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6 Countries, 3 Months, 1 Lifechanging Experience | Trinity Talks Podcast
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Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's episode
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of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla, and I am really
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glad that you are joining us today. We have a
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really exciting conversation today. I'm going
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to be talking with Megan, who is the Children's
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Ministry Director here at Trinity, but also just
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recently came back from three months traveling
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the world, maybe not the whole world, but a good
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chunk of the world. So, Megan, where did you
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go? What did you do? Why were you gone for three
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months? All good questions, yeah. I went away
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for three months to do a YWAM program. So, YWAM
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is a mission organization, a youth of mission,
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and they run this Bible school called their Bible
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Core Course or BCC. And they let you read the
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whole Bible in three months. Okay. Read it multiple
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times, actually. And then they take you to the
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places that the Bible was written while you're
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reading it. Okay. So we started and ended the
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trip in Switzerland, in Lausanne. That's where
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the YWAM base is. And that's just kind of like
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the people who organize it. That's where they
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gather. And then we traveled around to Greece,
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Egypt, Israel, Turkey, and Italy. Okay. I always
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have to remember all of them. Yes. But I did.
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You did. That was a very good list. Yeah. Yeah.
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So what made you want to do this trip? Oh, so
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many things. I just... Well, actually, first
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of all, honestly, it's something God put on my
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heart like in 2019 when I was like wrapping up
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my undergrad and like you always ask those big
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scary questions of like, hey, what's next? Like,
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what am I going to do? Life outside of school
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is scary. And it still is. But something that
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God really put on my heart was to be really grounded
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in the Word. And I was like, cool, like there's
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divinity schools, like all over Ontario, I'm
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going to get him one and I'm going to lay this
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good, solid biblical foundation for my life.
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But I really felt it impressed upon me to go
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there. And I didn't know how, like I was like,
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I can't just like go to Israel, like out of nowhere
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by myself. Like it doesn't make any sense. But
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then I went to YWAM with another program that
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they run called their DTS, which is like their
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interim mission. And the first day I was there,
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they said, we run a Bible course that goes to
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where it was written. I was like, that's perfect.
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It was almost like it was given to me, like this
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specific course. But the desire to do, of course,
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the travels to location is just to like have
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a really, really rich foundation in the word.
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I knew I wanted to do ministry of some kind.
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I didn't yet know that it would be kids ministry
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all the way, although I'm happy that it is. But
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I really knew that no matter what I did, I needed
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this foundation. I didn't grow up going to Sunday
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school or anything. So I really, really wanted
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to keep up and like know these important stories
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and really just be formed by the word. Cause
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I think it had something to offer me. And to
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go there, I just I've been talking to people
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about it, like it's like your best friend taking
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you to their hometown. It's like, hey, this is
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where I grew up and like this is where I did
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this cool thing. This is where my first job was.
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And this is where me and my mom did this thing.
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So that's what I wanted. Like I wanted to know
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Jesus in that way. So, yeah, that's very cool.
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That's a really cool analogy, like a really cool
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way to like think about it. That like, yeah,
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sitting. here we like obviously can have this
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really rich understanding of Christ, you know,
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like that's not going to Israel, going to these
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different places. It's not like a requirement.
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No, it's not. Right. Like the, but, but it does,
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it enriches your faith in a different way. Yeah.
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And I think that's something I've been telling
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people too, is that like the Bible is going to
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be good wherever you are. Like the Bible is good
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in church on Sunday. It's good like in your room
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at home. It's good at one of these amazing schools
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we have to go there was just like, this cool
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intimacy that I could have with God while I was
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learning it. And I'm a very experiential learner
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and I love to travel and I have like this interest
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in supporting missions and like I just really
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wanted to go and have that visceral experience.
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And I just thought... I want to know these things
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that you can't read. I want to know what the
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Red Sea smells like. I want to open up Exodus
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and know what it was like to be in the wilderness
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and kind of have these visual reminders. So for
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me, as a visual and experiential learner, it
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was so helpful. So I'm sure going into this experience,
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you had a lot of sort of expectations or hopes
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for what you thought this was going to be like.
