Sermon
The Great Commission
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Transcript
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Wow, thank you Charlotte.
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We have the privilege today of having Alejandro with us. Alejandro is coming from Lima, Peru.
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! And Pickens First Baptist Church has had a long relationship with Alejandro over the years
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! going back to some of the first mission trips, if not the first mission trip this church ever
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took. Alejandro served as a translator for this church.
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Back in the early days of going to the mountains in the canta region of Peru.
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And one of the stories I love to share, because this was before I ever came, that I've heard.
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And so I think I got the details correct in the first one.
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And Alejandro will touch on this and he can correct me if I get anything wrong.
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But he's translating for Boots Holder in the mountains of Peru.
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And I think he said in the first one, it was like the Romans road.
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And he said in the middle of that, he stops and turns and faces Boots and says,
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I believe all of this.
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Well, they began to have a conversation in English.
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The church people don't know what the world they're saying, but they can understand something
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special is going on.
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And over time, Alejandro receives Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
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And Pastor Jaime, who was our partner up in the mountains, baptized him in the river of Peru.
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Since that day, Alejandro has grown as a disciple of Christ.
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And now he's going to the jungles and starting churches and making disciples.
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Look, that is what missions and that is what Christianity is all about.
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And Pickens First Baptist, especially if you were here in the early days of going to Peru,
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and you were involved in that, you see how missions has come full circle of going and planting
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and sowing the seed to where it has grown and producing fruit for the kingdom of God.
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And so Alejandro, come and share with us what the Lord has laid on your heart today.
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Thank you.
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Well, I have to set the chronometer.
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I've been told that to be very sharp on the timing.
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And I have to, because my wife told me that I have the spiritual gift of making people sleep.
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And I'm sorry.
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I promised my leaders not to tell funny things, but I see it's the first time I have to speak
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in English in a place full of gringos.
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And so I'm American believers.
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And it's a strong impact for me to coming from Atlanta to Greenville and then straight U.S.
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With all that information, we came straight with Brother Dwayne.
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We came straight to the sanctuary.
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It was probably the first thing I really, and I was walking here and I said,
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Oh, this is awesome.
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Minutes later, I found out that I was to speak here.
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Oh, I thought I was in another place for missions.
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15 minutes, pictures, nice.
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Not here.
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I'm not supposed to be here.
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But the Lord will have to face.
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And it's a great privilege to be here, brother.
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You don't know.
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My heart is overflowing with gratitude for this moment.
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God bless you.
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And you don't know how blessed you are.
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Because you have the calling of Jesus to go and make this happen.
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You took it seriously.
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And I witnessed it.
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Maybe some of you are new in this church.
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But 20 some years ago, this church sent people back to my country.
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And they make a change.
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They make a change.
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Oh, Jim.
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Wow.
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If God spoke to me, it was through him.
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Oh, poor Jim.
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Poor, I mean, all those questions I did sometimes.
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Jim was like, oh, now what?
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But God filled his heart with so much information.
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And here I am, brothers.
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Here I am.
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And yes, I came to this sanctuary.
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And then came to another sanctuary of overflowing American culture.
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Called Waffle House.
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There I learned what is a waffle.
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A real waffle.
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Prepared by this kind.
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Can I say redneck cook?
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Oh, wonderful.
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What they said back in my country as American food is far from that.
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And I'm afraid.
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This is what I have against some people.
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Only some of you sitting here.
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You never told me how good was the food here.
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Beans.
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Yes, beans.
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Good.
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Oh, red, white, green, black, clean, dirty.
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All of them.
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I ate them all.
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Good beans.
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I love them.
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These pork and beans.
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Oh, delicious.
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The only one thing is that no Spanish at all.
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Very little Spanish.
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Not even Mexicans speak Spanish anymore.
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You better start learning because that's the language spoken in heaven.
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Okay.
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Now, my leaders tell me signs to start with my presentation.
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And, yeah.
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The Lord put in my heart this portion of scripture in Matthew 28 that we all read.
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Right?
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And it says, go and make disciples.
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Yeah.
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It's the Lord Jesus.
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He gives many commands.
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Right?
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He commanded to forgive.
