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Week 31: So, What Exactly Is the Catholic Church? | April 26, 2026 Sunday School

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  1. Welcome to the Liberty Baptist Sermon Archives.

  2. The message you're about to hear was preached at Liberty Baptist

  3. Church in Easton, MA. You can find out more about us

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  6. message from God's Word will be a blessing to you.

  7. Glad to be back with you here today.

  8. And if you would turn your Bibles, please, to Matthew

  9. chapter #16 We're at an interesting spot in our series

  10. right now because we're looking at world religions and cults.

  11. We have now for really almost a year, but we're getting

  12. ourselves to the place where we're kind of tailing to the end

  13. of our series. And we have to ask ourselves a

  14. question this. So as we study world religions

  15. and cults, what exactly is the Catholic Church?

  16. But many have who are here have had experience with the Catholic

  17. Church. Maybe growing up in the Catholic

  18. Church or having extended family of which are part of it,

  19. certainly is very much part of the culture here in New England

  20. where we are. Every town has a parish, or you

  21. could be like Easton, which has two different parishes in

  22. Northeastern and Southeastern. And so there is much in our

  23. culture that is steeped in Catholicism here in New England.

  24. And so we do have to ask ourselves, when it comes to

  25. world religions and cults, where exactly does the Roman Catholic

  26. Church fall? Now I understand, and this may

  27. be a sensitive issue for some, I do want to talk about it in a

  28. way that is, I hope, as we have done with all of the world

  29. religions and cults, that is compassionate.

  30. But yet at the very same time, we must proclaim the truth of

  31. God's word for what it is. We must speak the word for what

  32. it is. And as the Bible says, we speak

  33. the truth and love, Amen. And so it's important for us to

  34. be able to do so to not hold back on the truth, but yet also

  35. to present in such a way that I hope that you could share this

  36. video and maybe the next few videos that we do, the next few

  37. lessons with friend, the neighbor, a family member, and

  38. to be able to show them what the Bible says about Catholicism.

  39. And so really the issue comes down to this.

  40. And this is what we'll look at today when it comes to the issue

  41. of faith in Christ. Is it all about the Scripture or

  42. is it Scripture plus tradition? Because as we as Bible believing

  43. Baptist, we would say today that it's all about the Scripture,

  44. isn't it? If the Scripture says it, we

  45. believe it. If the Scripture doesn't say it,

  46. well, then we don't believe it. But for the Catholic Church and

  47. for our Catholic friends, it is Scripture plus tradition that

  48. all come together to make up what is the faith for the

  49. Catholic Church. And so we want to approach this

  50. with discernment and charity, not contempt.

  51. It's not my desire to make fun of those that are part of the

  52. Catholic Church. That's not my desire in any way,

  53. shape or form. But at the same time, we do need

  54. to address what is the Catholic Church and where does it fall

  55. within our studies. Now by the Catholic Churches own

  56. tally, we don't know exactly how many Catholics there are, but

  57. some estimate that it's somewhere around 1 billion

  58. adherence to the Catholic faith out of the 8 billion or so who

  59. live here on this earth. And there are some things that

  60. we have in common with Catholicism.

  61. Quite honestly. We think about the Trinity, we

  62. think about the bodily resurrection of Christ.

  63. We we say the inspiration of Scripture that even the

  64. Catholics would say that scripture is inspired.

  65. It's what they say after that that is problematic.

  66. But there are many similarities to where we could sit down and

  67. talk with a Catholic and be able to find some common ground.

  68. We understand that, that even in the most grossest of errors,

  69. we've looked at things like Hinduism and we've looked at

  70. things like the Muslim faith that we find that, well, yeah,

  71. there is some kernels of truth that are able to be found and

  72. there. And certainly when it comes to

  73. the Catholic Church, there are certain doctrines that we could

  74. talk about and find that we have so much in common.

  75. But yet the issue is that Rome over the years has added to

  76. Scripture a body of tradition of Sacramento, theology of the

  77. doctrine of worship and prayer to Mary, papal authority, the

  78. Saints and prayers to Saints, all of these different things

  79. that have been added on top of the word of God.

  80. And that's just a very short list that we could present to

  81. you this morning. So the central issue really

  82. comes down to authority. What is the final authority for

  83. Christian faith and practice? So this morning we are going to

  84. look at the issue of is Catholicism A cult or a false

  85. religion? This is the question of which we

  86. will ask ourselves this morning. The Catholic answer again is

  87. Scripture plus sacred tradition, that which has been passed down

  88. from the Church fathers, that which is dogma coming from the

  89. Pope who speaks ex cathedra, meaning that he speaks on the

  90. behalf of Jesus Christ when he speaks in such a way.

  91. But maybe we ask ourselves where do we find the foundation of the

  92. Catholic Church? And the answer is it's actually

  93. found in Scripture, but it's actually Scripture that is

  94. interpreted in error. And so I want us to look at that

  95. this morning to get a better understanding of exactly where

  96. this tradition comes from. So Matthew chapter 16 is where

    Matthew 16 chapter mention

  97. we'll start here this morning in verse #13 I've double checked

  98. all my references today, so hopefully we're in good shape.

