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  1. Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode

  2. of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla and I am so

  3. excited to be joined here by three folks who

  4. are part of our Trinity family. And we're going

  5. to be talking a little bit more about creation

  6. care, about what it means to care for our earth,

  7. why any of that matters, and what it actually

  8. has to do with Jesus at all. Because sometimes

  9. we think of those as very separate things, but

  10. hopefully throughout the course of this conversation

  11. we'll sort of dive into some connections between

  12. those things. So thank you so much for joining

  13. me, folks. Good morning. Yeah. So maybe I'll

  14. just get you to start by introducing yourself,

  15. saying your name, and a little bit about some

  16. of the ways that you have been involved in caring

  17. for the earth. Do you want to start us off? Sure.

  18. Good morning. My name is Diana Gomez. I have

  19. been coming to Trinity for about a year. Okay.

  20. Lived in Mississauga for a decade. So my latest

  21. role, I've joined the Credit Valley Conservation

  22. Foundation. And so I work very closely with CBC,

  23. the authority, to engage and rally the community.

  24. So that's a little bit about me. Okay, great.

  25. Thank you. So hi, my name is Mia. I'm still in

  26. high school, so I don't have much job experience

  27. yet. That's okay. But to me, I think some ways

  28. that I'm currently helping out in my community.

  29. Right now is, I'll talk about more of this later,

  30. but I started a nonprofit where basically you

  31. just go around, we interview different people

  32. of, I guess, different careers. And one of the

  33. things we did earlier was a conservation series.

  34. So we were able to reach out to people that I

  35. mentioned that have careers in, I guess, conservation

  36. sustainability. And we did that kind of as an

  37. initiative for Earth Day a while ago. So that's

  38. one thing I do. I guess outside of that, maybe

  39. just like my usual like recycling things that

  40. I guess. Yeah. I'm just thinking of now, but

  41. that's just about me. Yeah, no, that's awesome.

  42. Thanks. My name's Adrienne. I've been here, I

  43. think, three -ish years now. I have done mostly

  44. volunteering in this space, I guess. So Girl

  45. Guides, huge emphasis on Earth stuff. And then

  46. I work with a charity where we're giving. um,

  47. gently used prom wear to high school kids for

  48. free who might need an appeal. I work with a,

  49. um, a menstrual charity that provides sustainable

  50. solutions to around the world. And then I also

  51. ran for the green party in the last election.

  52. So yeah, lots of different little things. Yeah.

  53. But all sort of bring this one theme together.

  54. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay. So what prompted

  55. you to want to like get involved in that work?

  56. Why? care about the earth? Why? Like, what sort

  57. of prompted you to want to do that? That's an

  58. excellent question. I think for me, I've always

  59. worked in social causes. Sure. So I came to Canada

  60. when I was seven years old, and I actually got

  61. help from the Salvation Army at that time. My

  62. mom needed some help. And so I felt for me, it

  63. was a great moment to continue to give back somehow.

  64. So I really wanted to work in the not for profit

  65. sector. And worked in, you know, food banks and

  66. hospital foundations, humanitarian NGOs, international

  67. work there. And then I moved over to the conservation.

  68. I think from the very beginning, I felt we live

  69. in a wonderful place here in Mississauga. You

  70. have access to so many trail systems and green

  71. spaces. And I was always out with my children,

  72. naturally enjoying them. Being able to work very

  73. close to home and understanding more about how

  74. to protect these green spaces was very important

  75. to me as an example, even to my own family. Right.

  76. And what are we doing every day? These acts of

  77. care to take care of nature. So for me, it's

  78. been. why I've transitioned. And I'm not going

  79. to lie to you, the perks of being seven minutes

  80. from home was very, very a big negotiating factor,

  81. but I'm really enjoying it. And I'm actually

  82. learning quite a lot. I think that I have more

  83. respect for nature and our green spaces and the

  84. work that the authority is doing every day, because

  85. now I'm embedded into the process internally.

  86. Yeah. Yeah. I think like that, like. like you

  87. said living in a space that has lots of access

  88. to trails and green spaces i think that does

  89. influence the way that you think about the earth

  90. right yeah that you get to be out in it that's

  91. right yeah yeah what about for you mia i think

  92. for me now that i'm thinking about it i feel

  93. like at school even in like middle school when

  94. i was in grade maybe seven or eight we were kind

  95. of taught a little bit about Just like our ecosystem,

  96. how it's being affected by. I know climate change

  97. was a big factor in some of my science classes

  98. and still is today. So there in middle school,

  99. I had, I think, like a green team. I think that's

  100. what it's called. Sure. And one of the things

  101. we did was we go around kind of to these like

  102. conferences. I guess you learned about conservation.

