How to See God | Trinity Talks Podcast

Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's episode

of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla. I'm Melissa.

I'm Justin. And we are all hanging out here to

continue our conversation about the Beatitudes.

Yeah. Yeah. Exciting. The best part of the Sermon

on the Mount? Maybe not. The one today? Yeah.

Scary and good, yes. Yes, yes, yes. So the Beatitudes

open Jesus' Sermon on the Mount and talks about

all these people who are blessed, all these people

that we should be, I guess, in some sense. And

today, Jesus is saying, blessed are the pure

in heart, for they will see God, which just sounds

cool. Like, I'd like to see God. Mm hmm. That

sounds like a good time. Yeah. The pure in heart

is a little bit more daunting. Mm hmm. Yes. So

this beatitude like feels Different to me than

the other Beatitudes at least like like they're

all kind of like stepping up a bar a bit But

like pure and hard is like whoo like way up there

in terms of like hardness to get there. Yes Yeah,

I don't know. What do you guys think like does

it feel like that or are you like now this is

fine? Definitely, when I first look at Pure in

Heart, the first thing I think is, well, that's

not me. I will never obtain that in this lifetime,

at least. And ultimately, we can only be pure

in heart through Jesus and through God, right?

But it is just seeing that on its own. I'm like,

oh, that's a really high expectation. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah, I mean, I guess I don't know. I'm a negative

Nellie. So I can't help but read blessings as

scary things to me. But yeah, I often think,

you know, why am I not seeing God? It must be

because I'm impure in heart. Okay. Okay. You

know, I kind of read it negatively. Do the Beatitudes

work that way, though? No, probably not. It's

like if you're not getting this benefit, it's

because you're not doing the thing. Probably

not. I mean, that's all now. I mean, Now that

I've been reading the Sermon on the Mount more

in my life. Sure. You know, I can see again,

like what I said, I can't remember at some point

in one of these podcasts or in the sermon about

how this is he's describing a world. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. A world in which the people that you think

are not going to be blessed are blessed. And

there's I don't know, I guess I guess now I would

look at it like, what are the sort of disadvantages

of being pure and hard in our world? Right. That

would be advantageous in God's kingdom. Sure.

I guess it kind of slows you down, right? Because

you can't be manipulative. You can't you can't

be playing games with people. You have to just

be pure in your intentions. Right. Pure in why

you're doing things. And and that's tough. I

mean, it makes you less strategic. Yes. In a

fallen world. Yeah. So I guess. this might be

a good place to start in terms of like what are

we talking about when we talk about pure and

hard so you're saying it's someone who is like

having it's sort of single -minded like they

they just like act out of a single intention

yeah as opposed to trying to be manipulative

yeah yeah so um so last week here at the church

i Preached on that passage about don't pray in

public so people like right. It was really good.

I enjoyed it. That's kind of you but Yeah So

I think that's that's the sort of illustration

of what of the opposite of what Jesus is talking

about here, right? Like don't be like that. So

he's not he's not criticizing You know doing

good or following the religious cult of Israel

sure just because those things are bad He's saying

don't do it for ulterior motives, right? Because

I think people would think if I just follow the

law and did everything externally, then I get

the promise of seeing God at the end of all things.

And Jesus saying, no, no, it's not just following

the external ceremonial things. Right. You have

to be pure in heart. And only the people that

do these things purely get the prize. Right.

Which is the vision of God. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

But it definitely is like when I think about

pure in heart, I just think, you know, What,

how do you even like avoid being impure? I feel

like in this world, I feel like that's so hard.

It's like even the most you can be coming from

a genuine intention, but there can still be a

hint of, oh, I'm doing that because I want people

to think I'm this. I want people to think I'm

that, you know, when you're volunteering, you

know, you want to help people and things like

that. But at the same time, like I'm in the social

work field. I know that if I were to volunteer

with vulnerable populations. Yes, I might be

doing that because I care. At the same time,

I can also put it on my resume. Isn't that in

pure and heart as well? Right. Right. It's like.

So so hard. Yeah, so difficult. Yeah, it is I

mean I remember preaching one time on there's

a passage in Timothy's letters where he talks

about some people preach the gospel for profit

And I was like, well, that's really bad. And

then I thought wait, what is my job? Like I work

in ministry I'm getting paid for this. There's

an intent. There's there's always an incentive

for me to fake my way through this because right

You know, I could lose my job if I'm not looking

good on a Sunday, you know? But Jesus is calling

us to something higher. It's like, don't just

do your job. Don't do this for incentives other

than your following of Christ. Yeah. And so,

I think there's just always, like you were just

saying, there's just always this like, I can

do this for a good reason, but there's always

the side benefits. And so then... I don't know.