  99. I'll write Matthew chapter 16 and beginning in verse #13 Now

    Matthew 16 chapter mention

  100. this is a text we looked at just recently in our Sunday morning

  101. services. And we're looking at a little

  102. bit of a different light today, again with the thought process

  103. of the foundation of the Catholic Church being assigned

  104. to this text. But yet that has been assigned

  105. incorrectly. So look at verse #13.

  106. It says when Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he

  107. asked his disciples, saying, whom do men say that I, the Son

  108. of Man, AM? And they said, some say that

  109. thou art John the Baptist, some Elias and others Jeremias or one

  110. of the prophets. He saith unto them, but whom say

  111. ye that I am? And I'll remind you here again

  112. this morning that really the issue of who Jesus is is not who

  113. your parents thought he was, or what family you got born into or

  114. what family grow up into. It really comes down to this.

  115. What think ye of Christ that all of us are personally accountable

  116. for the faith. And so here is Peter in one of

  117. those moments where you just say, Peter, you said it good

  118. this time he says this, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the

  119. living God. Now I want you to focus here on

  120. Peter for just a moment because there is is a thought process

  121. that Peter was the first Pope. This is a question or rather

  122. this is a doctrine of which the Catholic Church believes that

  123. what is taking place here in just a moment in Matthew chapter

    Matthew 16 chapter mention

  124. 16 is Peter becoming the first Pope because Jesus answered

  125. verse 17 and said unto him, Blessed art thou sign in

  126. Barjona, for flesh and blood had not revealed it unto thee, but

  127. my Father, which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, thou

  128. art Peter. And a on this rock I will build

  129. my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

  130. And I will give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of heaven.

  131. And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in

  132. heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be

  133. loosed in heaven. So here is Jesus according to

  134. the Catholic Church, being ordained as the first Pope of

  135. what will be the Catholic. And by the way, the word

  136. Catholic simply means universal, meaning that they just look at

  137. the Catholic Church as the only true church.

  138. That the Catholic Church will be headed up very first by Peter,

  139. who will be considered the first Pope, that he will be the rock,

  140. the foundation of the church. But then also he will have the

  141. keys to the Kingdom as well, as you can see represented there in

  142. a picture by that large key of which he's holding.

  143. Now there's several problems with the Catholic Church

  144. founding being assigned to Matthew chapter 16.

    Matthew 16 chapter mention

  145. The 1st is this, that Jesus Christ was not saying that Peter

  146. would be the rock of which the church was built upon.

  147. That is not what is being said here.

  148. He says, I will say also unto thee, that thou art Peter.

  149. Now the Greek word for Peter is Petrus, which means a very small

  150. stone or a Pebble. So Peter, thou art Peter.

  151. Remember this is the name has been assigned to him by Christ.

  152. Thou art Peter, you are a Pebble, and upon this rock I

  153. will build my church. Now the Greek word for rock in

  154. verse #18 is Petra, meaning a bedrock or a massive foundation.

  155. So Jesus is not saying that Peter is the rock that the

  156. church can be built upon, because if that's the case,

  157. you're building upon a Pebble and you can't build a whole lot

  158. on a Pebble. Amen.

  159. But what he is saying is this, thou art Peter, you are a small

  160. rock and upon this rock I will build my church.

  161. And I believe when Jesus saying upon this rock, he is saying the

  162. bedrock principle of what Jesus just or whether what Peter just

  163. confessed, what was the confession that thou art the

  164. Christ, the Son of the living God.

  165. Is the church built upon Peter? No.

  166. Is the church built upon the fact that Jesus Christ is the

  167. Son of the living God? Yes, that is what our church is

  168. built upon. That's what all true churches

  169. are built upon. Thou art Peter, you are small,

  170. but your confession is great. And this confession is what the

  171. church will be built upon. Now Peter himself that that's

  172. the first problem, is that Jesus is not saying that Peter will be

  173. the Pope. He is saying that Peter is the

  174. Pebble, and that his declaration, his confession, was

  175. great and large, that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living

  176. God. The second problem that we have

  177. here is this. Peter himself did not consider

  178. himself to be the foundation. We find in first Peter chapter 2

    1 Peter 2 chapter mention

  179. verses #4 and 4 through 6 that Peter makes very clear that

  180. Christ is the chief cornerstone. Peter does not take this upon

  181. himself. You can go back to to even in

  182. Galatians chapter 2. We talked about this a few weeks

    Galatians 2 chapter mention

  183. ago when Peter was with stood in the face by Paul and Paul told

  184. him you're doing wrong and that what you are doing an infallible

  185. Pope does not get corrected by a fellow apostle.

  186. But yet here's Peter or who is corrected by Paul.

  187. We see that Paul was in error and he was not infallible in any

  188. way. In fact, in first Peter chapter

    1 Peter 5:1

  189. 5, verse 1, he calls himself a fellow elder.

  190. This is the way he looked himself.

  191. I'm just a pastor like other pastors.

  192. I'm not holding myself to a higher standard than other

  193. pastors and I'm over other pastors in a papal way.

  194. No, I'm simply just Peter, a man who is a servant of Christ.

  195. So, so there's several problems here.

  196. There's the problem of the, the issue of, of what the church was

  197. built upon and it was built upon the confession of Peter.

  198. There's the issue of Peter himself saying, I'm not the

  199. foundation of the church. There's also the issue of the

  200. keys, the Kingdom verse #19 it says, and I shall give unto thee

  201. the keys of the Kingdom of heaven.

