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Becoming a Deacon After 35 Years | Trinity Talks Podcast

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  1. Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode

  2. of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla and I am so

  3. glad that you are joining us today and I'm so

  4. glad to be joined by Bill. Hey, Kyla. I'm so

  5. glad to be here. I'm really glad to be anywhere.

  6. Yeah, yes. You had an eventful couple of weeks.

  7. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that?

  8. I certainly can. On June 6, Saturday, June 6,

  9. I was involved in a single vehicle motorcycle

  10. accident, meaning just me and my bike. But I

  11. was on a group charity ride called the Ride for

  12. Dad in Ottawa. And so there were lots of bikes

  13. in front of me and lots of bikes behind me. And

  14. I basically kind of long story short, just failed

  15. to navigate a left curve properly and went onto

  16. the side of the road. And unfortunately, instead

  17. of it being a hard shoulder and me being able

  18. to correct and get back on the road, it was it

  19. was very much a soft shoulder. And it was actually

  20. round river rock that my bike went onto, which

  21. is like riding on marbles. And so as soon as

  22. I as soon as I kind of went off the road a little

  23. bit to try and correct myself and get back. The

  24. bike just slipped out from under me and I knew

  25. that the bike and I were going down hard. So

  26. I had multiple fractures to my left wrist and

  27. my right ankle. I had surgeries to repair the

  28. damage on June 10th and the staff... nurses,

  29. doctors, surgeons at the Ottawa Civic Hospital

  30. were incredible. It was an amazing experience.

  31. It was so well taken care of by the staff there.

  32. And I got visits all through my time there from

  33. friends and people from the ride. The co -chairs

  34. of the ride came and some other people who were

  35. on the ride came to visit me. People I didn't

  36. know that became friends, which was really cool.

  37. And then on June 15th, I was released from the

  38. hospital, discharged, and Natalie came the night

  39. before, and then we rode, not rode, sorry, I'm

  40. not riding any time soon. We drove home on the

  41. 15th, and so I've been home recovering since

  42. then. Okay, yeah. So that's the accident. Yes,

  43. so we're very glad that you're here. We're also

  44. very glad that in about a week and a half, something

  45. really exciting. is happening in your life. You're

  46. being ordained as a deacon. I am right now. Right

  47. now I'm still a dit, a deacon in training, or

  48. a candidate of the diaconate, which is how the

  49. diocese prefers me to refer to myself. They're

  50. not a big fan of dit, but no, maybe it's catching

  51. on. They're warming up to it. But yeah, on Wednesday,

  52. July 8th, 730 p .m. right here at Trinity is

  53. is my ordination service. And I'm just so, I

  54. mean, I can't even begin to express. I'm sure,

  55. Kyla, you're going to hope that I can express

  56. exactly how I feel about that. But it's just

  57. it's just incredible to the culmination of so

  58. many, well, decades of, you know, kind of getting

  59. to this point. And and and, you know, we're planning

  60. this the service now. And it's just I'm just.

  61. It's just amazing the different elements of the

  62. service and how meaningful I'm realizing that

  63. that whole thing is. I mean, it's not just, OK,

  64. let's stamp them, get them done. There's a powerful

  65. meaning throughout the service, in the liturgy,

  66. in the different parts and the roles that people

  67. play to present me to the bishop and all that

  68. kind of stuff. So I'm super pumped. for that.

  69. And it's definitely the end of a journey that

  70. we'll talk about, flesh out a little bit, I'm

  71. guessing. But it's also the beginning of a whole

  72. new journey. So it really is a cruxus or a nexus

  73. for myself personally and for my ministry. Yeah.

  74. So yeah, we want to get into all of the bits

  75. of the story. But before we jump into that, we

  76. probably have some folks who don't actually know

  77. what it means to be a deacon in the Anglican

  78. Church. So you want to explain to us, what is

  79. a deacon? is their job. Sure. Yeah. OK, so we

  80. can do that. Yeah. So there are three ordained

  81. orders in the Anglican Church. OK. Bishop, priest

  82. and deacon. OK. So a priest generally. And these

  83. are generalizations. And we're not getting into

  84. specifics. Their whole role is super big and

  85. stuff. Priest and bishop. But the main role of

  86. the priest is to take care of the members of

  87. the church, members of the congregation. So they're

  88. the shepherd. Church is the flock. Right. And

  89. that's the main role. The bishop, their job is

  90. to take care of a whole bunch of churches in

  91. a geographical area. So the bishop of the diocese

  92. takes care of hundreds of churches. He's responsible

  93. for the administration of those churches. And

  94. then the deacon. Is brought up from within a

  95. parish? Whereas a priest gets ordained and gets

  96. moved from parish to parish over the time of

  97. his or her ministry, right? The deacon is brought

  98. up within the parish is trained and formed through

  99. the diocese But also still connected with his

  100. or her home parish and then and then at the end

  101. of that training and formation process is ordained

  102. in the church for ministry in the community.

