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FIT Conference 2025: What Does Inclusion REALLY Mean?

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  1. We're going to be on the 1st lesson.

  2. It is a group session called What does Inclusion Mean?

  3. And so as those are getting passed out, you can go right to

  4. the group session in the front. You also find in the booklet

  5. some your conference schedule as well as a little bit about us,

  6. some of the books that we have. We'll talk about those later.

  7. Places to eat for lunch. As you can see, for us to be

  8. able to serve lunch is a difficulty here because of the

  9. space, the confines of being able to serve it, prepare it,

  10. all of those things. And So what we do is take a

  11. break and there's a Wendy's up the street, there's a Dunkin'

  12. Donuts up the street, there's other places.

  13. That's all in your booklet so that you don't even have to pop

  14. at your GPS. You can just look over the next

  15. few minutes to see what you'd like to do for lunch.

  16. Thank you for understanding that.

  17. But I want our first session to be this this morning.

  18. What does inclusion mean? Now, if you are like me, you

  19. probably hear that word inclusion.

  20. It makes you cringe a little bit.

  21. And that wasn't always the way. I feel like when we started our

  22. special needs journey years ago, the term inclusion was one that

  23. was used quite a bit and I don't know that we ever thought

  24. anything about it. In fact, the FIT Conference, if

  25. you're curious about the first time you heard about the FIT

  26. Conference, you thought we were exercising or something like

  27. that, that's certainly not the case with all the doughnuts we

  28. have in the back. Amen.

  29. But it is not the big conference is not that kind of conference,

  30. but it is finding inclusion together, finding inclusion

  31. together. But again, if you're like me,

  32. this word inclusion is one that maybe you've become

  33. uncomfortable with over the past few years.

  34. And the whole reason is DEI, diversity, equity and inclusion.

  35. Right there at the top of your page, it says this.

  36. And we have a lot of blanks. So we can make sure that you're

  37. following along, fill those in. If you are following along at

  38. home, you can fill those in as well.

  39. But there's been a great deal of discussion about inclusion over

  40. the past several years due to DEI, diversity, equity and

  41. inclusion. And I try to do a little bit of

  42. research recently about a good working definition of what DEI

  43. is. And I know this will be a

  44. surprise to you, but nobody seems to have a good definition

  45. of it because it seems like it's what whoever the person is

  46. talking about wants it to be is what it is.

  47. And that's, that's kind of the problem, isn't it?

  48. The whole idea What's 1 of many problems with DEI and this is 1

  49. definition that I found this gobbledygook here.

  50. It says DEI includes 3 terms that get to the heart of the

  51. conditions research shows are essential for better

  52. performance, problem solving, and helping people thrive in

  53. their schools, workplaces and communities.

  54. Encompassing diversity and various identities, equity in

  55. ensuring opportunities despite inequalities and inclusion in

  56. creating welcoming environments. And this is from DEI.

  57. Define what diversity, equity inclusion really means.

  58. Authored by Debate Chavez, chief diversity officer at the

  59. University of Michigan. And that's a lot of words that

  60. basically say not a whole lot, isn't it?

  61. It's a whole lot of words that don't say a whole lot.

  62. And I want to say on the record here this morning, I have no

  63. problem with diversity or equity or inclusion.

  64. What I do have a problem with is what the liberals have termed

  65. diversity and equity and inclusion compared to what the

  66. word of God would talk about diversity and equity and

  67. inclusion that we don't buy into the hype of the DEI wokeness

  68. that is out there today. You say, brother, are you just

  69. trying to push Amen buttons this morning?

  70. Why are you going over this? Don't you know, do you feel like

  71. there's some closet liberals that are around here today?

  72. And the answer is yes, yes, I do.

  73. No, I'm just kidding. No, I don't at all.

  74. But but I, I think this term inclusion is an important one.

  75. It's one that's talked about a lot in the special needs

  76. community, but it's also one that's going to be important and

  77. should be important in your church if we use it in the right

  78. way. I'm tired.

  79. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of yielding those things

  80. that are good and right to those who want to take them and

  81. pervert them. For instance, I want to be able

  82. to use the rainbow without having the connotation of that

  83. stolen by the L GB TQIA plus minus equal divided sign

  84. movement. It's and you say, well you're

  85. mocking. No, I'm not.

  86. I'm just saying that's exactly how it goes.

  87. I remember when it was just gay and lesbian and then it just

  88. grew and grew and grew because there's no actual definition.

  89. Love is love, defining the word by the word meaning it could be

  90. whatever you want it to be. So I don't want to yield the

  91. rainbow. I don't want to yield a good

  92. word like inclusion to those who are trying to muddy the waters

  93. and turn it into something of which it is not.

  94. DEI, as it's taught in academia and liberal think tanks, is

  95. opposite to biblical truths. I can just give you a couple.

  96. And again, this is not us preaching for an hour on

  97. teaching for an hour on DEI. But again, I do think we need to

  98. kind of lay a little bit of a baseline.

  99. It was Voltaire who said, if you wish to converse with me, define

  100. your terms. Now, I will say Voltaire was not

  101. a very nice man, particularly to Christians.

  102. But I do like that, that quote because we want to make sure

  103. when we're using the word inclusion that we're using the

  104. same word with the same definition.

  105. For instance, when I was growing up, I was a Lutheran.

  106. I got saved when I was 16 years old by the grace of God.

  107. I was in the Lutheran Church before I heard the gospel in a

  108. independent Baptist Church. And for years they said in the

  109. Lutheran Church, you're saved by grace through faith, and the

  110. Baptist say you're saved by grace through faith.

  111. I came to find out. But what the Lutheran Church

  112. meant by saved by grace through faith was not the same as what

  113. the Bible said. And so we wanted to define our

  114. terms to make sure that we're not just saying the same thing,

  115. but talking about the same thing.

