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  1. We are wrapping up our sermon series, our Advent sermon series,

  2. The Mess and the Miracle. We are going to be in the Book of Isaiah this morning

  3. looking at a sermon titled Christ Mess, as we've talked about the mess that we

  4. found ourselves all the way back in the beginning of the world, right?

  5. And we've kind of gone through different aspects of that, broken relationships,

  6. the mess within ourselves, the mess within our communities, even our churches,

  7. that Christ has come to give a new and show a new way. But I want to ask,

  8. and if you're new or a guest this morning, I like to ask questions,

  9. do a little interacting. I never know what you're going to say,

  10. but it's always a good time for the most part. What is some of your favorite

  11. aspects of the Christmas season? Now, I'm going to take off the Advent Jesus

  12. Church answers, okay, because I know that's number one for all of you,

  13. so I just don't want you all to say that at the same time. What else?

  14. What else do we like about the Christmas season? Family, okay. Music,

  15. we'll come back to that. Gifts, absolutely, thank you, Joey. Others,

  16. the lights, absolutely. Have you guys all gone to the one in Dyer behind the

  17. Stardust Bowl? Do yourself a favor, get there early, but it is unbelievable.

  18. And the one on Monroe here in Munster, he does a really, really good job as well.

  19. Others, snow, I reject that. Others, peace, like peace of food or candy or just

  20. peace. The world becomes peaceful. Yeah, you all caught that one too, yeah.

  21. The world, we might get to that one in a little bit. Others, makes you think of

  22. Bonquette. That gospel offertory doesn't get an applause, but Bonquette does?

  23. Father, we come to you in this moment. Wow, okay, Bonquette, okay. Not going to

  24. say anything, we're going to move past that one. Other people said others.

  25. Traditions, sure, absolutely, yeah. Parties, absolutely. Cooking, okay, over

  26. here. Music, right, so we've got two music over here. That's really the bridge to

  27. this, we'll get to music in a second. Any others? The candlelight service.

  28. Christmas trees. Your mom's cooking, nobody else's, but your mom's cooking.

  29. And I agree with that, I agree with that. What? Wreaths, absolutely. We could go on

  30. and on, there's so many things, right, almost 12 days of Christmas type thing

  31. that we could do. No one said Christmas movies. That's, yeah, Christmas movies,

  32. right? So once and for all, is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Amen. That was almost

  33. louder than Bonquette, I appreciate that. But Christmas music, we have a couple

  34. of music fans over here. What do you like about the Christmas music? I think that

  35. was Joe and Parker, right? Joe Allen and Parker. Joe Allen, what do you like about

  36. the Christmas music? Joyful, absolutely, yeah, like that offertory was awesome.

  37. What about you? The message, right? Absolutely. And I think it's interesting,

  38. there are so many people that right after, it seems like Halloween, there are

  39. stations on the radio that start playing Christmas music. How many people love

  40. that? How many people hate that? I'm one of them, yeah. But it's funny that we just

  41. kind of, this genre of music comes and plants itself in our lives for maybe it's

  42. a week, maybe it's two weeks, maybe it's a month, maybe it's all of fall, right,

  43. however you want to do it. Does any of you, be honest, really listen to Christmas

  44. music after January 15th? Why? The message is still good, it's still joyful,

  45. don't we need that in our lives every day? Why don't we do that? Christmas

  46. tradition, that our, we have been tradition, I'm going to say Christmas

  47. conditioning, you know, get psychological about it, right, we've been always

  48. conditioned to listen to this music just during this time of year. Some churches

  49. like to get cute and do Christmas in July and they do something in July because

  50. they know it's July and no one's there and you know, they're going to do it

  51. anyway, don't worry we're not going to do that. But we've been conditioned for this

  52. and what's interesting to me is the music. That for a lot of us, you know, when

  53. we look on, when we turn the radio on and we hear rocking out to a way in the

  54. manger. You guys rocking out to that in your cars? No. What songs come to mind

  55. when you think of Christmas music, right, Umbrella of Grace, I don't expect you guys

  56. to all listen to Christian music 24-7, 365, right, meaning you also listen to it

  57. in your sleep. What songs really, when you hear it, you're like, that's the

  58. Christmas season. What? Mariah Carey, absolutely. All I want for Christmas is

  59. Bonquette, apparently. And so what else? What other songs that when they come on

  60. they just hit? Trans-Siberian Orchestra, absolutely. White Christmas, Charlie

  61. Brown's Christmas, yes, all of those, right. But when we think about those

  62. Christmas songs, what was that one? The Last Christmas, that's the song about

  63. Revelation. That's a different one, we're going to get to that in the fall. But

  64. understand that there are aspects of those Christmas songs that just, man,

  65. things just hit. But I guarantee you Mariah Carey wasn't singing about Jesus.