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He commanded to repent.
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He commanded many other things.
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But at the end, before going, he told to those who walked with him for almost three years.
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He told them, go and make disciples.
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Teach them to obey all what I've taught.
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Okay.
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And this is what I'm doing.
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Because 20 some years ago, your church went to my country.
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And I encourage you to keep doing it.
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And do it with the same love those guys started doing it.
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And I'd like to mention those who already departed.
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Brothers like David Moody, Don and Betty Austin, Percy, Alder.
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They are in heaven now.
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But I have a piece of them in my heart.
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And we, I hope someday, meet with them in heaven.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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The first picture I'd like to see, please.
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Okay.
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This is my family.
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From left to right.
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The chubby girl is my older daughter, Patricia.
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She studies law someday.
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And next year she will finish.
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And she's a lawyer.
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She will be a lawyer.
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She is now in training.
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She's doing some practicing, something like that.
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And I remember when she was a year and a half, it was hard to argue with her.
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Everything had argument.
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And she had something against everything.
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So I stopped arguing and said, okay, that's it.
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The next one is my wife.
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She allowed me to talk about many things.
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She's a baker.
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She comes from a family of bakers.
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And yeah, when I started ministry for a long time, well, those cakes put food in my table.
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Because at that time I was in change of jobs.
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And well, thanks to her.
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And she allowed me to tell many things about that age and weight.
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I'm not allowed to talk about that.
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I learned early in my marriage that when sometimes ladies talk about certain things,
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it's better to keep your mouth closed.
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I call it a godly silence.
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Amen, brothers?
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Oh, but the next one is my brother, son, who is 13 years old.
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Oh, he plays soccer.
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He plays basketball.
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He wants to be an astronaut.
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And he wants to also be a, well, let's keep guiding him in the word of God.
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And hopefully someday he will be a man who honors God in every side of his life.
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The next one, well, the next one is me.
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This is two years ago.
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I still have hair there.
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So I can tell you.
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The next one is my second daughter.
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She's 19.
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She studies biochemistry.
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Whatever is that, I don't know.
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She explained once that it's related to the chemical reaction or effects in the body depending on,
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and I cannot say anything else.
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She kind of gave me an explanation and just said,
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yes, honey, I understand you.
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Keep on doing.
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I love you.
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What else could I say?
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I have no clue what she said.
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But a father should know everything, right?
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That's why I said, yes, I understand.
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Why?
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Well, I wanted you to show you a little bit about my family.
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Because in missions, that's very important.
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A family.
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You cannot go to the nations to make disciples.
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If you don't have back home a wife who believes in what you're doing,
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who prays a family that is there waiting for you when you come back.
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Oh, it's so sad to see.
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I've seen godly men, guys who knew the Bible and loved God,
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and they went to the world to make disciples,
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but they didn't have a supporting wife who believed in what he said.
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That, he didn't last too much.
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And I've seen even American couples going in missions and not being successful
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because there were some problems.
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So, missions needs two things.
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A God calling and a godly family.
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And I believe the Lord sent this family to support me
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and a godly church to help me.
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Amen.
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Oh, amen.
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The next picture.
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Okay, go.
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It says, yes, we go with the support of our families,
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but sometimes we don't know where to go
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until the Lord guides us to the real place.
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So, and I have at the beginning the calling to go to another place.
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It was a place in a...
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Hey, what happened with my...
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You tell me when I'm ready to, please.
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Okay.
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I did not put the chronometer,
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so I need the blessing of someone who tell me when should I...
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It's back.
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It's back.
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Sorry.
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Where I was?
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Oh, go.
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At the beginning was...
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The plan was to go somewhere to another place.
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In time, it did not work.
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I said to myself, maybe this is the wrong place,
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or maybe this is not a calling.
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So, I talked to someone who helped me that my calling is there
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to help me understand that sometimes the Lord did not give you a map.
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The Lord didn't give a map to Moses,
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or did you see the map?
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No, right?
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He just went.
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The Lord didn't give a map to Abraham,
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or have you ever found it?
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I'm looking for it.
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He just...
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He said go, and he went.
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So, the same thing is nowadays.
