Moving on to College | Trinity Talks Podcast

Hello everyone and welcome to a very special episode of Trinity Talks in the summer time

here and it's special because I have got three youngish guests who are all going to be going

through a very important time, a time of change this summer as they are going to be moving from

high school into the next stage of life. So I'd like to welcome Hannah and Sean and Sophia

and thank you for taking time out of your summer to join me here for this conversation.

So thank you and welcome. Yeah, so you have all graduated high school. You all passed?

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, no, you all graduated and you've all been accepted into university. So you're going

to be looking like your days and your next I guess school year is going to look quite different

from what you've been used to. So I'd love to talk to you a little bit about that change

in your life and about what you're looking forward to and even about how faith is going to play into

that. So before we get started, I just love to hear from you what you are going to miss or what

you think you're going to miss about your high school years. Okay, I think I'm really going to

miss some of my teachers. Yeah, definitely. That was the hardest thing is I goodbye to and then

the friends, of course. Yeah, that'll be different. Okay. All right. Honestly, of all the things,

yes, is it going to sound really sad, but it's probably how close I live to where my high school

is now. Fair. Going to University of Toronto, right? I'm going to be commuting for like an hour

and a half, which is kind of brutal. Okay. So that's a thing. But also like friends and teachers

for sure. Diversity of subjects too, because now it's like we're kind of pigeonholing, right?

That's right. It's more specific, which is a great segue into the game we're going to play in just

a few minutes. For me, definitely the friends. But also I'd say just like being a high schooler

and having less responsibility. Yes. A little more free. Yes. Yeah. That's for sure. You're

right. There's going to be a lot more expectations, I think on you next year. But I think it'll,

knowing you guys, it's going to be great for you. But Sean, you mentioned that there were a lot of

different subjects you took in high school. And you may have thought you were done with all of that,

but little did you know you were going to be on Trinity Talks at Trinity Streets, Phil. And you

have a notebook in front of you. Okay. And we're going to play a little game before we get into

more of our questions. And there are eight pages inside there. And I have eight questions for

you relating to different subjects. Oh, no. This is what I love about being the host. Relating to

different subjects you would have taken and you did say you graduated. So let's put that knowledge

to the test. Now, before you get nervous, I don't expect you to know really any of the answers to

these questions. All of these questions are numbers based. And I'm going to see who gets

closest to the number. It's not like math questions. Okay, good. So I've got my subjects here in front

of me. I'm just going to shuffle them for no real reason other than for the visual effect.

And I've got, hmm, I'm going to pull out my history question. So all of you would have had to take

history if you aren't familiar with the Ontario curriculum, you would have taken it in grade 10

and perhaps later on as well. And my history question is this and it's from, I even have my

sources written down. Oh, the website Canada dot CA. So we can't argue with that. In what year

was Canada discovered? Oh, Lord. I know. Guys, guys, I'm going to tell you, I don't know,

didn't know the answer to this. Like discovered is in like John Cabot. Oh, okay. Oh, that we're

going back. We're going back. We're going back. And I am grateful for the website to remind me

that it was John Cabot. So in fact, if you're listening into this conversation, you'll be

getting a history lesson as well. Okay. Take a seat. All right. And just discovered just,

we're not, we're not judging. We're not judging here on Trinity Talks. This is all for fun.

And certainly I'm not sure many graduates would know the answer to that. So this is no,

this is not going to revoke your acceptance to university by any means. All right.

You have to skip this episode. This is bad. All right. Our next subject is French.

Who are you? We're moving on. We're moving on because this is a, this is a,

did anybody take French all four years? I did not. Oh, okay. I be kid over here did we did not.

No. So who took it more than one year? Okay. Who did more than two years? Okay. All right. So

this question is from a website called Boussou. What? Okay. Sorry. Nice. I can't, I can't vouch

for the credibility of that website. But how many accents are there in written French? Oh,

in written French, right? Not like the, like, I will say that written French,

in English, we don't really have many or I might be speaking out of turn any at all written accents.

However, in French, okay, there are some written accents. I'm going to take a safety. You don't

need to name them. You just need to write the number. Draw these out. You can draw them out.