  202. And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in

  203. heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt loose

  204. on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

  205. And the Pope's of the day. And there have been hundreds of

  206. popes that have taken place and the numbers of popes that can't

  207. really be reckoned properly because there were sometimes

  208. splinter popes and there was at some time three different popes

  209. at the same time, each one claiming different authorities.

  210. And so it was very hard to be able to pin down exactly how

  211. many there were. And all of them claim to have

  212. these keys, the Kingdom, that whatever they say that they are

  213. saying on behalf of Jesus Christ, in fact, they would

  214. consider themselves to be the very vicar of Christ.

  215. You say, what does that word the vicar of Christ mean?

  216. That on earth they are Christ. Christ is not here right now,

  217. but in Christ's place is the Pope.

  218. Now you don't have to know a lot about the Bible to know that

  219. that should bother you, that that is blasphemous, that a man

  220. could claim to be the very representation of Jesus Christ

  221. on earth, that Jesus Christ is basically embodied in this man.

  222. Now there's Catholics who will say that's not what we believe.

  223. They may not believe that, but that's what their church

  224. teaches. And that's the issue, that there

  225. are many good Catholics in the sense that they don't believe

  226. those kind of things. But yet at the same time, that's

  227. what their church teaches, whether they realize it or not,

  228. that He is the very representation of Christ, that

  229. He can forgive sins just as Christ forgave sins.

  230. This blasphemy in the highest order, but he's the vicar of

  231. Christ. This is what's taught.

  232. But he has these keys to the Kingdom, it said, but really the

  233. keys, the Kingdom can be assigned to the fact that when

  234. you look in the book of Acts that there were three different

  235. times the Holy Spirit came down in a very major way.

  236. You look at the day of Pentecost, that the day of

  237. Pentecost when all those folks were saved, the Holy Spirit came

  238. down. You find in Acts chapter 8 that

    Acts 8 chapter mention

  239. when Peter was there that the Samaritans received Christ in

  240. the first time in a very major way and the Holy Spirit, it came

  241. down in a unique way. And then later on while Peter

  242. was talking to Cornelius, the man who had the Italian band,

  243. remember that was not a band like playing instruments, but

  244. that was the the soldiers that were together and and the Holy

  245. Spirit came down again. Every time you see the Holy

  246. Spirit come down to the Jews, to the Samaritans, to the Gentiles.

  247. Those are the three people groups because remember you have

  248. Jews and Gentiles and Samaritans are a mix of Jew and Gentile.

  249. Every single time that that was the case.

  250. Who was there? Peter.

  251. I would say that he was exercising those keys to the

  252. Kingdom at that point, showing that the gospel being given to

  253. the Jews, the gospel being given to the Samaritans, the gospel

  254. being given to the Gentiles. I'm not saying that no one was

  255. saved before that, but I'm saying that the Holy Spirit came

  256. down and filled those believers at that time, and Peter was

  257. there for each of those things. It would seem to me that that

  258. makes more sense of what is taking place with the keys to

  259. the Kingdom than saying that he becomes an infallible vicar of

  260. Christ when we show that, well, he was very fallible and still

  261. made mistakes. Because if you're a person, you

  262. are fallible and you make mistakes.

  263. And so, no, we would disagree with the fact that Peter was the

  264. first Pope there. There is no historical evidence

  265. that Peter was ever in Rome. There was no historical evidence

  266. that he ever claimed to be the first Pope.

  267. These are things that have been assigned to him hundreds and

  268. hundreds of of years later. So we ask ourselves going into

  269. where does these things come from?

  270. You say, pastor, you mentioned some of these things already

  271. that we would disagree with our Catholic friends about.

  272. Where does this teaching come from?

  273. You say tradition, but is that encoded anywhere?

  274. Is that can that be found anywhere?

  275. And the answer is yes, that you find that the Catechism, the

  276. Catholic Church Catechism, the CCC, the Catechism of the

  277. Catholic Church holds the doctrines of which the Catholic

  278. Church believes. And in many ways the Catechism

  279. of the Church holds the same authority as the Bible.

  280. Now again, there will be some of our Catholic friends that would

  281. hold their their heads and maybe scream and say that's not what

  282. we believe. But the proof is in the pudding

  283. whether they actually believe that or not that the Church, the

  284. Catholic Church teaches that what you find in the catechism

  285. is equivalent to the Word of God.

  286. Why? Because tradition holds the

  287. same, and I would even argue holds higher standard to

  288. Catholics than the Word of God. Now, the Catechism of the

  289. Catholic Church states that Scripture and tradition must be

  290. accepted with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.

  291. I'm going to say that again, because again, that's a

  292. blasphemous statement. Scripture and tradition must be

  293. accepted with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.

  294. But what do we find that the Bible says?

  295. Well, the Bible makes clear in second Timothy verse chapter 3,

  296. verse 60 and seven. All Scripture is given by

  297. inspiration of God is probable for doctrine, for reproof, for

  298. correction, for instruction and righteousness, that the man of

  299. God may be perfect or complete, fully thoroughly furnished unto

  300. all good works. Meaning that everything that you

  301. need can be found in this book right here.

  302. No pastor, there's things that go on in this world today that

  303. can't be found in the Bible. Everything that we need for our

  304. life can be found in precept or in principle in the word of God.