Does it feel like watering it down if I say like,

well, if it's really about like my primary focus?

Right. Yeah. Right. I mean, that feels more doable

then. Does it also then become less of a true

calling of what Jesus is saying? I don't know.

I think that's why I struggle a lot with this,

because then I think, you know, what does a person

who is pure in heart look like with Jesus? Right.

Right. But. like Justin says, like, what does

that look like in our world today? Because I

sometimes think like, you know, yeah, obviously

we're going to choose to be doing the things

that do bring us some benefit, even if we're

trying to come from a good place. So does that

mean we have to actively choose the things that

will bring us suffering, but we're doing it because

we care. And it's like, but I, I feel like that's

not the most effective way to live life either,

because, you know, Yeah, like, I'm not a masochist.

I just, you know, I want to still be happy. There's

this period of time in my life where I chose,

always chose the harder thing. Because for whatever

reason, in my... wrong theology of my brain,

the hard thing was the holy thing. Right. Which

sometimes the hard thing is the holy thing, but

that's not inherently true. Right? True, yeah.

I feel like, you know, definitely when I was

younger and I, you know, just purely believed

in God, but I wasn't actually, you know, reading

the Bible or anything. It definitely felt like

if I was going through something difficult or

punishing, it was like, this is what God wants.

It's like to be a Christian or to gain something,

I have to suffer. But I think over time, I've

learned that like God does want us to, you know,

enjoy life, I guess, because he did create things

in this world that are enjoyable. Right. It's

like. And like to pull it back to the Beatitudes,

like this is. Being up here in heart all of these

things are like a state of blessing mm -hmm and

Now blessing doesn't always mean like you know

happy excited Lovely life, but it like blessing

should be a good thing great, right? Yeah, I

mean I I also want to be careful. We don't Make

it sound like you've got to do this stuff in

order to be blessed Okay, I don't think the Beatitudes

are mandates in the sense that we normally think

of them. Like these are rules you need to follow

and if you do it, the reward comes down the pike.

You get a blessing, in this case, seeing God.

Again, I think it's primarily a vision of a kingdom.

So these things that Jesus says are only attainable

in faith. Like you've got to believe that God

is good for His word. He's going to bring this

world into existence. So there's a future oriented

thing here. You're looking at Jesus. He's the

proof that God's promise is good, his resurrection.

And then, you know, as things, everything around

you is contradicting this vision. Yeah. Right.

And you got to believe it's not do, do, do. It's

believe, believe, believe. I'm being very Protestant

here, but you got to believe that this kingdom

is more real than everything you're seeing around

you. That purity of heart matters, even though

the world is saying it doesn't matter. Yeah,

it's not. Be like this or you're cursed, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it reminds

me of. So Psalm 51, when when David is sort of

praying the psalm of forgiveness and asking God

for forgiveness, one of the things that he says

is. Um create in me a pure heart. Oh god and

renew a steadfast spirit within me And what that

me now? Yes exactly What that Brings to mind

for me is like this is actually work that god

does Like david doesn't say help me to create

a pure heart in myself. He says no god You do

it god create a pure heart in me, right? Um,

yeah, and so it's just like it's not us Yeah,

striving for it. I like exactly. I feel like,

you know, just as long as we still live in this

broken, fallen world, we're not going to be able

to meet the mark of pure and heart. However,

I think that's the point of, I guess, sanctification.

You know, yeah, you're constantly blowing that

theological saxophone. But yeah, because you

have to you have to pray every single day like

God. you know, change my heart, Holy Spirit come

into me so that I can, you know, be more like

Jesus. That's ultimately the point of it. And

I believe that we won't be like that as long

as we're in this life. However, in the next life,

we will be. Right. But I think it's like that,

you know, kind of saying, like, you know, being

pure in heart, that idea, it's like. I've over

time. I've learned that this this isn't like

a burden on you that you have to do everything

perfect more So it's like a calling to just constantly

be connected to God and constantly inviting God

in because that's the only way we can even be

Close to any sort of purity in our heart because

like I'm not like I'm definitely not pure in

heart without God I'd be even worse so I can

see that like hey, there's you know, like it's

just you just constantly have to be connected

to God and that's like I feel the closest way

we can even be pure in heart and that is Um,

I know we're gonna talk about it, but like, you

know seeing god, what does that mean? Right?