There will be bonus points for anyone who can name them. No, not really. But I must say that for

the winner of this Trinity Talks game, I have a Tim Horton's gift card for a copy to get you fueled

up for your university days. Okay. The non, here, maybe the camera can show this, the non

appropriate name for phys ed, just gym class. Nice. Got a gym question for you. And this gym

question is really quite unrelated to anything you would have done in phys ed class. But that is,

what is the speed of the world record for the 100 meter men's? How many seconds in seconds?

How are we supposed to know any of this? This is crazy. It is crazy. But you know what that's

what you get here. So it's in seconds. And what I would actually encourage you to do is you can

round to the nearest two decimal places. Two decimal places. Specific. Oh, God. Okay. That's

right. So this is just in case you're very close, nearest. What was this 100 meter race? 100 meters.

100 meters? You same bolt. Okay. So fast. We're thinking fast. Okay. Right.

Now here, who here ever did track and field? Yeah. When I was like middle school. Yeah,

same. Okay. High school something different, man. No, those kids are intense. They puke on

the field and stuff. I'm like, no, this is another level. Okay. Oh my goodness. Let's go.

Let's go with this subject here. English, which we all had to take English. Yes. And we're all

speaking it now. So no getting out of this one. So the maybe one of the most famous authors and

playwrights in English history was who Shakespeare? Excellent. So how many plays did Shakespeare write?

Oh, this is from a website called the Folter Shakespeare Library. How many plays did Shakespeare

write? Let me count. Oh my gosh, guys. Crazy. Yeah. Okay. So some of you actually are counting

the plays in your head, which is, yeah, there's gotta be like just impressive that you can do that.

You're definitely ready for university. He has so many other little ones. So no, just like how

many? I'm just taking a safe guess. Yeah, just is okay. I would say this in the number of plays.

Okay. That's as much as I can share with you. We're not going to need to name them. So in grade

nine, you would have taken geography. Absolutely. I'm pretty sure from my recollection, this question

was not even part of the curriculum, but how many official countries are in the world? And this is

according to the website worldometer. Yeah, okay. I feel like it is so real. Talking about test

anxiety. Yeah, we're coming. It's all coming out. Okay. Official registered like officially. Yeah.

Yes. Registered countries. Not the unregistered ones. Not the unregistered ones. Correct.

We were talking about registered countries only. All right. I'm going to ask you guys,

would you prefer to do the math question or the science question? Are we going to do both? Yes.

Just do math first. Get the words to over. Okay. And this is going to be somewhat timed,

because I'm sure some of you could come up with it. If you took long enough, this is our only

actual math question. Is it a times two question? 61,728. What was the number? 61,728 times two.

Okay. I'm just going to talk over you while you guys are thinking and scribbling

over there. I see actually you're doing your calculations. You're all regretting coming on

the show today. I know that, but it is just a times two. We could have made it much more complicated.

And as you're coming up with that answer, I'm going to be looking at my, I'm just like,

he's scratching stuff out already. Oh, period. The one. Right. All right. Square root of 44.

No, I'm just joking. All right. Science. Just moving on guys. Science. This science question

is actually biology based. Okay. And according to BBC Wildlife Magazine, how many different types

of species of insects are there in the world? And I will accept to the nearest million. I

thought you're going to say decimal point. And I was like, there's decimal points. You could say,

you could use a decimal point as well, but I will be kind enough to say to the nearest million.

How many of us are there right now? There's a million. There's four of us in this room.

No, I mean like of humans. I forget how many. There's one humankind. That's one. I'm not saying

species. I'm saying how many of us. Who's the quiz master now? Okay. In millions. Okay. So those

are actually, you should have seven questions. And my last question for you is as you are all

university bound. How many publicly assisted, publicly funded universities are there in Ontario?

Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Publicly funded. Like, what does that mean? Well, there are some private

universities and colleges out there. But the ones that are funded, they get receive funding. So

U of T, Gualt, Windsor. There are some colleges, especially in Ontario that are privately owned

and operated that do not receive funding from. So colleges and universities? We're just talking

universities. Canada. Okay. Oh no, you wanted colleges? Well, no, what I'm saying is because then

because then have to come back next week and we'll do the college edition. Oh boy. Okay. I'm

going to guess. Okay. So it's locked in. The wheels are turning. I love this. And we are having a

lot of fun here. I'm excited. I'll be the official scorekeeper. If you get it, if you were the

winner, then you will get a point. If two people tie, then you will each get a point for that round.