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Sometimes we are called to a place,
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but thus the Lord guides us,
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and we end up in the right place,
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and I believe the Shaniqas were the right place.
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The Shaniqas,
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they live in many parts of Peru, in the jungle,
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and also you find Shaniqas in other parts,
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in other countries, like Brazil.
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There are Shaniqas also in Colombia.
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There are some Shaniqas also in Ecuador.
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So, they are in many places.
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We are centered in the Shaniqas that live along the Tambo River.
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In time, we are planning to expand to the Eno River,
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which is another river where there are also a Shaniqa people.
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And besides the Shaniqa, we also evangelize.
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This happened like five, six years ago.
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Another ethnic group.
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I didn't know they were.
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There were another ethnic group.
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They are called Kakintes.
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They don't live near the river.
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They live in the woods.
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With them, I learned what is the meaning of near and far.
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Near is five, six hours walking.
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That's near.
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Far is a week walking.
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So, when you go in the Bible, you see that everything was walking.
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A couple of days.
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Maybe a week walking.
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And every time I see them walking, I resemble.
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That resembles me.
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How?
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It's like when Jesus resurrected and appeared to the two Marys at the grave.
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And he said, oh, tell the disciples to meet me in Galilee.
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Galilee was like 90 miles from there.
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So, they had to walk over at least a couple of days.
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Ten hours a day walking.
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Maybe more.
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You see.
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And when I see how long it takes to go there.
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Okay.
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With Lima traffic, maybe an hour to go from my house to the bus stop.
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Overnight to go, yes, probably more than 12 hours.
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Sometimes, like the last trip we did, it took like forever.
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And then, two hours by taxi to the harbor to get in the boat.
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And then, four hours in a boat.
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And it was all sitting.
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I don't have to walk.
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When I compare that with those guys who walk hours to the discipleship every month.
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In our wake, coming and going back home.
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I say, I feel blessed because I don't have to walk that far.
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So, if you feel, you think, oh, Alejandro does a great effort.
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No, no, no.
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That's not a great effort.
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Great effort is that one, these brethren come just to hear the word of God.
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So, brothers, sisters, we need your support in this.
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Pray.
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Pray for those who are always willing to come just to hear the word of God.
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The lessons that are going to help in them to overcome situations and preach the gospel beyond.
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Because the discipleship is about that.
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Train believers to go and make disciples.
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Because a disciple makes disciples.
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What?
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The reason?
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To go and make more disciples.
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That's how the Lord put in our hearts to go and send the message.
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Evangelizing.
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Evangelism is very important.
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Many churches in my country do a great job of evangelizing.
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They go, they print good material.
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But that's not enough.
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If we want to send to all, to the far places of Peru, we need more discipleship.
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And that's a weak side.
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I should recognize that's a weak side in many churches.
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That's not all.
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Some of them are doing a great job.
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But most do not believe in this, what we share.
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This is what I see.
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This is what this church does every week.
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Discipleship.
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Over there, it's not.
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Some others want to keep believers clapping, singing, and giving money and ready for next Sunday.
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Which is not what the scriptures teach.
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The next picture.
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Is there a next picture?
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Okay.
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Nations.
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Okay.
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I already said it.
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But the nation is the Ashanica nation.
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In the last century, those guys were really undermined.
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They were treated.
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They were called another name.
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They were called Kampa.
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Kampa.
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That's how people call them.
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Kampa.
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And Kampa means like human beings of a second level.
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Kampa.
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Not slaves.
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But like, I cannot find a word in English.
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But it's like a very low level people.
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And they treat them very bad.
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But in time, in time, things changed in my country.
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And they started giving them, not like the level of a tribe, but now is a nation.
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The Ashanica nation.
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And that's how I call them.
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Ashanica nation.
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And there's another group.
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The Kakinta nation.
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And there's another ethnic group called Nomadzigenga nations.
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There's another group called the Shipibo nation.
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We are not covering those zones yet.
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Because we still don't have, you need many, many, many things to consider.
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You need people with a calling to go.
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You need resources to send them.
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Many more things to consider.
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But in time, when the disciples start growing and making more disciples, those areas will be covered.