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So did the trip live up to those expectations?
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Were there some things that you maybe didn't
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expect? Yeah, I definitely surpassed my expectations.
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It's just it's so cool. Like it's so enriching.
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And I think I will say also like to your earlier
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question, like I think like What I've been telling
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people to summarize the trip is like it can't
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increase your faith going to these places. Sure.
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But like it affirms the reality of scripture
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in such a visceral way. Like you go to historic
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monuments and things like different important
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historic spots that they have around here. And
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you're like, wow, that happened here. But like
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with this trip, it's like. Yeah, like God did
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that here, like God moved that seat and Jesus
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walked there. And so like my expectation was
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to have those visceral experiences that would
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support my knowledge of scripture in that way.
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And even though you can know scripture well anywhere,
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it did that. And it was just. It was so beautiful
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to be with God in those spaces. I think one thing
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I really respect about YWAM is that they really
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prioritize your personal formation. So yes, they
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gave us a lot of good tools to get into the Word
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and to know it really well, but they also made
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space just for prayer and just for you to be
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with God and for you to worship and to really
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think about what this means for you and allow
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God to do that inner work in you. And that is
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all what I expected. and I had all of that met
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and I got to know the Word and I got to know
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God in such a beautiful, intimate way. There
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was one moment when I was in the Garden of Gethsemane,
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just beside Jerusalem, and there were not that
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many people there at that time, and there were
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just all these different olive trees and we all
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got to sit underneath them and just pray to God
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about what it was like. for Jesus to go to the
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cross and what actually that felt like to him
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and what that pressure would have been like and
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just sit with him and pray about that. And so
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intimate moments like that is what I went there
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for and what I got just to know my Jesus a little
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better. And then it surpassed my expectations
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in so many ways. Like you can't expect something
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this awesome. Like you can't expect something
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with so many awesome layers to it. just to learn
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what the wilderness was like. Sure. I didn't
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think about that, but it's so obvious. Like in
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retrospect, like I think of the wilderness, I'm
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from like Ontario. I think about like Muskoka
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and I think about like dense forest. I think
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about bugs and swamp. Nothing like that. The
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wilderness in Egypt is barren. Like there's no
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plants, right? It's desert and it's rock. And
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that's, and there's really nothing. So like you
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just think about like, emptiness. And I think
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that like changes my whole view of like Exodus
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and my whole view of when the Israelites were
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in the wilderness, because it's not like overwhelming
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obstacles and like, you know, torrential emotions
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and torrential downpour and things. It's like,
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it's just emptiness. And so that was something
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that I didn't expect that was interesting and
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informed my understanding. And then another thing
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that surpassed my expectations, I could talk
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forever about it, but one final thing is like
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my leaders were so important to my experience.
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I knew that the Word was going to be good and
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I knew that Wyoming was going to run a good program.
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But I didn't expect so much wisdom to come from
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the leaders of the school. Honestly, if those
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leaders had led any Bible school, even if it
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didn't travel... you wouldn't get so much out
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of it because they just, they've been doing it
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for years and you can tell, like they just, they're
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just people who like, who live the scripture
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and breathe it and steep in it every day. And
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there's the leader of the school is this amazing
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woman named Maida, who I just look up to so much.
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And you can just tell she's been living her life
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steeped in this because she can, she can say
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it and not in a way like, you know, did you know
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in like little facts, but like she's really absorbed
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the wisdom of scripture. So to get that much
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from my leaders was something I didn't expect.
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It was beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, that's super cool.
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And like really neat how. Yeah, just like you
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said, just like being there and being in it is
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is such an important part of that that formation.
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Absolutely. And like, I mean, I think about to
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like even for myself, like. I just, I hear God
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better outside in general. Yeah. And so just
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being able to then be outside, but in the garden
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of Gethsemane, like in the wilderness where the
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Israelites walked and complained and like all
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of these things, right? But just like to get
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that sense of like, God was, is. there. Yeah,
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absolutely. And it does feel weighty to be there
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and to know that these things actually happened
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and this is the place where it happened. Like,
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there's a cool weight to it. So, yeah, just to
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experience the reality of scripture was really
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beautiful. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So what about
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like the. logistics of the traveling and like
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all of all of that. Like it was probably a lot.