I think I think we're gonna get there. I'm not

gonna jump ahead You can go what does it mean?

Um I feel like it's You know, it's kind of like

um when brit said like you put on the glasses,

right? You start seeing the world not as just

the world But you start seeing people that annoy

you and you might not like but they are a person

who was creating the image of god who god loves

dearly so it's like I mean, I don't think that

Jesus is just going to be waiting for me in my

room being like, good job, you're pure in heart.

I think it's like we're just going to go around

in the world and we're going to start seeing

God. We're going to start seeing things like

love and compassion because our hearts are becoming

more like Jesus. And I think in doing that, we

become more like Jesus too. We are able to show

the same love that he shows. Yeah. That's, I

don't know. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think there's a

very real sense in which part of, maybe not the

whole thing, but part of what it means to see

God is seeing God in the world now, right? And

in interactions with other people, in the beauty

of creation, in all of these different things.

Yeah, I think that's definitely part of it. For

me, like as soon as I read these words, see God,

the like picture that comes to mind for me is

like of Moses. ascending the mountain and seeing

God. Well, part of God. Yes. Yeah, and if that's

what it means to see God, then first of all,

that's wild. And second of all, I don't know

if that happens this side of eternity. Yeah.

So there's another side to this. I don't know

if you're familiar with the term the beatific

vision. No, that's a fun word. Yeah, so the beatific,

it seems beatitude, which is the Latin word for

blessing. Yes. Right. So it's the blessed vision.

OK. And technically the blessed vision of God.

OK. And this is in the end of all things in heaven

or in the renewed heavens and new earth. Yeah.

We get to see God. Yes. Right. So we're no longer

thinking about God. We don't have mediated knowledge

of God. We see God. Right. Like immediately.

The way that Jesus sees God. Okay. Now. Right.

So this is viewed as the whole point of human

existence for most of church history. Okay. Like

this is the thing when Christians pine after.

Right. You know what their reward was. Yeah.

It wasn't, you know, getting to play a harp on

a cloud. It was I get to see God. Right. Right.

So people like Augustine and Luther and Calvin

and St. Thomas Aquinas, they all end their theologies

with we get to see God at the end. OK. And that's

a blessing, because as you know, it says in the

Old Testament, no one can see God and live. Right.

Yes. Right. Because we're we're still unholy.

and God can't be in the presence of the impure.

So there's debates about what does it mean, blessed

are the pure in heart, so they shall see God

means basically you get to go to heaven at the

end. And that's how most people have read this

verse throughout church history. But there's

another wrinkle in it because Jesus says in John's

gospel, Philip, if you've seen me, you've seen

the Father. Right. Right. So kind of like what

you were saying about seeing stuff Jesus is doing

in the world is kind of a foretaste, if you like,

of the of the direct vision of God that we get.

Right. In heaven. Right. So it's like right now

we still have this kind of faith requirement.

Right. We got to trust that even though the world

seems weird, I have to see things through the

lens of Jesus. Yeah. Imagine that he's actually

the king of this world. even though the world

seems like a lawless, anarchic place, it's heading

towards this place where God dwells in the middle

of the city with all of us, as in Revelation.

So it takes faith, but that faith will one day

become sight. Which is crazy. We will actually

get to see God. Now, what that means, there's

debates in theology. But it's going to be cool.

I would say yes. Well, we have to at least believe

right that should be in the creed like we should

probably god I believe that it will be cool To

see you one day. Yeah, that's kind of the crux

of this whole thing. Yeah. Yeah and Yeah, there's

so The the beatitudes most of the second parts

are like sort of future tense they will see god

And so there is a sense, yeah, that it's pointing

us towards a like future thing. And yeah, now

we get the little taste of it. Yeah. But it's

also real. Jesus is really resurrected. So the

future is kind of already happening. Time is

collapsing in on itself. Yeah, yeah. So so when

you see someone give a cup of cold water, I mean,

Jesus says this in Matthew twenty five. Right.

Right. Like, well, he puts himself in the position

of the oppressed. Yeah. Right. But he says, you

know, when you see this stuff happening, you

are following me. Yeah. And you're serving me

like there's more going on behind the curtain.

Right. And you realize now because of Jesus's

reign and his resurrection. Right. Yeah. And

then in the future, it's all going to get unveiled.