  103. And so what that ministry is typically for a

  104. deacon is a couple of two main things. One is

  105. a role within the church to help lead the service.

  106. Not as big of a concern here at Trinity because

  107. there's so many amazing people that do all those

  108. roles. But typical role for a deacon is to read

  109. the gospel, prepare the table, the Eucharist

  110. table for communion, do the prayers, and then

  111. do a dismissal at the end of the service. So

  112. those are like the four key things. And so in

  113. a lot of churches where it's just the priest,

  114. just the minister doing all of it. When they

  115. can bring up a deacon, that helps. They can take

  116. care of like four or five major elements of the

  117. service and just kind of pass so they can share

  118. the work of the service that way. But again,

  119. because here at Trinity, there really isn't any

  120. reason to artificially insert myself any more

  121. than I've already been participating in and meeting

  122. different aspects. I help assist with communion

  123. and and other things, right? So I can continue

  124. to do that. I mean, I might get put on the roster

  125. for reading, which I haven't done for a while,

  126. or on the roster for leading prayers. I'm happy

  127. to do that. But again, I don't want to take the

  128. spot of, you know, the volunteers and ministry

  129. leaders or service leaders that are already helping

  130. out. The dismissal though is something that's

  131. really important to me personally, so I'm hoping

  132. that I might have the opportunity to do that

  133. on a somewhat regular basis, but we're still

  134. working that stuff out. And so that's the inside

  135. of the church stuff. And then we'll get to what

  136. my specific ministry stuff will be when I start

  137. in September. But typically the role of a deacon

  138. inside the church is that. And then the outside

  139. of the church... is looking into the community,

  140. identifying what the needs of the community are,

  141. volunteering themselves in the community, helping

  142. the hungry, the lonely, the sick, the naked,

  143. the stranger, and then also creating a bridge

  144. and encouraging and facilitating the members

  145. of the church. to then also kind of follow his

  146. or her lead. Yep. And serve in the community

  147. as well, either on their own or in groups or

  148. with the deacon or like, you know, or and and

  149. that so that there's a huge service element.

  150. Sure. And in fact, the the root word, Greek word

  151. for deacon, I'm going to butcher the Greek, but

  152. diaconia or diaconis. Something like that. That

  153. is which. which is the word we get for, which

  154. is how we get deacon is to serve. Okay. So it's

  155. that, I mean, it's that, it's that much into

  156. the, is that built into the meaning. Deacon equals

  157. serve. So, I mean, if that's all you remember,

  158. then you get it. So, but the important element

  159. again, is that the role of the deacon differing

  160. from bishop and priest as one of the three. ordained

  161. orders of clergy is that the deacon is outward

  162. facing and is figuring out what the needs are

  163. in the community and trying to facilitate the

  164. members of the church to get out of the pew and

  165. onto the streets. Yeah, so kind of like creating

  166. that bridge between the community and the church

  167. and Facilitating hopefully a two way bridge.

  168. Yeah, exactly. The community can come into the

  169. church and the church can go out into the community

  170. and serve and love and all of those good things.

  171. Yeah. And the community meal here at Trinity

  172. over the last year and a half has been a good

  173. example of that. It is the development of identifying

  174. the needs, figuring out how we could respond

  175. and facilitating members of the church to act,

  176. to serve and then developing a community of people

  177. from both outside of the church that come to

  178. receive the meal and the community and the fellowship.

  179. And then, you know, and we have seen people from

  180. our Community Meal come and become members, attend

  181. worship services, and even become members and

  182. get baptized, which is amazing. Yeah, that's

  183. awesome. Since the start of the Community Meal.

  184. Yeah. So you mentioned earlier, you know, this

  185. journey towards Deaconning, I don't know what

  186. the verb is. Deaconship. Deaconship. Yes, there

  187. we go. The diaconate. Yes. Began decades ago.

