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What Is Church Discipline? | November 12, 2025
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Welcome to the Liberty Baptist Sermon Archives.
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The message you're about to hear was preached at Liberty Baptist
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Church in Easton, MA. You can find out more about us
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or contact us at mylibertybaptist.org or just
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look us up on Facebook. And now we hope that this
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message from God's Word will be a blessing to you.
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And if you would turn your Bibles to 1st Corinthians
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chapter #5 this evening? You'll remember that it was on
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Sunday night a couple weeks ago before our missions conference,
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we looked at a very difficult text in the Word of God that was
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in Second Samuel chapter #13 dealing with Amnon and.
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His issue with Tamar, and I don't mean to bring that up
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tonight because I'm going to re preach that this evening, but
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what I'm saying is we are going to another very difficult
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passage of scripture. Now I understand that we have a
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lot of young people in here this evening and so I would be very
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careful in what I say. And very likely next week we'll
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have them out of the room for the message because I do want to
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go into the issue in more detail.
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So we are going to look at First Corinthians chapter #5 Lord
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willing, for the next three weeks as we look at several
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different around it. But what we are looking is a
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very sobering chapter of the Word of God.
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And tonight the angle in which we are going to look at this
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chapter deals with the issue of church discipline.
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Church discipline, You might wonder what is that?
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What is it not? What does it entail?
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Perhaps when you think of the words church discipline,
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immediately your mind goes back to those old Catholic days and
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you think of the word excommunication.
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That could be something that you were thinking.
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It could be that your mind goes to a place like Lancaster, PA,
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or somewhere around there where the Amish are.
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And what do you find there? That they have something that's
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similar in some ways that they call.
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The shunning where some. One that has gone against the
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group has to be shunned from the group.
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But yet we ask ourselves this question tonight.
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What is church discipline? What does it entail?
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It's a very serious matter. It should be something that is
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very rare within the body of believers, but it is something
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that the Word of God talks about for us to understand this
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evening. What is church discipline?
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Well, if I was to give it a definition here tonight, very
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quickly, it would be this. It is the last resort to turn
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rebellion into repentance. It is the very last resort to
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turn rebellion into repentance. It is not excommunication, it is
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not shunning, and it may not be what you have seen in other
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ministries in the past. You say, what do you mean,
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pastor? Well, what I'm saying is tonight
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we want to look at the biblical nature of what it is, why it was
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used in the first place here as Paul talks about it in First
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Corinthians chapter #5 and what it relates to us here tonight.
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So why don't you read along with me?
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We'll read all 13 verses. We'll do this the next several
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weeks to give you the full context of what's going on, the
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full gravity and seriousness of what's taking place here.
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In First Corinthians chapter #5 it says this.
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It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you,
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and such fornication as it is not so much named among the
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Gentiles that one should have his father's wife.
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You're puffed up and have not rather mourned that he had done
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this deed might be taken away from among you.
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For I verily is absent in body, but present in spirit.
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Have judged already as though I were present concerning him that
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hath so done this deep in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
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When you are gathered together, and my Spirit, with the power of
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our Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver such an 1 unto Satan for
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the destruction of the flesh, that the Spirit may be saved in
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the day of the Lord Jesus. Your glorying is not good.
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Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
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Purge out there for the old leaven, that ye may be a new
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lump as ye are unleavened. For even Christ.
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Our Passover is sacrificed for us.
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Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither
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with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the
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unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
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I wrote unto you an epistle not to company with fornicators, yet
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not all together with the fornicators of this world, or
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with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters.
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For then you mice needs go out of the world.
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But now I have written unto you not to keep company.
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If any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or
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covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an
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extortioner, with such an one know not to eat.
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For what have I to do to judge them also that are without?
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Do not you judge them that are within, but them that are
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without? God judges therefore put away
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from among yourselves that wicked person.
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And although you may not see the phrase church discipline here in
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First Corinthians chapter #5 there's no doubt in my mind that
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the principle of it is found all throughout this chapter as deals
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with this very, very difficult, very, very sinful situation that
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has been allowed to take place in the Church of Corinth.
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And has not just been allowed to take place in the Church of
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Corinth, but they're actually proud of the fact that has taken
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place within their own ranks. There was a Puritan preacher of
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yesteryear named Daniel Cadre and Daniel Cadre said this.
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If there were never so fair a garden planted and left without
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a fence, its herbs and plants would soon be rooted up.
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So it is in a. Church where?
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Discipline. Is lacking.
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What do we see? Well the church is a very
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special place, isn't it? The church, not just Liberty
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Baptist Church and I believe Liberty Baptist Church is a very
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special place, but any church that names the name of Jesus
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Christ, any church that preaches the truth of the word of God is
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a very, very special place. Why?
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Because Jesus Christ sacrificed himself for that church to be
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able to be there. You say, well I thought it was
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that Jesus died on the cross for our sins.
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Well, that is true, but we also seen Ephesians chapter #5 that
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Christ gave himself for the church, that it wasn't just that
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He gave himself for us. Yes, that is very much true.