  305. Sure, the Internet, I mentioned this a few so sure the Internet

  306. is not found in the word of God. Gambling.

  307. Oh, I guess gambling is found in the word of God.

  308. Online gambling is not found in the word of God.

  309. There's some gambling in the Word of God that gambled for

  310. Jesus, garments, nicotine, marijuana.

  311. Where do you find these things in the Bible?

  312. Well, you don't find them necessarily in precept, but you

  313. find them in principle. And so we always go to the Word

  314. of God, that it's not the word of the pastor and the Word of

  315. God. It's the word of God.

  316. It's not the word of the Pope. It's not the latest tweets from

  317. the Pope and the Word of God. It is the word of God and the

  318. word of God alone. Now again, according to the

  319. Catholic Church Catechism, the Roman Pontiff, the Pope when

  320. speaking ex cathedra enjoys infallibility, meaning that when

  321. the Pope speaks ex cathedra, he speaks without error and speaks

  322. on behalf of God. Now, I want to be clear about

  323. this. The Pope, as he speaks, you say,

  324. pastor, I hear the Pope saying all kinds of things, not just

  325. this Pope, but the other Pope's. So every time he speaks, he's

  326. perfect. To be clear, that's not what

  327. Catholic doctrine teaches because I know the Pope's been

  328. in the news for comments he's made the last few weeks.

  329. That doesn't mean that every time that he speaks, he speaks

  330. with the words of Christ in their own doctrine.

  331. The last time that Pope has spoken ex cathedral was actually

  332. back in 1950, and it was in part about Mary Ology, including the

  333. Assumption of Mary, meaning that Mary didn't die in the

  334. traditional sense, but that she was just assumed up.

  335. And that because she is, we'll see in just a little while,

  336. worshipped as Christ in many ways that the last spoken ex

  337. cathedra, the last time the ex cathedral was spoken by the Pope

  338. was in reference to Mary Ology. Now you say, well, 1950 pastor,

  339. that's 76 years ago. So it can't be that big of a

  340. deal. The fact that that's even on the

  341. table, the fact that there could even be the thought that the

  342. Pope speaks and if he says so that it's equivalent to the

  343. Bible ought to be enough to make a Catholic head for the hills.

  344. Could you imagine if I got up here today and said, I know what

  345. your Bible says, but listen to me as your pastor because what I

  346. say is as true as the Bible and I say it and it comes from Jesus

  347. Christ himself, from him to me, to you, that you need to leave

  348. and I need to sell shoes for a living or insurance instead of

  349. being a pastor because I speak with authority when I preach,

  350. but it's not my own authority. It's the Lord through his word

  351. to me, to you. And when I bypass that and teach

  352. something that's on my own without it being in the word of

  353. God, I lose my authority because my authority is found in that

  354. which God has called me to do. But truly, where does that call

  355. even come from? The word of God?

  356. First, Peter chapter 5 makes that very clear what the job of

  357. the pastors do. That's when Peter called himself

  358. a fellow elder that that we're to be elders and and shepherds

  359. of the flock and examples of the flock.

  360. This is what God calls us to do. But Galatians one verse 8 says,

  361. though we are an Angel from heaven, preach any other gospel

  362. unto you than that which we have preached unto you.

  363. Let him be accursed. Mark 713 making the word of God

  364. of none effect through your tradition which you have

  365. delivered, and many such like things, do ye?

  366. What did the Pharisees do? Well, they had added on top of

  367. the word of God. They had the written law, but

  368. they'd also had the oral law. So where did that oral law came

  369. from? The Pharisees.

  370. They said that it was passed down from Moses through them all

  371. the way to the people. Now here's the problem.

  372. How were you able to find out the moral law or the oral law?

  373. Rather well, because it wasn't written down.

  374. The only way you could find out was to have a Pharisee teach

  375. you. Well, how do we know if the

  376. Pharisees teach you right? You just have to trust them.

  377. Don't compare it to the Word of God, just listen to the

  378. Pharisees. They'll tell you what you need

  379. to know. Does that not sound a lot like

  380. the Catholic Church of today? Well, where do we find the

  381. Bible? Don't worry about it.

  382. There's some other things that you need to know too.

  383. Where can I find out these other things?

  384. You can't find them anywhere else.

  385. You can only find them through US.

  386. Well, should I read it for myself?

  387. Don't worry about reading it for yourself.

  388. We'll tell you that what you need to know.

  389. And the Catholic Church for years has discouraged people

  390. from reading their own Bible. Why?

  391. Because you don't need to know. The priest will tell you what

  392. you need to know, and you follow along.

  393. Can you see how damaging that type of doctrine is when you can

  394. listen to a message here at Liberty Baptist Church by the

  395. grace of God and what's my job? To do well, to preach the word

  396. of God. And then you can go home like

  397. the Bereans in Acts chapter 17. And you know what you can do?

    Acts 17 chapter mention

  398. You can search the scriptures for yourself to see if that

  399. which I said is so there have been times that people have come

  400. up to me over the years. I try to be careful in that

  401. which I preach. I try to be very careful to to

  402. divide rightly the word of truth.

  403. But there have been a few times over the years that someone

  404. said, pastor, when you said this, did you really mean this

  405. or pastor when you said this? I think the Bible says this.