  188. So yeah, when did it really start for you? Like

  189. what prompted this? Well, it really goes as far

  190. back as when I was a teen and being mentored

  191. by an Anglican priest named the Reverend Brett

  192. Kane. He took me under his wing and for about

  193. four or five years was a very important mentor

  194. in my life and father figure because my parents

  195. separated and I didn't have a dad or at least

  196. not one very close. And so Brett was my spiritual

  197. mentor, was a father figure and just really helped

  198. me. with a whole bunch of stuff during those

  199. years, right? Everything from learning to drive

  200. to how to behave politely on a date with a girl.

  201. Well, I don't know if I ever figured out how

  202. the shave part, but hopefully he taught me how

  203. to behave properly on dates. I hope so. But also

  204. kind of birthed in me a sense of calling. Uh,

  205. and I mean, Brett saw me as a, as a sonly figure,

  206. like I saw him as a fatherly figure. So he, I'm

  207. guessing wanted me to follow in his footsteps

  208. as well. So he was, so he was definitely encouraging

  209. me to, uh, to ordained ministry and on, and his,

  210. his sense of that was to the priesthood. Um,

  211. and I, and I went to Das and, uh, uh, college

  212. days. That's the, uh, that's the theological

  213. college in Montreal where I grew up. So every

  214. year there would be a Diocesan Day where prospective

  215. students, normally students who are graduating

  216. university, not high school students like me.

  217. So every year for four or five years I went to

  218. the Diocesan Day through my high school years

  219. and was able to explore what that would look

  220. like. And from those days I realized... I didn't

  221. want to be ordained as a priest. I felt that

  222. my calling was more into the community to as

  223. far as outreach, responding to the needs of the

  224. poor and the disadvantaged of our community through

  225. the years. That is that my focus has changed

  226. from youth at risk to hungry families to different

  227. things. Right. But it's always been that focus.

  228. And and I also didn't like the fact that if you're

  229. a priest, then the bishop could move you around

  230. every three years. Sure. And I thought, no, I

  231. want to, I want to, I want to be, I want to be

  232. part of, I want to live. I want to work. I want

  233. to, I want to really root yourself. I want to

  234. ruin myself somewhere. I don't want to think,

  235. okay, well, you know, potentially in three years,

  236. I'm going to have to start over somewhere. So,

  237. you know, I'm not going to do, I'm not going

  238. to dive deep, right? Yeah. So, um, uh, so yeah,

  239. so I, uh, I didn't. I didn't I didn't go to theological

  240. college right after university. I got a job working

  241. in the Christian ministry and and then I eventually

  242. started working at Youngstreet Mission's Evergreen

  243. for a few years and then and then moved to Mississauga

  244. and started up the the Dam Eithropen with my

  245. with my partner. So we co -founded the dam and

  246. ran it for 15 years. But all of that was kind

  247. of my fulfilling my calling to outreach and ministry

  248. to those in need in the community. And during

  249. that time too, I and how I how I can identify

  250. When my calling as a deacon formalized because

  251. I didn't really understand the whole deacon part

  252. of things in Montreal, but when I moved to Mississauga

  253. and got involved with the Diocese of Toronto

  254. I realized that there was there was this thing

  255. called Deacon and and it just seemed to really

  256. fit with my own sense of calling in ministry

  257. and philosophy of ministry and the And so I began

  258. to explore that as an idea through Trinity. And

  259. for a number of reasons, it didn't work out.

  260. I was always told it didn't have anything to

  261. do with me. It was always something else. But

  262. each succession of ministers I would ask and

  263. was turned down and stuff like that. So that's

  264. over a 35 -year period. But I can go back to

  265. when I started my Masters of Theological Studies

  266. at Wycliffe College, which was 94. it for 10

  267. years because I was in full -time ministry at

  268. the time. So it took me 10 years to do my MTS

  269. from 1994 to 2004. And I enrolled in the MTS

  270. program because that educational component was

  271. necessary in the formation process of becoming

  272. a deacon. So I didn't realize that it would take

  273. me 10 years to do it. And then once I got it,

  274. I didn't realize that it would take me another

  275. 20 years before I actually you know, utilized

  276. it in terms of the formation and training to

  277. become to actually officially become a deacon.