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Yeah. Well, again, yeah, how did that go? We
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had these amazing leaders who put it all together.
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So we had like this one leader, Maida, and she
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would like speak to us from scripture, like pray
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over us. And it was amazing. And they all would.
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But we also had amazing, like practical leaders.
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One woman named Emeline is just like the details
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master. And so she planned all of it. It's very
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luxurious. I almost felt guilty sometimes. I'm
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like, who am I to have all this luxury? Like
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we could just, all the hotels were arranged,
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all the transportation was arranged. We were
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really, really lucky to like. be connected with
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certain local communities. In Turkey, we stayed
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at a hotel, but they have a really, really good
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relationship with the hotel owners. We like knew
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all of the staff and things. And in Egypt, we
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stayed at Midas home and all of that. So a lot
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of it, and they've been running that program
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for, I think, like 15 years now. So it's, you
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know, it's all very like laid out for us. It's
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actually funny because I've done traveling before
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and like been overwhelmed by all the details,
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but like they just did it for you. So it was
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very luxurious. It was definitely like, definitely
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pushed me a little bit. I'm scared of lying and
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I didn't think about that. That's a lot to then
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do. Six country, five or six. So many flights.
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Yeah, so many flights. But it's okay. It was
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a good challenge for me. And you also make such
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good friends on these trips. So then traveling
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was easy because you just mess around with them
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and have good chats. You just hang out with your
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people. And they had you studying the whole time
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also. We were in airports and they're like, okay,
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before you get on the flight, I need you to read
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Titus. So we're like in the airports reading
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it. like going through on the plane they're like
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you need to mark up like the book of Matthew
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and like like they really had you doing stuff
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the whole time so the logistics they had all
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worked out for us and we just got to enjoy being
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in the word which was again so luxurious yeah
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yeah that's awesome yeah it was yeah so it sounds
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like It was a very full three months. Very much.
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Lots of really delightful moments. Yeah, totally.
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Are there like one or two like highlights that's
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like this was like the coolest or like a really
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important moment for you? Oh, it's there's so
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many. Like the whole thing was so important.
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I think that moment I described of being in Gethsemane
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was really important to me. I'm more of a contemplative
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person. I love games and being around people,
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but I connect with God best when I'm in nature
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and when I can be alone with Him. And to have
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that moment and to pray and to ask Him, what
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was it like? to suffer in this way for your people
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and to be alone in this way and to hear that
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from him and like just get to rest in that and
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read over the scripture where he's praying over
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Jerusalem was just so intimate. I think that
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was even like a turning point just for me and
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like my year and my walk with God, just to kind
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of humble myself and not think about like, hey,
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God, like, what are you asking of me? And like,
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what am I doing next? And things, but just to
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put it aside and just like. I actually just want
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to know your story better, God, and to read and
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to know that better. So that was really beautiful.
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And then we would walk like into the city and
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we walked to the Holy Sepulcher and just to reflect
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on the cross so intimately was really important
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for me. Yeah. And just to remember what he's
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done and that he does it out of love. I was like,
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I feel like what I got from that, like how much
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he loves us, that's like where it all comes from.
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So that was important for me. And then a couple
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of days later, they have like another spot in
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Jerusalem called the Garden Timbs. People in
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Jerusalem disagree on where things happened.
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And it's so difficult to say. It was 2000 years
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ago. But the Holy Sepulchre is one place where
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they proposed that he was crucified. And then
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there's the garden tomb, which is just outside
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of the city. And it's another space. But I thought
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both offered spaces for meaningful reflection.
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Either way, Jesus was here. It's still meaningful.
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Then a couple of days later in the garden tomb.
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It was all about resurrection. They do it up
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in this beautiful, lush garden. It's so beautiful
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and green and full of flowers and they have gardeners
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working in it all the time. And they have like
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this tomb where they believe is where he was
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buried. And the stone is rolled to the side and
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just to like relish in that victory. We did that
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a couple of days after we went to the Holy Sepulchre.
