Finding Purpose and Community | Trinity Talks Podcast

Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode

of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla and this week

is National Volunteer Week here in Canada. And

as a church, as a non -profit organization, volunteers

are so critical to the work that we do here at

Trinity. And so I'm really happy to be sitting

down with a few of our volunteers and just talk

about what it is that... excite them about this

work and the impact that they are having. So

thank you for joining me, folks. You're welcome.

Great to be here. Thank you. So maybe we'll start

with some introductions. Maybe you can just say

your name and what are some of the volunteer

roles you've been doing here and how long you've

been doing that work. Very happy to be here.

My name is Bridgette and I have been volunteering

to be my second year volunteering table with

Alpha. It's a series of weekly sessions exploring

Christian faith. And it starts on April the 29th.

So I'm very excited for that. And as it's been

five months now, I've been volunteering at the

welcome desk. Okay. Yeah. Great. So you don't

need to keep your hand on the mic there. Okay,

and yeah, what about you? So my name is Liz and

I've been at Trinity for, along with my husband

Al, for 26 years now. And so in that time, you

know, I've volunteered in lots of different ministries

and just sort of explored all the various opportunities.

We started sort of in the music ministry. But

currently what I'm doing is I'm volunteering

as a member of the tech team, so running the

slides on Sundays, which initially terrified

me. I'm also involved in, I'm on the prayer chain

and on the meal train as well and the So many

things. Oh my gosh. And I'm on the Chancellor

Guild. Okay, yes. And that's it for now. That's

all I'm doing. That's all? I'm a slacker. Good,

and what about yourself? My name is Theo Fitch.

After Liz, you know, my Liz is very short. That's

okay. I've been actually Came back to 30. So

been volunteering in the welcome team for the

last two years And also help out whenever we

can on the events team So in by helping out on

this Thursday doing the cleaning up after the

committee meal So but I'm on the roster for the

welcome team. Okay. Okay, great so My first question

is just what motivated you to want to volunteer.

Why why did you get into this? Maybe we'll start

here Liz. Yeah, it's um, well what I I I find

is or have found is that volunteering is a great

way to get connected to people. You know especially

if you're coming into the church new and you

don't really know anybody and I don't know I'm

an extrovert so I like to get involved and have

my hands and things and I'm more comfortable

you know if I go to a party I'm like let me help

you serve the hors d 'oeuvres or whatever you

know and so I just sort of looked at what are

the opportunities for me to get involved and

to meet people. And then as I did different things,

I made great friends and I developed new skills

that I never thought I would be able to do. And

also, Just to be to serve right and to be to

bless people and you know come alongside people

in their journeys There you know, there's so

many great reasons to get involved. Yeah What

about for you Co? So one thing actually not just

a good deed, right? But it's also big aspect

of the Christian discipleship, right? We talked

about discipleship and for me it started off

I think is more from a sense of gratitude because

I felt when someone to a church or you go somewhere

else, they reach out to you and touch you in

many ways, right? just more than saying hello.

You know, what can I do for you? How can I help

you? That kind of helps me to set up. And like

Liz said, I'm also extrovert. I was in sales

for over 30 years. So I was love reaching people

and connecting with people. So that's part of

my way of giving back as well, right? And if

you look at the scriptures in scripture, right?

When Christians volunteer, they follow the footsteps

of Christ. who dedicated his life serving others,

and he set an example of selflessness, right?

And in Matthew 20, 28, Jesus declares, the Son

of Man did not come to be served, but to serve

and to give his life as a ransom for many, you

know? And maybe I can quote another scripture,

another verse is from 1 Peter 4 .10, it says,

Each has received a gift. You see this one another

as good stewards of God's very grace. So good.

Yeah. Yeah. So the faith is a really important

part of that motivation. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

And what about for you? Totally. I love that

scripture. Absolutely. For me, volunteering as

serving others is a way of me loving God. You

know, God has been so good to me. And it's a

way of worship and just being a disciple. And

again, to Scripture, just paying that forward.

And I remember back in, well, around Christmas

time, I really felt the Christ in Christmas.

And I thought to myself, okay, happy birthday,

baby Jesus. I need to reach out to Sally. And

I did. And I said, Sally, I'm ready to take this

to another level. I'm ready to volunteer. And

what are your thoughts about me being on the

welcome desk? Oh, Bridget, that's great, and

the whole bed. And so here I am. And it's a way

of such gratitude for all that Christ has done

for me and how I see how Christ has moved in

other people's lives. And it's just, it's so

fulfilling. Yeah. Oh, that's so good. Yeah. Yeah.