  278. Right. So, yeah, thirty five years of being patient.

  279. Yeah. And and actually seven years ago, I gave

  280. it up. Yeah. I I realized after so many years,

  281. I thought maybe it's God is maybe I have this

  282. calling, but maybe. I'm not meant to actually

  283. fulfill it. Maybe I'm or maybe I'm fulfilling

  284. it in what I'm doing without actually without

  285. the ordination without the ordinate. Yeah, without

  286. being, you know, ordained clergy. And and so

  287. I just kind of came to came to terms with that

  288. and said, OK, I guess I'm never going to be a

  289. deacon. And that's when we fostered and adopted

  290. our dog. Yeah. And I named him Deacon. And that

  291. was the rebellious quirk in me. I said, well.

  292. gosh darn it if i'm not going to be a deacon

  293. there's going to be a deacon in my house so i'm

  294. naming my dog deacon and now it's just going

  295. to be confusing at home in a couple in a week

  296. and a half yeah yeah yeah when natalie calls

  297. out deacon for dinner i'm going to come running

  298. and the dog is going to come running well i'm

  299. going to come wheeling or sure at the moment

  300. but But yeah, so that's the process over my calling

  301. or my sense of calling over 35 years and just

  302. feel like number one, I'm a much more patient

  303. person in my whole life because of this process.

  304. And I'm just very thankful for that. And then

  305. there's also the thing of like, don't give up

  306. on your dreams. Sure. And even though I kind

  307. of struggled with that seven years ago. It kind

  308. of feels more like now, you know, if you really

  309. want something, you know, let it go. Yeah. And

  310. if it's meant to happen, it'll come back to you.

  311. And that seems to be what happened to me. So

  312. I think even the letting go part of it was a

  313. helpful part of my process. So it's not this

  314. like chip on my shoulder. You know, why can't

  315. I be a DK? I've been wanting so long. Yeah. You

  316. know, and I just I let that go. And then it came

  317. back to me. I was just like, and I was like,

  318. I still remember the meeting in Rob's office

  319. when I said, I said, I'm not sure if we ever

  320. talked about this, but I've been wanting to be

  321. a deacon for a long time. And for a lot of reasons,

  322. it just wasn't able to happen. And I've asked

  323. each minister as they came and they said no and

  324. blah, blah, blah. And so have we ever had that

  325. conversation? And Rob said, no, we haven't had

  326. that conversation. I said. Would you be willing

  327. to have a conversation with me? I'm going to

  328. start crying and just tell the story. And I asked

  329. him if he'd be interested in engaging in that

  330. conversation. He said, Bill, if that's your calling,

  331. I think that would be incredible. I think we

  332. definitely should investigate this, right? I

  333. mean, it wasn't like, yes, let's make it happen.

  334. It was like, let's figure out what the start

  335. of the process is and let's talk about it. And

  336. I just immediately, I just like. faucet water

  337. like I'm just crying after 30 plus years of being

  338. turned away and not and not fulfilling my calling

  339. just the idea that it could eventually happen

  340. was just so amazing yeah and so that was the

  341. start nine months it took nine months to officially

  342. enter into the training formation process. And

  343. that process is a minimum of two years. And for

  344. me, because I had done my educational part, my

  345. MTS years ago, I was able to go through the formation

  346. process in that minimum of two years. And just

  347. last month or thereabouts, the final piece was

  348. to be approved by the College of Bishops for

  349. ordination. And that happened. And then we started

  350. planning the service. Now, here we are. Yeah.

  351. Yeah. So cool. And I remember also part of maybe

  352. one of the initial parts of that process was

  353. approval from the congregation. Yes. Right. We

  354. had a vestry meeting and you sort of stood up

  355. and said, OK, this is the dream that I have.

  356. And I was at that meeting. And I remember folks

  357. being like, well, if this is Bill's dream and.

  358. This so clearly fits with who we see Bill as,

  359. as a person, right? This fits so clearly with

  360. all of your gifts and the things that you're

  361. already doing. It was like a no brainer, right?

  362. We were all, all on board, you know? Yeah. That's

  363. so amazing. Yeah. And just so excited that like,

  364. yeah, this is a piece that you get to sort of

  365. step into. Yeah. Yeah. And that, and that was

  366. the end of a process in itself because Part of

  367. the discernment process was for me to discern

  368. my calling, which again, you know, through the

  369. decades was that that was that was definitely

  370. there. But the process that we needed to start

  371. or that Rob needed to start was to put a small

  372. group of people together that would discern.