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And if that alone is the truth, then that would be a blessed
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truth. But even more beyond that is
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that Jesus died not just so that you could be saved, but also
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that you could be saved and be part of His institution, which
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is called the church. Listen, church discipline isn't
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palatable to many, and it's understandable.
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Some of you might even be getting nervous here tonight.
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You're clenching your bodies there wondering is, is this your
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way of saying we're going to have church discipline at the
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end of the service here tonight? And the answer is no, it is not.
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It just happens to be the very next thing that we see here in
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the Word of God. We've gone from chapter to
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chapter, verse to verse. We're in First Corinthians
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chapter #5 we're not going to skip over it because it's
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something that is unpalatable to our senses because this is God's
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church. We've said this before because
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this is God's church. It's God's.
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Rules that make up God's church. We don't get to decide what the
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church is. We don't get to decide what the
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rule book is, so to speak, of the church.
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Listen, this is the rule book. This is what decides what takes
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place and what does not take place within his church.
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It's God's Word, it's God's church.
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We are God's people. We must do what He says that we
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are to do. We must not do the things He
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says we are not to do. This is his church and not ours.
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He is the one who tells us how to act.
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He's the one who tells us how we are supposed to act.
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Speaking of Ephesians. Chapter 5, right before that
Ephesians 5 chapter mention
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verse I just mentioned. Verses 8 through 11 says this.
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For ye were that word were is a verb.
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What kind of verb? A verb in the past.
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Ye. Were what sometimes darkness,
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but now are ye light in the Lord walk as children of light for
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the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness
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and truth, proving what is acceptable into the Lord and
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have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,
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but rather reprove them. Meaning this don't approve
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unfruitful works of darkness, but reprove them.
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Rebuke them, say I don't want them to be part of my life.
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And listen, we don't want them to be part of the church either,
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Pastor. So what you're?
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Saying is this church has got to be made-up of perfect people.
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Listen, if this church is made-up of perfect people, this
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building will be empty tonight. Do you understand that from the
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pastor to everyone who's sitting here, we are not perfect.
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You won't be perfect until you get to glory.
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He's still working on us. But listen, that doesn't mean we
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get to say, Oh well, I'm not perfect, I'll live however I
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want. No, no, we are to reprove those
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works of darkness. Listen that he saved us from
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we're not to go back to the through of which we fed from
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before like the prodigal who is eating of the slop.
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No, no, we have a new father, we have a new master.
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We have a new way of living. And he says don't live that way,
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don't act that way. You're a child of the king.
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But listen, it's not just. That God tells us how we're to
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act. Listen, He tells pastors how
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they're supposed to act, too. I don't get to be a free agent
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as a pastor in the sense that I get to lead Liberty Baptist
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Church in the way that I see fit.
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Now, do I have some autonomy in places where the Word of God
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does not? Speak yes, as long as I do not
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violate the word of God. However, I got to do what the
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word of God says. I'm going to preach the Word.
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I've got to make sure I oversee the flock properly.
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It says in Acts 2028. Take heed therefore unto
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yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Ghost has
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made you overseers. Paul's talking to a group of the
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elders in Acts chapter 20. He's in Ephesus.
Acts 20 chapter mention
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He's never going to come back again.
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He knows in his heart he's about to go bound in the Spirit to
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Jerusalem. He's never going to see these
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men again. And he says this.
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Understand that you are overseers of the Church of God,
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the Holy Spirit here. It has made you the overseer.
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And he says to feed the Church of God, which he had purchased
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with his own blood. His blood was shed for you, His
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blood was shed for the church. So I must, as an overseer, do
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what I must do to be the overseer that God wants me to
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be. So as we look at this issue of
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church discipline, there's several things I want us to look
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at. You can write these down in your
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prayer bulletin. The first is this.
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I want us to see the reasons for church discipline.
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The reasons for church discipline.
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Verse #1 says this. It is reported commonly.
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What does that word commonly mean?
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This is a very public matter what is being discussed.
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And again, I'm going to be very careful in how I discussed this
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this evening. If you're not sure exactly
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what's going on here, we'll explain it more specificity next
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week when I don't necessarily have to talk in the way I am
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tonight with the young people here.
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But I think as an adult here this evening, you can read this
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and say this isn't good. This is not activity which
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should be taking place inside of a church.
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And not only is an activity that is taking place inside of the
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church with a man and a woman, it is the issue of the fact that
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it is commonly reported. Everybody knows about it.
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They are talking about it. It is a subject of conversation
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within the church that there is this impurity among you.
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And then it says this, and it's not so much as named among the
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Gentiles. Now understand this, the
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Gentiles were very sinful people.
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The Gentiles were very much involved with the sins of the
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flesh. I have quotes here tonight.
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I will save them for next week. But I will tell you this, that
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the Greeks, the Gentiles, the Romans, of course, Greeks and
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Romans fall under the umbrella of Gentiles, but specifically
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those of the Greek and Roman cultures of which Corinth was a
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mixture of both of those being in Greece.
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But yet under the Roman occupation that there was no
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problem in Corinth to be able to do whatever you wanted to
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physically. There was no thought about it.