So number, what was our first question here? Our first question was, I believe the year history,

history, the history question. That's right. So let's just show our answers to everybody.

Okay, but they can't even fortunately, some of your kind of read that. Okay. I already know this

is. I see 1812 for Sophia. I see 1787. Yes, I love the I made up the last

1803 for Hannah. Well, back in 1497, Canada was. Oh, so it's close. So Canada was actually

discovered the land. So Sean, off by only 300 years. If there's any consolation, you were all in

the same ballpark. So there you go. That's good. Wonderful. So our next question was the French

question. Yeah. Correct. All right. How many different accents are there in written French?

Like I see three for Sophia, four for Sean, five with the correct answer was Hannah.

Look at your, guys. What did you, I knew I was missing one. No, I was missing one. So it's

the accent, a goo accent, graph. The, I believe I miss the dot dot dot dot dot. Well, there's a

C D in Easter conflicts. Oh, I know. So we've got, there we go. Perfect. Four years of French down

the drain guys. Absolutely. Yeah. That's like embarrassing for you. It is. It is. That's all

right. That's all right. Our next question was which one? Were we doing Shakespeare? No, that

was like, I think Jim. Oh, the gym class. Okay. How many seconds is this world record?

Not 9.23 for Sophia. I can't. 15.03 and 11 plus. I weigh over. So you were so close. 9.58.

Whoa. 9.58 seconds. That's impressive. That's, that we overshot. We did. We did. That would have

been the world record maybe 200 years ago. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it was 200 years ago.

The Olympics are on right now. Maybe we could find that. Oh yeah. That's right. Okay. So far,

we are tied. This is a nail biter. Okay. Our next question was Shakespeare, right? Yes. Yeah.

Okay. How many plays does Shakespeare write? I definitely underestimated. I overestimated.

I definitely underestimated. Okay. So Hannah thinks she underestimated with 24.

Sean thinks he overestimated with 50. And Sophia is our Shakespeare expert. She said 35 and he

wrote 38. Hey. That's crazy. That's good. But you were again, you were all in the same, you know,

you know, and said hundreds. Yeah. So we're good. I don't think I would have gotten any of these

right to be honest. Our next question must have been the geography question. How many countries

in the world? Yeah. According to worldometer. Okay. So unless you were looking at worldometer

before this, you probably don't know the answer. 172, 180, 160. You were all so close within the

very close range. The answer was 195. So Sean takes another one for me. Okay. So we are at

two, two and one. Now math, our multiplication question. Hannah, what did you come up with?

It's, it's this one. It's this one. One, two. One, two, three, four, five, six.

I don't know. One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. And I'm not sure what that is there, Sean.

It's one, one, two, three, four, five, six. Oh yeah. Yes. Yes. One, two, three, four, five.

Okay. So it was a comma at the wrong spot. So it was one, two, three, four, five, six. I'm sorry,

Hannah. You put a comma after the 12. I put a comma. She put a comma. So because you don't,

that's all right, actually. You don't need to have a comma. I remember that from grade school.

You got hurt guys. But if you put the comma in the wrong place, you don't. Unless you're writing

in English, if you're writing the number like in a paragraph, apparently you have to have that.

But in math, they're like, no, don't do it. It's weird. Oh, that's bad. Really? Okay. I did know

that. So two questions left. Um, science or wait, what was first? Oh yeah. A number of insects,

species of insects. Species, right? Yeah. Species, not the number. So Hannah says 11.3 million.

That was so specific. 13 million. She said to decimal point. I wanted to do decimal point.

This is 23 million. Wow. Hey guys, we only have 5.5 million insects. Oh. So Hannah,

you got the point for that one. Last but not least, how many universities do we have in Ontario?

Did you say eight? No way. Eight? Okay. I had 15 was my first and then four and then eight.