  406. And I can tell you at least a couple times where I've had to

  407. go through and some study on my own and say, you know what?

  408. I'm wrong about that. And when people bring those

  409. accusations to me, and I don't mean an accusatory manner, but

  410. they bring that to me, it's something I take very seriously.

  411. I don't say, well, I'm the pastor, just listen to me.

  412. Well, who does that sound like? We got to be very careful that

  413. we let the word of God speak. And those are things that take

  414. seriously. And sometimes I have to study

  415. some of those issues for a while to be able to make sure I

  416. understand exactly what's being spoken of.

  417. But it has to be the word of God that stands not what we believe

  418. in and of ourselves. But it's all this tradition and

  419. it makes things so confusing. You don't even understand how to

  420. be able to move ahead, to move forward.

  421. What is it to be in the faith? You know, we had this

  422. conversation and some of you have asked and even just

  423. recently, you know, pastor, how do I join the church?

  424. How do I join the church? I'm so glad that the answer,

  425. it's in your bulletin this morning.

  426. I covered it this morning in my article for this week.

  427. But the answer is pretty simple. We go to Acts chapter 2.

    Acts 2 chapter mention

  428. They were saved, they were baptized, they were added unto

  429. them, which is the church. Now, is there more nuance to

  430. that that we can explain through the word of God?

  431. Of course. But it really just comes down to

  432. this. You got to get saved the Bible

  433. way, you got to get baptized the Bible way, and then you were

  434. able to join the church. And we saw what a wonderful

  435. picture of that last week. And to see four that were

  436. baptized and that was awesome. I'm still thankful to the Lord

  437. for that. But when you have tradition and

  438. dogma and church fathers and the catechism that are all speaking

  439. on top of the Bible, something that's exceedingly simple

  440. becomes something very complicated.

  441. And that's pretty much the summary of the Catholic Church

  442. in a nutshell. Something is very simple becomes

  443. something very complicated. So I would ask maybe this

  444. morning to the Catholic Church, how does someone become a member

  445. of the Catholic Church? Now, believe it or not, we're

  446. going to need about a 6 minute video to be able to show you the

  447. answer to that. And you say, Pastor, is it going

  448. to be simple? You just need to watch, All

  449. right, So why don't we go ahead and show that now and then we'll

  450. get back to our study here in a moment.

  451. So. How does someone become

  452. Catholic? In this video, I'm going to give

  453. you the full breakdown from the first practical step to your

  454. final moment of initiation into the church.

  455. Let's get into it. Hey guys And Father David

  456. Michael Moses, I'm a Catholic priest and if you join these

  457. types of videos or if you're joining the Catholic Church, you

  458. might want to subscribe so you don't miss out on future

  459. informative videos. So First off, I would have

  460. thought this was obvious, but I just realized some people don't

  461. know this. We do allow converts in the

  462. Catholic faith. I've seen people saying, oh, I

  463. wish I could join the Catholic Church and it's like, you

  464. totally can. And actually not only do we

  465. allow converts, we want converts.

  466. Jesus said go to all the nations and baptize them in the name of

  467. the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

  468. So the church exists to bring people to communion with Jesus

  469. Christ, who is the way, the truth and the life.

  470. So I have no problem saying I want you to be Catholic.

  471. I want you to have confession and the Eucharist and the

  472. fullness of the truth. One thing I will say is that for

  473. someone joining the Church, we want them to actually want to be

  474. Catholic, not just to do it because other people are doing

  475. it or because it's convenient in some way.

  476. I hope you love the liturgy. I hope you love the Catholic

  477. devotions. I hope you like the Church and

  478. the people, but we really want to be united in what we believe.

  479. So this video is more geared toward an adult who wants to

  480. convert to Catholicism. A baby who is baptized Catholic

  481. is a different story. So if you want to become

  482. Catholic, the first step would be to call your local parish.

  483. It doesn't have to be the parish closest to where you live, but

  484. it would make sense that it is because it would probably be

  485. where you want to go to in the future when you call the Church.

  486. You can ask them about the OCIA program.

  487. OCIA stands for Order of Christian Initiation for Adults.

  488. It was just recently changed from RCIA, so you might hear

  489. that term as well. Now you might wonder why the C

  490. stands for Christian and not Catholic, and that's because we

  491. believe Catholics are the original Christians.

  492. We trace our history right back to Jesus himself.

  493. So what is OCIA? Well, it's a gradual process

  494. within the community of becoming Catholic and it can depend on

  495. the specific situation, the person, the church, and what God

  496. is doing in their life. But here's the basic outline up

  497. front. There's basically 2 tracks.

  498. There are catechumens who have never been baptized, and there

  499. are candidates who have been baptized in another church.

  500. So if you're a catechumen who hasn't been baptized, then the

  501. ultimate end of OCIA will be Baptism, Confirmation, and 1st

  502. Communion. One kind of cool note is that

  503. because baptism forgives all of the sins of your life,

  504. catechumens don't actually need to go to confession prior to

  505. their entrance in the church, but after baptism.

  506. Of course they would want to make a regular confession.

  507. Because candidates have been baptized into the church, they

  508. would go to confession ahead of time.

  509. Then as they received into the church, they would be confirmed

  510. and received their first communion.