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In fact, there was really no stigma whatsoever.
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Remember that there was that great temple to Diana and that
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there was that great temple that was there.
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And in that temple, I'm sorry, not to Diana, to Aphrodite,
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there was that great temple that was there.
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Diana was in Ephesus and there and in that were all of these
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temple prostitutes and people from all over the world, men,
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sailors from all over the world, where they would come to Corinth
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to be able to indulge themselves.
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And this was commonplace. But here's what Paul's saying.
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Even the Gentiles would say what you're doing is wrong.
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What you are tolerating within the church.
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Even the Gentiles who have no problem with this such thing
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would say this is a bridge too far.
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Paul says, don't you understand what's going on among you?
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And here's the problem. It's not just the fact that this
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gentleman is engaged in this activity.
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By the way, he was no gentleman, but he was engaged in this
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activity with a woman that seems to be not part of the church
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from how this is phrased here in this chapter.
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But it was the fact that they were puffed up about it.
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Look at verse #2 ye are puffed up and not have rather mourned.
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Look at what it says in verse 6. Your glorying is not good.
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They were puffed up about it. They were glorying in it.
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What were they doing? Well, they had to have been of
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this nature that they were saying something along these
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lines. Aren't we a really open minded
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people? Isn't it great that we are so
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tolerant? Does that sound familiar to
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anybody's culture today? Isn't it just great to be
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tolerant? Isn't it just great to just,
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hey, whoever you want to love, however you want to love him?
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Listen, it's completely and totally up to you.
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Now again, I want to be very careful how I say this tonight
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so it doesn't come across as being insensitive, but I have to
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be clear about what the Word of God says tonight.
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God is the one who decides what love is, not man.
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God has decided in His Word what is love and what is lust.
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We looked at 2nd Samuel 13 a few weeks ago.
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There's this man Amnon who was vexed.
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This man Amnon who had this burning desire within him.
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He called it love. The Bible called it lust, He
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called it love. The Bible called it absolute and
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utter grotesqueness that there was nothing loving about it.
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No, mankind does not get to decide for itself, for himself
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what love is, just as much as this is His church and He
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decides what activity is here and not.
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We don't get to decide what love is.
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Listen, He decides, has decided, He has shown it to us.
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Greater love hath no man than this man lay down his life for
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his friends. Romans chapter 5.
Romans 5 chapter mention
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He is the living example of love.
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We cannot sully love by trying to put our own definition or our
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own spin on it. And we expect the world to do
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that. But here's the problem.
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It's happening right here in the church, and they're proud of it.
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They're proud of it. This is a problem.
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What are we going to do? Well, it's just about being
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tolerant. Pastor, let me ask you this.
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Should you be tolerant of an infection?
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Would you ever be tolerant of cancer?
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Well, I know the cancer cells are within me, but I'm just
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really a tolerant person. That's foolishness.
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That's falling. Sin is the infection.
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Sin is cancerous, You say? Well, why would you make that
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assumption? Well, because the Word of God
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says it. Your glory is not good.
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Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
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Now, I don't know if you've ever made bread before.
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I I love Kaylee making bread. I love Diane making bread.
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I really love eating bread. If I ever had to go gluten free,
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like if I end up having a gluten intolerance, I'll be just like,
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Lord, take me now. I don't know what I would do.
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I really don't know what I would do.
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But it's amazing to me how you can have just that little ball
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of dough and put just a little leaven inside of it and what
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happens? Put in a dark place, a little
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bit warm, and over a period of just a few minutes, what it do?
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It'll rise up, won't it? You punch it down, you cover it
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up, and it does it again, over and over again.
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Do you know why we can't be tolerant of sin in a church
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setting? Why?
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Why can't we just be tolerant? Just let everybody do what they
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want to do as long as they believe in Jesus?
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Do you know why a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump when
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it's allowed to remain unchecked?
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Nobody is unscathed. By the way, that may be true to
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church. That's true to life as well.
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Well, I mean, pastor, it's not really a big deal.
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It's a it's a small sin. Listen, we don't register sins
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by how small or how big they are.
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Sin is a transgression against God.
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And little sins don't just turn into big sins.
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Little sins unconfessed can turn into any sin.
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Did you get that? Little sins unconfessed can turn
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into any sin. People don't typically go to do
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some of the things that an Amnon and a Tamar or an Amnon did with
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Tamar rather or this man did here in First Corinthians
1 Corinthians 5 chapter mention
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chapter 5. They don't do that without.
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Their going through a lot of speed bumps and going through a
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lot of barriers that God tries to put in their place.
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And instead of slowing down and repenting, what do they do?
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They hit the gas. So when you have an unrepentant
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heart, what happens? There's really no barrier.
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Well, I wouldn't go that far. Well, if you're unrepentant,
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don't say how far you wouldn't go, because you don't know the
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total depravity of your flesh and what you will be do and what
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you will be willing to do if you refuse to repent.
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So there's some reasons for church discipline.
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What is it that there is a sin? That has been allowed to fester
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within the church. It's publicly known.