18. Oh, means over here. 19. Oh my goodness. I didn't write down the answer there. It was,

oh my goodness. I don't have the answer in front of me. I know it was more than that. Can we come

back and I will find that answer? Goodness gracious. Look at the tension. Nailbiter. This is a nail

biter. I'm going to come back at the end and just tell you what that is. It's on my phone. All right.

So stay tuned to the end of Trinity Talks. What a way to keep our audience engaged.

It's all intentional. Okay. We're going to come back to that at the end. So I'm wondering,

oh, I'm a little excited. What is next you're going to look for, like for you?

Jean, you referenced U of T, but I'm wondering where is everyone going to be going

to school and what program are you going into? Okay. I'm going to go to Guelph and I'm going to

be going into human kinetics. Wow. Wonderful. Exciting. Yeah. So Guelph. And are you going to

be living in residence or in a house? Yes. I did get into residence luckily. Yes. Perfect.

Love it. Okay. And what about you, Jean? Yeah. Like I said, I'm going to University of Toronto.

I'm going to mess up the pronunciation because every time I say my major, it's bad,

but I'm hoping to do a double major in political science and international relations. There we

are. Relations. Perfect. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Very good. And I'm also going to Guelph. Nice. Child

studies. Cool. I did not get into residence, but I found a house I'm going to be leasing with

and my friends. Oh, that's exciting. All right. Well, very different for all of you. And I love

that. What sort of inspired you to make this decision? Did anyone help you in the process?

Is it just a passion? Just curious, how does someone your age decide where to go?

This was a long decision for me. And there are many tiers involved too. I'm going to tell you

that it was very stressful. Really? It was a big pros and cons list. Yeah. Giant pros and cons list

actually. And then I think what it came down to it was like the feels of the school. Like when I

went, I visited most of them. So yeah. Yeah. The vibe I like. Yeah. You can see yourself being there.

Yeah. Exactly. Very nice. Maybe Sophie, I'm going to go to you next because you're also going to

go to 12. For me, I talked to a lot of people about it, but I have some friends that go to 12.

So they obviously know a lot about it. And I worked at camp obviously in the kids program.

And that like really cemented that I wanted to work with kids. Love it. Very good. It's a great

program. And what would you, Sean? Well, my whole university thing was very odd because I literally

applied to three places because I was like, I'm not looking at all of these universities. I'm not

doing it. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not looking at the, what is it? It's the, here, OUAC, like the

fees or whatever. I was just like, nah, I was like, there's no reason. That's right. I think you can

apply to three and then there's more to apply to. And then I got into, I got into Carlton University

for their journalism. And that was like a big, ooh, maybe for me. Right. But then I was like, oh,

that's a lot to go live on res and to live in Ottawa. It's like, I don't know. I don't know if I

want to go there. But then I got into UTM, which is the University of Toronto campus right here

in Mississauga. And I was like, oh, it's close. I'm like, it's literally a five minute bus ride

from my house. I was like, that's really convenient. But then I went there and I was like, I don't really

like the energy. It's like, it was kind of, right? It fell a little flat to you. Yeah. I,

originally like UTM was like the choice because I was like, well, it's super close. And I mean,

like, I don't have to uproot my job or anything else to go. So that was good. But then as soon as

I got the acceptance letter from St. George, I was like, dude, I have to go. It was like literally

immediate. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. All right. You mentioned that you applied to three

universities. And while the camera was on you, I actually had a chance to look at the number of

universities. So we're going to go to that now because it's weighing on my heart. How many

universities did you say, Hannah? 18? For context, how would I know? Look at how low this is.

That's eight. That's eight. That's eight. How would I know? I applied to more than eight universities.

And 19 for Sophia. I, yeah. Guys, the answer was 23. Sophia. Nice. Did you apply to all? So Sophia's

our winner. So Sophia, you are going to be the recipient of a gift card. Oh, yes. Exactly. So

congratulations. All right. Sorry, I couldn't let that one sit. But going back to the questions,

what are you most looking forward to about your next stage of life?

Definitely not doing my own laundry. That's something I'm not looking forward to.