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How I started going into the nations.
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Okay.
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Our brother here almost gave me without any information extra to say.
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All I can say is that I met the Lord through translation.
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As I translated the Roman road.
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The different Bible verses.
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The discussions.
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The comments.
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The conversations.
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Among believers.
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Among missionaries.
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The word of God.
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That is sharper than any double-edged sword.
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Trespassed me.
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And one day.
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As I was translating.
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I said, hey.
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I believe all that.
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That's true.
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And that happened with a boots holder.
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And many other times.
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While I was translating.
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For a gym.
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In the middle of a translation.
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I had to say, hey.
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What does that mean?
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And he explained to me.
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And I said, but why is this?
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And he explained to me.
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And people was there like, what?
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What's going on?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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I probably.
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I did not.
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It was not proper what I did.
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But it was a heart that was beginning to grow.
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It was a heart that began to be tender.
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And when that happens.
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You sometimes lose the sense where you are.
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And I was in the middle of translation.
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For a moment I thought.
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I forgot I was translating.
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And I became one more believer.
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Who was willing to know more.
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And in time.
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Yeah.
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I corrected that.
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In time.
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I stopped.
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I stopped.
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Interrupting.
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But.
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Things change.
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In my heart.
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Things change.
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Up to the point.
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That.
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The gifting.
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I used to have for translating.
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Ended.
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I cannot say.
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That I still.
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I still can translate.
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As I used to.
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Because that's a gifting.
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I lost.
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To tell the truth.
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But I.
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Understand now.
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That the Lord wants me.
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Somewhere.
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Other than.
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Translating.
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Once I had.
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I started.
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Discipleship.
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In this small town.
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City.
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A small city.
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Called Masamari.
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There was a group.
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Of more or less.
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13.
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14 guys.
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So it came a time.
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When.
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It was time to.
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To go.
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From there.
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And we.
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Decided to go.
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To this river.
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To this place.
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We.
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Of course.
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They all.
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We all.
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Got an agreement.
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We talked.
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Now when.
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When do we go.
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And they all said.
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Let's go to the center.
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Down in the river.
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Poyini.
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So we.
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I was thinking.
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Oh.
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But those guys.
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Are very tough.
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I've been with.
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Admission trips there.
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In one.
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In one trip.
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They threw us.
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They kicked us.
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Out of town.
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They threw stones to us.
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They say.
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Get out of here.
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Yeah.
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They say.
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Get it out of here.
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In their language.
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So we had to leave.
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And they threw stones.
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I was like.
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A little bit discouraged.
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But in time.
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I learned.
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This is how the enemy.
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Defends.
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His land.
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We were entering.
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A whole land.
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Controlled by the evil one.
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For years.
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Of years.
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In those lands.
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They worship.
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The enemy.
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They have these shamans.
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They still do.
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Perform those.
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Ceremonies.
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And some.
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Sometimes.
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I've been warned.
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This so and so.
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Says.
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That I'm going to crawl.
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Like a snake.
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If I.
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If I keep going.
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Well.
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I'm still here.
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I'm waiting.
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Deal with my Lord.
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Just be careful.
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And.
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This is like.
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Four years ago.
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I was in.
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Because.
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The.
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The.
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COVID-19.
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Made me go.
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Because we could not go out.
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We were not allowed to go out.
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And.
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We stood inside the house.
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All day.
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Around.
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And.
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I.
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I started going into TV.
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After a long time.
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And.
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I was seeing the news.
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And going in.
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Internet.
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I started going through it.
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So.
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I learned.
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There was something called.
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Facebook.
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I didn't know about that.
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So.
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I was interested.
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You put there.
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You put names.
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And they start appearing.
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People like.
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And in one of those.
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Like.
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How do you call.
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I don't know how.
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I don't even know.
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How to call those.
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That.
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When it appears someone.
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You.
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You could be related to.
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How do you call them.
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Hey kids.
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Help me.
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People you might know.
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Yeah.
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People you might.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Gente que repente conozco.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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That's in Spanish.
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And.
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Appeared someone.
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I met a long time ago.
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In missions.
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In Canta.
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This person.
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Worked with children.
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Did an awesome.