  373. Do we need a deacon in the parish? Sure. Is this

  374. what's right for Trinity? And at first, it wasn't

  375. even attached to my name. Sure. That conversation

  376. happened without, as far as I know, without me,

  377. without my name attached. And then and then when

  378. it's when they said, yes, this would be a valuable

  379. role for for, you know, benefit the church and

  380. our ministry in the community. Then it was said,

  381. OK, well, this is Bill feels a calling to to

  382. be in this role to be brought up through the

  383. through the parish. through Trinity to play that,

  384. to perform that role in the ministry team of

  385. the church. And then it was like, oh yeah, check,

  386. check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the pieces fit so

  387. beautifully. So amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So then

  388. as you step into this new role at Trinity, what

  389. do you sort of anticipate that looking like?

  390. So you talk about, you know, broadly, this is

  391. generally what deacons do, but. Specifically

  392. here, do you have a sense of what you might be

  393. up to? Yeah, we're I mean, we're still putting

  394. together, but but Rob and I have have talked

  395. and I'm assuming Rob's talked with the other

  396. people, the extended ministry team and and leaders

  397. in the church and stuff of how I would fit in.

  398. But so what we've talked about and where he feels

  399. there's a need is is around care and outreach.

  400. So the the particular need is is is is to have

  401. someone as the supporter and booster of all of

  402. our care ministries at Trinity, which, I mean,

  403. to have the opportunity to support. so many ministry

  404. leaders who are so caring and compassionate and

  405. have so many skills and gifts in this area is

  406. just a is just a is just an honor. And my take

  407. on it is not to come in as to direct those those

  408. programs, supervise those people. My my thing

  409. is to let's let's put together a team where we

  410. could support and encourage one another and and

  411. just. And for me, just to be there as their boosters

  412. and just to find out what they need to do, what

  413. they're there to do, and just to provide them

  414. every resource and everything that they need

  415. to get that done. care and outreach coordinator.

  416. One focus will be on the care ministry of the

  417. church. And it's just, I mean, there's so many

  418. incredible things already going on. I'm just

  419. happy to kind of learn and get to know all the

  420. different things. I'm experiencing right now,

  421. for myself, the ministry of the meal train. We're

  422. getting meals brought to an amazing... tasting

  423. great, nutritious meals that are brought that

  424. just just takes a load off for Natalie and I,

  425. primarily Natalie, because I'm sitting on a couch

  426. with my foot up. But the but it's just, you know,

  427. she's working full time here at the church and

  428. then she comes home to take care of me and, you

  429. know, cleaning and cooking and stuff just takes.

  430. I mean, it's stuff that needs to get done. But

  431. I mean, she's spending more of her time taking

  432. care of me than others. Sure. So so, yeah. So

  433. just singling out that one. care ministry of

  434. the church in terms of, you know, experiencing

  435. it now from a recipient, right, has been just

  436. a great learning for me, understanding the incredible

  437. impact that that has on those that are receiving

  438. that ministry, right? And the wonderful volunteers

  439. that put in the time and effort to cook those

  440. meals and get them to the people. And that's

  441. just one example. Yeah, that's one example. So

  442. that's the care side. That's the care part. And

  443. then outreach side. Thank you. Yeah, the outreach

  444. side is, I mean, that's my wheelhouse. Yeah.

  445. All right. So that's been my ministry for 35

  446. years in Christian outreach ministry to to to

  447. address to street youth and then later to address

  448. youth here in Mississauga, Meadowville and Streetsville

  449. and through the dam. and then also caring for

  450. hungry disadvantaged families as the executive

  451. director of a food bank in the western part of

  452. Mississauga. and even care internationally for

  453. people through a short contract I did with World

  454. Vision. So all those experiences, again, kept

  455. me focused on street ministry, on community outreach,

  456. on responding to the needs of families, disadvantaged

  457. families or impoverished families in our community.

  458. And so as a deacon, those are the things that

  459. attract our attention in the community. we look

  460. out for, and I can't get the word exegete out

  461. of my head. Exegete is for the Bible when you're

  462. putting together Bible studies and stuff like

  463. that, but you don't want to have that same level

  464. of depth into the community as you would studying

  465. the Bible to figure out what are the needs, what

  466. is the meaning, what is going on, and then how

  467. can we best help? And then the first thing is

  468. to. I mean, there's generally in any church,

  469. there are a lot of people who have a care and

  470. concern for the community. They just don't know.