  511. The reason this works is that the Catholic Church recognizes

  512. the baptism of other faiths as long as they did it according to

  513. the biblical formula saying I baptize you in the name of the

  514. Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

  515. If you aren't sure, they will help you figure out in the OCA

  516. program. Funny story, my dad was actually

  517. a convert to the faith from the Lutheran Church and he said when

  518. he made his first confession, he was convinced the priest was

  519. going to tell him at the end. Rex, I appreciate that you want

  520. to join the Catholic Church, but with all your sins, we just

  521. can't have you here. To his surprise, instead the

  522. priest just forgave him. So don't be afraid of your first

  523. confession. So the first phase of OCIA is

  524. the inquiry phase or the pre catechumenate phase where you're

  525. getting acquainted with the church teachings and the

  526. community. This is a really great time to

  527. be asking questions, getting more information, exploring,

  528. learning. There isn't a set time for how

  529. long this takes, so people can really move at their own pace

  530. while having the support of the community.

  531. I promise we're not offended by questions at this stage.

  532. We want to get you the right answers.

  533. We could say this is a time to meet Christ, to get to know Him,

  534. to learn who He is. If I could take it back to the

  535. time of Christ, this phase would be kind of like being someone in

  536. the town who's hearing about what Jesus is doing and wants to

  537. get to know Him better. At the end of this phase, you

  538. have the right of acceptance when you're formally accepted

  539. into the process. The next phase is called the

  540. catechumenate phase, which is a period of formation where

  541. candidates and catechumens break open the word being proclaimed.

  542. At this stage, you're usually meeting for weekly classes to

  543. learn more about why the Church teaches, what it does, to go

  544. deeper into what prayer is, to learn more about the sacraments,

  545. the Catholic devotions. These meetings will have talks,

  546. discussions, small group time, and fellowship as you learn more

  547. about the faith. This is also a time to better

  548. understand Scripture, so people in this stage will often go to

  549. Mass and stay while the Scriptures are being proclaimed,

  550. which we call the Liturgy of the Word.

  551. Then, before the Liturgy of the Eucharist and Communion time,

  552. they will often be dismissed to go off by themselves to go

  553. deeper into the Word of God. At my parish, we do both of

  554. these back-to-back. Participants go to Mass for the

  555. Liturgy of the Word, then they are dismissed for a time of

  556. discussion. Then they go for their weekly

  557. meeting where they go deeper into elements of the faith.

  558. This is a time to follow Christ. It's like the moment when the

  559. apostle were called by Jesus to be his disciples.

  560. They didn't have it all figured out.

  561. There was a lot for them to learn, but they were locked in

  562. on following Christ. Around this time you will

  563. probably get settled on who your sponsor is.

  564. This is basically a Catholic whose faith you admire, who can

  565. be a companion and an example and an encouragement to you in

  566. the faith. They can be there during the

  567. initiation process, but they're especially helpful afterwards.

  568. You really want someone who isn't afraid to challenge you to

  569. stay on track. This phase concludes with the

  570. Right of sending, which is performed by the local Bishop.

  571. Next, you have the Purification and Enlightenment stage.

  572. This often happens during the season of Lent.

  573. It's a time of continued reflection and deep prayer.

  574. Part of this stage is public ceremonies called the

  575. scrutinies. Now I know that word scrutiny

  576. sounds kind of intense, but we don't need it in the sense that

  577. anyone is judging you. Instead, we're scrutinizing

  578. ourselves for places where we've been wounded and asking for

  579. God's healing. Part of the scrutinies is a

  580. minor exorcism, which is a casting out of any evil

  581. influence over you. This should actually be a

  582. consolation for all of us that no matter what your history is

  583. like or what baggage you have, the church has a system for

  584. setting you free. At this stage you're referred to

  585. as the elect because you're responding to God's call in a

  586. concrete way. This phase concludes with the

  587. rites of initiation, which is probably what you've been

  588. looking forward to. Usually these happen at the

  589. Easter Vigil, which is a long mass that happens the night of

  590. Easter. The whole church gathers

  591. together, we hear the readings, basically the whole story of

  592. salvation and that we celebrate together the resurrection, Jesus

  593. coming back to life, which is fitting because each person in

  594. the church is being brought back to life spiritually through the

  595. sacraments. This is when those entering the

  596. church are baptized, confirmed, and received their first

  597. Eucharist. It's a really, really exciting

  598. night. Just super, super joyful as the

  599. community welcomes in our new members.

  600. At this point, you're a Catholic.

  601. You are part of the family. This puts you in the final phase

  602. called Mr. Goji, which is a Greek word meaning to lead

  603. through the mysteries. It's basically a kind of

  604. continuing formation. It's like after you get married,

  605. you don't just stop learning about your spouse.

  606. In fact, you're maybe more excited than ever to discover

  607. more and more about who they are.

  608. At this point, you're referred to as a neophyte, which is

  609. basically just means someone who's new.

  610. This is also a time when you're now being sent on mission

  611. yourself. You've become a follower of

  612. Christ, now you need to help others become followers as well.

  613. You might be wondering, how long does all of this take?

  614. So there isn't a set time, but on average it usually goes about

  615. a year. It could take two years or more

  616. if needed, or less time if there are extenuating circumstances.