It's interesting to hear like the different angles

that you're each coming to it from, right? Because

there is that sense of connecting to our community,

connecting to our church family. But then, yeah,

also following the way of Jesus and seeing this

as something that really is a part of your particular

faith journey, right? And Trinity has been so

good to me. It's a family and it's a way of building

this church and supporting it. For sure. Yeah,

I mean, I know I think about for myself in this

church community, but in other churches that

I've been part of, it's that stepping into volunteering.

that like has then allows me to feel actually

really connected to the community. Right? Because

it's easy to walk in the door on Sunday morning

and then walk out an hour later. But if you're

there to volunteer, you get to know people in

a different way. It's a sense of belonging. For

sure. And I think too, you know, as you volunteer.

there's a depth of caring. Yes. Part of that,

right? And you just sort of grow, go deeper in

God and, you know, connecting with each other

and you care, you know, you care about this community,

you know, as you care through volunteering in

lots of different ways. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

So what do you enjoy the most about volunteering?

Maybe we'll start with you, Thea. What do you

like the most? We already touched on, we just

talked about sense of belonging, right? So one

of the things that I didn't expect, which is

a great blessing, is that within the family,

we have another family, within the Trinity family,

we have another family, which is a volunteer

family. I made some good friends already, right?

So that's in itself a big blessing. We volunteers,

we help each other, a little bit more stronger

fellowship, because you obviously learn from

each other more. So not only are you getting

the blessing from serving as a volunteer but

it's also the fellowship shared among the volunteers

as well. We help each other, we cover for each

other and things like that. I can call upon another

volunteer if I can't make a particular time or

something. The other thing is, It's more meaningful

about part of someone's first impression, me

being on the welcome team. First impression of

the church, right? Helping and creating that

atmosphere. Let them exhale and relax and feel

like you belong. And make that impression for

them. And when you see even last Sunday, I met

somebody new, introduced him to Sally. And that's

in itself, sorry not last Sunday. previous son

and then she came back. So to see people are

coming back and being part of your family, that's

a blessing and you see the fruitfulness happening

there, right? Yeah, and I think about like when

we talk to folks who are new to Trinity or who

are coming for the first time, one of the things

that they'll often say is that they feel very

warmly welcomed, right? And so you get to be

a really important part of that, which is cool.

Exactly. building deep, meaningful relationships.

It's like one body, many parts, all working together.

For sure. What about for you? What do you enjoy

the most about volunteering? You summed it up

exactly. Definitely. Just again, building deep,

meaningful relationships, knowing where you are

in your journey and seeing someone come in for

the first time and just being of... discipleship

for them, like being there for them. And I just

hand it over to God. It's like, you know, I believe

the Holy Spirit just works through us and volunteer,

and just leave it to, leave it to God. Definitely.

For sure. And what about for you, Liz? So, I

would say, I think, you know, when I look back

at the different volunteer roles that I've had,

I look at them all through a lens of hospitality.

I just realize over the years how important hospitality

is to me. And I define it really broadly. It's

not just about having people over for dinner

or whatever, but it's welcoming people, helping

people to feel comfortable in our space, in the

service, in whatever way. And that really blesses

me. And I think about working on the chancel

guild, which is the group of people who prepare

all the elements for communion and look after

the chalices and wash the red wine stains out

of the linen, all of that stuff behind the scene.

But I think about, well, that work is like I'm

setting the Lord's Table for the whole congregation

to participate in. And I think, and I love that

Trinity is really oriented toward hospitality.

And the broader that we can sort of... You know

define that and implement that that you know

the better in my view Yeah, for sure. I felt

that with the community meal. I know that I volunteered

Yeah, yeah community mill the same way. Yeah,

it's beautiful. Just all coming together. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely Yeah, yeah for sure So the theme

for National Volunteer Week here in Canada this

year is volunteers make waves. Which I think

is just a really fun kind of imagery. Yeah, but

I want you to think about in your own life, I'm

sure that there have been volunteers who have

made waves in your life. Volunteers who have

impacted you in some way. So maybe we can just...

