VBS 2026 - "Scientific Foreknowledge" by Joey Morgan - Part 3

You hear me now? Good. I also have to give a little bit of credit

to a little thing called Copilot that opened up in the corner whenever

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are mine, but I got to give credit to Copilot for pretty much everything else

that you're going to see. But so there's many ways that people might

answer you when you ask about having a Bible study,

about maybe why they don't see the value in God's Word. Like,

if you just go up to somebody and say, hey, would you be interested in,

you know, having a Bible study? And you'll get all sorts of

comments from different people. Maybe they just say, you know, I just don't see

any value. I don't believe in the Bible. I don't really see a need

for me to study it with you, or anything like that. Why they think you

are silly even sometimes for believing it yourself. Sometimes you'll even have that conversation

with someone. So some are going to say it's a made-up

book. You know, you probably have heard that in your lifetime at some

point in time. They'll say the events didn't happen, you know,

as it was written. They don't believe that. That's where you

may point to some of the archaeological, you know, evidence that Bill talked about on

Sunday evening that point you in the direction of a lot of

these events did happen. You know, there's all sorts of evidence that says the

things that we've found, they all say the stuff has happened just like

what we read in the Bible. Well, then some might say, and I've

heard this one a lot, well, it's just a book written by man just

to make people act a certain way. How many of y'all have heard that in

your lifetime of talking with people?

I've heard that quite a few times as well. Well, then that's maybe

when we point to prophecy in the Bible, like what Dale had mentioned

last night, to show that the things spoken in the Bible are not

just written by man, they're God-breathed and not just from

man. The Bible told of things that were going to happen before they

happened, and then they happened. Well, a man

can't come up with that by himself, you know, just— it's, it's not going to

happen. Then they may answer and say,

well, maybe they wrote it and then after after it already had

taken place. Well, that would be impossible

in many of the situations, as we talked about last night, because it's lifetimes

that went by before the thing took place. They couldn't have,

you know, done such a thing. But then those whose hearts are still

hard after showing them all those things, they still believe it's a made-up book.

They're still going to believe that it's a book that's just written by man to

make people act a certain way, to keep us straight. Well, then maybe now we'll

get into tonight's topic, which is scientific foreknowledge in the

Bible. So this topic joins together 2 things

that I think the world believes are in conflict

with each other. I think they think it's science and the Bible,

and those 2 things are at odds, you know, with one another.

You have to— it's as if they believe you can only believe one

or you can believe the other. It's as if they don't coexist

with one another. Science is even usually looked at by a lot of people in

the world as the intellectual alternative to

God. It's the smarter way of thinking about things. It's the— if you—

science is a more intelligent way of looking at the things of the world

instead of looking at what the Bible says about things. It's the thing that really

proves that God is not real in a lot of people's minds.

As if that's the goal of what science is all about. And it

kind of reminds me, I saw this comic strip a long time ago. Of course,

this wasn't the comic strip, I had to recreate it, but it's

a comic strip where man has been trying to create, you know, man from the

dust of the ground, and they've finally done it. You know, that we finally have

done it, we've created man from the dust of the ground, and then God just

laughs and says, that's cute, create your own dust.

And that's what science ultimately, no matter what we come up

with or what we might prove, it's always going to lead us back to there's

a Creator and they can't get past that point no matter how far they try

to take it. So the Bible is primarily a book of

theology. That's what it's all about, who God is and our relationship to him.

It's not meant to be a science textbook.

However, when the Bible speaks on matters that

deal with science and the natural world, it does so

with accuracy that you would not expect based on when

it was written, who wrote it, the knowledge at the time.

It's always right there, right in line with it.

So the question that we'll start out with is,

when you read a very old book, what do you

expect it to reflect? And feel free to talk and ask questions,

throw something at me, raise your hand. It's a group

effort here. Talk amongst each other.

What'd you say? Old, old times, things that were

written in the old times. You would expect stuff to

kind of match up with the common knowledge of whatever time period it is that

you're, you know, reading that book. If I read a book written by

somebody in the 1700s that

was entitled The Best Way to Win a War, I wouldn't expect to

open up that book and read about submarines and tanks and

helicopters and, you know, all sorts of things like that. It's not going to be

there because the common knowledge at that time,

they're not going to know of those things. The ideas someone would

have on how to win a war in the 1700s compared to now are

going to be drastically different based on the new information, the new things

that are out there, everything that goes along with that. So when you read an

old book, you're going to expect them to reflect whatever is the common

knowledge by that writer at that specific time.