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Now you say this little pastor, that means if everyone sins in
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the church, everyone has to be brought before the church and
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church discipline. And the answer to that is
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absolutely not for several reasons.
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One, this is not a private. Sin.
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Typically, private sins are handled privately.
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Public sins are handled publicly because if they are not
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acknowledged, again, not in a way that is just trying to get a
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pound of flesh from someone, not trying to make a spectacle of
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someone, but just so the church knows that sin cannot be
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tolerated in a very public way. And by the way, may I remind you
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again, this is not the first thing that's done.
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It is the last resort to turn rebellion into repentance.
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It is the very last thing to be done.
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Not the very first thing. We'll see that in just a moment.
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By the way, when it comes to pastors, the standard's a little
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bit different. When it comes to pastors, the
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standard's a little bit higher. What does that mean?
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Well, they're going to be private things within my own
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life that if I was a violation of first Timothy chapter #3
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Titus chapter one, that it would be likely that I would have to
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go before the church. And to be able to tell someone
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that I was disqualified from being a pastor, say, well, if
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it's private, it needs rare. But I wouldn't be able to stand
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behind this desk and preach the word of God.
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I'm not saying that would be something that would take place
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forever, but it would have to be something that would be dealt
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with. And so pastorally, there is a
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little bit of a different issue because of the very specific
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requirements of First Timothy chapter 3 and Titus chapter one
1 Timothy 3 chapter mention
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in the life of a pastor. But typically private sins are
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dealt with privately and public sins, things that were done in
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front of all that would be done, dealt with publicly if it could
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not be dealt with any other way. So what's the road map for
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church discipline? Well, that's number two this
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evening, the road map for church discipline.
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It's a very serious thing. What is it not?
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Well, as I mentioned a few moments ago, it's not almost
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shunning. There was a woman from the
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Western Michigan University named Jessica Sullivan who said
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this about Amish shunning. Shunning in Amish society is a
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type of solitary confinement from friends and family in an
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attempt to purify and preserve the Amish faith.
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Shunning is often applied then to members of the community who
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refused to join the church through baptism, which is
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interpreted as a rejection of the community.
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It may also be applied to those who have been baptized into the
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church but lost their way. Also at risk are those that do
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not respect the decision to shun others which are most often
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immediate family members of a shunned individuals.
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So understand this that if someone is shunned in the Amisha
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community, no one can do business with them, no one can
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talk to them, no one can have them in their home.
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And if that is your family member who has been shunned by
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the community and you have. Harbored them in any way, shape
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or form, then you will also be shunned as well.
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Can I tell you that while the Amish would look at that and say
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that that is biblical and that is the way that things should be
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done, there is nothing biblical about Amish shunning.
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While certainly it is important that there is some place, some
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things that are in place, and we'll look at these in just a
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moment, but Amish shunning is not what we're talking about.
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When the Bible talks about church discipline.
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It's not excommunication. I mentioned this a few moments
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ago as well. Well, why is it not
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excommunication? Excommunication is when someone
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has been withheld of the sacraments.
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If you're excommunicated, that doesn't just mean you cannot
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come to church anymore. It literally means this.
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You can no longer receive the sacraments.
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You can no longer have the Lord's Supper.
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You can no longer go to confession.
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Well, what does that mean? Literally, the Catholic Church
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is withholding salvation from you.
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You'll understand that's what's being done because if you can't
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have the sacraments, remember we don't call baptism in the Lord's
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Supper sacraments as Baptist. We call them ordinances because
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they are not salvation giving ordinances.
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What are they? They're just simply an
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ordinance. There's something that we do in
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the church that we've been commanded to do, but they don't
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give salvation. If you are being withheld from
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those things, what is it saying? You cannot be saved until you
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bow the knee, not to God, but to the Catholic Church.
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That was never so vivid as it was in 1077, when, during the
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Investiture Controversy, Pope Gregory the 7th excommunicated
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King Henry the 4th for defying papal authority over appointing
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bishops to have the excommunication lifted.
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King Henry the 4th famously traveled in winter to Canosa
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Castle in northern Italy, where the Pope was staying.
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The Pope had him stand outside, barefoot in the snow.
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For three days, dressed in penitential clothing, seeking
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forgiveness. It was only at that time that
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Gregory eventually lifted the excommunication.
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Say, why would someone stand in the snow for three days?
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Well, if you thought you were going to lose your chance at
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eternal life, you do it too. Church discipline is not.
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Text communication. Remember, church discipline is
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the true last resort to turn rebellion into repentance.
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It's not worth holding eternal life.
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It's not meant to be punitive or hurting someone for the
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satisfaction of hurting someone just to get your pound of flesh.
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As I mentioned a few minutes ago, it's not to hold someone up
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in front of the church and point at them and laugh at them and
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mock at them. Listen, it's something that is
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done with a heavy heart. Can it be done the wrong way?
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Absolutely. Can disciplining a child be done
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the wrong way? You better believe.
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It. But does that mean a child
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shouldn't be disciplined? Can church discipline be done
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wrong? It can, It has, and some of you
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may even have witnessed it in the past.