I guess, well, that's a hard question. I mean, going to university in general, I'm excited to

like get more depth to the field. But as far as like living alone, I mean, like eating what I want,

staying up late, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yep. Decisions you don't usually get to make

all the time on your own here. What about you, Sean? This is kind of a nerdy answer. So like,

bear with me here. But I'm very excited for the access to libraries at U of T. I'm actually like,

that's going to be so cool. Right. Which, like I said, it's nerdy, guys. It's nerdy. But like,

there's so much out there too. But also like, particularly because of the stuff that I'm interested

in, all like a lot of the U of T professors I'm going to have are really cool. And like, I've

looked into a few of them. It's like, ooh, I'm really excited to hang out with those people.

But also like, just the program that I'm in and going into the courses that I'm going into minus

economics, because it sucks. I don't want to take it. If anyone knows an economics tutor,

please tell me because it's going to be bad. But like, I'm really excited for those sorts of courses

and being with people that are interested in the same stuff. Yes. Oh, real. Right. Yeah. Meeting

friends that are going on the same trajectory to absolutely. Absolutely. I'm definitely looking

forward to the independence and like, yeah, getting a chance to experience so many new things,

like living alone. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's and the course content being more like curated to my

interests. I love that. I love that. So I heard from Hannah that laundry is something that you're

not looking forward to. Sean is economics. And maybe Sophia, you have something. Is there any

other fears that you're holding right now about going off to university? Oh, I mean, this is a

fear for second year, but cooking. I'm notoriously really bad in a kitchen. Okay. Like really bad.

So I've been joking that I'm going to be the super senior on a meal plan. Luckily,

luckily, Guelph has good food. So worse comes to worse. I think I won't starve. Okay. Okay.

For sure. Honestly, economics is part of it. Of course. That's like the big one. Right. I took,

I took a course for non specialist. So I won't have to do so much math, which is good, I guess.

Yes. But another thing is just all of my courses are kind of later. So I don't have a lot of morning

courses, at least right now. I have a lot of them past noon, which I'm not exactly hyped for being in

Toronto at night and then having to come back on transit and all that I did. I'm skipping like

rush hour, which is good. But I mean, it's still nerve wracking. Yes. Nighttime vibes. Yeah,

for sure. Different, very different. I'm not looking forward to like moving away from my family.

I'm definitely going to miss seeing them like every day all day. But also in terms of courses,

for my program, bio is recommended in grade 12, but I did not take it. Okay. And I think there is a

course like there's genetics that I think might, it might be rough for me, but okay. So science

isn't necessarily your favorite. No. Okay. Do you have FaceTime for your family? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

You can see them, I'm sure. Just not always in the same way. Yeah, it's close. I'll come back

often. That's true. That's true. Now, I mean, all three of you are members of the church here,

and we see your faces almost every week, I would say. Sean, I mean, you're not letting

necessarily leaving the city here, but I'm just wondering throughout your high school years,

we're just going to change gears a little bit in the questions, but have you noticed that your

faith, sort of from being a child to a young adult has developed over your high school years?

And in any ways, has the church itself helped in that? Just wondering sort of how you've seen

yourself develop over your high school years in your faith? Yeah, I definitely think it's been

more like independence, because like as a kid, you're kind of like dragged to church with your

parents. Yes. Like, yeah. Yes, I have three myself. But definitely when you get older, it's like a

choice to come, I think. Like, especially for like senior high, like coming to like youth group,

that was always like a choice because family's not coming for that. It's always obviously just

for the kids. So I think that's been different, like having it more like personally led than like

like forced upon you, which has been an easier way to grow, I'd say. Right. Yeah. Okay, thank you.

Yeah. For sure. Like personally, throughout high school, I found it really hard to like, and as much

as I've been like on stage doing all that stuff, that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm like,

spiritually developing. Sorry to break it to you guys, but like it's been hard over the past four

years. Yeah, right. Like just with all the time that's been taken from school and everything else,

it's just like having time to actually kind of feel it spiritually is hard. Like I know for the

past little bit, not to like say talk about worship again, but I mean, for those of you who don't

know Sean, yeah. So like being there for the like last, I think it was for the last two years of

high school, I was kind of struggling with being on the worship team and not really feeling it a

lot. Like I was kind of like, Oh, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm performing and I'm not performing.