In fact, if you go find an old science book or even an old Guinness

Book of World Records and/or an encyclopedia,

if anybody still has any of those, you know, the big old books that you

might have had at the time whenever you were younger, see how many errors there's

probably in there now. If you go pull up a 1980s encyclopedia

and look up anything that's related in the science field, even see how many things

are different now that they have come up with something different

between 1980 and just now. So it's very different from

what we might know today. So if we read any book written

by someone that's as old as the Bible, I would expect the

scientific information that is contained within that book to be

very outdated, probably based upon the beliefs and

the information that someone might have had at the time that it was written.

Some of those would be outdated. So if a book is solely written by man,

a man can only write what they can know, right? I can't

come up with anything that I don't know and write it. So a man can

only write what they know. The book would only contain things within that person's knowledge

at the time of the writing. So how

we got here, the shape of the earth, why does it rain,

what causes somebody to get sick— their views on those

things over the course of time has been very different from long

time ago to today. The answer to all those questions has been drastically

different in the mindset of mankind. They've come up with

all sorts of things to answer those questions.

Their views on those things at the time it was written would be outdated

now with new information. But the Bible is different because it's not just

any old book. My hope in this study tonight, as we

look at some of the verses written long ago that contain information about

the world around us, that it's going to tell us 2 things.

The first one is the things written at the

time that they were written by the person who wrote it, added in with

their current knowledge on the subject, it doesn't make sense. That the

Bible is a book filled with only the thoughts

of mankind. It just doesn't make sense. There's no logical way

that you would come to that conclusion, that if it's a man's thoughts

written down by a man only, that this information would be in

here based upon the date of the Bible. The second

thing is the absence of some of the

things as we read these Because some of

the things that we're going to talk about, a lot of different suggestions

for the reason why or how we should go about doing

certain things are drastically different over the course of time that mankind has

come up with. And you don't see any of those in the Bible either.

It's only the things that are 100% true to

the fact, things that are 100% real within the science things.

It's not been disproven. Kind of the same with the archaeological stuff

that we talked about on Sunday night. Everything they dig up,

it just points to the Bible being true. Well, everything that science

proves over the course of time, some of those things

are already in here, and they've been here for a very long time. We're just

coming to really know about them. So those

are the 2 things that I hope to accomplish in this class. The one thing

that I'm not trying to do is this: My intention is

not to convince you that God specifically put these things in

the Bible so that we would have the answers to the scientific questions

of the world. These things that we cover are just things that God

has revealed in a way. A lot of times it's in the giving of a

law for a different reason altogether, but it's just information that we

would call science that so happens to be in the Bible that

is exactly what we believe today and what they've found out to be 100% true.

And so these things are things that science— it's not a theory

of science. There's a lot of things out there that are theories in science that

go against maybe what the Bible might say, but those are theories. We're talking

about proven things in the, in the world of science

or in the realm of science that are also in the Bible. I'm also by

no means trying to act as if there's a bunch of hidden gems in Scripture

like it's the, you know, the Da Vinci Code or something

or other where we're trying to find all sorts of stuff in here

that give us the answers to all everything that's out there in the world.

That's not what I'm intending to, to show you with this, but what I'm trying

to show you is things that are science-related

in the Bible match up with things

that we see around us in the world and the things that they know that

are true And of course, we know they're true because God said so.

So these are just things revealed by the Creator long before

they became scientific common knowledge. And it should allow your

faith in scriptures of them being God-breathed to

be increased. And because there's so many things in the Bible that when

they were written compared to when they became scientific common knowledge, it makes

no sense again that book— this book, the Bible, was written just

by man. So a study like this

is probably going to cause you to start wondering. It did me anyways.

I've actually looked at some of these things before, and it starts to make you

think as you read the Bible, what other things have we— are in here that

I just read over and maybe I didn't even realize?

There's things about this world that God mentions that maybe we just didn't even

think about before. An example of having the kind of

thoughts that I think we should have with this is Matthew Maury.

He's known as the father of oceanography. He read Psalm

8 while he was— I think he was in a hospital, if I remember

right. I can't remember exactly. There's actually a video on this, like a documentary.

But in Psalm 8, it says, beginning in verse 3, when I consider your heavens,

the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars which you have ordained,

what is man that you are mindful of him and the son of man that

you visit him? For You have made Him a little lower than the angels,

and You have crowned Him with glory and honor. You have made Him have dominion

over the works of Your hands, and You have put all things under His

feet, all sheep and oxen, even the beasts of the field, the birds

of the air, and the fish of the sea that pass through the

paths of the seas. O Lord, O Lord, how excellent is Your

name in all the earth! So our religious man,

he read Psalm 8 and decided, you know what, the Bible says

there's paths in the seas. And in that,

if the Bible says it, if God says it, they've got to be there.