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But that doesn't. Mean it's wrong if it's done
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with the right heart. Warren Weirsby said this about
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church discipline. Church discipline is not a group
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of pious policemen out to catch a criminal.
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Rather, it's a group of broken hearted brothers and sisters
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seeking to restore an erring member of the family.
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See, the issue is not this. It's not about how quick can we
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get them out the door. The issue is this.
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How quick can we see that we can try to do everything we can to
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get them right with God? Not how quick can we get them
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out the door and hope we never see him again, but how quick can
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we try to help them to get them right with God?
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Now, what does it look like? Well, Matthew 18 gives us the
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procedure to follow. We turn to Matthew chapter 18
Matthew 18 chapter mention
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very quickly. Matthew chapter 18, we'll look
Matthew 18 chapter mention
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at verse 15. It's heavy stuff tonight.
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I understand that I don't have a Tennessee accent.
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You know, I don't have any of that.
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All right, that's I'll throw one of those in there tonight.
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You know, I can't do any of that stuff.
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Actually, AJ is not in here right now.
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So we're good. All right, one time I was
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sitting in the back with him. I don't get to sit with my
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family during church very often, but it was nice to be able to
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sit with my family during missions conferences last week.
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And there was one time Brother Abel said something along the
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lines of, you know, Bream Baptist Church has painted 36
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churches over the years, the 60 years they've been there.
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And AJ, unrelated, just made a lot of noise.
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I don't know what he was doing, but unrelated, he said 36 years,
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you know, 36 churches and and he's sitting in the back goes
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like that, like big deal. You know, it's like, I mean,
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that is a big deal. All right, we missing something.
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There's a battery going. All right, Matthew chapter 18 is
Matthew 18 chapter mention
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where we are. Let's just get right back to it.
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Matthew 18, look at verse #15 here's what we see.
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Moreover. If thy brother shall trespass
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against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him
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alone. If he shall hear thee, thou hast
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came to brother. If someone is found to be within
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a fault, what do you do? You go to them personally and
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you go to them privately and you say this is something that I've
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seen in your life. This is something that that I've
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noticed and as a brother in Christ, as a sister in Christ.
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Who? Loves you who just wants to
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bring this to your attention, not as being a pious policeman
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as Weirsby said, but just as someone who loves you.
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James Chapter 5 trying to restore a brother.
James 5 chapter mention
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This is what I see in you and you pray that that will be it.
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And by the way, 90% of times I have found in church life that
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step #1 handles everything if you're willing to go to someone
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with humility. And by the way, you kind of had
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to step out of your comfort zone a little bit to do that, don't
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you? But to be able to do that takes
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care of it. But if that doesn't work, going
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to them separately #2 you got to go to them with some support.
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Look at what it says. But if he will not hear thee,
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then take with thee one or two more then the mouth of two or
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three witnesses. Every word may be established
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and that were every word being established is important goes
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all the way back to the Old Testament.
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It's why they tried to find 2 witnesses to be able to talk
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against Jesus Christ and say that he was blaspheming because
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of this idea of the Jewish law of having two or three
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witnesses. But the idea here is this.
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Jesus says if you go to him and that doesn't work, bring some
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guys along with you, bring someone else and talk to you,
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say pastor. If you've ever had to do this
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before, unfortunately I have. There have been times in the
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past where having a conversation with someone is a pastor was
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ineffective. And I brought the trustees or I
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brought some trusted men to be able to talk to that man, to be
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able to talk to that family. And in those situations, you
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pray that whatever it is is able to be resolved.
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But first you go to them separate, then you go to them
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with support. But if that doesn't work, the
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number three, look at this. And if we shall neglect, if he
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shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church.
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But if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as
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a heathen man and a public and meaning this there may be a
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point for his own sake. You have to bring this before
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the body and if he doesn't listen to the body.
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If a church again, not saying we're accusing you this.
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This is we're pressing charges against you.
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We want to find you guilty so we can get you out saying we want
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to tell you we're begging you. We want you to get right.
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We're begging you. We want you to make this right.
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And if they still rebel against the love of the church, then the
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Bible says that they are to be removed from the body.
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Now what happens? It says, verse #18 verily I say
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unto you, whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in
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heaven, and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed
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in heaven. Listen what that saying is.
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God has given His church authority to make these
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decisions. As long as they follow His
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precepts and principles, they cannot go rogue.
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They cannot go their own way. As long as they follow what God
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says in His Word, then yes, the church has the authority to be
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able to do this. Listen, you say I don't think
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this is right, Pastor. Well, understand this is
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something that doesn't take place often.
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By God's grace, we pray it never takes place at Liberty Baptist
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Church. In 12 years, it has never taken
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place at Liberty Baptist Church. We've gone to people with step
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number one. We've gone to people with step
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#2 but often times really this, these kind of issues can only be
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handled 3 different ways. One, we pray for repentance.
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We pray for repentance. We want that person to get
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right. This is not an opportunity for
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the pastor to say, you know, I never wanted that person around
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here anyway. This is not a vehicle for the
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pastor to be able to kick people out of the church.