  116. So what? Why isn't this inclusion

  117. incorrect, this worldly thought process of inclusion that's out

  118. there? Well, first of all, because the

  119. Bible condemns being a respecter of purpose of persons, showing

  120. favoritism or partiality, inclusion, trying to put one

  121. group ahead of another. Deuteronomy 117 You shall not

  122. respect persons in judgment. You shall hear the small as well

  123. as the great. You shall not be afraid of the

  124. face of man, for the judgment is God.

  125. Then the cause is too hard for you.

  126. Bring it unto me, and I will hear it.

  127. Problem 2821. To have respect to persons is

  128. not good. Another problem with this DEI.

  129. It promotes the Bible teaches promotion by merit.

  130. Lukes, 1917. And he said unto him, Well, thou

  131. good servant, because that has been faithful, and little have

  132. thou authority over 10 cities. James 21.

  133. My brethren have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the

  134. Lord of glory with respect of persons, but if you have

  135. respective persons, you commit sin, you are convinced of the

  136. law as transgressors, you know, what are we supposed to do?

  137. James chapter 2 is a a perfect example of this is that we don't

    James 2 chapter mention

  138. move people up to the front because of the way they look,

  139. the way they talk, what they can tie.

  140. We don't move people to the back because of what little they have

  141. or how they're dressed or what not.

  142. You know, the whole idea of DEI as the world says it is false

  143. and we reject it wholeheartedly. However, and this is where we

  144. get to the part about not what we're talking against, but what

  145. we're talking for because that's where we really want to get this

  146. morning. What we are for is good and

  147. right inclusion with those special needs children and by

  148. the way, adults as well. They're not going to get a lot

  149. of conversation here today because of what we're focusing

  150. on. But we do want to make clear

  151. that there are not just special needs children in your church.

  152. There's also special needs adults in your church.

  153. And if you don't have special needs adults in your church,

  154. those special needs children will turn into special needs

  155. adults someday. So there does need to be some

  156. thought and conversation about that as well.

  157. So how do we include them? How do we make them feel like

  158. they are a part of the church? How do we make them feel like

  159. they're a part of the Sunday school, of the junior Church of

  160. the Morning worship? How do they feel like they're a

  161. part of it? And the good news is you feel

  162. the same way that we do. That's why you're here, the

  163. reason you're watching, the reason that you came here to

  164. Easton today is because you want to be able to figure that out or

  165. you want to sharpen your skills for those people that you were

  166. trying to minister to. So with this in mind, I do want

  167. to mention this. We have likely have a very dim

  168. view of inclusion, yet I might remind you that when that Satan

  169. is the master copycat, taking things that are good and right

  170. and perverting them and using that word, perverting in the

  171. very real context of taking something that is good and right

  172. and turning into something that is not, that's a perversion.

  173. Genesis 3-4, the serpent said of the woman, He shall not surely

  174. die. Galatians 1-6 and seven I

  175. marveled that you were so soon removed from that, from him that

  176. called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel which

  177. is not another, but that some may trouble you and would

  178. pervert the gospel of Christ. This is what Satan does.

  179. He takes something that's good. Let's include everyone special

  180. needs wise, into our churches, into our Sunday schools, into

  181. our junior churches, and turns that word inclusion into

  182. something else that becomes a buzzword that does not mean what

  183. it ought to mean. So now let's get to what it is.

  184. The very basic definition of inclusion is near the bottom of

  185. your page, top of your next page.

  186. It was universally accepted until the recent political

  187. changes. The action or state of including

  188. or of being included within a group structure.

  189. The action or state of including or of being included within a

  190. group structure. Now, I don't know about you, but

  191. I don't typically like definitions using the very same

  192. word to be able to define. I just talked about that, didn't

  193. I? And we went through several

  194. dictionaries because Diane said, well, is it just the dictionary

  195. you chose? And so, you know, that's the way

  196. the world does it now. You just find the dictionary you

  197. want, right? So it, hey, we'll do the same

  198. thing, right? That's what they do.

  199. We'll do it. No, but we just wanted to see

  200. what was out there. Every single one of them used

  201. the word including. And I do think it's OK because I

  202. don't know about you, but when I hear the term inclusion, I don't

  203. know that I actually think including at the first, I don't

  204. know that I do. Maybe you do.

  205. But the idea of what is inclusion, we want everyone to

  206. be included. We, we want little Johnny, We

  207. want little Susie in your class who has autism, who is

  208. nonverbal, who has some sort of physical disability, whatever it

  209. may be, some combination of all of those.

  210. We want them to feel included in the classroom.

  211. By the way, we're not just doing that because we want them to

  212. feel warm and fuzzy. We're not just doing that

  213. because we don't want mom and dad to leave the church.

  214. We're doing that because Johnny and Susie special needs, they

  215. need to learn about Jesus Christ.

  216. I want to make something abundantly clear this morning

  217. before we go any further, is that everything that we're going

  218. to teach you, everything that we want to talk to you about, the

  219. question and answers that we have are really all focused at

  220. its very core at this purpose, teaching these young people and

  221. again, older people, but these younger people about Jesus

  222. Christ. You might say this, well, I

  223. don't know that he'll understand about Jesus Christ if I teach

  224. him Jesus Christ. I don't know that she'll

  225. understand the basic concepts of the Bible if I teach her the

  226. basic concepts of the Bible. And I'm going to say this

  227. clearly, this is a special needs loving group.

  228. And so I can say things very clearly because you're used to

  229. people saying things, probably those kids to you very clearly

  230. sometimes right down the line. So I'm going to say this to you

  231. very clearly. It's not up to you to decide if

  232. they can learn those things or not.