  103. You learned about how to sustain the earth. I

  104. guess that kind of maybe like lit an interest

  105. in me, something that I was always interested.

  106. I was like, that's pretty cool. I see how this

  107. would affect us. I think also for some high schoolers

  108. my age too, I think it's also a pretty big part

  109. of our lives. We're taught not to throw litter

  110. on the ground. We're taught how to recycle. That's

  111. another thing at school. So with that in mind,

  112. I guess I'll talk more about the nonprofit. So

  113. that came to me when I was in maybe 2023. So

  114. when I was in grade 9 or so. And one of the first

  115. things we ever did was we were getting answers

  116. to our questions. It's kind of hard, I guess,

  117. for youth. to get answers to maybe questions

  118. that we had and we had a lot of questions about

  119. conservation about climate change about how do

  120. we do this like how is this affecting us but

  121. not really like the net like right platform or

  122. the resources to be able to ask that so me my

  123. co -founder who lives in california we were like

  124. that's something we would definitely want to

  125. reach out about. And our audience was mainly

  126. teenagers like myself. So what we ended up doing

  127. was we would basically, our first series ever,

  128. as I mentioned, was a conservation series. We

  129. managed to reach out to two people from the UN

  130. and from their division of OCHA, which is like

  131. the humanitarian relief, I think, sector. And

  132. we basically asked them a series of questions

  133. that I honestly wanted to know the answers to,

  134. but... hadn't been able to get anyone to know

  135. like how does like humanitarian work how does

  136. the UN work at all what are you guys doing very

  137. cool right so that was something and I guess

  138. once I got answers from them I realized this

  139. is definitely something that I kind of want to

  140. I don't say pursue but something I want to definitely

  141. know more about how obviously as I'm going to

  142. be I know it's kind of I don't know how to say

  143. it, kind of cringy, but how like the next generation

  144. is going to be the one on this earth. Because

  145. we're always mentioned by our teachers. That

  146. was something I guess I was always like, oh,

  147. I have to keep that in mind. I have to learn

  148. so much more about, I guess, our earth. And I

  149. want to share all this knowledge that I get with

  150. kind of people of my generation. So that was

  151. something that I guess my mindset was coming

  152. into today and still is of today. More recently.

  153. what i've been doing is after conservation series

  154. i was reaching out to basically everyone i was

  155. like hey i've had my name is mia i have so many

  156. questions for you is there time that i could

  157. ask though yeah we got to chat to some people

  158. really wonderful people from the canadian wildlife

  159. federation and to be honest um when you're in

  160. school i know there's this course in grade 10

  161. you take which is called careers and you get

  162. to learn about everyone's careers something i

  163. never learned about was careers in kind of the

  164. environment or like humanitarian that was something

  165. that was just never considered i had no idea

  166. and i still kind of don't but i had no idea what

  167. you and like people do like these different sectors

  168. right and so through these um asking people for

  169. jobs i was also kind of i guess opening my eyes

  170. to a whole another level which i feel like is

  171. something i don't usually get to do or people

  172. my age usually don't get to do so i guess that

  173. was just one of the main like reasons why i feel

  174. like i've broadened my view on the world and

  175. being more interested in conservation efforts

  176. into our ecosystem. Sure. Yeah, that's really

  177. cool. It's like coming from this place of like

  178. curiosity and like being like, OK, if I'm going

  179. to be a person in the world, I want to like understand

  180. how it works and like how I can contribute to

  181. that. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. What about

  182. for you, Adrienne? For me, it probably started

  183. with school, like in our young years. And I'm

  184. from like rural Nova Scotia. So it wasn't like

  185. seeing pollution and seeing all this stuff. It

  186. was kind of new, like recycling was new. I'm

  187. old enough that recycling was new. They really

  188. we would do like trips and we would do all these

  189. like appreciation type things and cleanups and

  190. stuff. So for me, it started young and it kind

  191. of carried through. And then my family is kind

  192. of the same. So it was just kind of embedded

  193. in there early and then just carried on. Yeah.

  194. Yeah. So when you think about sort of. your faith

  195. and how that connects with this idea of like

  196. caring for the earth like what what connections

  197. do you see are there ways that you know caring

  198. for the world has impacted your faith in some

  199. way or vice versa yeah sure for me i also like

  200. earth is amazing and created i know that I'm

  201. going to say it's in Genesis. I'm going to pull

  202. out here. It talks about tending to the earth.

  203. But it's also for me linked to humanity. Like

  204. we live on this earth. We live on it together.