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We pray for repentance. Second, it could lead to
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resignation. Several times I've talked with
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people in step #2 and they refuse to be able to get right.
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And they say this, I don't want to go before the church.
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I'm not going to listen to the church, so I don't want to be
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part of your church anymore. And they willingly and
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voluntarily resign their membership.
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Or third, they have to be brought before the church and to
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be removed. Can I be honest with you?
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I hope I never have to go to step three.
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I pray that in my ministry I never have to be able to see.
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But I will say this have to be willing to follow what God says
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if the situation arises and not to do what man does, which is
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just to run. We don't want to deal with it,
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but. You say well.
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I don't feel like this is right, Pastor.
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I don't feel like this is something.
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That we should be a part of. But understand if you are a
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member of something, there are always rules and rights and
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responsibilities. There always are.
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If you're a member of a church, there are rules, there are
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rights and their responsibilities.
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Listen, we know this in life. If you're a member of a gym.
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There are rules. You can't just go in and do
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whatever you want. I'm, I'm a member of Planet
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Fitness. I went there once, I think like
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6 or 8 months ago. I'm a member of Planet Fitness.
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You know what you can't do? You can't yell and scream when
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you are trying to lift the weights.
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There's an alarm that will go off inside if you yell too much
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inside the gym. Now, that's no, the only time
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I'd be yelling is if I hurt myself.
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All right? But listen, there's rules,
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there's rights. I can use any equipment I want.
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There's responsibilities I need to clean up after myself.
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We understand that when it comes to the gym, there are rules and
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rights and responsibilities. If you're a member of a club, we
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know this. If you're a member of a board,
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there's rules, there's rights and responsibilities.
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Listen, if you if you go to the library, there's rules and
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rights and responsibilities. You know how I know that?
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Because it seems like every few months we have fines at the
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library because we either lose. Books.
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Or bring them late or whatever it is.
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There's responsibilities. Why is it that there are people
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who think that every facet of this world has rules and rights
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and responsibilities, but you can do or say or act however you
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want within God's church? For that's crazy.
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That is absolutely insane that someone would think that they
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could run roughshod over God's church.
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Well, I'll act how I want. The Bible says judge not.
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Well, listen, the Bible says judge not if you want to take a
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big red marker and just do this all over the Bible because it
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also says this judge, righteous judgment.
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Paul says this. I'm not even with you right now,
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but what do you say? I'm judging.
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Where I'm at, I got to judge this.
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Where I'm at, you have not used your judgment.
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You're puffed up. I've got to judge and you got to
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take care of it when you get there.
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Listen, if you don't judge between what's sin and what's
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righteousness, you're a fool. I'm not trying to talk tough.
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I'm really just trying to be serious.
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Well, I'm not going to judge between what's righteous and
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unrighteous. I'm just going to live my life.
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That's foolish talk, and we've got to be the.
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Same way in the church. Now listen, you better whatever
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effort you put in looking what other people are doing.
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What does the Bible say? You better be putting equal,
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greater effort into your own life.
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For every finger that's pointing out, three fingers are pointing
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back. Remember, unless you're doing
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this and then you can point to people however you want.
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But but what I'm saying is that typically, what do we know?
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Listen, whatever you do, you better judge righteous judgment,
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which means your. Heart's got to be right that
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it's not about I'm going to take this guy out, we're going to
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take this woman out. It's and my heart breaks.
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I want them to get right with God.
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We're going to do everything we can to make sure that they do.
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What's the church's reaction to discipline?
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Let's look at this. Even if it seems unpalatable,
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it's important as a church that we're willing to participate.
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What's the reaction? Well, first of all, what's the
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reaction of the church? There's three things that the
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church needs to do. You can write these down.
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They're not in your outline, but you write these down.
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First of all, there needs to be participation in church
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discipline being this. Who's involved with that?
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The church. Well, pastor, you take care of
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it. You can you see by.
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The third part, the separate supported and then shared the
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pastor's already been through the 1st 2.
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It's the church that needs to gather together.
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It's the church that the one that says we're not going to be
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puffed up. In fact, what did say you were
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puffed up and you're not mourning what?
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What's our heart position? We're mourning over this.
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Our hearts hurt. Our hearts are so heavy over
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what this is. What should the church do?
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They need to participate in church discipline.
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Secondly, pray for the one who is disciplined.
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That person ought to move right up to near the top of your
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prayer list. Pray for them daily.
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Pray for them whenever they come to mind.
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Pray for them that they would listen to what the Lord is doing
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in their life. You say, well, why do we have to
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remove them? Because they need to have every
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safety net removed for them. In fact, it says, if you go back
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to First Corinthians chapter #5 it says that you do so because
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they are being delivered their flesh to Satan.
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Basically the idea is this. You are on your own.
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So they realize I don't want. To be on my own, I need the
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Lord, I need his church so that that person can be saved.
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Not that they were going to fall away and lose their salvation,
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but the idea is, is as they can get back into a right
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relationship with God, we're to participate, we're to pray, but
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also we're to persuade the one who's disciplined.