  233. Just teach them Jesus. All right.

  234. Now the way we adapt that will be different.

  235. And that's OK. We're going to talk a lot that

  236. that's a lot of what we're going to talk about today.

  237. But we're going to teach them Jesus.

  238. We what we don't want is to create a place where, well, as

  239. long as they're quiet and as long as they don't get interrupt

  240. everyone else, then everything will be OK.

  241. That's not what we're going to be teaching you.

  242. And I don't believe that's biblical.

  243. The idea is this, we're going to teach them Jesus, whether they

  244. reach the age of accountability or not, where they'll truly

  245. understand the gospel. That's not for me to decide.

  246. That's not for our junior church teachers to decide.

  247. What we're just do is keep teaching them Jesus.

  248. AJ, if you'd asked me when he was about four or five years

  249. old, if that he would understand the concept of who God is or

  250. talk about Bible verses or things like that, the answer

  251. would have been a hard no. He was pretty much non verbal at

  252. the time and there wasn't a lot of hope that we had that he

  253. would be verbal. I would tell you now he is so

  254. very verbal Now he is, he is so verbal.

  255. I mean, there are times like that non verbal thing like what

  256. you know, what happened to that? Or can we just get a couple

  257. hours of the non verbal thing, you know, like that would that

  258. would be great. But you know, this is we don't

  259. know. The doctors don't know.

  260. We don't know, God knows. And So what do we know?

  261. Well, we've got a Commission. This Commission does not change

  262. because of the needs of others. In fact, God gave us Commission

  263. knowing that there be autism. I'd, I'd argue that God gave us

  264. Commission knowing to be Down syndrome and knowing that there

  265. be children that have other type of neurotypical issues and

  266. physical issues and all those things.

  267. The principles don't change, but the methods will.

  268. And that's what you need to remember.

  269. The principles that we're going to look at don't change.

  270. If it's from the Word of God, we don't get to change it.

  271. Listen, that's what the liberals do.

  272. And I'm not talking about liberals politically.

  273. I'm talking about liberal Christians that they say, well,

  274. I know what the Bible says, but in our situation, stop right

  275. there. This is what the Bible says.

  276. This is what we're going to do. And by the way, we're going to

  277. be looking at what the Bible says about inclusion here in

  278. just a few moments. But we're not going to change

  279. what the Word of God says because of our unique

  280. situations. But what we are going to do is

  281. that we are going to keep the principles of the Word of God as

  282. they are, but adapt them so that those young people will be able

  283. to be included in their classrooms.

  284. What inclusion is not. I've also talked about this,

  285. just made some, just some remarks about it.

  286. It's not simply making sure every child can physically sit

  287. in your classroom. Inclusion is not.

  288. Well, we have all of our kids in the classroom.

  289. That would be the very technical definition of inclusion.

  290. But that's not what we're trying to do here and now.

  291. That might be a good starting place.

  292. It could be that Johnny needs to only sit in class for 5 minutes

  293. and that's all he can handle for a while.

  294. And then, excuse me, we'll work to 10 minutes and we'll work to

  295. 20 minutes and we'll work to a whole class.

  296. And then we'll start to give him some adaptives that we can work

  297. on to be able to allow him to be able to understand some

  298. concepts. But the whole idea is that we're

  299. not just going to leave him there in the corner and say,

  300. look, just don't interrupt the other kids while they're

  301. learning. You say, why would you say that?

  302. Because there's churches that that's the way that it is.

  303. That's not your heart. I know that's why you're here.

  304. But that's there are churches that are like that and we want

  305. to avoid that. That is not inclusion.

  306. It's not pretending differences don't exist and forcing everyone

  307. into identical activities. There was a mother that we met

  308. in Kansas a few years ago. It's interesting that when we go

  309. to these special needs conferences, we've been able to

  310. do some fit conferences or do some special needs teaching in

  311. other places. And that we were at a church in

  312. Kansas and they said, what would you also talk about special

  313. needs and the ministry and the books before you get to

  314. preaching? And that's what we did.

  315. And after church, listen, the ladies line up to talk to my

  316. wife. All the ladies want to talk to

  317. my wife. And I just stand there and

  318. sometimes the guys would come up and say, what do you think about

  319. the chiefs? You know, that's what so and

  320. it's like, well, I mean, special needs dads and men really need

  321. to be able to get involved in that world and understand those

  322. things too. But I find it's the women that

  323. always want to talk to my wife. But one of the conversations

  324. that she was having with the lady, and then I kind of butted

  325. into it because none of the guys were really talking to me.

  326. So I just decided to join that conversation was a woman who

  327. said, and I'm going to kind of just give you a very basic

  328. summary of this. Her daughter was non verbal.

  329. And she was saying that her daughter in the junior church in

  330. that children's class really was not participating at all and was

  331. not allowed to participate because she could not speak.

  332. And she says, I want her to be able to do memory verses and I'd

  333. like her to be able to pray in front of the class.

  334. And the teacher just took that as well.

  335. I'm going to make her say her memory verse just like everyone

  336. else. And if she can't say it, then

  337. she doesn't get a star on the chart.

  338. And if she can't, she can stand in front of the classroom.

  339. And if she can't say anything, then she has to sit back down.

  340. Now, that seems rather cruel to me, to be honest with you.

  341. That's not, by the way, that's not what the mother was asking

  342. for. The mother was asking, well, is

  343. there some way that my child can do a memory verse like with a, a

  344. board to be able to either write or to be able to make choices to

  345. be able to do that or to be able to have a prayer request board.

  346. We have a young lady in our church who is nonverbal.

  347. She is the sweetest young girl that you could ever imagine.

  348. She comes in to church with this beautiful smile every Sunday

  349. morning and I just love her dearly.