  471. what to do. Yeah. Um, and there are, and there

  472. are some, there are a few that are, you know,

  473. are, are, are very content to be in the four

  474. walls of the church or the four walls of their

  475. home. And they're trying not to kind of, uh,

  476. be exposed too much to the evils of the world.

  477. Right. And, uh, and so I wanted to start gently

  478. break people out of that, uh, for those that

  479. are, are, are aware and, and a little, um, anxious

  480. about, uh, you know, what they can do. I want

  481. to be able to, provide some some training and

  482. some encouragement and some options. So yeah

  483. first and foremost as a role model I'm out there

  484. in the community volunteering doing stuff and

  485. then sharing my experiences with the congregation.

  486. The second part is the exhortation part is saying

  487. Hey, guys, lots of opportunities out here. Come

  488. on out and volunteer and serve and, you know,

  489. make a difference in your community. But, you

  490. know, faith into action. Rubber, you know, rubber

  491. on the... Rubber hits the road. Rubber hits the

  492. road. Yes, thank you. Motorcycle imagery. and

  493. just excite the members of our church to want

  494. to serve in the community and help other people.

  495. And then as you say, once you create that bridge,

  496. it's not a one -way bridge. And so often I can

  497. say in terms of how my ministry has kind of panned

  498. out, it's only when you uh, genuinely are able

  499. to show the care and the concern and the love

  500. that you have for others, you know, people that

  501. are outside of the church in the community, uh,

  502. is only when you can, um, uh, and that's usually

  503. shown first by action, right? By showing up to

  504. a community meal and helping to serve a community

  505. meal or, uh, and then later it's, uh, once you've

  506. established relationship, you can do that through,

  507. uh, uh, conversation about, you know, your faith

  508. means to you, inviting them to church, you know,

  509. that kind of stuff. But the best response that

  510. I have realized over the years has been, you

  511. know, You only get a positive response from those

  512. spiritual conversations or for those invitations

  513. to church once you have already proven yourself

  514. to them. Sure. Once you have shown once they

  515. have that human connection first. Exactly. Once

  516. they have realized that it's more than a volunteer

  517. thing or it's more than a job or and that you

  518. actually care. And that you've taken the time

  519. to get to know them and to hear their pain, their

  520. history, their their story that they that what

  521. you then say back to them has has a higher level

  522. of importance to them. Right. So when you're

  523. when you're saying, you know, Jesus helped me

  524. through a bunch of stuff, maybe he can help you.

  525. Yeah. And that rather than them going. you know

  526. forget that they're going oh well if it helped

  527. you yeah right and i know you and i know you

  528. and i trust you yeah yeah and uh same thing with

  529. invitations to church right i mean they're like

  530. and uh but it but if it's but if you have that

  531. relationship with them yeah then then they're

  532. they're gonna think think about it a little bit

  533. more. And so yeah, so it does create that two

  534. -way bridge. So I mean, it would be amazing if

  535. through the ministry, the diagonal ministry that

  536. I'll have starting in the fall, that more people

  537. in the community will come to church. That's

  538. great. I really see that. not as a second goal,

  539. but as a byproduct of the first goal. And the

  540. first goal is to get our butts out there and

  541. to make a positive impact in the lives of people

  542. outside of the church in our community. Yeah,

  543. yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's a beautiful vision.

  544. And I think a vision that you are well. suited

  545. to sort of help us live out, right, between your

  546. gifts. And, you know, I think at one point, Rob

  547. described you as like a really great builder

  548. of teams, right? Yeah. Yeah. That meant a lot

  549. to me when he said that. Yeah. Yeah. But just

  550. someone who is able to sort of rally people together

  551. and get them to understand what we're about and

  552. how to work together. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very, from

  553. the very beginning of my, of my ministry, not

  554. just at Trinity, but my, my whole career in,

  555. in, in Christian ministries and nonprofits and

  556. charities. I've never wanted to do anything alone.