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Listen, I've seen churches, when someone's in a church
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discipline, the pastor says this, don't talk to him.
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Don't have them over to your house.
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Don't fellowship with him. And then if someone does, the
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pastor will put the same curse, if you will, on the people who
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decided to fellowship with them. First Corinthians chapter 5 says
1 Corinthians 5 chapter mention
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this near the end of the chapter.
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It says it says not to eat with them.
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But I will say this. I believe that's really talking
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about in First Corinthians chapter #11 the Lord's Supper.
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It says don't keep company with them.
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It says that twice for that company means this, to be mixed
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together mean this, that if they're going to persuade you,
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you need to cut off ties. But if you see them at the
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grocery store, don't pretend you didn't see them.
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Don't. If they're your family member,
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have them over for supper. Don't cut them out of your life.
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Listen. They need somebody who's willing
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to be strong in their life to be able to do so.
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Now listen. If they're your best friend,
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there's going to be a string. There's going to be, but that
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doesn't mean you never talked to him again.
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The Bible does make clear that we need to cut ties in certain
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ways, but that doesn't mean that we just pretend like they don't
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exist. Listen, if they want to get
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right with the Lord, they need to know they can find you.
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They need to know that you were the one that would be able to
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help them to that which is good and right for the gym sitting in
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the back here tonight. And he knows this because he is
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the one who does all the cards, the birthday cards.
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You all thought that was me, right?
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But but the handwriting forensic analysis says Jim Weatherby is
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the one who does it. He's asked me here and there
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about people who've left the church, sometimes angry.
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And he'll say not during church discipline, but just the idea
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they've got left and it's not great.
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He says, should we still send them a card?
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And I said, send them till they say return to sender.
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Let them know we're still here. They still have birthdays, they
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still have anniversaries. It's OK if they throw it away.
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Then we just wasted 4950. I don't remember how much the
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stamp is anymore. What time is it?
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OK. It keeps changing.
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But I do know this. It's OK if you see someone just
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out and about. It's OK.
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Believe it or not, your pastor sees people who have left the
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church at Walmart, at Shaw's. And you know what I do?
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You say you yell at him. Yeah, yeah.
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Curse him out in Jesus name. Of course, right?
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You know, you just go down another aisle because you don't
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want to see him. And what I like to do is do the
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exact opposite what they expect me to do, which is walk up to
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them, smile, shake their hand. And as I'm walking up to them,
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praying to the Lord that I'm not being fake or trying to prove a
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point, just that, hey, it's good to see, you know why?
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Because someday that person might have someone in their
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family that dies. Someday that person might be in
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the hospital. And if they call me, do you know
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what I'm going to do? I'm going to go check on them.
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They say, but but they didn't, they didn't treat you right.
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They didn't treat the church right.
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Well, this might be the way that they are able to come back to
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the Lord. If they're not right with the
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Lord, there's a responsibility laid on us all.
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Get don't make them your best friend when they're gone, but
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don't cut them out of your life. If there's a way that you can be
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a persuasive element for that which is right, do so, but be
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careful. But what's the job of the
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offender? Well, the job of the offender is
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to be removed and to get right, and it's the prayer of the
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church that they are to be repentant.
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Their isolation should help them realize their need to get right
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with God. Their support system of people
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affirming their behavior disappears.
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They should come to realize their need to return to Christ.
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It is an act of love if it's done properly.
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It's an act of love if it's done properly, just as much as
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discipline to a child as an act of love is done properly.
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Then we just read Hebrews chapter 12 a few weeks ago on a
Hebrews 12 chapter mention
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Sunday morning. What is that?
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That's God chastising us when we need it.
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In the end, we're to mourn the sin, judge the sin, and purge
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the sin. This is church discipline.
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Now. I'm going to give you just a
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couple more moments and then we're done.
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Pastor, have you ever seen church discipline?
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Once I was saved and I was baptized and I was in Westgate
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Baptist Church for two weeks. I've never been, I don't know
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that I've ever been to a Sunday night service.
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I've been to very few Sunday night services.
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If I had in the Sunday night, Pastor Turn says it's gonna be a
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little bit of a different service tonight.
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And boy, was he right. There was a gentleman, and I'm
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going to withhold the name because this gentleman is still
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alive, but there's a gentleman who over a long period of time
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had been stealing from the church offerings.
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The ushers had been all taking the offerings to one man who
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then deposited in the safe. One problem with that, that one
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man had total access to the funds before it went in the
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safe. There's a reason we always have
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two people with the offerings here at Liberty Baptist Church
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that any organization would do well to do so.
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What this gentleman did not realize was that after a period
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of time where there's some some suspicion, a small camera was
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placed near the safe. He was called in the pastor's
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office. Pastor Turner says, calls him by
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name. I know you've been stealing the
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offerings. I need you to admit it now, He
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says. It's not true.
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I can't even imagine why you would say that.
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And he slid over Avhs cassette. That's the time frame we're
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talking about. He slid over VHS cassette.
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And he says this tape says you have been.