  350. In fact, AJ and her have this very interesting relationship

  351. that they have with each other. It's like they connect on a

  352. different level. There's on a wavelength none of

  353. us understand, but they can. They understand one another.

  354. And you know, she has a board when it's prayer time that she

  355. has six different things that she can pick from and she pulls

  356. off the one she wants to pick. It's attached with Velcro and

  357. she puts at the top and says, this is what I'm going to pray

  358. for or this is who I'm going to pray for this week.

  359. She can participate. That's inclusion.

  360. Now here's the problem. That takes work.

  361. You don't just roll out of bed on Sunday morning and blow off

  362. the flash cards and stand in front of the kids.

  363. And that works because it's not. It does take some preparation.

  364. And by the way, over time that preparation can be lessened as

  365. you start to build a body of materials that you can reuse

  366. over and over again. But that's not what we're

  367. talking about. Just saying, well, we're going

  368. to force you to do the same thing whether you can do it or

  369. not, that that's not what we're talking about.

  370. It's not allowing a child to behave or act how they however

  371. they want. You know, the the pendulum, and

  372. we'll talk about this in our last session.

  373. The pendulum can swing so far the other direction that special

  374. needs families become entitled. We have to have this.

  375. We will have this pastor. This is the way that it needs to

  376. be. And can I just say this and I

  377. don't know again, if you're in the room, don't get offended

  378. because listen, I'm not talking about you.

  379. I'm talking about the people online.

  380. OK, so just that that makes me feel better if I say that.

  381. But I may be talking to you too. All right.

  382. But I will say this, I am very much involved and want to

  383. minister to the special needs community, but as a pastor, I

  384. have to think of everybody. I can't just lobby for one

  385. community at the sake of everyone else in the church.

  386. Sometimes decisions have to be made that are hard and difficult

  387. and maybe not as easy as a special needs parent would want

  388. it to be. So as a pastor and as a special

  389. needs parent, you have to understand that your child can't

  390. act however they want. And by the way, you don't want

  391. your child to act however you want.

  392. There are times, you know that AJ acts in a way that's not

  393. right. And I want him to know that when

  394. he's adult, He can't do that at Walmart.

  395. He can't do that in other places.

  396. And by the way, this goes with it, It's not permitting a child

  397. or their parent to be in charge of your classroom.

  398. That's not inclusion either. Several years ago, we consulted

  399. with a church in Ohio and they wanted to talk to us about an

  400. issue they were having in their junior church.

  401. They were working so hard with this young man.

  402. He was probably about 13 or 14 years old, somewhere around

  403. there, and they were trying to work with him to be able to sit

  404. in a junior church. And if my memory was right that

  405. he was actually maybe a little bit outside of the normal grades

  406. to be in there, but they were making accommodations for him

  407. and also had someone that was sitting with him.

  408. Well, it ended up that he was being inappropriate to some of

  409. the young ladies that were there, inappropriate to the

  410. adult workers, female workers that were there.

  411. And so the pastor had to call the family in.

  412. Now the pastor, again, we consulted with him and, and the

  413. whole idea was, listen, we don't want to be accusatory to this

  414. young man at all. Perhaps he doesn't understand,

  415. perhaps he's doing something that he doesn't know.

  416. However, it's still not appropriate.

  417. You can't just say, well, my child doesn't understand.

  418. So moms and daughters just beware.

  419. Moms and daughters just stand far away from him.

  420. That that's, that's not inclusion.

  421. That's that's not what we're aiming for.

  422. And it ended up being that in talking to this with this

  423. pastor, talk to the family, the family just got so upset they

  424. left the church. Well, you don't, you don't care

  425. about our family. You don't love our family.

  426. The idea is we love them so much and they were trying to bend

  427. over backwards and make even more accommodations.

  428. But we love you so much that we're just telling you it's not

  429. appropriate. Listen, that 13 year old becomes

  430. a 21 year old and at the store touches a woman inappropriately

  431. and he could be taken out in handcuffs.

  432. Now, I'm not trying to be weird about this, but we've seen even

  433. young autistic people or autistic people of any age, to

  434. be honest with you, then resist arrest because they're confused

  435. and tragic consequences can take place.

  436. You say you you're being over the top.

  437. No, no, I'm saying exactly what has been in the news the last

  438. few years. This happened in Rhode Island

  439. not that long ago. It's happened to other places as

  440. well, where a child with autism becomes confused, not with a

  441. guardian, not with a parent, and then tragic consequences can

  442. take place. So what does that young man need

  443. to know whether his intent was right or not?

  444. We don't touch women in an inappropriate way.

  445. And So what we're telling you is if you were worried about

  446. inclusion, meaning the parents run your class or the children

  447. run your class, that's the pendulum swinging too far the

  448. other direction. The old saying is true.

  449. There's a ditch on both sides of the road and we don't want to

  450. fall so far and we don't make any accommodations.

  451. Your kid can't talk well, they can't do anything in our class

  452. and they can't learn. They can't get a star.

  453. They don't get a treat. The other side is, well, we

  454. don't listen. We don't want to offend these

  455. people. So we'll just let them do

  456. whatever they want. We'll let the kid do whatever

  457. they want. They can scream, they can

  458. terrorize, and other people will leave the church because now

  459. they can't hear the word of God because of what's going on.

  460. There has to be a middle ground. There has to be a biblical

  461. ground. And the answer is there is

  462. that's what true inclusion is, making sure that everyone is

  463. fitly framed together, that it's not just the special needs child

  464. and it's not just the special needs family, but that as a

  465. church, all are together. Now, here's the definition that

  466. I really want you to focus on. And if you want to know what

  467. true inclusion is and what it asks, this is what I want you to

  468. focus on inclusion in the classroom.