Right. That's what it'll just be like, super

obvious. Oh, of course, this is what. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's that's what apocalypse. means

in the New Testament apocalypse of John means

unveiling. Yeah, it's like all of a sudden we'll

see. It really was Jesus I was serving. I really

was Jesus I was visiting in prison. Yeah, this

really was his world the whole time. Yeah, it's

going to be awesome. And that also just I guess

like for when Jesus when he was crucified, like

even beforehand, he said, you know, you have

to have like. faith of children, right? OK, I

just want to confirm. You need to have faith

like a child. Like a child. And so when he was

resurrected, I think it took a lot of faith or

even just to believe that like Jesus would be

resurrected. This actually was Jesus in the flesh.

So in a way, it was kind of like for his disciples

and just the people back then, it's like they

had to have that pure childlike heart to be like,

oh, my goodness, this this is God. And so. in

that literal sense they did see God but I can

also imagine the alternative of them being like

I'm just going to be a doubtful adult all the

time even if I see proof and no that's not God

and it's like you I guess it is related to that

just like that childlike faith I mean it's funny

the challenge of faith there's the side of it

that's like I can't see right now but then there's

other the other side about I mean, you just did

this survey today for a church where you're like,

what are people worrying about? Because Rob's

preaching about worry. And the number one thing

was global events. Yes. Which was crazy, right?

I mean, we're all just worried about the world.

We're worried about the world because the world

looks nuts right now. Right. So it takes guts

to believe that that stuff is not as real as

God's perfect kingdom of justice and harmony

and love. Yeah, it takes faith. Yes, right. You

got to look at the resurrected Christ and be

like that's the real thing This stuff is just

passing. Yep So it's it's not like It's not Pollyanna

ish. It's like yeah, it's it's grit to believe

that stuff and then to act Yes in the way that

that fits that belief Yes, I've always exactly

I feel like faith is like On one hand, it's like,

it's really, really, really, really hard to have

faith. It's really hard to trust that, you know,

being obedient to God is real. And even just

personally for me, there are times where I start

doubting. I'm like, is God real? And I have to

really be like. you know, going kind of back

into that faith zone and prayer. But like those

doubts do come to me. And so it's and at the

same time, too, it's like because I used to always

think that, you know, you had to do the hard

thing in order to be seen well in God's eye for

God to like like you and want you to be in heaven.

It's like, actually, no, it's it's much easier

than that. We just have to have faith in God.

So it's like it's like so. Different where it's

like on one hand. It's actually quite easy You

don't need a scale a mountain or like being suffering

your whole life at the same time It's like you

just have to believe but then that's so hard

to just believe And I think it's like if you

were to just go in with completely blind belief

that is pure and hard, but I think humans it's

There's always just like that little bit of doubt.

I mean, that's why there's another blessing at

the end of I think Luke's gospel where Thomas

does this thing where he like feels the like

wounds and Jesus and he's like, OK, now that

I've seen these wounds, I believe. And then I

always imagine Jesus kind of turning to the camera

and being, yeah, but blessed are those who believe

and have not seen. Right. Yeah. Because I mean,

it's it's it's one thing. I don't know, I imagine

even the disciple, well, Judas, right? I mean,

the disciples, I don't think, never struggled

with faith after seeing the resurrected Christ,

right? Paul talks about struggling with sin and

Romans and so forth. But there's a special blessing

that we kind of have, right? According to Christ.

You know, yeah, that's true. I've definitely

said prayers in my life probably even just recently

being like God Can you just like speak to me?

Can you just like tell me what to do? And then

I have that voice In my head, that's like, but

blessed are those who have not seen. And I'm

like, OK, so like, if you want to, you can talk

to me. But like, if it's better for me for you

to not audibly speak to me, that's also OK, too.

That's true. Sometimes I'm like, I'm willing

to forego that blessing if I can see you. Yeah.

If you could just tell me what to do right now.

That could be helpful. I want to kind of throw

maybe another wrinkle in here. Sweet. Because

When I think about purity and we've sort of jumped

around this word a little bit like the other

word that comes to mind here is holy and So maybe

it's important for us to think about if we're

trying to be pure in heart Is that the same thing

as trying to be holy? Are they different? I think

I mean, I think the Greek word is more like clean.

Okay So it's for pure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's

it's like cleansed cleaning that kind of thing.

Okay. Okay. Whereas holy would be holy is a different

word. Yes. Holy means set apart for particular.

Right. Divine use. Right. Right. So yeah, I think

in the context of the Sermon on the Mount, it

means don't be double minded in your intentions.

Okay. I think so. I don't think it means moral

purity. Sure. Like people who sin less. Sure.