Do a little bit of storytelling here. Um, I'm

looking at her. So, um, there's been many, but

I'll start with Liz. I remember coming to the

first, was it the lunch, the welcome lunch on

your first Sunday on my first Sunday. And I think

I was a little terrified. I was out of sorts

and Liz was just, she was love and she was welcoming.

And then from there it was, uh, Jane and Wally,

who now I'm in there. and I went to Alpha and

Sally and Cathy at the welcome desk. I remember

going to the welcome desk the first Sunday I

came here and I'm like, so what's this all about?

No, seriously, right? All of that. And just,

when you say making waves, the analogy when I

read that, it was like making waves, I was lost

at sea and these waves brought me to shore. And

this is through the help of the volunteers. And

I am so grateful. And everyone, there's more

names to mention, but they were so instrumental.

Thank you for the how much time, how many time,

Liz, but thank you. No, it's true. She was there

and just supportive, very supportive. That's

so good. Yeah. Any other stories, Theo, for you?

One, I'd like to come back to you about Trinity

as well. But before that, when I was growing

up as a young Christian boy in a Christian family

in Sri Lanka, went to church. We are one of 10

siblings, so we all go to church. So I'm just

one number. I'm number seven in the 10, right?

But that is the Sunday school teacher and the

pastor, he makes sure that he address you by

name. He didn't say son of Reggie and Madara,

my parents, you know, and address you by name

and make sure that You are cared for. You are

treated as an individual. That meant a lot. Those

are the things that always stood on me. I've

been to many churches in Canada before as well,

but when you came to Trinidad, at the Welcome

Dex, they treated me like a person, not another

person in the crowd. part of the life group.

So Cathy and Alan already included us in the

life group. Right. And so that's an extension

of, you know, going from the welcome team to

part of the life group and then now become volunteers

as well. So it's just that extra touch that someone

gives you from coming back to Trinity that now

I'm making the ripple effect to other people,

right? Yeah. Able to do the same thing. Yeah.

So making waves and bringing you back to shore.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the waves, you know,

I think about the variety of waves that there

are. There can be huge waves, you know, or they

could be gentle ripples or you could be sitting

on the shore of a lake and it's just, you know,

lapping against your feet. But, you know, I love

the ripple effect idea, right? And people don't

realize, I think, how one little tiny action

or a word or a hug The impact of that is going

forward in that person's life. I've experienced

that in my own life. Just this idea of the water

too, which is like something that nourishes us,

the water of life. Yeah, but it's those tiniest

ripple that you know you can make and I mean

you don't have to do a big dramatic thing Yeah,

it's just it can be just a simple little act.

It can be remembering someone's name. You're

right So yeah important, you know people understand

that they we we know, you know who they are and

What you know a bit of their story or you know,

whatever whatever, you know that may be but it's

it's a nourishing thing. You know, the water

is life -giving, right? And that's, yeah, it's

a beautiful thing. Yeah, and I think about too,

the like, compounded ripple effects, right? Like,

cause I can think about, okay, here's one volunteer

in my life who started something and then for

whatever reason that season sort of came to an

end, but there was another volunteer and another

moment you like picked that up, right? And so

if I, yeah, another wave. So like, if I think

about, you know, my faith journey is like, defined

by volunteers, really. Like from the moment that

I was a kid in the nursery, where there were

nursery volunteers, to being a teenager and having

volunteers willing to wrestle with the hard questions

with me. And all throughout my life, it's been

volunteers who have helped bring me to this point

that I'm at. Yeah. Are there any specific volunteers

who stand out in your life, Liz? Well, yeah,

I mean, so many. Like, you know, so many, you

know, and I apologize to everyone. But I mean,

I remember like coming to Trinity and Just you

know the people who were involved in music ministry

because that was what Al and I were doing in

our previous church You know and and you know

the other volunteers who were involved they sort

of just embraced us and brought us in and the

leaders at the time just gave us opportunities

and trusted us to do stuff as well and that helps

just grow your experience and build your confidence

and you take those lessons on board so that you

can ripple them out to other people. I think

it's really... You know, I've been encouraged

by so many volunteers in so many different ways.