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So it's this beautiful experience of the Easter
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story and moving through that. And then we got
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to worship. Like they gave us space just to sing
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and to praise God and thank him for who he is
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and what he's done and the victory that we have
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in Jesus. It was, I don't know, it was just such
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an important reminder of like who I am and how
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I've been freed and how God loves me. So that,
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and that was like the very center of our trip.
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And I think that was like the heartbeat of the
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whole thing for me, among many other amazing
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experiences. Like we also went to local churches
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wherever we went. And that was amazing to see
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different expressions of faith. Like we went
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to a church in Egypt, just like our leaders local
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church. That was so impactful for me too. Because
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in Egypt, there's a very small Christian population
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and it's actually really difficult to have a
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church there. It's difficult to open new ones
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and sometimes they experience violence in those
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spaces just for worshiping. But we went to this
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church and you have to go through security to
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get in and put your bags aside because they've
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had violence there before. It's a little more
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hostile in that area. But when we went in, the
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church was full. It was hundreds and hundreds
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and hundreds of people. And the music was beautiful.
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But more than that, like the worship was authentic
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and rich and deep and just people knowing that
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they need Jesus and knowing that there could
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be a cost to them worshiping, but saying that
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that's worth it and just coming alongside them.
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gave this message, we didn't understand the language,
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but they gave you these little earbuds and they
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talked to you and they translated it to English,
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just like some guy sitting in the back, like
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doing his best. But they had this beautiful message
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just about repenting and how he asked us just
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turn back to him, just keep turning back. And
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these people like really putting everything on
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the line and being willing to come here and worship
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and turn back to him. Like, who am I to do anything
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else? Like when when God has done all of this
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for me and when these people are willing to turn
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to him and come to him even at a cost. And that
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was a big moment for me. Yeah, so many. Those
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are the two that I got a first. No, no, that's
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yeah, that's really awesome. Yeah, and and neat
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that. To get to live that Easter story, like
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you were saying, that just feels so cool. Yeah,
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it was. Yeah, unbelievable. And they really spaced
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it out. Again, Wyom's really intentional about
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you personally receiving that story. And just
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to rejoice in that, I feel like I've been rejoicing
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ever since. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's
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really good. Yeah. On the flip side of that,
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I'm sure that there were moments that were less
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ideal, moments that were maybe a little more
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challenging. Yeah, so what were some of those
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challenging moments for you? Yeah, thank you
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for asking. We'll do the honest review of it.
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Well, but even this is a positive as well. Like,
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they work you hard at that school. Like, it was
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not a vacation. Like, sure, they would get you.
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So they have this fabulous Bible study method
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and they're all about inductive study. Okay.
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So looking at the word for what it says to us,
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like not what we want it to say for us. So like
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really treating it as an independent text. And
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that process involves reading a book through.
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So like saying the book of Matthew, you read
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it through and then they have you like go through
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and highlight with different colors, like just
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to get the facts of the story, like highlight
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the names and the places and the times. Very
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easy. And then they get you to summarize every
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single paragraph with four words from the paragraph,
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which took time. And then they get you to summarize
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little sections and then they get you to summarize
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chapters and then they get you to summarize,
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summarize, summarize. And then you're allowed
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to interpret. but you have to interpret based
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on what it meant to the people of that time.
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And that's where our lectures came in and they
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would have fabulous missionaries come in who
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study the word and they would explain it to us
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what the context is. And only after you've done
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all of that, are you allowed to think, okay,
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what does this mean to me? And that was an important
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challenge for me because I'm so used to just
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picking it up and like doing my devotionals in
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the morning, just being like, Hey God, what do
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you want to say to me? And like opening it up
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and then reading it and trying my best. But this
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is so much richer because there's a distinction.