Get the privilege of seeing God. It's a part

of it. Sure. Right. But I don't think we are

given prizes for fewest sins. Sure. Which sounds

very counterintuitive, right? Only one person

is given a prize for fewest sins and it's Jesus

because he had no sins. Right. Right. And the

rest of us are riding on his coattails. So I

again, this is something that I think is vexed

me in my life. Maybe it sounds like you guys,

too, where you think I'm so sinful. Yeah. Because

of X, Y, Z things in my life. I'm not going to

see God. Yeah. And I think that's what Jesus

is talking about. Right. Right. Because the people

that thought they were righteous, that were following

all the rules. Yeah. Those are the ones who are

disqualified. And those are the ones Jesus goes

after the rest of the sermon. Yeah. And in other

places in the Gospels. Yeah. So it sounds like

like pure and heart is yeah about double mindedness

or intention and it sounds like you're equating

holiness with like sinlessness in some sense

i think sinlessness is the thing it's i think

it's a derivative quality of of something that's

holy okay sure well really is something that's

holy is something that's set apart for god to

use in a particular way right right so making

sure that thing is sinless and clean. Yeah, prepares

for it. But really, it's in the using of the

thing by God that makes it holy. Yeah, sure.

Sure. I wonder if like, OK, so like maybe pure

and hard it maybe it's like just like the vulnerability

that you have as well, because it's like, yeah,

like, how do you get to be pure and hard? None

of us are sinless. None of us, you know, are

going to be. you know, perfect like Jesus is.

However, maybe it's like instead of coming to

God being like, oh, yeah, God, like, can you

help me with this? Like if you have time, it's

just like maybe just being in that state of pure

desperation and vulnerability, because what's

what's more pure than like pain? Like I can't.

Yeah, like literally, like I cannot do this like.

Just being completely honest to God not putting

up any walls like we might in our life like Telling

God the hard truth that even it's harder hard

for us to admit Maybe that's like to appear in

heart and that's like when God is like, okay,

like I can work with you now because you're not

hiding and Maybe yeah Yeah, I mean, I think that's

true. That's like, think of all the ragtag group

of folks hanging out with Christ, right? He's

going after these people. He chooses the people

that are like, Peter falls down and he's like,

I'm not worthy, you know, in Luke chapter five,

Matthew, the tax collector is like, please not

me, Zacchaeus, please not me. Yeah. And Jesus

loves those people. Yeah. You know, it's the

people that are like, I deserve this that he

turns away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So then. the pure

in heart the people who Feel like they're not

worthy but who are It's in some sense desperate

Yeah, right like they do your pure in heart and

one of the reasons one could be pure in heart

is you have no other options Yeah, that's why

it's easy for poor people and people to get to

heaven according to Christ, right? Right. They're

not as entwined in the world. They got nothing

at stake here. They're just all in. There's nothing

else to be in for. I've definitely heard testimonies

of people who were just on their last leg. They

were rock bottom and that's when they finally...

called out to christ and they you know i've heard

testimonies of people who actually had it's called

a christophany like when you actually see jesus

um and just other people who like after they

fully just like surrendered and was a pile of

tears and sadness but then that's kind of like

where they then started to see changes in their

life they were positive through god yeah um so

Maybe like being pure and hard is just like being

completely honest to God and completely like

I'm struggling with this This is really really

hard. I'm like a sinful mess Jesus helped me

right because I think even just saying like help

it's like really hard like to other people help

us hard, but to ask God that you cannot see it's

even harder. Yeah Yeah, which I think then actually

circles us back nicely to this idea that Like

being pure in heart is not actually a thing we

do. It's a thing. It's a gift we receive. It's

a gift we receive. It's a thing that God does

in us. And then we get to reap the rewards of

that. We get to see God because God gave us a

gift. That's the whole deal with Christianity

is we get the stuff that Jesus earned. Yeah.

Right. Jesus pleased God. Jesus refrained from

sinning. Jesus obeyed the Father. And he gets

all the benefits. And then we, I keep saying

this, ride on his coattails. Yeah. Through our

union with Christ by the Spirit. But we ride

on his coattails into heaven. Yes. Or into God's

presence, rather. Yes. This is all very cool.

Jesus is like pretty awesome. Yes. Yeah. I was

thinking about this, but it's like technically

like One day when we see Jesus, he'll be like,

oh, that was a cool podcast he did with those

people. OK, now you've ruined it. I'm terrified

now. Oh, no. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know. I just,

of course, like, yeah, I guess like we're only

like we can't be pure in heart in this world.