  205. It's caring for it affects everybody. And I think

  206. that people have a very isolated sometimes view

  207. of like what their impact can be. But yeah. And

  208. like the whole, I mean, it's coming a lot more

  209. recently about climate change being such a threat

  210. multiplier. Right. And how it's going to displace

  211. people. poor people are impacted the most by

  212. all of this change. So for me, even people that

  213. I have a tougher time, maybe selling the environmental

  214. part on it's the humanity part of it as well.

  215. Like they're so intertwined. And I think when

  216. people remember that it's, it's motivating. Yeah.

  217. Yeah. I remember like when I, I also sort of

  218. started. from a sort of humanitarian lens in

  219. this was like, okay, I care about people and

  220. I care about like, you know, making sure that

  221. there's, there's justice and fair treatment and

  222. all of these things. And I was like, you know,

  223. the earth is. Cool. Yeah. But yeah, then to be

  224. able to see it as like, yeah, this threat multiplier,

  225. this like thing that if we aren't taking seriously

  226. our job to care for the world, then we're like

  227. actually not caring for our neighbor very well

  228. either. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I agree there.

  229. I just want to say that I really appreciate hearing

  230. your perspective on how you feel you didn't have

  231. enough information. as a youth. And I think the

  232. role of the foundation at the Crowley Valley

  233. Conservation Foundation is to educate and inspire

  234. not only youth, but all individuals. And I think

  235. I like to hear that because it's a really important

  236. element of my program to incorporate information

  237. for youth to get involved. And as you said, you...

  238. Youth are the next generation of stewards. And

  239. so how are we educating them and building up

  240. to carry the torch? Yeah. Right. To take care

  241. of these green spaces, to do the everyday acts

  242. like we talked about recycling and anything around

  243. our neighborhood. So I think that that's significantly

  244. important. And just to go back on the Bible verse

  245. that you mentioned, it's I think it's in Genesis

  246. chapter two, where the Lord says, the Lord God

  247. took man into the Garden of Eden to work. Work

  248. it and care of it. And so that's where I think

  249. it's a really important element to say it is

  250. about, you know, us being entrusted with something.

  251. And I look at the creation. If God was so intentful

  252. in creating, I mean, when I walk around and I

  253. see just the detail on the leaf, I take a look

  254. at how intentful and purposeful he was in creating

  255. all of these. green spaces, all of the life that

  256. thrives, including us, right? So we don't protect

  257. our green spaces. It's what sustains us all.

  258. And I think making that connection is really

  259. important. God calls us to action out our faith,

  260. right? And I remember this in the 90s, I was

  261. a fan of this artist. His name was Ricardo Arjona.

  262. He talked, in a song, he mentioned Jesus. And

  263. he said, Jesus is not a noun. Jesus is a verb.

  264. And so I look at that and say, if Jesus and God

  265. created this beautiful thing for us. He only

  266. expects us to protect it. And if we love our

  267. neighbors like ourselves, why wouldn't we love

  268. the spaces they live in and take care of those

  269. and protect those? So I think it is a sense of

  270. responsibility for all of us to take care of

  271. the creation of Earth because it really is our

  272. heart and our lungs. And I think if we look at

  273. it that way. Every little act that we do from

  274. recycling to planting trees to just taking care

  275. of it. These are all acts that we're responsible

  276. for. I think it's not a task. I think it's a

  277. responsibility for all of us to do something

  278. that will, again, pass the torch to future generations.

  279. I know I'm getting older when I say this and

  280. I say, well, we're here. We're temporary here.

  281. Yeah. We're not here forever. Our home is temporary.

  282. But who comes next, whether it's our family,

  283. our grandchildren or our neighbors, we want to

  284. leave a legacy behind that they can also enjoy.

  285. Yeah. Right. So I look at that as connections

  286. to my everyday work. And I love to hear different

  287. perspectives because it makes me. appreciate

  288. that we have to do this work it's important work

  289. to tell youth and individuals and us as residents

  290. of where we live yeah that we have responsibilities

  291. attached to the spaces we use yeah right yeah

  292. yeah for sure i think that's like a really interesting

  293. point i feel like once you realize There is also

  294. a Bible verse that I want to bring up from Psalm

  295. instead, though. Psalm 24, where it's like, the

  296. earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof,

  297. the world and those who dwell within, right?