  66. She wasn't, right. I don't know her, but I doubt it. But if we think about all

  67. these Christmas songs that when they come on, we're like, that puts us in the

  68. Christmas mood. Let's go decorate the tree, let's go wrap gifts, let's go do

  69. whatever Christmassy things you do. Rarely do they have to do with Jesus. Yet

  70. this Christmas season should be all about Jesus. Some of you are engaging

  71. that like, okay, Pastor Downer, that's still, I like to celebrate. See, caught

  72. that, not donor, but downer. Thank you for that. Yeah, the rest of you, catch up. But

  73. have nothing to do with Jesus. That they have everything to do with getting gifts,

  74. sometimes giving gifts. Don't know too many songs about actually giving gifts.

  75. But there's a couple, Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree, All I Want for Christmas,

  76. What Christmas Means to Me. And there's one song, What Christmas Means to Me. I'm

  77. just gonna pull a little bit of the lyrics out. Candles burning low, lots of

  78. mistletoe, lots of snow and ice everywhere we go, choir singing carols

  79. right outside my door. It's hard not to get wrapped up in that. I hear those

  80. lyrics, I just wanna, I don't know, a hot cup of hot chocolate and a fire and a

  81. Christmas tree and watching whatever Christmas movies, some of ours in the

  82. Holland owner house, No Judgment is Home Alone. And understanding that it's just

  83. this season. And this season means something to us. Yet we're very good at

  84. forgetting about this season, probably about January 15th. Because we're gonna

  85. turn into something else. Or that's where it starts to get really cold and we start

  86. to really not like this season because of the bitter cold that we get in the

  87. Chicagoland area. But the meaning of Christmas, right, we like to put in these

  88. bright lights, we like to put in the stars, we like to put even in Jesus. But

  89. let me contend that the original idea of Christmas, the original meaning of Jesus

  90. coming into the world isn't about lights, it isn't necessarily even about kind of

  91. those fuzzy feelings we get. It's actually a lot darker. So let's think

  92. about what Christmas would look like if there were no lights. If there were no

  93. Christmas carols, right, you didn't have the story of Scrooge finding his way and

  94. all of these things. We didn't have, you know, all those Christmas movies that we

  95. love. What if all of that went away? What if there were no carols? What if

  96. Christmas was just like any other day? How would we really take that as a

  97. culture? I think a lot of the toy companies would really be upset, right,

  98. because we're taking probably a lot of revenue out because if we think about it,

  99. it is a time during this Christmas season, we're okay with spending a lot of

  100. money. What if you were asked to spend a lot of that money in June? Would anybody

  101. like sign me up? No, we've gotten it to the point where we just do it all kind of

  102. in that one part of the year. But one of the things we have to pull out and we

  103. have to engage this morning is that Christmas isn't always about that. That

  104. there's actually a darker side to Christmas and that is the mess that the

  105. Israelites found themselves and the world found themselves when Jesus was

  106. actually born. Now I'm not up here to debate what time of the year the ancient

  107. calendars or anything like that, right. Don't get lost in that. Nothing there

  108. Selvitic that you need to worry about. But understand that Jesus came as a

  109. prophecy that wasn't all that joyous as far as what the people were going

  110. through. That the people were looking towards something. They were looking for

  111. someone to do many different things and there were many different camps as to

  112. what they thought the Messiah, the anointed one was going to do. They saw

  113. the Messiah either as prophet, priest or king. And the thing is Jesus comes to

  114. represent all of that. So let's jump into the book of Isaiah chapter 9. And so one

    Isaiah 9 chapter mention

  115. of the things we have to see is that we have in Isaiah 9 we have, you know what, I

  116. think I actually gave the wrong texts. Yeah, I'm gonna start in 9. I think we can

  117. take this one off. Yeah, go back really quick. Go to that one. Nope, that's right.