  469. Ask this question, do I have access to the room and am I

  470. included in what is going on in the room?

  471. Do I have access to the room and am I included in what is going

  472. on in the room? Now let's take the first part

  473. that mostly deals with physical disabilities, doesn't it?

  474. Can a child be in the room? Now let's also be equally

  475. honest. Our church is blessed in the

  476. sense that we don't have any type of access issues in this

  477. building because this is not a typical church building.

  478. We had a guy who came here once and he called us the cult in the

  479. trailer after he left. And and The funny thing was, I

  480. was more insulted about calling this a trailer than a cult.

  481. And it's like, this is not a trailer.

  482. All right. Like it's not a cold either, but

  483. I'm just saying it's not a trailer.

  484. We think it's a double wide. Come on, man.

  485. Like, are you kidding me? But because this is a metal

  486. building that was turned into a church and we came here, we have

  487. no ADA issues at all. In fact, we're one of the few

  488. churches in town that is ADA accessible, which is a blessing

  489. for us. But I also recognize that some

  490. of you come from churches that retrofitting to the ADA is

  491. almost next to impossible. I get that.

  492. Or it would come at such great expense.

  493. It's cost prohibitive. And again, you don't have to

  494. follow the ADA federally because churches are exempt.

  495. I will tell you this, the AAB, which is the state version, the

  496. Massachusetts version of the ADA, it is more stringent than

  497. the ADA churches are required to follow.

  498. And that may be a little bit of a shock to pastors.

  499. And there can be some carve outs for you as well because of

  500. finances and different types of things.

  501. But there are certain parts of the law served on the Commission

  502. of disabilities in our town for six years.

  503. There are certain things that are required even of churches in

  504. the state of Massachusetts, not federally, but from the state.

  505. And if you're watching wherever you are, if whatever country

  506. you're in, you should be aware of what the laws are in your

  507. area as well. But I will say that there are

  508. things that you can do and accommodations you can make even

  509. an older church buildings to be able to make accessibility.

  510. And so those are some things that you would have to look at

  511. or maybe consult with someone who knows a lot more about

  512. building and those types of things.

  513. Or you might just need to be able to say, well, we're going

  514. to move our classroom to an accessible room.

  515. We're gonna move to the first floor or we're going to move to

  516. another room. It's, it's just more of a

  517. mindset than anything. We were at another church in

  518. Kansas. It was about a year and a half

  519. ago and we were actually doing a fit conference there.

  520. They actually invited us to come and do a conference.

  521. They said, listen, we'll invite everybody.

  522. We'll do everything. We'll, we'll serve the meal.

  523. All you got to do is come and teach the lessons.

  524. I was like, Pam, there's a great setup right here.

  525. We, we were all about that. And it was such a blessing to be

  526. able to go. And there was 1 gentleman that

  527. was in a power chair that was there.

  528. You get a special needed adult, a, a person with a handicap.

  529. He was there with a power chair, chair and we talked to him for a

  530. little bit and he we learned through the process of time that

  531. because of the way this church was that and it was an older

  532. church and he couldn't actually come in through the front door.

  533. And so they made him with the only way to come in the

  534. accessible entrance was in the back.

  535. It went through a choir room. It went through a place.

  536. Well, if your choir rooms, like most choir rooms, you know, it's

  537. just like, it's like, you know, it's like there's all this sheet

  538. music everywhere and you kind of what are we going to sing on

  539. Sunday? Kind of just that one, all

  540. right, Because that's the way ours was when we were in, when

  541. we were in Tampa. It took us a lot of work to get

  542. it what it needed to be. They decided if this is the

  543. accessible entrance to the church, we've got to do better

  544. back here. And so they renovated that small

  545. room. It was about 8 by 810 by 10,

  546. something like that. They moved the choir books to

  547. another area. They they painted it, they put a

  548. little chair in there just so other people for coming in and

  549. out and they just made it look comfortable to me.

  550. That was wow, that's inclusion. It's not just going through and

  551. saying, well, listen, just go through the stacks, acquire

  552. books and make it to It was someone who felt like they were

  553. a part of the church. It probably cost them a few $100

  554. for paint and a little elbow grease to clean and that was

  555. about it. But do you know what a

  556. difference of a testimony it was to that man to be able to feel

  557. like my church cares? So that's the first part is just

  558. knowing that they can get access to the room, wherever that is.

  559. That's your auditorium, your sanctuary, that's the classroom

  560. that you meet, whatever it is. But when they get there, are

  561. they included in what's going on in the room?

  562. That it's not just about making sure they can get in the room,

  563. but can they participate in what's going on when they get

  564. there. This is the part that will help

  565. you with as time goes on. It's not what I'm going to cover

  566. this morning in this session because what we're talking more

  567. philosophical, more biblical. Diane is going to help you with

  568. a great deal more with that because it requires maybe

  569. adapting the environment. It requires adapting the method

  570. of instruction. It requires adapting the

  571. conditions. And we'll look at all of those

  572. later and make practical application.

  573. But adapting those things does not mean you have to change who

  574. you are. It does not mean you have to

  575. change who you teach. It doesn't mean that you have to

  576. teach that one child at the expense of all the other

  577. children. It can all be done together.

  578. I am constantly amazed that's what's accomplished in that

  579. glass room back there here at 800 Washington St.

  580. It was I think 2 weeks ago, we had a, a very high attendance.

  581. We were in and of that high attendance, there were 12 in

  582. that glass room. Now, I would encourage you at

  583. some point, just go peek your head in that glass room.

  584. All right, men, we'll be meeting in there in just a few minutes,

  585. but peek your head in the glass room.