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What is it? The Bible is for me, but it's not
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about me. There's something like that. I don't
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think that's it. But it's not about Megan. I
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don't open it up and this story. The Psalms aren't
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written about me. They're not written about my
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situation. we can glean so much more truth when
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we read it for what it is, like in the context
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that it was written in. So that was an important
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challenge because it was reworking the way that
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I approach scripture in a fundamental way. Like
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I have to approach it with that humility. And
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actually when you approach it as something that's
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not written like about you, then you actually
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get so much more out of it because you understand
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like the truth of that story and who God was
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in that story and not just like trying to figure
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out my own life. So humbling myself before scripture
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was a challenge that was wonderful. And I'm so
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grateful for it. So maybe that's not where you're
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at. Going forward. I'm like, no, I loved it because
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I was changed in that way. Yeah, no. But but
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yeah, like it is like you said, like a reworking
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of the way that you approach scripture. And there's
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something hard in that, something challenging
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in that, right? Yeah, but so important. Like,
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I needed that. And I'll never approach Scripture
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the same way again. Like, I won't go in it so
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simply, even though it is simple. Like, it's
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approachable. Like, anyone can do it. But we
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just have to be humble and see what God is saying,
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like, to us, not what we want it to say. And
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even getting out of our own lives and just...
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thinking about the story of the Bible and who
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God is like outside of me. And there's so much
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freedom in that, too. Just knowing the truth
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of God that's outside of me, I think is like
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helpful because I get very like in my own head
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as I think we all do, like my own problems, my
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own stuff. What's next? Like, no, well, this
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is true, actually. And this is really good to
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get out on my own head sometimes in that way.
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Yeah, totally. And then the challenge with that
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was just how much work that was. Yeah, totally.
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It was, I was so tired. It was great though.
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I love studying. I'm so nerdy. Like I love getting
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into books and the context and the lectures.
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I loved it. But we were up late and like we were
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up early and they had all of our time booked.
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And then you're also traveling on top of it,
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which is why we're reading on planes and like,
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and reading in the airports and in the cars and
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things. And I get sick when I read in cars. And
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so I was like trying. So that was the challenge.
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But it's like, I don't know, it's like if you're
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exercising, if you're running or something like
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there's some days where you do the long run,
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right? And it's like more work and you run further
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and you push and it wouldn't be good to do that
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every day. But it's really good once in a while
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because you grow. That's what this felt like
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with Bible study. Like, OK, we're not we can't
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do this all the time. Like I would love to, but
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can't study the Bible from seven in the morning
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to nine at night every day unless I go and be
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a Bible scholar. But that's not my thing right
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now. But it's it's really helpful for a season.
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And I think, yeah, we all grew a lot through
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that. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. And I
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think just like as you were talking, I was just
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thinking about the different ways that we approach
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scripture. And I think. Like there, like you
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said, there is a time and a season for like doing
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this really deep dive into scripture. And God
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totally meets us in that, as you've said. And
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like we don't all have the privilege of like
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taking that entire season or like whether it's,
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you know, traveling or doing it at home, like
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we don't always have that extended amount of
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time, but God meets us in the short. Oh, he does.
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Absolutely. Yeah. And what I'm really excited
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about is that that was my season of really dedicated
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Bible study. But we're all called to be Bible
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scholars. We're all called to listen to it and
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see what's in there. and we'll never know all
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of it. And I find that really exciting because
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we have an adventure like until the day we die,
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we can always learn more. Like there's always
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something new. Like that's such an adventure
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to me. And you do not have to take time apart
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to do it. Like you can do it every day and you
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can find courses and you can find just other
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people and like find great resources. Like the
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Bible Project's amazing and like just really,
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really cool, supportive things. everybody can
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do. Now, if you're a young adult and you had
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the space, I'd recommend it for anybody. Like,
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not even just this program, just some dedicated
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season, like for Bible study. It's just so foundational.
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But we'll do it our whole lives. And I'm excited
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about that. Yeah, yeah, totally. So, so in that
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vein, what are some of the sort of things that
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you are taking? from this season and sort of
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bringing into this next season of your life.
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That's great. Yeah. Well, I want to tell the
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kids about it, like about what I learned and,
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and I have photos now to like support. Like we're
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doing, like we're talking about Ephesus this
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weekend. So I've got my Ephesus photos because
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that was the place that we went in Turkey, which
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is cool. So I know it'll support the ministry
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because I have a deeper understanding of scripture
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that I want to take to how I serve the kids here.