  298. Thank you. So I feel like what you were mentioning

  299. earlier, and especially what you said earlier

  300. with the love thy neighbor thing, if... god or

  301. jesus thinks of this world i guess as his own

  302. and as therefore you're kind of like i don't

  303. want to say required but there's you have that

  304. responsibility in a that's oh i should be taking

  305. care of this world it was given to me it was

  306. um i guess all these like gifts of nature that

  307. were given to me like as you mentioned when you

  308. were working on like the credit river which is

  309. something i always thought was really cool or

  310. just like when you're recycling just these little

  311. things that kind of i guess add up so we're making

  312. sure that we're all like doing our own part just

  313. as jesus would have wanted us to i just thought

  314. that was kind of i like i like that i feel like

  315. that's like a very good kind of way of thinking

  316. about conservation so it's kind of like simplified

  317. but it's in a way that you're like oh i know

  318. i'm doing this for a good purpose right yeah

  319. Yeah. And I think like all of these things sort

  320. of remind me, I think sometimes we think that

  321. like faith really has nothing to do with the

  322. world, right? We think like faith is all about

  323. coming to church and talking about spiritual

  324. things. And that's like super important, obviously.

  325. But also we're embodied people who live in a

  326. body in a world, right? And so God cares about

  327. our bodies. God cares about our world, right?

  328. That's right. And we're part of creation. We're

  329. part of creation. We're not separate from it.

  330. Yeah. We're part of it. And we have to do something

  331. within it. Yeah. So I think that that's what

  332. it comes down to. That we're all connected. It's

  333. connected relationship with God. But if you love

  334. God, you take care of what he's created. Right.

  335. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that piece

  336. that you just said that we are part of creation.

  337. I think that's something that's easy for us to

  338. forget sometimes because God creates humanity

  339. and God says, OK. have dominion over it like

  340. take care of it but at no point does god say

  341. you are god yeah god is above creation god sets

  342. the rules we are still part of this world that

  343. god has made and so we have a role yes to take

  344. care of it but to take care of it as part of

  345. it that's right yeah yeah yeah for sure um so

  346. Are there any ways that like when you think about,

  347. you know, doing this work of caring for the earth,

  348. are there any ways that that doing that work

  349. has like taught you something about God or helped

  350. to like enrich your faith in some way? I walk

  351. my neighborhood very differently now. Like I

  352. think working with the conservation, which has

  353. taught me quite a lot in terms of what they do,

  354. we work. Well, they work summer, winter. They're

  355. checking our river systems, making sure that

  356. our drinking water is still healthy. If something

  357. reaches the water, like we will know right away

  358. because we are constantly monitoring. Sure. I

  359. say we because we're a team, but CVC does that.

  360. I won't take credit for their job, but the foundation

  361. gets to educate people about that work. Right.

  362. And so. Now learning all of these aspects of

  363. what an authority does, for me, it's been quite

  364. a grounding experience because when I walk my

  365. neighborhood in the trails, which is the Credit

  366. Valley Trail, actually will. The vision will

  367. be right behind us. That vision starts. So the

  368. river starts in Port Credit and it goes all the

  369. way up to Orangeville. So CVC is actually working

  370. towards building one trail system. It's going

  371. to be 100 kilometers accessible to all of us.

  372. Wow. And by that, I mean, whether you are walking

  373. or you need special assistance, like the trail

  374. system is being built so that everyone enjoys

  375. it. Understanding all of these aspects, indigenous

  376. culture and heritage and how we're making the

  377. Credit River system into an outdoor classroom,

  378. getting more youth out. Right. Knowing that I

  379. didn't know that we had 13 over 1300 plants of

  380. plant species in this area. Wow. We have very

  381. unique snakes, salamanders, frogs, birds and.

  382. Unlike any other place in Canada. And so to know

  383. that and to learn that makes me appreciate every

  384. time I have a walk. Sure. I look at nature differently.

  385. Yeah. We're very unique in this area. We have

  386. lots of natural resources. And like, why wouldn't

  387. I want to take care of it? So I do have a different

  388. lens now as I thank God for what he's created

  389. because such unique spaces, but also as a responsibility

  390. to say, you know what, we have to. do something

  391. about this if we want to maintain these wonderful

  392. assets for us. Because personally, in my life,

  393. nature has always been there to provide healing.

  394. Like in my toughest times of life, I go for a

  395. walk and I sit in solitude in nature and I talk

  396. to God and I see his creation. And so nature

  397. is doing its job for us. And we have a responsibility

  398. to do a job to protect it as well. Yeah, yeah,

  399. for sure. I really like that. Recently, so around

  400. last year, I got a job at the city. I was doing...