  586. Tell me if you think 12 children should be in there, especially

  587. with several of them with special needs.

  588. And I, and I've, I've said this before, I'd rather preach out

  589. here. I'd rather do everything out

  590. here than to be the one standing in that classroom and doing it

  591. because I, I don't know that I can do it.

  592. I just don't know. I mean, look, Lord gives you

  593. grace when you need it. But I mean, we're talking about

  594. grace, you know, for, for me to be able to do it.

  595. But to know that my wife at 10:00 and Miss Cassandra at

  596. 11:00 are in there and they're teaching the kids the word of

  597. God and they're not just getting a, a hey, sit down and be quiet

  598. and, and, and don't, don't make a lot of noise.

  599. But they are learning and they're growing.

  600. And we just had a young lady just about 6 months ago in there

  601. that didn't get saved in junior church.

  602. But then she came out during the children junior church activity

  603. afterwards. And she wanted to get saved to

  604. the point that I was trying to go through with her.

  605. And she's kind of like, what's taking so long?

  606. I already know what I needed. If she was trying to tell me the

  607. plan of salvation, I was like, hey, girl, I think you already

  608. got it, to be honest with you. I think you already know what

  609. you need to do. And so where did that come from?

  610. Because of the preacher. Because what happened in the

  611. glass room, you know? And a young lady, by the way,

  612. also has trouble keeping attention.

  613. But the Lord was able to work through some of those things,

  614. but there was some accommodations that needed to be

  615. made. So we thank the Lord for that.

  616. Well, what's the biblical foundation for this type of

  617. inclusion? I want to take maybe the next 10

  618. minutes to look at this. So if you have your Bibles, turn

  619. to 1st Corinthians chapter 10. Let's get down to preaching.

  620. All right, First Corinthians chapter 12, you can go to

    1 Corinthians 12 chapter mention

  621. chapter 10. It's a good chapter 2.

  622. But we're supposed to be going to chapter 12, and we're looking

  623. at verse #12. Now, this chapter deals with the

  624. local church. I I say that because sometimes

  625. it's talked about in a universal sense.

  626. And I would say what we see here is a local church body that's

  627. being spoken of here, because at the end you'll see that there

  628. could be the potential for schisms, difficulties,

  629. divisions. Nothing that's universal,

  630. invisible can have schisms, difficulties and divisions.

  631. But we're talking about a very real church here.

  632. And this is where we start to get the idea of this fit

  633. conference, how we're we're put together.

  634. So read along with me verse #12 you read silently widely aloud.

  635. It says, For as the body is 1 and hath many members, and all

  636. the members of that one body being many are one body, so also

  637. is Christ. For by 1 Spirit are we all

  638. baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether

  639. we be bond or free, and have made all, and have been all made

  640. to drink into one spirit. For the body is not one member,

  641. but many At the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am

  642. not of the body. Is it therefore not of the body?

  643. The ears shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not the body.

  644. Is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye,

  645. were where were they hearing? If the whole were hearing, where

  646. were the smelling? But now hath God set members,

  647. every one of them, in the body, as it had pleased them?

  648. Let's stop right there for a moment.

  649. In the local body, we are different.

  650. And I've said before, the Liberty Baptist Church has so

  651. many different characters. We could have a sitcom with all

  652. the different characters that we have.

  653. You know, there's so many different people coming from so

  654. many different walks of life. By the way, that starts with the

  655. pastor. I'm not exempting myself from

  656. all that. I'm I, I am.

  657. I may be the under shepherd. I'm not the chief shepherd, but

  658. I may be the chief character that is here at Liberty Baptist

  659. Church. I'm not.

  660. I'll acknowledge that freely. But I will say this, we're

  661. different by design, that God has purposely put us together,

  662. that what God has done in Bellingham or what God has done

  663. in Webster or in Peabody or in Holbrook or in Washington,

  664. Trailia, Washington, I hope I said that right.

  665. Or in Scotland or wherever that is that pretty good.

  666. No, it wasn't good, all right. But wherever it may be that God

  667. has put the people in that church to be I eyes, ears,

  668. mouths, noses, hands, feet, all different, but different by

  669. design. Because if we were all the same,

  670. that that would make a very difficult type of church,

  671. wouldn't it? That God brought us all together

  672. the way he did. And who is the one that did it?

  673. Well, it said that God was the one.

  674. He did it as it pleased him. So I would say to you this

  675. morning that even those who might seem like they don't fit

  676. because of their special needs, so maybe I remind you, God has

  677. placed them within your watch care God, God has God desires

  678. for you to remember that they are part of the body.

  679. They are part of the body, that they cannot be put off to the

  680. side. Not only are they important, but

  681. they are necessary to the work. Do you know how many people have

  682. come to know the Lord or have come to church over the years

  683. because of AJ? And he doesn't even realize it.

  684. He doesn't even recognize it. We were at that conference a

  685. couple of years ago in Kansas and I remember it was pretty

  686. overwhelming. It's probably about 150 or so

  687. people there was so well attended.

  688. It was such a blessing. And we got to the end of there

  689. was a pastor there. In fact, I believe there's some

  690. from their church that are watching here today.

  691. And Brother Quigley, Pastor Quigley, a friend of ours, got

  692. up and, and he, he prayed to close the service to, to close

  693. the conference. And I'll never forget what he

  694. said. He said as he prayed, you know,

  695. for safe travel and, and all the different things.

  696. And as we went our way, he says, and Lord, thank you for AJ.

  697. And none of them knew AJ. We didn't bring him with us.

  698. I said thank you for AJ because if it wasn't for AJ, none of us

  699. would be here today. I thought about that.