And it's, you know, it's had an eternal impact,

I would say. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So in

this this theme of making waves, we've talked

about, you know, the people who have made the

waves in our lives. But how do you see yourselves

making waves in other people's lives? Sathya,

you already sort of talked about this woman who

came to church one time and then you were able

to see her come back again. I think that's one

example. Do you have other examples? Mainly examples

like either meeting people for the first time

and then take them to the welcome team and make

sure they're registered or there are people who's

been here But they know about the life group.

So again, take them to make a connection with

the right people for the life group. And they

may have specific questions. And so you direct

them to appropriate people. So just being as

an extra resourceful person for them, right?

And sometimes it's embarrassing because I've

come across somebody who's been coming here for

weeks. And because I happen to ask a question,

they say, oh, yeah, I've been coming here. They

know about all what we provide. So then I was

able to take her to the welcome dinner and make

sure you talk to somebody here and there might

be things that you might be interested. So those

are the things with the scope of the church.

Right. Yeah. And also I'm just thinking about

the newcomers now, trying to connect them with

the life groups. You know, there's always one

life group. They may have more room for it so

you can include them in there. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What about for you? I'm going. totally

on faith here. I always pray, God, make me an

instrument of your will. So when I volunteer,

it's thy will be done. And I operate from a place

of love and that love I want to shine through.

I wanna be a light. So whatever, however that

shows up, I have faith that I can be of service.

to whatever comes my way. But I find a really

great tool, being on the Welcome Test, is the

app. The app is really great in terms of people

really getting connected, because there's so

much going on and then, you know, volunteering

and from all the different events and things

of that nature. So that is a great tool that

I love to. to put out there for people, I find

that very useful. Yeah, and then you don't even

know from there what the impact is, right? Absolutely,

and they might leave and just, you know, a lot

of, and it was interesting because last, it was

last Sunday, a lot of people didn't know about

this church app. Right. And then they're, you

know, and then they opened it up and said, oh

my goodness, okay, who knows what they do when

they go home and they go through it. So I think

that's, again, in itself, very instrumental in

you know, directing people. And again, the Holy

Spirit will guide them accordingly as well. Yeah,

yeah. So just for a bit of context, we have this

church center app that then allows us to check

into church if you're joining online or to find

out about events that are coming up or life groups

that you might want to join or giving, all kinds

of things. Yes, absolutely. So yeah, pointing

them to this one tool then ripples out in all

of these ways and lets them get connected. Definitely.

I think I've signed, I don't know, maybe about

six or seven people just this past week, Sunday.

So that's good to know. Yeah, for sure. It's

a really good tool. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

What about for you, Liz, how do you see yourself

making waves? Well, I mean, I don't know. I think

that I love the idea of being wave makers, like

individually and collectively. And I don't know

where at the end of the ripple what... what really

happens, but I think for me, and all of us probably,

it's just to be faithful every day, step by step

in your day, praying and just seeking God's direction.

And I really, I try I try really hard, and this

is hard for me sometimes, to not get ahead of

God. To think maybe that my ideas are better.

But I'm working on that. But yeah, I think just

sort of continuing to be a light bearer, as Bridget

said, and to be a joyful, you know, and and to,

you know, root myself in Christ and the joy and

the peace that he brings me and trust that God

will use that in some way. Yeah. In however and

whoever. Yeah. Yeah. He's in charge. Yeah, absolutely.

Let me just add, adding another sentence. Yeah.

If I can be helpful and helping someone to be

part of the Trinity family, that's a way that

worth making. If they come back and say, this

is why I belong, this is why I want to come home,

that's the end of the day, that's a big way we're

making. And it's one person at a time. And then

they will move on. I like what you said about,

I'm just trusting that God is going to do something.

And knowing we don't always get to see the end,

but we can trust that I'm faithful in my part

and God will be faithful in... Bringing something

through through this impact. Yeah, knowing it's

the knowing that he will bring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

for sure So you've all served in different ways

in a sort of hospitality role or a welcome role

here at Trinity Which I think is just really

important to this ministry So I'm wondering how

have you seen people? Get connected like do you

have any examples of folks who have really sort

of come through this welcome ministry? Well?

Alpha, okay. Yeah alpha is You have to do alpha

It's all questions there's they're all welcomed

I was mentioning earlier to Wally that I was

a cherry picker in the Bible You know, and I

had so many questions and those questions I think

were in the way of me moving forward with my

faith. So I think Alpha, Alpha is incredible.