  118. I'm wrong. Okay. But there were, but there will be no gloom for her who was an

  119. anguish. In the former time he brought into contempt in the land of Zebulun and

  120. the land of Naphtal, but in the latter times he has made glorious the way of

  121. the sea, the land beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the nations. So that's kind of

  122. the intro if you're here, but here's really where I want to go. The people who

  123. walked in darkness have seen a great light. Those who dwelt in the land of

  124. dry darkness, on them a light has shown. You have multiplied the nations. You have

  125. increased its joy. They rejoice before you as with joy at the harvest, as they

  126. are glad when they divide the spoils. So there we have this understanding of

  127. where we were. There's where the world was, right? The Israelites were there.

  128. They were walking in darkness. They have this understanding that something was

  129. coming, but they were not getting it. Hundreds of years since the last

  130. prophecy, right, that we see about Bethlehem in Micah and understand that

  131. there is a darkness. There is a void. There is this thing that is coming,

  132. something talked about through ages and ages and generations and generations.

  133. That there is a darkness. And the funny thing about darkness is if you walk in

  134. darkness long enough, you get used to it. How many of you have ever been

  135. splunking? Yes, that's a real word, right? And splunking is when you go down into a

  136. cave and you walk through the caves. And you can get to the point where there's

  137. almost 0% natural light, light being able to reflect on anything so we can see it.

  138. That's how light works, I think. But you get into the darkness long enough, the

  139. darkness becomes the norm. Your body actually starts to normalize the

  140. darkness. Which is why if you've ever been in like a dark room for so long and

  141. then you go out into the light, you can't just go out and be like, oh, this is

  142. great. No, it's almost oppressive, right, how the light is. That the people, the

  143. Israelites, they got used to the darkness. The darkness of the understanding that

  144. something was coming and what happened. All around them, corruption started to

  145. build. The corruption of the Romans, right, the corruption of the temple, of

  146. the Jewish people, of the priests and the Levites, the Sadducees. That this

  147. understanding that the darkness became the norm to me only emphasizes the light

  148. and the hope we have in Christmas. The light and the hope we have in the Christ

  149. child. The people who have walked in the darkness all of a sudden now are going to

  150. see a great light. Let me ask a question. We know how the baby comes. We know that

  151. story. We sing it. It's called, The Way in the Manger. We get it. What if the Christ

  152. child came in the courts of Herod? What if this child was born in the glory of

  153. the temple? I wonder if it would mean the same thing. That there's such a economic

  154. juxtaposition that I know us in 2023, almost 2024, can probably resonate with.

  155. That if right now, tomorrow, we hear on the news that this baby was born and is

  156. sent to be the Messiah overall, I guarantee, I'm going to go out on a limb

  157. and say 99% of us wouldn't believe it. What makes that very different from when

  158. it actually happened? It doesn't. That human skepticism and human cynicism has

  159. been around since the fall of man. We see that from the beginning of Genesis 3.

  160. That Jesus is coming in such a way that he is going to overturn. He's going to

  161. shine a light in all of the areas that we have been comfortable with the

  162. darkness. And what is that darkness? That darkness could be defined as your own

  163. idolatry. And to me, that's one of the most impactful things that Christmas does

  164. is it shines a light on what I've been worshiping throughout the year. I'm going

  165. to let that hang for a minute. Because as we center on the Christ, as we center on

  166. the light of the world tomorrow, hopefully all of you come back and we

  167. light the Christ candle. We read, we already read it in the Gospel of John,

  168. that light came, the Word made flesh, dwelt among us. There was an intentional

  169. act of the Savior of the world coming down to be with his people, to point to

  170. the way of everlasting life. But even John talks about the world saw him but

  171. didn't receive him, didn't listen, rejected. The stone that the builders

  172. rejected became the cornerstone. It is so easy for us as a church to think high

  173. and lofty, go, yeah, they didn't recognize him at all. They rejected what he had to

  174. say. Let's be honest. I have a feeling we would be in a very similar place. Why?