  401. um skate patrolling basically you know um celebration

  402. square i would just be there i'd be watching

  403. people skate me that's literally my job just

  404. patrolling the rink and one thing that i didn't

  405. really was realized was required in the job was

  406. we would have to pick up so much trash around

  407. the area so what happened was before i got there

  408. like right after school when i got there we would

  409. try to empty out oh right empty out the trash

  410. bins and there's so many of them and i and kind

  411. of also what we had to do which i've never done

  412. before is they just take those bins and you have

  413. like those scoopers you go around you scoop up

  414. all the trash that people leave on the table

  415. on the rink and originally i thought wow like

  416. this is so much work i'm not like fulfilled i

  417. don't like doing this like it's kind of an aspect

  418. of my job i guess i'll tolerate it but sure it's

  419. not really interesting to me but then again i

  420. guess as um sorry as you said earlier i thought

  421. i guess if i changed my mindset and i thought

  422. about oh how all like i'm kind of doing like

  423. jesus a favor in a way i'm kind of doing as he

  424. wanted me to do right i'm picking up all this

  425. trash i'm helping take care of our earth and

  426. even if other people don't do it that's okay

  427. because i guess it is kind of my responsibility

  428. in a way to make sure like this space is maintained

  429. and i always after i thought about that i would

  430. actually start not necessarily like looking forward

  431. to but i would enjoy kind of taking like trash

  432. i would just like walk around i would um do the

  433. benches and it was like 11 like in the night

  434. so no one would be around sure and i'd be like

  435. wow i'm doing i really feel good doing this in

  436. a way i feel like um i feel like i'm doing my

  437. part i feel like this is what um kind of is inspiring

  438. motivates me even though i might not not necessarily

  439. have really enjoyed it And then on my last day,

  440. it's a seasonal job. So it was from, I guess,

  441. December to March. So actually really recently,

  442. on my last day, one of the supervisors, they

  443. kind of just loaded all of the workers on the

  444. last day. And we just got into, it's kind of

  445. like, of course I don't know what they are, but

  446. they just drive around. And we went to these

  447. different like parks of the city. So Korea down,

  448. it's like the Japanese park. And we were there

  449. and we were just picking up trash. And I was

  450. there and it was a pretty cold day. So there's

  451. a lot of snow. I didn't expect to see any animals

  452. or anybody. But there were these little groups

  453. of like kids. they were looking at the ducks

  454. at korea and we were just walking by and and

  455. i guess it was around this time that the trees

  456. and we were also blooming like really cherry

  457. blossoms yeah i was really surprised too because

  458. it was so early yeah and i just thought about

  459. that and i was picking up the trash and i'm really

  460. like helping make this place beautiful i feel

  461. like and i felt really like good i feel like

  462. that's um maybe and like you change your mindset

  463. on the things that you're doing sure right and

  464. you change your outlook like you mentioned earlier

  465. Um, I feel like that kind of makes like a world

  466. of difference for me. And that's what happened

  467. to me. I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

  468. there's like this verse in the Bible that talks

  469. about, you know, whatever you do, do it like

  470. for the glory of God. So whatever you're doing

  471. while you're picking up trash, you're picking

  472. up trash, like for the glory of God. Right. Like

  473. that. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. What about

  474. for you? What would you sort of add to that?

  475. I've lost track of the original question. The

  476. original question was, are there any ways that

  477. sort of caring for the earth and doing some of

  478. this work has enriched your faith or helped your

  479. understanding of God in some way? For me, it

  480. would be more like when I come to church, I really

  481. appreciate the community part of Christianity.

  482. When I'm out in creation, when I'm out in the

  483. world, when I'm out in nature, I really appreciate

  484. the wonder and the spectacle of it all, right?

  485. The creativity. So for me, it's just another

  486. kind of facet of the whole part of being. Sure.

  487. In the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And

  488. I think, like, Diana, when you were talking about,

  489. you know, the different species of, like, salamanders

  490. and frogs and all of these different things,

  491. like, that's super cool. And I think, like, just

  492. so interesting to think, like, God... made each

  493. of them. And God was like, you know what you

  494. need? You need 13 species of salamanders because

  495. that somehow expresses more of who God is than

  496. one species of salamander possibly could. Right.

  497. Like that's super cool. Yeah. When I think of

  498. God, like, you know, we, we look at ourselves

  499. like we're really smart people, all of us. Right.

  500. But when you think of the IQ of God to create

  501. All these plants, like when you look at roses

  502. and you look at all the little details, the leaves,

  503. like you said, the snakes, anything around nature,

  504. everything has such detail that I'm like, I could

  505. never even reach a little inch of that creativity.

  506. And so God was so thoughtful in what he created.

  507. And if we love him, it's just we have to take

  508. care of his creation and us included. Yeah, yeah,

  509. for sure. um so i think sometimes when we think

  510. about you know caring for the earth it's really

  511. easy to get discouraged it's really easy for

  512. us to think okay there's especially you know

  513. when you watch the news and you see all of the

  514. bad things that are happening and you're like

  515. this feels like pushing a boulder up a hill and

  516. actually the boulder's just rolling back down

  517. on top of me sometimes it feels that way um So

  518. in the midst of all of that, are there any pieces

  519. that are like giving you hope right now? That

  520. when you like look at it or think about it, you're

  521. like, oh, actually, this is a really good news

  522. story in the midst of all that's challenging.