Oh my goodness, yes. Yeah. And it is a space

of... of welcome, both for those questions, of

welcome for sharing meals together. Family, and

you just become friends because you're going

through this together, you know? And I'm in their

life group now, and you know, I'm on a text basis

with the people that I was in alpha with, and

we go for coffees, and it's community. It just,

it flows, like the water, it just flows. Yeah,

yeah, for sure. Yeah. And the other stories or

thoughts on how, you know, hospitality and welcome

is such an important part of what we're doing

here and your volunteer ministry. I mean, I guess

it goes back to this thing that I said earlier

about, you know, the newcomers who come in often

will say, I can't come into this building without

being welcomed. Right. And it is that sense of

warmth that creates something really special

and that is not possible, I think, without volunteers,

without people to really stand in the gap and

do that work. And I would add that, you know,

for newcomers especially, I mean, when they walk

in the door, we don't know their stories. We

don't know where they're coming from, what they're

dealing with or anything. And so it's really

important to have an open attitude and an open

mind and just like... wherever you're at, whatever

you're going through, you are welcome here, you

know, and let's walk together as, you know, we

explore different things. That's, I don't know,

that's like, that hospitality, you can sort of

define it as, you know, welcoming people, you

know, who are coming in and loving and caring

for them until they feel like they're in a family.

It's from the outside to the inside. And that's

key. I mean, I could frame everything we do as

an act of hospitality in one way or the other.

And just following the example of Jesus in so

many ways. Do you find sometimes that, I know

from my experience coming here, you feel, felt

like I was broken or not worthy or not good enough.

the welcoming here was there was just so much

love and so much caring and it was such a safe

place where there was no judgment and that's

that's what I feel here yeah that's great that's

good yeah yeah that's what I feel yeah I can

say that that's huge for sure yeah yeah and I

too I think back to what What you said earlier,

Theo, that being on a volunteer team feels like

a family within a family sometimes, right? And

that's another element of hospitality. It's not

just the hospitality that our volunteers extend

to our newcomers. It's the hospitality of volunteers

extending to one another. Of each other, yeah.

The other thing about the newcomers, right? Anybody

coming through the doors or even somebody who

hasn't been to charity coming back again. They're

coming back because in their search of either

a new community, a church, or in hope, or in

search of God, right? Either way, we are the

ones to say, look, you can get it here through

fellowship, right? Come and worship with us,

you can get it here. So that's why it's important.

So if you think about it, why are they coming?

Remember that. They're in search of one of those

things, or maybe all of them. Yeah, yeah, so

if you remember that all the time they reach

out to them look you can right You may not get

all the answers, but you certainly get peace

and eternal Eternal spirit will to help you there,

right? So yeah. Yeah, so that's something to

remember So that's what I always believe, you

know, if I was a newcomer, I want to be approached,

right? Yeah Yeah, for sure and I think too about

In my own experiences of volunteering sometimes

as volunteers. We are searching for those things

as well We're searching for community. We're

searching for hope. And so, one of the things

that people will sometimes say is, well, like,

oh, I could never do X, Y, Z thing, right? Because,

I don't know, I'm not good at that, or I'm not

an extroverted person. I am not an extroverted

person. Believe it or not, I go home very exhausted

at the end of Sundays. Right? Or like, I don't

have it figured out. So how could I possibly

lead an alpha or a life group or any of these

other things? It's like, no, this is actually

just a space like figure it out together. Right.

And and together we get to experience hope and

peace and community. We all have gifts and we

all have gifts. We all have gifts. It's true.

We don't. even know what they are sometimes.

We have an opportunity. I remember being asked

to run the slides one Sunday because the person

who was doing them was going on vacation and

I'm like, what? Because I'm not a techy person

at all. As I said earlier, I was terrified messing

something up and there were so many things to

do. with practice over time and a lot of grace

when I made mistakes too, I want to say, right?

You know, I grew in that skill and, you know,

and I, it's hard to believe that I managed to

do that, you know, on the occasional Sunday.

But it's, yeah. It's your gift. Yeah. Once I

frame it as a hospitality thing, I feel better

about it. So I've been new at this obviously

two years is not long, but I talked to some volunteers

who are here before. They talk about people who

came for the first time. Now they're so deeply

involved in the church. Yeah, absolutely. That's

a huge blessing, right? So I think that's what

we should be hoping for God will guide them.