  557. It's always been about building a team. I coordinate

  558. the men's ministry here at Trinity, but I don't

  559. do it alone. I have an amazing team of guys and

  560. they're all in charge of a different men's ministry

  561. program and I have the honor of coordinating

  562. and facilitating them and making sure that they

  563. have all that they need to do to do their role

  564. well. Same thing with the with the community

  565. meal. You know, I was, I was voluntold to do

  566. it when the, thank you, Kayla, for your neighborhood

  567. assessment. And based on that neighborhood assessment,

  568. I was strongly encouraged to take up the, to

  569. put together a community meal for Trinity to

  570. offer to the neighborhood. And I said, okay,

  571. well, I'll put a team together. four, five of

  572. us total and we each play a different role and

  573. each of the members of our community meal team

  574. are spectacular and they make it and they're

  575. a very large part of why the community meal has

  576. been successful for the last year and a half

  577. is the amount of time and effort and true care

  578. and compassion that they put into that role,

  579. whether it's... Oliver, you know, heading up

  580. the cook team and planning all that, or Sylvia

  581. coordinating all the volunteers or Heather doing

  582. the promotion in the community or Pradeep, who's

  583. takes care of all the physical stuff, the setup

  584. and the takedown and stuff. And and, you know,

  585. they're they're they do all their jobs so well

  586. that I just I I some months I struggle to figure

  587. out what I. can do to help. So that but that's

  588. just part of an amazing team. And I'm happy to

  589. I'm happy to continue to, to be their cheerleaders

  590. as and, and that's so much better than than having

  591. to be on top of people and kind of pulling them

  592. struggle with, you know, kicking and screaming

  593. to do what they're doing. So, so, and that I

  594. just hope to replicate that. Yeah, yeah, continue

  595. mobilizing people in those ways, for sure. Yeah,

  596. so as you look ahead to this new role, what are

  597. some of the sort of joys that you anticipate

  598. and what are some of the challenges that you

  599. are anticipating? Well, I just, I can't wait

  600. to get out in the community as a deacon and to

  601. kind of identify what the needs are and where

  602. as a church we can help and respond. And I volunteer

  603. on my own with a number of things in Georgetown,

  604. where Natalie and I live, but also here in Streetsville,

  605. in Mississauga. And more of that will come. you

  606. know, in the fall when I start that part of my

  607. ministry. And so I'm really looking forward to

  608. that. That'll be great. But again, that's...

  609. that's my, that's my wheelhouse, right? I mean,

  610. that's, those are, that's no brainer. That's

  611. the eye close. That's, you know, with my eyes

  612. closed or I was going to say one hand tied by

  613. my back or maybe with a, with a cast on my wrist

  614. and an ankle. No problem. I can, I can do that.

  615. No problem. And the, the, the area that caused

  616. me a little bit of anxiety was the whole, you

  617. know, the whole care, as ministry part of the

  618. pastoral care, the hospital visits and the home

  619. visits. And, and, and I remember, you know, Rob

  620. telling me that this was an area of need for

  621. us to have some leadership in. And I'm like,

  622. you know, Rob, whatever you need, whatever the

  623. church needs, however I can help, you just let

  624. me know, we'll figure it out. And so I was 100

  625. % for it, but in my... in my in my head or like

  626. I'm going oh my god, I hate hospitals and I don't

  627. like icky and and and and they going into people's

  628. houses, you know, I don't know how I feel about

  629. that and and and so yeah, so that whole area

  630. was was was a bit of a question mark for me and

  631. but Even before the accident Natalie helped put

  632. my head at heart at ease because I've owned I'm

  633. a volunteer driver with the local cancer Assistance

  634. program in Georgetown. And so one or two times

  635. a week. I'm picking up cancer patient I'm taking

  636. them to their hospital appointment and and We

  637. spent a lot of time talking on the way there

  638. on our way back and Natalie very wisely. Yes

  639. Aren't those kind of like visits. Yeah, I mean

  640. they're in your car Pastoral care isn't that

  641. pastoral care? Isn't that like a you know a visit

  642. to someone who you need support and encouragement

  643. and I'm like and it kind of hit me like a bag

  644. of rocks Oh, oh, yeah that That that is that's

  645. certainly yeah part of that. They have mm -hmm.