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And he said, well, looks like you caught me.
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Totally rebellious, brought before the deacons, rebellious.
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The next and final step was to bring him before the church.
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There had to be an accounting. And for some reason he decided
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he was willing to go before the church.
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He went before the church that night.
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I think the reason I think he did so was to try to save face.
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He was brought before the church in a very loving manner, but was
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brought forth for discipline. He said he repented, he got
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right, the church came around him and gathered around him and
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prayed. Now it was clear that he had to
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make restitution down to the penny, but the church prayed for
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him and it was a beautiful scene for an 18 year old to see.
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The problem was that he wasn't truly repentant, never paid a
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penny back, and a few weeks later it skipped town and was
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gone. I saw church discipline, you
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say? Well, it didn't work, pastor.
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It did in the sense that it protected the church from
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further damage. It worked.
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Not the way we wanted it to, but it worked.
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Don't you kind of wish you knew what happened to this guy?
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I mean, what he did was bad. You can read it was bad.
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Don't you wish you knew what happened to him?
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We've got good news, the Bible tells us.
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Second Corinthians chapter #2 and then we're done.
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I can't, I can't skip over this part. 2nd Corinthians, chapter
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number two, obviously, Second Corinthians chapter.
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Second Corinthians, second letter.
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Paul writes back to them after First Corinthians.
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Who it says, But I determined this with myself, that I would
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not come again to you in heaviness.
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For if I made you sorry, who is he then that maketh me glad, but
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the same which is made sorry by me.
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And I wrote the same unto you, lest when I came, I should have
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sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice, having confidence in
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you all, that my joy is the joy of you all.
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For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto
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you with many tears. So what was Paul saying before?
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I was saddened, I had tears, I had anguish over what was taking
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place, But that you might know the love which I have more
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abundantly unto you. But if any have caused grief, he
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has not grieved me, but in part that I might not overcharge you.
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All sufficient to such a man is this punishment which was
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inflicted of many. Hold on a second, what is he
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saying? There's an issue that took place
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before it sorrowed my heart, but it was done in love.
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And it was an issue of someone who an affliction, A punishment
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was inflicted upon this person by many people.
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Well, who was it? The only answer to that is the
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man from First Corinthians chapter 5 who the church had
1 Corinthians 5 chapter mention
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removed. Well, what happened?
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So that contrary wise you might, you ought rather to forgive him
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and comfort him, lest perhaps such an one should be swallowed
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up with over much sorrow. Wherefore, I beseech you, that
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you would confirm your love toward us.
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What is Paul saying here? He says this man's in a place
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that now he needs to know we're going to rally around him.
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I believe it makes clear here this man got right with the
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Lord. This man was restored to
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fellowship within the church. And he said this, make sure he
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knows that you love him. And until I get back, make sure
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he knows that I love him too. 2nd Thessalonians for chapter 3,
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verse 14 and 15. If any man obey not our word by
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this epistle, note that man have no company with him.
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There's that word company again, that mixing, that he may be
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ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy,
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but admonish him as a brother. Say, pastor, what does all this
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have to do with me tonight? I'm not even under church
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discipline. You said no one's here under
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church discipline tonight. So what does it have to do with
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me? And I remind you what I said at
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the very beginning. Small sins don't just lead to
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big sins. Small sins unconfessed can lead
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to any sin. We're looking at the last
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resort. What should be our first option
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to get our knees every time we sin and get right with the Lord.
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We have a rule at our house that Diane instituted a while ago for
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the kids. If it takes less than 60 seconds
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to pick it up, then pick it up. If it takes longer than that, we
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can do it later. So there's a pile of clothes, 60
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seconds, more than 60 seconds, we'll do that later.
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If there's a toy that's in the wrong place under 60 seconds,
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you got time to put it away, you know?
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I think it. Ought to be something similar
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for us in our Christian life. Not that we need to wait until
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later, but boy doesn't it get harder the longer we wait to get
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right with the Lord? How much easier would it be to
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say, well, instead of just confessing my sins once a day or
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once a week, how about now when it's small in the sense that
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it's just this one, Let me get it right with the Lord right
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now. Lord, I shouldn't have cussed.
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Will you forgive me? Lord, I knew I popped off of
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that guy, will you forgive me? Lord, I knew I told tell a
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little white lie, but it's still a lie.
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Will you forgive me? Lord, I knew I shouldn't have
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got angry at the kids like I did.
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Will you forgive me, Church discipline?
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Listen, for most of us, that's a faraway thing.
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But where are we today? Well, we need to make sure we
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confess our sins on a daily basis because He's faithful and
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just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all
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unrighteousness. And that's what church
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discipline is all about. Let's take care of it far before
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any of us ever have to see that within our own lives or anywhere
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here within Liberty Baptist Church.
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Thank you for listening to the sermon from the pulpit of
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Liberty Baptist Church. If this message was a blessing
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to you, or if there's any way we can serve you, please let us
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know by contacting us at [email protected].
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Or you can visit us this Sunday at 800 Washington St. in Easton,
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MA. May the Lord bless you as you
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grow in His Word.