But we have to make that first impression. Yeah,

for sure. And we have to make space for others

to grow into their gifts and opportunities. Because

some people, like most of us probably, we come

into a church and begin exploring faith. We have

no idea. Yeah, you know, we don't really understand

yet about spiritual gifts and, you know, all

of this sort of stuff. And, you know, a place

like Trinity is a place to explore that, but,

you know, also have opportunities to explore.

And, you know, if you sort of try one thing and

it's like, I don't like that that much. And,

you know, you can try something else. And there's

no judgment. Yeah. Yeah. And with Trinity, there's

so many positions so much in terms of volunteering

like changing someone's way you could be making

coffee and you could have gone through something

for example and then that person who's in the

kitchen they're having a day and then you could

share like it just flows it all comes together

so I just think there's so many opportunities

here at Trinity that just make this come together

make Trinity come together yeah yeah yeah for

sure For sure, yeah. So if there's some folks

who are listening and they're maybe thinking

about volunteering, but they're not quite sure,

what would you say to them? What piece of advice

you might give? Yeah. I'm going to use the tagline

from Nike, and that's just do it. Because it

feels right. And God has so much in store for

you and God will lead your path and just follow

it. Follow that feeling and leave it, let it

go and let God. Definitely, so just do it. Okay,

what about you Liz, what would you say? I would

echo that, you know, just do it and go for it

and there's like, there are so many different,

you know, opportunities and and some of them

are um you know straightforward you don't have

to you know know lots of things and you know

it's sort of like entry level like so you know

you could start um you know handing out chocolate

easter eggs on at the egg hunt right it's it's

Fairly straightforward to do, unless the weather's

awful. But there's lots of different things to

try. And if you don't like something, let's find

something else. Find something else. Because

really, there are tons of opportunities. And

some of them are quite technical or require extra

training and all that style. There's just so

much. You know, every sort of facet of human

life seems to be addressed in some way through

volunteer roles at Trinity. Behind the scenes.

Yeah. Behind the scenes. Lots behind. People

have no idea of the stuff that goes on behind

the scenes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Sunday mornings

is the tip of the iceberg. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

For sure. What would you say Theo? You know,

it's such a blessing to be a volunteer, right?

So I don't want to mess this question up, so

I wrote it down. I got to read from what I wrote

down, okay? So for future volunteers, I would

say don't underestimate what you bring. Your

presence, your willingness to serve can truly

make a difference. Just try it. Like you say,

just do it, just try it. You don't need to have

all the answers or be a certain type of person,

like extra virtual entity. You can be any type

of person. You just need a willing heart. God

can use whatever you bring. Your smile, your

story, your time. One thing is a sacred work.

It's God's love in action. Often, in giving yourself,

you'll discover deeper purpose, connection and

joy than you ever expected. More often than not,

you'll find what you get as much or more out

of what you then you gave. In another example,

Liz talked about how she's a tech expert now.

I didn't say that. Almost. But I'm a little more

comfortable. My hands don't get this way. I know

you didn't say that. I mean, she went in with

apprehension, but she's now good at it, right?

So sometimes we have the talents we don't know.

and give it a try. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Yeah, I guess the only other thing I would sort

of add to that is sort of, like you said, there

are lots of different roles available. So, you

know, we've talked about, you know, being on

the welcome team, serving at alpha or community

events, being an usher on Sunday morning, greeting

people at the door. Being on the chancel guild,

which you don't have to talk to people, really.

I mean, not at all. Not at all except your partner.

Yeah, the person you're serving with. But you

don't have to be out in front of people at all.

No, no. Right. No. Yeah. So there's on the worship

team and kids ministry. That's right. All kinds

of different things. And so if you're listening

and there is something that you are interested

in learning more about or. If you just want to

learn more about volunteering in general at Trinity,

if you're here in our building on a Sunday morning,

the welcome desk is a great place to go and learn

more about that. And if you are not here in the

building or if you're joining us online, you

can hit up our website trinitiestreetsfield .org

slash volunteer. And there's a whole list there

of all kinds of different volunteer opportunities.

So thank you very much, folks, for this really

good conversation. It's been fun. Thanks for

having me. Thank you for having us. Thank you.

And thank you for listening. And I hope that

you've been inspired by some of these stories

and encouraged to find your own ways to volunteer

either here at Trinity or elsewhere out in the

community. And we'll see you again next week.