  175. Because we at times love the darkness. At times we love the ability to hide. We

  176. love the ability to think that we are keeping things from other people. I

  177. guarantee you in this room today there are secrets. I can make it super awkward

  178. and ask all of you to stand up and give your deep dark secret and I guarantee no

  179. one comes back next week. Because that would be super awkward. Because at times

  180. we enjoy it. You can see it in the pureness of a child, right? Children that

  181. learn what lying is seemingly just kind of out of thin air and, you know, some of

  182. you may have had kids that are really good at it. Hopefully you have kids that

  183. were not, right? And as parents it's a lot easier when your kid's bad at lying,

  184. right, because it's a lot easier to figure it out. But this idea of darkness,

  185. this idea of walking in darkness, notice it didn't say the darkness came and they

  186. stopped and they waited. That story would be very, very different. If the Israelites

  187. saw, okay, we're just gonna sit and wait. We're gonna wait until he comes. But they

  188. got used to it. They walked in it. They lived in it and the darkness became a

  189. part of who they were. God's chosen people, but they weren't so perfect. They

  190. weren't always the light. They had darkness within them. And so we see this

  191. hope. We see this light described for us as to what it actually means. Those who

  192. have dwelt in the land of deep darkness, on them the light is shown. The light

  193. guides, the light protects, but the light also uncovers and exposes. I think about

  194. in those movies where someone's in the interrogation room, right, or maybe some

  195. of you use this as your parenting tactics when you're sitting down trying

  196. to get the truth. You put a heat lamp up and you shine it in the kids face. Where

  197. were you on this day? Maybe you don't. But I think about it in the movies that for

  198. some reason that light shone and all of a sudden the truth, they tell the truth.

  199. Right, you see it in the movies. All of a sudden the detective shines the light and

  200. now they just, they just, they plead all of their guilt. Like what is that

  201. light? That the light not only shines but the light exposes. And we see as we

  202. continue that you have multiplied the nation. You have increased their joy. What

  203. I love about this is the light is reminding them of how he has been at

  204. work even amidst the darkness. So think about the last year of your life. I'll

  205. think about mine. In those pits that you may have walked through where you felt

  206. God very vacant. You felt God very estranged almost. Understanding that it's

  207. never God that walks away. It's our understanding of God and our, and what we

  208. perceive as the presence of God in our lives. That we understand that that area

  209. of darkness when the light comes it exposes that. It exposes maybe how far

  210. we have walked away. But when the light shines it also shows where God has been

  211. and will continue to be working. But I think we miss that. I think we miss when

  212. the Lord exposes something and it's sometimes we feel like we're exposed and

  213. we have to, we have to seek forgiveness and it's all about what we've done

  214. wrong. Sometimes the light is shown to show where God has been working. Though he

  215. is the light of the world, right, that is Jesus. We know in our lives he is working

  216. even in those valleys of life and I know for a fact some of you are going through

  217. those. And one of the greatest perspectives we can get as believers is

  218. in those valleys in the non-Christmas times if you will. We have the

  219. perspective that God is still at work. That's a little bit of that light

  220. shining. That that light of Christmas is coming in every day of the year. But the

  221. lights come to do something. It's caused to increase our joy as with the joy of

  222. the hardest. It's caused us to be glad and as we continue go on to verse 4. For

  223. the yoke of his burden and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor,

  224. you have broken as on the day of Midian. In the darkness there has been work. That

  225. work is being done. That the Holy Spirit, the kingdom of God, is still at work. The

  226. kingdom of God is active every day. It's not just Christmas, right, it's not just

  227. the week of Easter. Yes though that's when we see a lot of churches filled is

  228. during those two holidays. We need to recognize that the light is shining

  229. always and what is the light doing? Bringing justice, bringing mercy, bringing

  230. us to a place of humility, of understanding that the world is not about

  231. us. For the yoke of the burden, the staff of the shoulder, the rod of the oppressor,

  232. you have broken. For every boot of the tampering warrior in a battle tumult and

  233. every garden rolled in blood will be burned as fuel of the fire. That is a

  234. declaration my friends, a declaration that Christmas means something. That the

  235. light of Christmas is there to remind us of where he's also been at work. But that

  236. first Christmas, right, if you're following the story of the Bible, right, I

  237. think about it when you remember those Indiana Jones movies when he's traveling

  238. you see the plane hit certain cities and then go off and then hit a certain city

  239. and go off. And remember there's only four of them, that fourth one we reject.