  700. It sounds like I didn't know that, so I'd never heard it come

  701. out of someone else's mouth. And it really hit differently

  702. when I thought, wow, all of these people came today because

  703. of AJ. Anything good that we have

  704. obviously comes from the Lord, but it's because the Lord gave

  705. us AJ. You're telling me we'd have

  706. three books for special needs families and for churches?

  707. If you're telling me we have a fit conference, it would be more

  708. likely to have a fit conference. And that's unlikely, but it

  709. would have been more likely than this.

  710. I didn't know the difference between autism and Down syndrome

  711. when they told me what it what what AJ was dealing with.

  712. And I say that not to be funny. I'm saying cuz that's where I

  713. was. I'd no idea whatsoever.

  714. But look at what God did. Why?

  715. Because God placed him with us. God placed him within this

  716. church. And so those people, that's what

  717. inclusion is all about. Look at verse #19.

  718. And if they were all one member, where would be the body?

  719. But now are they many members, yet one body?

  720. And the eye cannot say into the hand I have no need of thee, nor

  721. get to the head of the feet, I have no need of you.

  722. Why do we need these special needs people here?

  723. Well, it seems like we don't have the right to ask that

  724. question. Nay, much more, those members of

  725. the body which seem to be more feeble are necessary.

  726. It's the ones that you don't see coming that could be the ones

  727. that are the game changers in the church.

  728. And so, well, you know, I'll, I'll teach this little boy about

  729. the Bible, but I don't know what he'll become to well, one, he

  730. could get saved and that'd be good enough.

  731. I mean, I don't know what more you'd need from that.

  732. But it could just be he could change a family, could just be

  733. he could change a church, could just be change a community.

  734. See, it's not up for us to decide what the end consequences

  735. will be to say, you know what this seems more feeble, but it

  736. seems to me that God takes pleasure in the feeble.

  737. Just went through First Corinthians preaching through on

  738. Wednesday nights, first few chapters.

  739. They were so proud of themselves.

  740. He said this you know what you you really need to be weak.

  741. That's where it's at weakness as where as you, you've cherished

  742. your strength, but you're not actually strong.

  743. So I had to talk to you as babes.

  744. You need milk instead of being the strong meet people that you

  745. need to be. And so, yeah, there's some

  746. people that may not seem like they belong, but boy do they

  747. belong. And we need to help them belong.

  748. Nay, much more of those members of the body, verse 22 would see

  749. more feeble or necessary. And those members of the body

  750. which we think to be less honorable upon these we bestow

  751. more abundant honor, and our uncomely parts have more

  752. abundant comeliness, for our comely parts have no need.

  753. But God had tempered the body together, giving more abundant

  754. honor to them, part which lacked that there'd be no schism in the

  755. body, but that the members should have the same care one

  756. for another. And whether one member suffer,

  757. all members suffer with it or 1 be honored, all of them, all the

  758. members rejoice with it. Again, it seems to me that's

  759. very clear why this is talking about the local church, because

  760. it's talking about real issues that are happening within a

  761. body. Not something that's just

  762. floating in the air, but something that's very real here.

  763. So what do we see from this? Just to fill in your blanks

  764. there. Each member of the body, the

  765. local church has unique gifts. AJ has unique gifts.

  766. He does. And I'm not talking about the

  767. special gifts that sometimes people ask you about that say,

  768. well, what's your child's special gift like?

  769. Like every child has to be a savant at the piano or do math

  770. on command or, or, or some of those things you see on

  771. television or in the movies. AJ does not have a special gift

  772. in the sense that he is a savant at something, you know, he can

  773. play chess with blindfolded, you know, or something like that.

  774. You know what AJ special gift is being AJ and you say, well, that

  775. sounds that sounds just kind of silly.

  776. Well, that's what it is, because that's who God made him.

  777. And so yes, that's that's what he is.

  778. That's his unique gift. But every member has unique

  779. gifts. Those who seem, quote seem to be

  780. more feeble are necessary. The body is tempered, which

  781. means to commingle the body being commingled together that

  782. we are one. That's why when one rejoices, we

  783. all rejoice. That's why when one sorrows, we

  784. all sorrow because we're together as one to the end that

  785. there be no schism and that the members have the same care one

  786. for another. I would say it's a good argument

  787. for biblical inclusion, not the world's inclusion, but what the

  788. Bible says. Now quickly because I'm going

  789. over just a touch and we'll probably go to 9:50 and then

  790. take a 10 minute break and then we'll split.

  791. I'll tell you more about that in the and in Ephesians 2/21/22.

  792. It's right there on your page. And whom the this is where we

  793. get our our term fit conference from.

  794. And whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto a

  795. holy temple in the Lord. And whom you also are building

  796. together for the habitation of God through the Spirit.

  797. While the body is the temple of the Spirit.

  798. The church is also recognized that way as well.

  799. First Corinthians chapter 6 talks about the body being the

    1 Corinthians 6 chapter mention

  800. temple of Spirit. First Corinthians chapter 3, and

    1 Corinthians 3 chapter mention

  801. of course Ephesians chapter 2 talk about the church being that

    Ephesians 2 chapter mention

  802. the church is fitly framed together, meaning every piece is

  803. exactly who and where it needs to be.

  804. This is biblical inclusion. The world's inclusion typically

  805. brings together pieces that don't belong for the sake of

  806. unity. Biblical inclusion understands

  807. that those God has entrusted us with must be included in the

  808. whole. The mission of the church

  809. extends every part of the church, including those with

  810. special needs. Again, the Great Commission does

  811. not stop when someone's understanding seemingly stops.

  812. The Great Commission continues. It's just that we need to adapt

  813. our methods so that we can fulfill the biblical command.