  646. Okay Yeah, and then that helped immediately kind

  647. of reframed my my thinking and stuff But even

  648. then, you know the idea of hanging out in hospitals

  649. or showing, you know visiting someone who's in

  650. the hospital and they're like, you know, they're

  651. in a gown and they're you know, and they've got

  652. a you know, they've got something wrapped up

  653. or they share their leg is something right and

  654. I just like but My experience being in the hospital

  655. has just turned that around 100 % or 360 degrees

  656. or whatever number we're going to use. as a patient,

  657. as a recipient of care, I had a lot of visitors

  658. and an overabundance of visitors. It was so extremely

  659. overwhelming, you know, very positive, not complaining,

  660. but just like kind of over the head kind of abundance

  661. of visitors and care and concern expressed online

  662. and all this kind of stuff. But through that,

  663. What I've said to people is that in that week

  664. or week and a half, I experienced a master class

  665. of pastoral care training. I can't imagine a

  666. better education than lying or sitting in the

  667. hospital bed as a patient receiving. Pastoral

  668. care from people that care about you and and

  669. love you and and and want to check in on you

  670. and And and they're and they come just to spend

  671. some time with you. Yeah, right. They don't have

  672. they don't have any you know, special gift. I

  673. mean, I'm sure they have spiritual gifts that,

  674. that, that there's no secret wisdom. There's

  675. no secret. Yeah. There's no magic spell. Right.

  676. That the, you know, there's no, yeah, there's

  677. no secret. There's no secret knowledge to, you

  678. know, uh, it's just, it's just about showing

  679. up. Yeah. And it's about being present and, uh,

  680. and, and, and being able to convey you know,

  681. your love and concern for that person and and

  682. the and and give them an opportunity to, you

  683. know, kind of share their story or vent their

  684. their issues, their concerns and to pray, pray,

  685. pray with them. Yeah. And I'm like, it seems

  686. so simple. Sure. In my thinking. But before,

  687. it was like this anxiety rising, a raising thing

  688. in my head. And now I'm just like, I know the

  689. value. of a person coming to visit you in the

  690. hospital. Sure. I know the positive impact that

  691. that has in that person's life because it had

  692. that impact for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think,

  693. yeah, it's so sort of it's a God thing. Right.

  694. There's not really a better word. It very much

  695. is a God thing. And I there's a few very specific

  696. God moments throughout this. whole process. I

  697. mean, the accident and, and what, and my learnings,

  698. uh, personal reflections and spiritual reflections.

  699. I mean, first of all, I am just so grateful that,

  700. uh, considering, uh, the accident and the condition,

  701. the bike it was in the bikes are right off. It's

  702. done. Um, and, uh, and people who saw the accident

  703. were very surprised that my only injuries were

  704. multiple fractures to my ankle and wrist. They

  705. thought I would be, you know, they were expecting

  706. far worse. So I am so grateful. And I, I attribute

  707. that to God, who had protected me on the ride.

  708. And I've said to people that he surrounded me

  709. with spiritual bubble wrap. And I just had that

  710. very strong sense of like... uh god going oh

  711. uh bill looks like he's going off the road let's

  712. get him wrapped up uh and and then and then and

  713. then it was like bounce bounce off the bike and

  714. bounce bounce off the ground and then uh and

  715. then and then i was and i didn't i didn't have

  716. the injuries everyone expected and i think that's

  717. a god thing for sure and then uh then definitely

  718. um uh having a sense of uh a renewed or invigorated

  719. sense of pastoral care, you know, and having

  720. that anxiety, God didn't want me to have, it

  721. wasn't his plan for me to have an accident, but

  722. he definitely stepped up when it did happen and

  723. made a lot of good come out of it. For sure.

  724. Pastoral care stuff is part of that. And the

  725. impact that it's going to have in my future ministry

  726. as a deacon is, I mean, I can't even comprehend

  727. at this point. More processing will have to take

  728. place. But I just feel so much more comfortable

  729. with that whole side of it now than I did before.

  730. Yeah, this is a really exciting journey that

  731. you're on, Bill. And I think exciting for you,

  732. but exciting for our church family and all of

  733. the different things that we're going to get

  734. to see you do. Yeah, so you're getting ordained

  735. July 8th, 730. So folks are watching. I think

  736. we're going to be live streaming that service

  737. as well. So you can watch on YouTube or, of course,

  738. join us here in person. We'd love to have you

  739. support us, support Bill as he steps into this

  740. new ministry. And of course, we will continue

  741. praying for you well beyond that day as well.

  742. Bill, there's also one very special part of this

  743. Deacon job that you are particularly fond of,

  744. which is our closing blessing. So do you want

  745. to close us out with a Deaconly blessing? Sure.

  746. First of all, I have to make sure I remember

  747. it. And then do you want me to look into a particular

  748. camera? Yeah, go right ahead. All right. So,

  749. followers of Jesus Christ, inspired by the Holy

  750. Spirit, go and serve the world God loves. Amen.