That's not the point. And I'm like, I don't want to, I don't want to fall into that. So I think with

everything going on in high school, I kind of was able to move past it a bit because it's easy.

It's easy to have faith when you don't have a lot going on, you know, or it's easy to praise God

when you have the time, like it's way easier. So I guess over like the time of high school with

all the responsibilities and everything going on and like, you don't get to just, Oh, I'm going to

go home and do nothing and whatever, or have, you know, something else going on, or my Sunday is

open so I can go to church. Like sometimes it just isn't right. Right. Yeah. So like, I think

in terms of spiritual development, I've definitely grown in that I'm not, it's not passive. Like it

was when, when we're younger, right? Yeah. It's not, it wasn't like a priority. But then once all of

the busyness came in, it's like, Oh, I actually have to make a note in my calendar of that, Oh,

or I have to go in make time for it or go to the young adults thing, which is tonight, by the way,

I just wanted to plug it for Jordan. Because if he could be here. But yeah, that's a good point.

So it has to become more intentional is what I'm hearing. Yeah, thank you. I think for me,

a big thing that helped me like develop in my faith through at high school was the like,

as high school went on, I made more friends that were like, had similar beliefs as me. So like,

it takes a while to find your people sometimes. But definitely by the end of grade 12, I've like

found a good crew at my school who had like a shared faith with me and we could talk about it

together. And then I also found some communities in Mississauga, like I go to obviously the youth

group here, but then I also go to a youth group. It's like a citywide youth group. And that really

helped me in my faith. Okay, so getting involved with other people who are of a similar faith to

you has really been helpful. So being with people and building those relationships. I think all of

those are like a lot of wisdom just came out of you three. So but now we're looking forward and

we're going to be moving away from high school years. And I'm wondering how you maybe hope in

terms of your own development in terms of growing your character or your faith, or even learning

and socially, emotionally, what are your hopes for next year? That's a heavy question. So feel

free just to take a minute to think about that. I think it goes back to like independence for me.

Yes. Because as much as I'd like to say like I'm an independent person, I think you forget how

much you do rely on your parents, like how much it'd be like late nights. Can you can look over

this paper? Can you do this? So definitely learning how to do that by myself, especially like

troubleshooting things, right? Because that's when you most need that kind of support. So like

making friends and finding your community, like what Sophia said, like building that for yourself,

that would be my hope. Excellent. Excellent. Well, in terms of hopes, honestly, just hope I come out

of it not feeling like I kind of wasted time because I feel like over like, like that's kind of the

guilt that I felt in high school a little bit was that it was like, oh, I wasted all this time where

I could have been spiritually developing. And then like every so often, it'll be like, oh, I'm kind of

like numb to it. And then there's just like one sermon or one, you know, thing that I hear. And

I'm like, oh, no, and it just all takes and it's like, oh, all the guilt of like, I should have been,

I should have been paying attention to it. Like I hope I don't fall into that. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Guilt can be a real feeling. Yeah. At the same time, recognizing it, learning from it and moving

on through it. It's a great idea. Yeah. I think I really am hoping to grow like Hannah said,

an independence. Yes. And also like, yeah, just maybe socially, because one thing I regretted

from high school is I didn't really get that involved at the beginning in like clubs and sports

teams. And I'm, yeah, I'm hoping to make the most of my university experience. And I think that

definitely starts with like putting myself out there, kind of right at the beginning.

Yeah. Right. Okay. Very exciting. Now, just a side note, when I think about that, were you in

high school during COVID? Yeah. Yeah. So maybe you can give yourself a little grace for that. You're

stuck on a computer for a while. So first of all, just congratulations to you guys for, you know,

moving through that, because that was a challenging time for everyone in that situation.

Now, my next question is about going into university as a Christian. And how do you think

that is going to impact your experience? And maybe it's not going to, or maybe you're just open to

seeing it, but how do you think it's going to impact your experience? Does anyone have any thoughts on

that? That is a hard one. I can, I can start this one. I think that going to university,

particularly because it's like, it's always like the trademark time for young people where it's

always like, Oh, suddenly your world opens up and like you're seeing all these other perspectives,

like we live in a pretty diverse area. Like there's a lot of different people that we come in contact

with, right? Yes. It's not like, Oh, we used to live in like a suburb, like suburbia in like

Ohio or something where like there's not, I don't know, I don't know anything about Ohio. It just

came to my head. So you know, like we're not going from, you know, hometown kind of kind of energy

to university. It's I don't think it's going to be that big of a shift shift. But I mean, it is

definitely something that I'm thinking about where I wonder how my faith will be shifted from that.