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But I... There's so much more than that. Like
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I think that inductive study method is something
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that I'm going to use to get into the word all
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the time, which I think helps me be formed by
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the word. So I want to take that with me. And
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even just like this reminder of the gospel that
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I got like in Jerusalem and my whole time being
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there with him and this reminder of like how
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righteousness is given to me by God as a gift
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to Jesus. Like that was important learning that.
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we gathered in the study of Romans, like just
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these important nuggets of truth are going to
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just be important to me. Like they just form
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my character and for my disposition, for my ministry
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and also just how I engage with everybody in
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my life. Just knowing the truth that I'm saved
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and knowing the truth of who God is and how he's
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redeemed me and restored me to himself. But I'm
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going to go through this process of continuing
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to be sanctified and continuing to grow my whole
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life. And just like these bits of truth and And
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the hope that I have in Jesus of like ultimately
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like all of God's creation being redeemed and
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restored and all of these nuggets of truth are
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going to be so important for me going forward
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in everything that I do. And I want to share
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that with people. And right now that's the kids
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at Trinity. And we're going to be in Revelation
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for the next few weeks at Trinity, which is awesome
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because we studied it there. And I think that.
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There's like this hope that the whole Bible and
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especially Revelation proclaims and I want to
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share with them. And I hope that these resources
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I've gathered can help me do that. Yeah. Yeah,
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that's awesome. Yeah, thanks. What about in like
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your spiritual journey? Like how have you seen
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God form you? Yeah. Yeah, I think I'd love to
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talk more about like that righteousness piece.
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Like he's just talked to me about like what it
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means to like live righteously, because there's
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always like this tension, like this important
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question that we have. that I think like Paul
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is addressing in Romans of like righteousness
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is given to us as a gift, but you're still called
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to like live a righteous life. Like you're still
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called to like godly behavior and you're called
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towards integrity. And it's always this tension
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of like, hey, like I'm redeemed by Jesus. Like
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I'm not redeemed through like anything that I've
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done. And righteousness is given to me because
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I'm made right with God by Jesus's work on the
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cross. So then what am I doing? But like, I know,
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like I know I'm supposed to be a good person
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or whatever, but, but it's given to me, like
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I'm right with God for something beyond me. And
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I think there was this important truth in Romans
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that I feel like is really basic, but God like
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brought to a new level with me, which is that
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when you realize what God has done for you in
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Jesus's work on the cross and in his resurrection,
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like, you just naturally want to respond by honoring
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God. It's like someone giving you the best gift
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in the world, like something bigger than you
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could ever want and everything that you've ever
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wanted. And even though you were unkind to that
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person and you rejected that person, and that
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person's like, I want to give you everything
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you've ever wanted and more. And you're like,
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oh, what do I do in response? I want to live
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well, and I want to live rightly with that person.
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And I feel like that's what God taught me. He
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almost taught me to stop striving. It's not like
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I just need to get it together and be this good
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person. Because also, righteousness and that
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process of behaving more and more in the way
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God wants me to and being sanctified is also
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His work in me. But I show up because I love
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Him and that's the natural response to a big
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love gift that He gave me. So I think that was
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an important distinction. I'm not just striving
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to be this good person. He's done that work on
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the cross. He's continuing to do his good work
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in me. But I show up and I live a godly life
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as best I can because I want to, because he loves
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me. And that's how I can respond in love to him.
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Yeah. Yeah. And that's one of those things. Like
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you said, it sounds really simple and it's something
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that we talk about in church a lot, but like
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it is still always such a mind shift thing. happens
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and continues happening. Exactly. Yeah. And I
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think it's something that I thought I understood,
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but I didn't have language for. And I think I
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understand how to articulate it a little better,
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even though I'm rambling a little bit here. It's
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like, righteousness is given to me and sanctification
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is something that God is working in me, but I
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still have to show up and I still have to turn
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to Him. But that's all I have to do. And I don't
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need to strive in the way that I was unconsciously
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doing before. Sure. So I feel relieved and also
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like I'll do a new sense of purpose and all of
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that. So that was good. And I think I just feel
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close with him also because I got to know him
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so well through this trip. Yeah, totally. Totally.