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Oh.
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An awesome.
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Job.
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And I made a contact.
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To make sure she.
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Under.
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She.
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Knew.
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Who I was.
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I make some kind of.
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Comments.
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Resembling.
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Things that.
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Happened.
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In the past.
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Certain.
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Kind of.
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Quite embarrassing.
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Situations.
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Which I'm not going to mention.
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I.
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I promise not to do it.
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And.
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Answer.
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Probably.
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Two weeks later.
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They.
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Answer.
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Those.
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That.
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Let's say.
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Greetings.
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I call it.
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Greetings.
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And.
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Yeah.
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She.
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Resembled.
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An embarrassing.
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Situation.
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To me too.
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So.
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I said.
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Oh.
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That's the one.
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And.
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We.
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We.
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Restarted.
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Like a.
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Some kind of.
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Common.
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Relationship.
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It was.
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This is.
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Was.
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Something new.
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For me.
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I never used.
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Facebook.
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So.
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To befriend people.
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In one of those.
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Messages.
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I said.
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Hey.
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Are you ready.
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To come to Peru?
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The jungle is ready.
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There's lots of kids.
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Hundreds.
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Thousands.
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If you want.
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They are ready.
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For someone like you.
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And.
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This.
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Person said.
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No.
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No.
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There's no way.
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I can go.
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My time.
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Ministry.
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There is.
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I'm very busy now.
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I have this.
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And that.
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And that.
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And I.
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Well.
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I kept doing.
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And.
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Making more.
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Invitations.
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And one of these.
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This.
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Person said.
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I cannot go there.
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Because I know.
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How bathrooms are.
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A hole.
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In a hut.
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And I'm not.
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I'm not ready.
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For that.
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Spiritual step.
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And he said.
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Well.
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Unless there's.
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A commode.
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Unless there's.
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A bathroom.
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I would.
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Start thinking.
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So.
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Probably.
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Fifteen days later.
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I sent.
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A picture.
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Of a commode.
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When I bought it.
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I.
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I.
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I.
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I took it from the boat.
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And I carried it.
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To the place.
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People were thinking.
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How can I cook.
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In this.
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Stove.
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It was.
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Set.
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It was.
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Already set.
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I took a picture.
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I said.
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Okay.
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Sister.
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There you have.
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Your.
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Commode.
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And.
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To tell the truth.
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She started.
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Thinking it.
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Seriously.
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And a year later.
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She came with a trip.
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A wonderful.
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Successful.
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Trip.
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She planned.
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For 65 kids.
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250.
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Kids.
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Appeared.
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Oh.
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You should have seen her.
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Creating more.
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Because.
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They ran out of crosses.
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They ran out of beads.
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They ran out.
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There were so many.
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Even ladies.
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As you have seen.
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Maybe.
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In the other presentation.
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There were even ladies.
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Doing those crafts.
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For children.
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Oh.
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Great.
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Great.
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Great.
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Movement.
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What.
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Started.
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As I translated.
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Twenty some years ago.
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Now.
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It's in my heart.
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And it's part of my life.
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Because.
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A church like this.
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Was faithful to the calling of God.
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Go.
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And make.
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Disciples.
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Of all nations.
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Now.
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This church is part of that.
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The.
-
Reaching.
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The Shanika nation.
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And.
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No matter.
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If you go once.
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Or twice a year.
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I don't know.
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But if you're praying for.
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You're part.
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Of that.
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And.
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I praise the Lord.
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For that day.
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That I made this church.
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Long time ago.
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How am I doing in time?
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I have.
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Five more minutes.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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They.
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They did the.
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Sign.
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We have.
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Expectations.
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Yes.
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We would like to expand more.
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But it should be.
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In God's time.
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God's.
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Effort.
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God's funds.
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And God's will.
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And.
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I'm really thankful.
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For the great opening.
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This church.
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Has.
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I would like to apologize.
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For maybe I said something wrong.
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Like gringo.
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But.
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It was safe.
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From a heart.
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That.
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Loves God.
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And.
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To a heart.
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That has God.
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In between.
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In the middle of you.
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God bless you.
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Brothers.
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I love you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.