  814. And I'll just give you this this, and, and, and then we'll,

  815. we'll take a break. When AJ started here, I mean we

  816. started Liberty 2013. We moved to this building very

  817. quickly after being in the in the school for about 3 months

  818. and we knew around that time something was different about

  819. AJ. Time goes on, he gets the

  820. diagnosis, he's not able to sit in the classroom.

  821. Of course, you understand some of you being from smaller

  822. churches, church plants, you understand that when you're the

  823. church planter, church planter's wife, you do everything.

  824. I mean, let me tell you, you don't understand church planting

  825. until you plunge the toilet in your suit.

  826. I'll tell you. That's when you know, it's like,

  827. you know, this is when this is like, it's hit me like, this is

  828. church planting. This is where it's at.

  829. OK. And so there were times for

  830. years that AJ would actually have to sit in the nursery

  831. because he couldn't sit out here during services.

  832. So either Diane or Bethany or Kaylee's older sisters, we had

  833. to sit in the nursery until he's about 7 or 8 years old because

  834. he just couldn't handle being out here.

  835. We got to the place we said this is unsustainable, we can't keep

  836. doing this. So we explained to our church,

  837. he's going to be coming out a few minutes at a time.

  838. And we worked on it. And our church was so wonderful

  839. in so many ways. And I remember AJ sitting in the

  840. back. I have a video of him I'm

  841. preaching. And I'm just, you know, just

  842. Sunday night, you know, independent Baptist, I, I say it

  843. to Lara, you know, and AJ is in the back and he's, he's got

  844. headphones on. They're not even connected to

  845. anything. And he's doing this.

  846. And Diane takes a video of it and you can just hear me.

  847. And AJ is, I thought, I wonder how many other people would wish

  848. they were doing that right now, to be honest with you,

  849. headphones on, not listening pass.

  850. You know, we went from that to him sitting in church to even

  851. after my wife's gone through some very difficult health

  852. issues and still does in many ways, but was not able to come

  853. to church for a while. But sometimes I'd have to preach

  854. and he'd be sitting right here in the front row.

  855. Never thought that would happen. They could sit through old

  856. service. Well, a couple times he didn't

  857. do so well and had to come down and finish my sermon standing

  858. next to him. Didn't see that coming either.

  859. And thankfully I've remembered a lot of my sermons so that like,

  860. OK, I see, I didn't know I need to memorize this one, but that's

  861. OK. But you know, what's really

  862. interesting, you talk about inclusion growing over time.

  863. And Diane noticed this a couple weeks ago.

  864. We have men's prayer here at 9:00, and we actually have about

  865. 9 or 10 men who will come together and pray.

  866. But then afterwards, you know, we all kind of get into our

  867. groups and drink coffee and talk until 10:00 and Sunday school

  868. starts. I didn't notice this, but

  869. there's a couple guys talking outside.

  870. I believe it's Dave and the other day, because our church

  871. had five days here on Sunday. Could you imagine 50 people in

  872. five days? That's, that doesn't make any

  873. sense. But that's what we 10%.

  874. We had a tithe of Dave's in our church on Sunday.

  875. And so Dave, Dave too, you're Dave too, all right.

  876. And Dave too was outside with Dave for outside talking.

  877. And there was AJ just standing with them.

  878. He was standing and listening. And then he was talking about

  879. geese. OK.

  880. He had some desire to talk about geese.

  881. But you know, I thought that's the elder teaching the younger.

  882. He said, no, that's not the old teaching the younger saying,

  883. hey, that's what the Bible says. No, he would just learn, hey,

  884. this is what the men do. They stand outside and drink

  885. coffee. They anybody hasn't asked to

  886. drink coffee yet, but they stand outside and drink coffee and

  887. they talk before church and sometimes they talk about the

  888. Lord. Sometimes they talk about the

  889. Pats. Not much lately.

  890. Sometimes they talk about the weather or what's going on, but

  891. that. But they're together as men.

  892. They're saved. They have commonality.

  893. And there's AJ just standing there and you know, every once

  894. in a while talk about geese and they'll get back to just

  895. listening. It's like that's inclusion.

  896. And two guys who one fairly knew who didn't bat an eye at that,

  897. but just included him in the conversation.

  898. That's what we're looking for. That's biblical inclusion.

  899. And we're going to help you with some of that here as the day

  900. goes on. Heavenly Father, thank you for

  901. this time. I pray that you just be with us.

  902. We take a break. And as we continue here in just

  903. a moment, thank you for each of these people.

  904. Thank you for the people watching online.

  905. It's something that we don't take lightly.

  906. Thank you so much for each and every one of them.

  907. We ask it in Jesus name, Amen. Before we go to a break, let me

  908. just explain to everybody, whether you're here or whether

  909. you're online, what's about to happen.

  910. We'll take a break at 10:00. The men, we will take in the

  911. glass room. We might not have enough chairs.

  912. We might need to move some in there.

  913. That's the case. We'll address that when we get

  914. there. Ladies, you'll remain out here

  915. for split session. Diane will be teaching and then

  916. I'll be teaching in the glass room.

  917. If you are watching online, what's going to happen is this

  918. link will be your link for the entire day.

  919. But what will happen is while we're on breaks, you'll just see

  920. a, a card on the screen that says we will be right back in a

  921. minute and just know right around 10:00 Eastern Time we

  922. will be returning. It will be Diane's lesson.

  923. We will not be recording the lesson in the glass room just

  924. because of the constraints of the size of our building and

  925. where we have everything as far as audio visual.

  926. So at 10:00 Eastern Time, if you're watching online, you'll

  927. be watching Diane. If you're here, get Donuts, get

  928. coffee. If you're at home, you're on

  929. your own. I hope you got something there.

  930. All right? And so we'll be breaking and

  931. we'll be back at it at 10:00, All right.