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Yeah. I mean, it's God is cool. So cool. So cool.
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Just like the way that God chooses to work in
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us and through us. Yeah. Right. That that. Yeah.
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Like you said, God doesn't... We don't do these
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things because God needs us to do these things.
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And God could do the things in the world without
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us. Yes, He could. Right? God doesn't need me
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to be a good person in order for there to be
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goodness in the world. There's goodness in the
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world because God. Yeah, and He'll make it happen.
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Right? But God chooses to express some of that
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goodness through my life. Exactly, yeah. And
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we get to partner with Him in that way. And also
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that's the only life that there is, like partnering
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with God in the restoration of His whole creation
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and doing His will. There's just nothing really
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outside of that. It's a huge privilege to get
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to partner with Him in ministry. And I think
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it was even that moment in that church service
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in Egypt where they preached a service on repentance.
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That is asked of us, like Jesus. says, like,
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repent for the kingdom of heaven is near, like
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that's Jesus preaching the gospel. And so the
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kingdom of heaven is near because of what Jesus
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did. And we get a choice, like we get to turn
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to him and we get to listen to him and we get
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to submit to him and and obey him. And those
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are strong words. But but like, but he's he's
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love and and everything he does is good. And
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it's for our good. And it's for the good of creation.
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It doesn't mean like what he asks of us is easy.
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It's usually difficult, but. But his way is the
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only way to living. So it's yeah, it's yeah,
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we get to do things his way and we get to be
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part of redeeming his creation and doing things
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right. Doing things his way is just a privilege.
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Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it
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sounds like it was this really. life changing
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kind of experience, I would say. It was. And
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I'll say again, like it was amazing to get to
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go there and have these experiences and be close
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with God in the spaces where Jesus was. But that
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just happens when you're in scripture. Like that's
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always going to happen if we choose to steep
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ourselves in scripture and be formed by it and
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meditate on it day and night and let it speak
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to us instead of trying to read into it what
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we want to. Like it's going to change us and
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it's going to change us for the better. And that's
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how God speaks to his people. Yeah, yeah, God
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was with you in one kind of way during this three
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month journey. But God is still with you. God
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is still with us. And God is still speaking.
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Absolutely. Here, there, wherever we find ourselves.
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Yeah. And it's easy after you have these big
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trip experiences to kind of come down off of
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it. Like you're kind of like riding a hive and
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experience and you come back and you're like,
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ah, like things feel ordinary. And I'm not like
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having these crazy adventures and like going
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to the pyramids and like, you know, and I'm not
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like doing that every day. And I want to feel
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like I'm living on mission with God. But if you
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truly repent and humble yourself before Him every
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day and just like ask God, what are you doing
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and how can I join you? You're on that adventure
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every single day. And if you choose to seek Him
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in His Word, He will show up every day, like
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wherever you are doesn't matter. And that was
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an important message that I received too about
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repentance is like, that's where the life is.
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It's not like in... Egypt and Israel, and it's
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not in YWAM. Right. It's in the turning towards
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God. Exactly. Yeah, it's he's just everything.
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He's just what we're looking for him. So I'm
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more convinced of that than ever, I think, after
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this trip. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Thank
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you so much, Megan. Yeah. Thank you for asking.
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Yeah, no, it's. Like I said, it's been really
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good to sort of hear about this experience and
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I'm excited for this next season for you as you
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get to share some of these learnings, especially
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with the kids here at Trinity, but then also
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like. And you're leading this core sort of segment
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of our church, right? I think he filters up in
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some way on just what happens in kids' church.
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Totally. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I love the kids.
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They're everything. I'm so excited to share it
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with them. And they're smart. They ask good questions.
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So I'm glad I did this school so I can keep up
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with them and give them some more answers. Totally.
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Yeah. No, that's awesome. Well, thank you so
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much. And thank you for tuning in to this week's
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episode of Trinity Talks. Wherever in the world
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you find yourself, I hope that you can take some
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time to turn towards God and have God meet you
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there in the very real circumstances of our lives
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and in this gift of scripture that God has given
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to us. And we'll see you next week.