  617. So there's the basic structure. If you are feeling drawn to the

  618. Catholic faith, please, please act on it.

  619. Call a church, get involved and make it happen.

  620. The Catholic faith is such a beautiful gift and I absolutely

  621. believe it is the best way to encounter Christ and to become

  622. the person He has called you to be.

  623. Let me know what other topics you guys think might be helpful

  624. and we will see you in the next one.

  625. God bless. Saved, baptized, added unto them

  626. or that. Now the production value of that

  627. video was excellent, except for that one video for that one

  628. little clip where the guy had that huge bouquet of flowers

  629. behind it. That was like that was a huge

  630. bouquet of flowers. That was a that that got me

  631. every time I watched it. But you, you see that and you

  632. go, that's so confusing. None of that was found in

  633. scripture. On top of the fact that how does

  634. someone come to be saved nowhere.

  635. Do you see any information on that?

  636. There's a reason for that. And we'll get to that probably

  637. next week. But there was one phrase that I

  638. want you to really focus in on. And I, I, I, it's the third time

  639. I've watched that, but I just, I, I want to write it down

  640. because I, it just really stuck out to me this last viewing.

  641. The church has a system that will set you free.

  642. That one phrase that he said, the church has a system.

  643. That's after he talked about the mini exorcism.

  644. The church has a system that will set you free.

  645. What's so important for you to understand about the Catholic

  646. Church is they believe that they are the very gatekeepers of the

  647. faith. That there is no coming to the

  648. faith without going through the Catholic Church to get to

  649. Christ. The difference between that and

  650. the Bible is this, that Christ is the one who will set you

  651. free. Not that the church has a

  652. program that will set you free. Christ will set you free.

  653. He who is free is free. Indeed, the Word of God says the

  654. Baptist Church is not the gatekeeper of salvation through

  655. Jesus Christ. We are simply what I believe is

  656. The Proclaimers of what the Word of God says about Christ.

  657. But being a Baptist will not get you to heaven.

  658. Now the Catholic Church will say being a Catholic won't get you

  659. to heaven. But yet again, if it talks over

  660. the walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, as I say, if

  661. it talks like a duck, that'd be a talking duck.

  662. But it is a duck. And there's so many things of

  663. which the Catholic friends that we have would say we don't

  664. believe that. Or maybe the Catholic priest

  665. says, well, that's not what we believe.

  666. But yet, if you follow the logical progression of the

  667. teachings, you will find that that's absolutely what they

  668. believe in practice, even if it's not what they think that

  669. they believe in their day-to-day life.

  670. So really, we ask ourselves this question, and this is probably

  671. where we will focus and, and end here today.

  672. And what doctrines do the Catholics hold beliefs that

  673. differ from the Bible? We'll cover just one this

  674. morning and we'll get into more of them, including the

  675. Sacramento system next week. But the first is this salvation?

  676. Is it by faith alone or faith plus works?

  677. Is salvation by faith alone or is it faith plus works?

  678. This is the most critical doctrinal divide between Rome

  679. and the Bible. This is what the Catholic Church

  680. teaches. The Catechism of the Catholic

  681. Church #1129 says the Church affirms that for believers, the

  682. sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation to

  683. be saved. They affirm that the sacraments

  684. of the covenant are necessary for salvation.

  685. The Catholic Church believes there are 7 sacraments.

  686. You ever wondered why, if someone is close to passing away

  687. in the Catholic Church, why they call for the priest?

  688. Maybe you've heard that before. We got a call for the priest.

  689. Why? One of the sacraments is the

  690. last rites, and that is a giving of grace to the one who is

  691. passing away. If the priest is not called and

  692. they're going to miss the grace that they need because they have

  693. no real hope of eternal life. They have a hope so salvation,

  694. but they don't have the hope of salvation.

  695. Any Catholic you talk to and you ask them, are you going to

  696. heaven? If they're being honest about

  697. what they believed, and they usually are, they'll say this.

  698. I sure hope so. I, I hope I'm going and you go

  699. to a Catholic funeral, a funeral mass.

  700. What do you see? That there are prayers being

  701. offered, that they hope that this one will be able to go to

  702. eternal salvation and eternal life.

  703. To them, justification is an ongoing process initiated by

  704. baptism, maintained by the sacraments, acts of penance, and

  705. their own cooperation with grace.

  706. Now this is important. The Council of Trent, which was

  707. spoken in 1547, says this. If anyone saith that by faith

  708. alone the impious is justified, let him be anathema.

  709. They say, what is this in reference to?

  710. It would be the Protestant Reformation.

  711. The fact that there were those who were saying that it was the

  712. Scriptures alone, Sola scriptura was the call the Protestant

  713. Reformation. And certainly there would be

  714. disagreements I would have with the Protestant Reformation being

  715. a Bible believing Baptist. We're not Protestants.

  716. We never came from Rome. And I think it's important you

  717. understand this morning people say, well, if you're a Baptist,

  718. you're a Protestant. My answer is no, I'm just a

  719. Baptist. Protestants were protesting Rome

  720. and separated from Rome as Baptist.

  721. We've never identified with Rome anytime in history.

  722. In fact, often times very much persecuted by Rome, whether

  723. Baptist or our Baptist forefathers in different groups

  724. that came before, you know, identified with Rome.