  523. I could tell you right away, it just jumps out

  524. at me, all of us here. I am so inspired by hearing

  525. what we all do and how we all feel. So, you know,

  526. when you mentioned hope in humanity, this is

  527. it. Like I see hope in you and all of us because

  528. we. We understand that God created this and we

  529. want to please him and we want to take care of

  530. his creation. So what we do in our everyday lives

  531. will be just that. And so as we are light, as

  532. we are working and doing his work around our

  533. own every day, I think we're naturally going

  534. to be that glue, that information. Like now you're

  535. going to look at your friends and you're going

  536. to tell them quite differently. Right. And so

  537. I think if we're all actioning, that gives me

  538. optimism. That gives me hope in that we can do

  539. this. Like we can talk about this. We can educate

  540. each other. And everybody can contribute in so

  541. many different ways that, again, goes back to

  542. taking care of creation. So I feel inspired when

  543. I hear that we are all thinking that we want

  544. to please God and take care of his creation.

  545. And so we get to go out and. And tell others.

  546. Right. And that I think it's how we live out

  547. our faith. It's action driven. Right. And so

  548. that inspires me. Yeah. That's good. I think

  549. also besides, I guess, like. in real life things

  550. another thing i just feel like i know you're

  551. mentioning news stories but all media in general

  552. like sometimes i know a lot of people like it

  553. will gain a lot of traction these these videos

  554. i guess of nature um just be posted out randomly

  555. i guess like on like on social media platforms

  556. or videos of like cute baby animals like you

  557. mentioned like all those different species and

  558. i guess one thing that does really foster in

  559. people i know like it fostered me and my friends

  560. it was just like the sense of a curiosity you

  561. see this initial like thing like maybe you see

  562. like a beautiful like waterfall and you're just

  563. like wow this is great but then maybe you'll

  564. get to wonder like how do we like sustain these

  565. how do these come to be right so through like

  566. the media through like guests like this rapidly

  567. like spreading like social media channels where

  568. everybody can see anything it's good to see both

  569. the good and also the bad that will also be posted

  570. right um because i know that is also kind of

  571. prevalent too just like i guess like you know

  572. landfills like all these oil spills that also

  573. do get posted on this side i know there's like

  574. a certain like group or like certain channel

  575. that is pretty popular that does these like side

  576. -by -sides like look at how beautiful the earth

  577. is and look what we're doing to it i feel like

  578. those kind of videos and the media in general

  579. with the articles which i know um aren't necessarily

  580. as well like much read as like the videos would

  581. be sure they're still like really important i

  582. feel like these um are helping i can only speak

  583. for my generation but through these i know people

  584. who've seen these and decided oh wow like is

  585. there something i can do about this i don't want

  586. this to happen is there something like do i need

  587. to change something do i need to talk to people

  588. do i need to like spread the word um i can give

  589. like i guess a personal example one of my friends

  590. she was i honestly this was um way before i got

  591. very interested into this was like way back in

  592. like grade six um but she was um she saw a video

  593. where it was like these animals i think were

  594. or like the polar bears that were losing their

  595. iceberg like icebergs and she just thought to

  596. herself she's telling us she was like this is

  597. something i wish i really could help out with

  598. so then fast forward a few years i'm in high

  599. school she's founded i think a little chapter

  600. in her own high school of like an eco school

  601. and she's been asking people to like hey can

  602. we donate um all these kinds of things and we

  603. can bring them in so like recycle which i've

  604. always thought was really like admirable and

  605. to think that it just started because of a simple

  606. video I feel like the media nowadays is doing

  607. really good and also kind of keeping like somebody's

  608. curiosity and also like provoking them try to

  609. act on, which I think is also as important as

  610. us going out in real life and also engaging.

  611. Right. So I guess the media could have been used

  612. in good ways into engage. I know it can be used

  613. in a lot of other bad ways, but I just want to

  614. focus on how I guess how I can like, like encourage

  615. people. Yeah. There's two sides. Yeah. Right.