I don't think that it's going to change, but I think it might help to strengthen some of those

things. Because I mean, you only really think about the hard questions when someone is asking

you the hard questions about your faith. Like, I know that I've seen a couple of videos of like

people going on like university campuses, and like people asking different questions about faith

and all of that sort of thing. And I'm wondering how over the next four years talking to people

about it and like learning from other groups and like what their perspective is on X, Y and Z,

right, might shift all of that. Absolutely. I love that. I think that it might be a bit of a

challenge for me. I'm like, I'm not that like motivated. I'd say I'm more like lazy type of

person. And so if I don't have someone like kind of pushing me to like go to church or like, like,

you know, we're saying like prayers at dinner and stuff, I think it'll be hard to stay dedicated.

Especially just because there's so much new stuff and you have to like establish

that routine like by yourself. Right. And I think just even articulating that and saying that out

loud is a great first step. Sophia. So that's wonderful. It's also so valid, by the way. That's

like me 100%. Yes, I think you're probably in good company there. I think for me, it'll definitely

be a big test of like values. Because going off of like what Sean says, when you're surrounded by

like a lot of like like minded people, I guess you don't really notice the difference between like

your values and other people's values, but like going into a new community setting where people

might challenge those values and people are like, you have a lot of free will and free choice,

right? You can do whatever you want. So the idea of like figuring out what I truly like believe in

and what values all hold strong will be interesting. And I think good for me. Yeah.

Absolutely. Be part of the growing up process. Yeah. For sure. So as

we wrap up, is there anything that we at the church or maybe even just people that you encounter in

general, do you think could help to support you as you move towards, you know, your next chapter?

Anything? I mean, sharing your wisdom. I'm always down for like some old university stories. And I

know some people are like, they might, it might not be the same, but I think at its core, the whole

like shift of university and the independence is the same. So I'm always down for any tips,

shower shoes, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Wear your shower shoes, guys. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay.

Is there anything else or should we leave it at shower shoes? No, I think, I think the wisdom

is a big part of it, but also like emotionally, because I feel like when we get to like these

points in our lives, everyone's kind of trying to figure out, oh, here's the to do list of things

to do so that you don't like screw it up or so you don't, it's always focused on like the

things to do and not necessarily the emotional side of it. Right. Like I know that everyone's

like, oh, this is just how like growing up is so you'll figure it out rather than like, okay,

how are you feeling about this? Like, is this, you know, good? Because I mean, going to university,

you're going to any post-secondary thing, whether it's like trades or college or whatever you're

doing, it's a big shift and like change is hard. Yeah. We as a species suck at change pretty much

like across the board. So even though it's like, you know, it's part of growing up and it's, you

know, kind of on the trajectory and no, I don't want to go to high school for the rest of my life.

That's right. Yeah. It's still a lot. Right. So maybe tending more to the emotional side too

might be good. Like maybe asking like, hey, you want to let go for coffee or whatever? Do you want

to, you know, just to talk about it on, you know, on our terms too, right? Absolutely. Yeah. That's

great. I think for me, it's just really comforting to know that like, I have Trinity back here,

you know, I can come back on weekends and go to church. It's a really like, it's a really great

community to have there. And I'm sure we'll all stay going to Trinity next year. Right. Yeah. Just

to know that you can reconnect. It's good. Right. This, although you're moving on, you haven't lost

what you already have. Yeah. So that's great. And you certainly do have the support of this

church behind you. And we're looking forward to just seeing how your next couple of years go.

And thank you for taking the time and your time away from the cookies and coffee over there

to join me. And Sophia, we're going to make sure we get you that gift certificate.

And I just want to say thank you again to all three of you for imparting your wisdom

and sharing your feelings about this next step in congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.