  725. We never protested being part of Rome and so we are simply Bible

  726. believing Baptist. But in reference to the calls of

  727. Sola Scriptura in reference to salvation by grace through

  728. faith, they said in the Council of Trent, if anyone saith that

  729. by faith alone the impious is justified, let him be anathema

  730. meaning this let him be cursed. Now understand the implications

  731. of this this morning. The Catholic Church has taught

  732. that anyone who is outside of the Catholic Church that teaches

  733. salvation by grace through faith that they are not saved and they

  734. will spend an eternity in hell. Now again, there will be

  735. Catholics that will have their hair on fire and say we don't

  736. believe that the Council of Trent is still in force today.

  737. The Catholic Church has had multiple opportunities to

  738. overturn the Council of Trent. They've talked around the

  739. Council of Trent. They've made dialogue about the

  740. Council Trent. I would encourage you to look

  741. this up on your own, from reliable sources, both from the

  742. Catholic Church itself and from others.

  743. And it's quite clear that the Council of Trent is still in

  744. force today, meaning that the clear teaching of the Catholic

  745. churches, unless you are anything but a Catholic, you

  746. will not go to heaven. You said, why is it important

  747. that we know that? You need to know where the lines

  748. are drawn. You need to know where they are.

  749. Now, again, many of your Catholic friends don't know

  750. this, don't understand this, and certainly it's very likely not

  751. being taught in their local parish.

  752. But just because they don't know it, and just because it's not

  753. being taught doesn't mean that that's what the hierarchy of the

  754. Catholic Church stands for. And that is their clear belief

  755. that if you believe that you're saved by faith, that you're

  756. accursed and you're outside of the faith.

  757. Now Needless to say, that's not what the Bible teaches.

  758. The Bible teaches it's not by our works of righteousness.

  759. It's not by that of which we do. Let me just give you a sampling.

  760. Romans 328 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith

  761. without the deeds of the law. That ought to solve it right

  762. there. Romans 4, verses four and five.

  763. Now to him that worketh is the reward, not reckoned of grace,

  764. but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but

  765. believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, His faith is

  766. counted for righteousness. If you have to work for it, then

  767. you are the one that has paid the debt.

  768. There's no grace involved. Ephesians 289.

  769. Probably the most quotable of all these verses.

  770. For by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of

  771. yourself. It is the gift of God, not of

  772. works, lest any man should boast.

  773. I don't know how a Catholic gets around those two verses.

  774. And I think the answer is when it's not just scripture but also

  775. tradition, that it really doesn't matter what the

  776. Scriptures say. It really matters what the

  777. interpretation of man of the scriptures say.

  778. What do we say? Let the Scriptures speak.

  779. The purpose of Bible preaching is this, to find the true

  780. context of the Word of God, to make sure we're preaching it

  781. straight and true as it is. So you know what the Word of God

  782. is. The purpose of the Catholic

  783. Church is. Let's explain what we want the

  784. Bible to mean. And you need to believe our

  785. explanations even more than you believe the Bible.

  786. It's a damnable heresy. And so where do we consider

  787. Catholics? Is it a world religion?

  788. Is it a cult? And we'll look at this more next

  789. week. But the answer is I don't know.

  790. I don't know. But I don't know that I need to

  791. categorize it as one or the other.

  792. Here's what I know. It's error.

  793. And those who believe it truly follow it are not saved.

  794. Now, there are some people that have attended Catholic churches

  795. that don't believe what the Catholics say about salvation

  796. and believe what the Bible says. And again, it's not about where

  797. you go to church, it's about the fact that you believe the

  798. gospel. Do I understand all of that?

  799. Why would you attend the Catholic Church and not believe

  800. with the Catholic Church? I don't know.

  801. But I do know this, that again, we don't get our cards checked

  802. of what denomination we were when we get to heaven.

  803. And that's just the Baptist to get in.

  804. It's really about this. It's about do you believe the

  805. gospel message? And so I'm not here to tell you

  806. that every single one of your friends who have ever attended a

  807. Catholic Church are going straight to hell.

  808. That's that's not my call to make.

  809. I thank the Lord is not my call to make that Christ is the

  810. righteous judge. But I will say this, if they are

  811. to believe everything that the Catholic Church teaches, it is

  812. not a doctrine that will send anyone to heaven.

  813. And this ought to burden us about our Catholic friends, our

  814. Catholic neighbors, maybe even your Catholic family.

  815. Now, the good news is you probably have some that you're

  816. close to that are Catholics, but it's just because their family

  817. was before them, they don't really have a lot of regard for

  818. the Catholic Church. They may even have some disdain

  819. for the Catholic Church because of the abuses that have taken

  820. place and have been uncovered in the last several years, which,

  821. by the way, go back generations and generations.

  822. My goal today is not to try to mock those who believe in

  823. Catholicism. My goal today and in the next

  824. couple weeks is not to try to to talk down to them, but rather to

  825. plead with them. What does the Bible say?

  826. Believe the Bible. Do not trust the word of man,

  827. Trust the word of God. Thank you for listening to the

  828. sermon from the pulpit of Liberty Baptist Church.

  829. If this message was a blessing to you, or if there's any way we

  830. can serve you, please let us know by contacting us at

  831. [email protected]. Or you can visit us this Sunday

  832. at 800 Washington St. in Easton, MA.

  833. May the Lord bless you as you grow in His Word.