  616. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it would

  617. probably be when I actually see... On social

  618. media, for sure. Try to get my algorithm to be

  619. a little more positive. But when we've organized

  620. through Girl Guides a shoreline cleanup or tree

  621. planting and how excited people are for it. To

  622. see people doing work with their own hands and

  623. giving up their own time and energy to do that,

  624. that's hopeful. Because it's hard to be like,

  625. I'm going to recycle this can and it's going

  626. to offset that bomb that was just dropped. That's

  627. not how it works, right? But to only control

  628. what you can control and try to get people around

  629. you. involved it's definitely a grassroots thing

  630. and like the environmental um environmentalism

  631. i guess is really grassroots and getting people

  632. around you engaged and in your community and

  633. when people see it it is inspiring it is motivating

  634. um But it is work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For

  635. sure. For sure. So building on that, then, like,

  636. what are some ways that people can do more? If

  637. somebody's like, I don't know where to start

  638. with all of this. Like, what are some sort of

  639. tips that you might offer? I mean, sorry. You

  640. go ahead. I know for, like, myself and my youth,

  641. there's always so many opportunities. I know

  642. it could be hard to look for. But there will

  643. always be kind of an opportunity maybe waiting

  644. for myself. I was recently able to be a part

  645. of like an ambassador, I guess, for CAGIS, which

  646. is like the Canadian Association of Girls in

  647. STEM. And one thing they love to do is they're

  648. very big on, I guess, conservation. And when

  649. I... join this program i didn't realize wow i

  650. would learn so much again about conservation

  651. i know this from like some of my other like fellow

  652. like ambassadors they're like wow we're actually

  653. doing so much one thing they like to do is that

  654. i think billy bishop airport there's always going

  655. to be kind of this like they have like a booth

  656. there every like year on like this national like

  657. girls in science i think fair which always sound

  658. really cool um and then there last year i was

  659. able to volunteer and they had this very cool

  660. science experiment i think it was about there

  661. in some way like look at gravity and how this

  662. like changes and i thought to myself wow like

  663. i didn't realize i guess i didn't realize this

  664. is a way that i could help out and like like

  665. do conservation i just thought always conservation

  666. was like doing my recycling um making sure i'm

  667. not wasting enough water i just thought like

  668. these are simple ways i'm doing enough but i

  669. feel like you can never really be doing um i

  670. guess enough in a way you can be doing You can

  671. always do more, right? So I guess in that sense,

  672. it kind of opened my eyes into these new different

  673. ways. I would say kind of, I know a lot of like

  674. teens my age, the biggest way to get involved

  675. for us is maybe not even through a job, like

  676. just volunteering. Because we obviously need

  677. like the 40 volunteer hours. And a lot of the

  678. school, like some... things that my school promotes

  679. is that if you go out and you kind of do this

  680. like trash cleanup you can get volunteer hours

  681. you know so many people some of my friends were

  682. telling me hey me i just wanted to go do this

  683. like for my hours but then after like two sessions

  684. or something they would still go to these trash

  685. cleanups and i'd be like wow like do you have

  686. your hours or be like yeah i have all my hours

  687. just one like i felt really good about doing

  688. this so i guess like like volunteering really

  689. helped me i realized i'm doing like a lot more

  690. for like my planet also for like jesus i feel

  691. like i'm doing um it's like for a good cause

  692. so I think through this um volunteering I guess

  693. also like spreading the news on like social media

  694. or anywhere like maybe I feel like all of these

  695. ways are very valid for people of my age I can't

  696. speak to I guess any other age but I feel like

  697. I feel like for my age like getting like this

  698. experience earlier on so we kind of know I guess

  699. in the future like these are ways that like we

  700. can help clean the earth more than just like

  701. your usual i guess things that you're taught

  702. in school so going out and like seeking new experiences

  703. new journeys there's always something that i

  704. feel like we should prioritize yeah and i think

  705. you're in a really sort of unique position where

  706. you have all these like volunteer opportunities

  707. yeah and as you're sort of looking ahead to the

  708. future you can be like okay maybe i want a job

  709. that is you know directly conservation related

  710. but even like okay maybe i want a job that's

  711. like not specifically conservation related but

  712. like i could be an engineer or i could be work

  713. in non -profit or like wherever it is that you

  714. want to be and incorporate like conservation

  715. and environmental future so big right yeah i

  716. feel like a lot of people don't realize like

  717. apart from my age i didn't realize like we have

  718. so many careers you have so many experiences

  719. you have so much like to do ahead of you so it's

  720. better to get like your get your experiences

  721. in and I guess go from there. Yeah. That's something

  722. I really enjoy. For sure. Yeah. I would say like

  723. the foundation does offer lots of opportunities

  724. and works with CVC tree plantings, right? We

  725. work with community groups, school groups, corporations

  726. who want to plant trees, who want to tackle invasive

  727. species that we need to do. And then also like

  728. there's opportunities for community cleanups.

  729. So I would say that there's those volunteer components.

  730. We also offer the school hours. But what I've

  731. learned from our CVC team is at least the colleagues

  732. that I've met, they've been there for like decades.

