and that's a good thing.
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Um, I was convicted the other day I was talking with James and Vicky.
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I mean, with James and Kenny about something, and we were You know, it was
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a planning thing and whatever, and both of them were like, Well, I was up this
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morning and I was praying about this.
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And I was like, Oh, wow, there's an idea.
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That's a good idea.
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Because I was just thinking about it.
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I was,
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so I was like, I'm in, I'm in good company here.
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This is good for me.
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But family, we've been through a lot.
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And, you know, I was thinking coming here of, of 30 plus years of, of
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meeting Anaheim Hilton, Red Lion, Hyatt, Teller Building, uh, the Freeman
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Forum, uh, we've been everywhere.
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We've been in parks, you know, we've been everywhere.
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And God is not done with us.
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I mean, that's the temptation sometimes is to feel like, oh, well, it was a good run.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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They found us out.
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We're not really that, that good, you know, but you know, I'm always
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encouraged by the scripture of outwardly though we are wasting away inside,
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we are being renewed day by day.
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And I feel that.
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How about you?
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I mean, I feel like I'm wasting away and yet sometimes we get renewed.
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We get refreshed.
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We get filled up.
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And I feel like this is that time that God has set aside for us.
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This year was brutal.
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Right?
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I mean, we all feel beaten up, tired, like, Oh my gosh, I can't
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handle another controversy.
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Right?
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And yet God's like, no, no, no, no, no.
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See, I am doing something new.
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Do you not perceive it?
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And it's, you know, it's hard to hope.
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It's hard.
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Right?
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It's hard to give your heart to, uh, well, maybe, and, and to have a hope.
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And yeah, I feel like that's what God's been saying.
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You know, it's like, forget the past, forget the former things.
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We're moving in a new direction.
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We're not abandoning everything.
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We haven't done everything wrong.
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We did a few things right.
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We have a great family of believers here, brothers and sisters.
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That didn't, that didn't happen by accident.
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We were, we were loving each other all along, you know, sometimes good, sometimes
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bad, but there's some relationships.
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Just walking around the room.
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I mean, seeing John Varghese and like, I remember when he and I were like
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the two most arrogant guys on the basketball team here in Orange County,
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like talking trash to each other.
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I didn't like him.
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He didn't like me, you know, but you know, he could shoot better than me,
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but anyway, I'll give him that much, but he didn't know how to play defense.
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But, uh, and, and, and,
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and Ramon and Maureen moving back and just countless people.
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I mean, one of the things that I don't know about you, but.
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I look forward to heaven, because I feel like finally there will be enough
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time to hang out with everybody.
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Right?
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I mean, at times Lisa and I sit down and we're trying to plan out the week,
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and it's like, there's like 15 people that we want to, or should, or need
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to, or just would love to hang out with and it's like, well, we've only got
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three evenings free and you know, and you're constantly feeling that pressure.
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And I'm sure all of you feel that as well.
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And so heaven's going to be great in that way.
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But along the way, we still have this.
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And I appreciate what was said before life to the full, right?
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I mean, I remember a day when there was nobody I could think
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of to talk to about my life.
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Now, I can't, I feel stressed out because there's too many
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people to talk to about my life.
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And also there's a lot of people that want to talk to me about their lives, you
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know, so that gets overwhelming at times.
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But we need to revel in that, in the fullness that we share as God's people.
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And I was thinking about the scripture that said you are a
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royal priesthood, a holy nation.
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And, uh, so, you know, Kenny and James and I, we may be elders,
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but you are royal priests.
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You're the people of God.
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And, uh, you know, so I think as we move forward, it's important
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for all of us to be thinking where, what's God calling me to?
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What's my ministry?
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Who am I ministering to?
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And not just what am I getting?
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So anyway, Lisa and I are excited to serve.
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We're willing to serve, you know, this job does not come with, uh,
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without, you know, some forbearance.
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You know, I know that it's a hard job.
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But we're willing because we love you.
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I mean, we've been doing and many, many of you have been doing the job.
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You've been shepherding.
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We've all been shepherding in our own ways.
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And so we are happy to take part with the team.
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And I just pray that we can all throw our hearts back in the circle
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and, and just see where God's going to take us in the coming days.
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I like to think of life as chapters.
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Um, you know, Kenny was talking about growing up and everything and, you know,
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as many of you know, I grew up in New York City with a dad who was abusive
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and alcoholic and a mom who was awesome and loving and, and made us all feel
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special, and Betsy and I didn't have a great family start, you know, and yet,
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you know, we hung in there together, my sister Evelyn and Betsy and I, close.
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We love each other.
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We've been there for each other and even brought our parents back where
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we were able to, you know, they were, Oh, my dad opened up about everything.
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We all had forgiveness and we wrote a great last chapter of their lives where
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they were able to be in the family and wrote great chapters with Joyce and, uh,
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with Lisa's dad, Jerry, uh, moving out.
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And even though he was sick in our house for five years, In a hospital
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bed got baptized, you know, that, uh, you know, family, it takes work, you
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know, there's time we don't all get along all the time, but we work at it.
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And so, you know, there's just different chapters as we move along.
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And, um, you know, so I pray that this next chapter for Orange County is just a
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chapter that we are all super proud of.
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Excited by that we can look back and go, Oh, that's where God poured
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out his Holy Spirit among us.
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And we felt refreshed because that's what being close with God is all about.
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It's about having life to the full, feeling the freshness of
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the Holy Spirit in and around us.
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So I pray to be walking that walk with all of us as we write the next chapter
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in Orange County's long history.
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So