  240. You think about the story of the believer, the story of Christ, the story

  241. of God's people is coming to a point where now the trajectory is going to be

  242. different. The trajectory is going to mean something far more. The trajectory

  243. is now salvation in human form. Salvation fully God, fully man coming down to show

  244. us the way. Sometimes I wish we could get a glimpse personally, intentionally of

  245. what that first Christmas was. But let me ask, the guy that went to the market

  246. every other day, did he not go to the market after Jesus was born? No he did.

  247. Did the the war still happen that we're going to happen? They did. Did the temple

  248. still have all the good, the bad, and the ugly in it? They did. It's not like the

  249. minute that that child is born and breathed his first breath that everything

  250. got better. Because Jesus was pointing to something. He was pointing to reveal

  251. himself. We see it throughout scriptures. It's almost like this angst as he gets

  252. older, right, we see that with the wedding at Cana. A woman he says to his mom, my

  253. time has not yet come. There is a timing to all of this that in God's perfect

  254. timing is meeting with each and every one of you to change the trajectory of

  255. your life. I had the honor of sitting with a friend and a friend's family this

  256. week as a loved one changed the trajectory of her life. That she was

  257. going one way and recognized Christ as Messiah and now anew and now her life is

  258. different. Her life is changed. The trajectory of her life completely turned

  259. upside down. Well, pastor, as you talk about it this way, then why didn't he come as a

  260. king? Why didn't he come as a conquering hero or some kind of, as we talked about

  261. a couple weeks ago, just kind of like a like I don't know like Superman or some

  262. kind of superhero? Why didn't he come in like we read about him at in the book of

  263. Revelation? Because that wasn't his plan. Because that was not what was prophesied.

  264. Because in my opinion, the gospel according to Pastor Jim, he came in the

  265. purest form. Because if he would have come as an adult, there would have been

  266. political ties to that. There would have been financial ties to that. Ecclesiastical

  267. ties to that because there were already people doing that. There were already

  268. little M Messiahs going, I am the one to come. I am the one to come. Guess what? No

  269. they weren't. Oh, that's crazy. We don't have any of that today. Yeah, we do. People

  270. that think they can read this in such a way that they know when the world is

  271. gonna end and they get a bunch of people to follow them and they get a bunch of

  272. money. He decides to come in such a way that I think not only turns heads, makes

  273. us scratch our head, make us curious and wonder, makes us maybe even disappointed.

  274. For unto us a child is born, to us the Son is given. Wow. For unto us a child is

  275. born. There's a collective understanding that Jesus is born for all of us. I

  276. remember when all three of my, not both, I have three, when all three boys were

  277. born, right, we didn't say this, but it was a gift for Carrie and I, for our

  278. family, that our family expanded. At no time did I think, oh my church family

  279. expanded. We were down in Crown Point at first year. See, like, oh the church family

  280. expanded. Oh, this is great. No, it was very personal. That's not this. No, it's

  281. personal. It's for the world. For unto us, now the Israelites read it as them, but

  282. as we know now with Jesus that he was coming to bring salvation. For unto us a

  283. child is born, a son is now being given to us. And I love how Isaiah puts this,

  284. right, one of the weeping prophets, right, this understanding of speaking into a

  285. system that will want to kill it, to kill him and it. The government shall be upon

  286. his shoulders. That on the shoulders of a crying baby, the government will be

  287. radically changed. The life we know now will not be the life that will be

  288. because of this baby. And the government will be on his shoulders. So when

  289. anything has to do with the government, it's all about the title, right? It's all

  290. about the title. I have a couple friends, you know, we know Cindy Dornell, her

  291. husband was elected as a state senator. Our good friend Mike, who comes to church

  292. every once in a while, he's a state, he's a house of representatives. Or you have

  293. the president or the president-elect. It's all about these titles. It's all

  294. about, you know, these titles should mean something, right? Back in the day, people

  295. cared if you had the word reverend before your name. Now, not so much. But

  296. understand that we have titles. We love that. Have you ever been corrected by a

  297. doctor? Hi, this is my friend Steve. No, that's Dr. Steve. There's a reason. It's

  298. been earned that we have these things. We enjoy these things in the world. Look at

  299. the corporate ladder climb, right? If you're trying to get that next job, it's