  733. And so you're right about that. They started

  734. as youth who were volunteering and they really

  735. saw something here and they dedicated their entire

  736. careers. to helping conserve these green spaces.

  737. So I see a lot of that. And I do see that a lot

  738. of youth are very social driven. Like you want

  739. to make a change and you want it now. And I think

  740. it's very important how we use social media and

  741. videos to tell the story. I want to share that

  742. the foundation right now is going through its

  743. spring campaign, which is called the Credit Critters.

  744. So we're highlighting all of the life now at

  745. the watershed. And this week's focus is the bumblebee.

  746. OK, so if you go up onto our social media and

  747. look at that video, it's the sweetest little

  748. video you could see. But I think that those were

  749. the educational components start. Right. And,

  750. you know, like getting involved means. Just small

  751. acts. Like sometimes we look at what's happening

  752. around the world and in every area and you look

  753. like, how can I make a change? How can I tackle

  754. this big problem that is beyond me? And I think

  755. we may not be able to do that, but we are able

  756. to do something for our own club, our own area,

  757. our own community, our own family. And so those

  758. small acts. Like you said, they're pleasing to

  759. God because God is not expecting us to solve

  760. the biggest issues. In fact, we're asking help

  761. to help us guide and solve those issues. But

  762. our small acts by cleaning, you know, like taking

  763. care of our backyard, by planting non -invasive

  764. species in your land, or, you know, even CVC

  765. offers help with tree plantings, like native

  766. plant plantings as well. There's a lot of ways

  767. to work with the community, but those small acts

  768. is how we become heroes of conservation. Right.

  769. Like you said, recycling. I tend to see my neighbors

  770. walking the trail and they're always with a little

  771. bag and a little scooper. Right. And I look at

  772. my neighbor specifically. She doesn't want recognition.

  773. She doesn't do this for anyone. She goes out

  774. on her everyday walk to the grocery store and

  775. takes this with her. And then it comes back full.

  776. So I look at that and I'm like, well, what a

  777. blessing there, right? She's doing her part.

  778. And if we all do our part, I think there could

  779. be lots, there could be a huge change, right?

  780. So those small acts and don't feel overwhelmed

  781. by what's happening around the world. Leave it

  782. to God. but do your part. And I think that's

  783. how we make a difference and we see hope in humanity

  784. and us taking care of creation. Yeah, yeah, for

  785. sure. So I totally love all the volunteering

  786. and all absolutely important for me. I'll just

  787. go through like the lazier ways to do it. Which

  788. would be like avoiding fast fashion, right? Like

  789. the constant need to have new things. Technology

  790. is huge. Keep things until they die. Stop getting

  791. new things every year. Like the amount of digital

  792. waste is insane. Buying used items, right? Like

  793. those things actually make your life cheaper,

  794. easier. But they have a huge impact. Like if

  795. you could get a whole movement of people that

  796. are like, okay, you know what? No new phones

  797. for three years. That'd be crazy. Right. Yeah.

  798. Economically, people would hate it, but environmentally,

  799. it would be amazing. Yeah. So I look at the things.

  800. Excuse me. When when I like people are busy.

  801. So volunteering can sometimes be a big ask. Yeah.

  802. So when I'm like, you know what? Just buy three

  803. less things this week or, you know, like stop

  804. buying balloons are a bigger problem for me.

  805. There's certain things, right, where you're like,

  806. why do we still do this? But avoiding those things

  807. and just being cautious consumers and not just

  808. because, you know, to save money, but just to

  809. save the planet. Like the amount of waste that

  810. we produce is absolutely insane. And so if we

  811. could cut down on that, it would be huge. Yeah.

  812. Yeah, for sure. That's true. Very true. I think

  813. the sort of note to end us on is in all of these

  814. things, I think these are all. really important

  815. steps that we can take. And, um, as we're taking

  816. those steps, we're not doing them like, because

  817. we think we can save the planet, right? We're

  818. doing them as faithful acts of worship to God.

  819. And as we trust that God will use all of our

  820. little efforts to have some sort of impact and

  821. that God is ultimately. Over all of it. That's

  822. right. Yeah. We love our world as God loves our

  823. world. Yeah. That's our whole job. That's a good

  824. ending. That's right. Do what you can do. Exactly.

  825. So thank you so much, folks. And thank you for

  826. tuning in to this week's episode of Trinity Talks.

  827. I hope that wherever you are joining us from,

  828. you are able to find some ways to care for your

  829. space, whether that is just by changing your

  830. consuming habits, by volunteering, by just getting

  831. out and enjoying the beauty of creation. I hope.

  832. Find some time to do that this week. And we'll

  833. see you again next week for our next episode

  834. of Trinity Talks. Bye.