We're only in the next world. And that's only

because of God's love, because Jesus loves us

that much. Yeah. By the way, have you seen those?

This TikToks of Jesus doing a podcast. What?

No. AI generated videos of Jesus being in a podcast.

I think I thought it was going to be blasphemous,

but it's actually pretty faithful to that. It's

him sitting, being like, yes, I'm sitting there

at this wedding. They run out of they run out

of wine and my mom comes up to me. And he's like,

oh, wow. I don't know what 21st century Jesus

would be like. I don't know, but it sounds chill.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like he would be chill.

Yeah, in a royal kind of way. Yeah. I feel like

he'd be funny. Like, he'd have a sense of humor

for sure. Well, Jesus was like the life of the

party. That's true. Most of the time. If you

were in the right kind of party. I don't know.

I have no idea. Yeah, sure. I can believe that.

He definitely wasn't a 13th century monk. No.

No. God bless the monks though. We need them

sometimes. They write good things. So, blessed

are the pure in heart. The people who are just

trying to follow Jesus. People that hunger and

thirst after righteousness. You can add that.

People that hunger and thirst after purity. I

guess like when you first kind of read this you

do feel like you have to kind of put on this

like Hoity -Tooty kind of like persona. I am

pure in heart. Right and I am all this and I

have such good intentions all the time but it's

like I guess like no maybe it's it's like you

just have to be the mess that you are and be

honest and open about that and I think Think

like every single person I believe is a mess

in some way whether they want to admit it or

not. Yeah However, maybe by being that method

acknowledging it you also develop a sense of

compassion and empathy for other people too So

instead of seeing someone who's pissed you off

like, you know as like you're a terrible person

I hope you do go away whatever you instead see

them as like actually I've been in your spot

before too and I don't agree with what you did

but like I don't condemn or judge you for that.

And perhaps that's like, you know, you you see

God in them, you see them as one of God's children.

And I think you get to that point after you've

been through that yourself and you've been like,

like, what's it called? Like when the when the

coal becomes like the diamond? Oh, yeah. Diamondification.

Yes. Is that the word? Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah.

And so while you were talking, the word that

came to mind for you was like authenticity. It

feels like an essential or at least, yeah, an

important part of this. Because if someone is

being double minded in the sense of like they're

not. pure in their intentions. There has to be

a hiding that takes place in that, where I'm

like, I'm going to present this front, but actually

hide the fact that I'm doing this other thing.

So then being authentic and like, being like,

no, this is, I'm going to lay it all on the table.

It's like that dude that came up to Jesus who

was like, I want to make it into the kingdom

of heaven. It was like, all right, what have

you done? You got to love God with all your heart

and love your neighbor and stuff. And the guy's

like, yeah, I did all that stuff. So great. Sell

everything that you own. And it was exposed that

he didn't really want to follow Jesus. Yes. Right?

Because he was very rich and he's like, I don't

want to give up all that stuff. Yeah. Right?

He didn't have a pure heart. Yeah. And Jesus

still loved the guy. Oh, totally. But he didn't

get to see God. Or at least at that point. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. So blessed are the pure in heart.

The people who are doing their best to follow

the way of Jesus. And importantly, have received

that as a gift from God. We just can't do it

by ourselves. And that's really nice to think,

though, that like, you know, God is giving us

a gift if we're just being who we are. Ultimately,

like we can't hide anything from God, but it's

like God loves the messy, gross pile of... mess

that we are. Yeah. What's that prayer that we

say that you're going to say in two seconds?

Oh, yeah. God from whom no secrets are hidden.

Yes. Cleanse the thoughts of our hearts. Yeah.

By the inspiration of your Holy Spirit. Yeah.

That we may perfectly love you. Yes. Perfectly.

I learned that prayer in Scotland when I used

to live there. So I just still hear people say,

perfectly love thee and worthily magnify thy

holy name. That's a terrible accent. I can't

say it that way, but that's lovely Yeah, so blessed

are these people because they're gonna see God

maybe now in little four tastes But definitely

in the end of all things right God's gonna be

there and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah Yeah, yeah.

Hey man Thank you so much folks and thank you

for tuning in to this week's episode of Trinity

Talks I hope that As you think about what it

means to be pure in heart, that that's not like

a super big, stressful burden that you carry,

but it's just. And accepting the gift of God

that we get to be on this journey and see him

all in the end. We'll see you next week.