  300. because it's a title. A higher title sometimes means a pay raise. All of those

  301. things until you get to the top. CEO, CFO, president of the organization, whatever it

  302. is. I love how Isaiah speaks right to us today. The government will be upon his

  303. shoulders and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor. Why? Because we need

  304. counsel. That people are lost and they need an opportunity to speak out the

  305. crazy and for us to make sense and perspective of our lives. He shall be

  306. called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God. I don't know. I think that's kind of the

  307. trump card, isn't it? But in a world that recognized other gods in a far more

  308. thematic and maybe more artistic way than we do now. I mean, I think we still

  309. have those. Technology, money, fame, all of those things, those are God's, lower

  310. case G. Almighty God, everlasting Father, that he is the Father to the fatherless.

  311. Everlasting, that we have this understanding that his love and this

  312. power and authority is never going to end and this is him as a baby. He hasn't

  313. even grown up and talked yet. We'll get there. Prince of Peace. Counselor, God,

  314. Father, Prince, Prophet, Priest, and King. That is the Christ child. That's why it

  315. makes a difference. So he has this title, right? In the world today, we earn that.

  316. Rich, you were a superintendent of a school system, right, for how many years?

  317. Eight. Superintendent, that's a big deal, right? That's probably the highest you can

  318. get in an educational system. And understanding that he earned that. Someone

  319. recognized that he was given that title. That was something derived, given to him.

  320. This is what he was born with. He was born with these titles. He was born with

  321. this identity. He was born with this understanding that this is what

  322. he would be named. This is how he would be distinguished from everybody else.

  323. But then he was going to do something. Of the increase of the government and the

  324. peace, there will be no end. On the throne of David and over his kingdom, to

  325. establish it and uphold it with justice and righteousness. From this time forth

  326. and forevermore, the zeal of the Lord of hosts will do this. Nowhere in there does

  327. it say, with him, all of my days will be good days. With him, all of my wishes will

  328. be grand. He's not a genie. He's not an ATM. He is the prince of peace. That he

  329. was going to come and change everything. That nothing was going to stay the same

  330. because it couldn't. Because when the light comes into the world, a light that

  331. darkness cannot snuff out, that means something. As I land the plane this

  332. Christmas Eve, what's your January 16 going to look like? What's your February

  333. 1 going to look like? Are you going to think about the light? Are you going to

  334. think about, you know, Almighty God, the wonderful counselor, the prince of peace?

  335. Because the one thing we know about the darkness, it's not dumb. Many times I

  336. think Satan gives us these weeks. He gives the church these weeks. Oh, believe

  337. me, he's still very active. But maybe, just maybe, he goes, all right, we'll give

  338. him till the middle of January because they're going to forget about all this.

  339. All these feelings, all these emotions, all these traditions, all of these family

  340. times, these gifts, the singing, the candles, all of this light, all of this

  341. joy, right, or this hope and love and joy and peace. All of this is on the front of

  342. our mind. But maybe Satan's going, ah, just wait. Let's give him this time. We'll

  343. hit him with the darkness again in January. Doesn't work that way, friends.

  344. Isaiah tells us it's never going to work that way again. That darkness can never

  345. overcome the light. God's coming into your mess. God is coming into my mess to

  346. shine a light, to expose what needs to be exposed, to fulfill what needs to be

  347. fulfilled, to guide what needs to be guided, to console what needs to be

  348. consoled, to have an authority of an almighty God in it, the everlasting Father

  349. to maybe restore those relationships. And finally, for all of us, and I raise my

  350. hand first and foremost, will be the battle for our anxiety. That the Prince

  351. of Peace will come. Paul will further understand this peace that passes our

  352. understanding. And I think that peace is one of the greatest gifts that we get at

  353. Christmas. But guess what? We're going to get it on January 26th, December 26th,

  354. December 27th, December 28th, and so on until we're with peace in the flesh. That

  355. is something we get. That is something that is given to us in this Christ child.

  356. Tomorrow we're going to look at it in another different way. But sit in that

  357. today, friends. Enjoy the traditions. Enjoy the holidays. There is nothing

  358. wrong with it. But understand that that counsel and that might, that everlasting

  359. love and relationship and that peace is for us, is for the church every day of our

  360. lives. Let's pray.