You know, this is the conclusion that he came up with. That's the kind of

faith that he had in the Scriptures, is that if the Bible says

there's paths in the seas, there must be paths in the seas. So he

sought out to discover them, and he ended up mapping the ocean currents and

found that just like there's highways on land, There are paths

and there are currents in the ocean. Now, this instance may

not be considered, again, scientific foreknowledge by some

people because someone could be

discussing paths of the sea and say, well, maybe he's talking about the

paths that, you know, fish might take, normal paths.

If you're a big fisherman, you probably know that the channel cats,

catfish, hang out in the channels and things like that. But again,

it's the terminology there is pass in the sea. Are there pass

in the sea? Yes, there's. If there weren't

pass in the seas and then we came and read the Bible and it says

that there are pass in the seas, then we would say, oh, well, now we've

got a problem. But again, it's just some scientific information that's given to us

about there being pass in the seas. And sure enough,

this man, Maury, Matthew Maury,

went looking for them, and then he found them. And I

only share this with you because it shows how Maury looked at the scripture.

He didn't feel like the Bible and science were battling each other out

to prove one wrong. Instead, he decided, I'm going

to look at scripture and I'm going to look in my field of science,

and I'm going to put the two together and see what I can come up

with. And he's decided they do go together, you know, the Creator

and his creation. So There's 3 things that I'm going to look at tonight.

I've got some other stuff at the end if we have time, or again,

if you all have one that you've studied before and you want to bring

it up, feel free to do so. But there's 3 of them that I picked

out specifically in our time that I want to look at where I feel

like the Scripture— Scriptures and science are not battling it

out against each other, but they go hand in hand with one another. And the

first one is circumcision. And vitamin K.

So if you want to turn over to Genesis, Genesis chapter 17,

Genesis 17 · chapter mention

we're going to start there where in Genesis 17:1-2,

Genesis 17:1–2

God makes a covenant with Abram. It says in

verse 1 of Genesis 17, when Abram was 99

years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, I am Almighty God.

Walk before me and be blameless, and I will make my covenant between

me and you and I will multiply you exceedingly.

And then in verses 7 through 11, God says that

covenant is not just with Him and Abram, but also Abram's

descendants. And a sign of the covenant, that was that the male children

were to be circumcised. That was going to be the sign of this covenant that

He made with Abram. And then we get to verse 12,

which says, He who is 8 days old among you shall be circumcised.

Every male child in your generations, he who is born in your house

or bought with money from any foreigner who is not of your descendant.

So Genesis 17:12 commands that male

Genesis 17:12

children be circumcised, and the key is on the 8th

day, so whenever one is 8 days old.

Now, as we read that, we may skip over the time

between a male child being born and when

he is to be circumcised, and we just may not think twice about it.

You know, we just may say, you know, that's just the day that God

picked. He just decided 8 days for whatever reason. That's what he decided

to do. Or maybe your inner Maury kicks in and

you say, I wonder why God decided to do it in 8 days.

Why did he say whenever they're 8 days old,

that's when you circumcise the male child? Is it significant

for some reason? Would the people just know why? Or— because

God didn't explain why. He didn't give a reason for the 8th day.

He just said, do it on the 8th day. So the question would be,

did the people already know the answer to that question, why to do it on

the 8th day? If it wasn't significant or important,

then why didn't God just say, as soon as you can,

within a week, at some point,

circumcise the male child. But no, he was pretty specific on

when he wanted that male child to be circumcised.

He just said the 8th day.

Now let's look at the science side of things and what we now know.

Again, it wouldn't be known at the time of where we're reading

that in Genesis chapter 17,

Genesis 17 · chapter mention

but has anyone in here had surgery before? Pretty good chance,

probably. It's an adult class. If you're a bad kid like

me, you probably were in the emergency room all the time, had surgery all

the time. But sometimes when you have surgery, depending upon what

it is that you are having to do, you have to do some pre-op stuff

sometimes. You got to go in, give blood, you got to, you know, they might

check out your heart and see if you're going to be, you know, stout enough

to be able to have the surgery, whatever it is. Even some tests again to

see if you might have some kind of a complication from it. One complication

of any surgery really is you might bleed to death.

I guess I would think if they're cutting you open, that's always a possibility.

I mean, probably not all the time going to happen, I wouldn't think, but it's

a possibility if you're bleeding. Well, if circumcision,

if that's a surgery, there's going to be blood with that. So that's a

possibility unless there's something to stop the bleeding whenever

you're cut. There's a chance that you might bleed to death.

Then comes learning about vitamin K. So in the early

1930s— and now I'm not sure if

I was to Google when was Genesis 17 written,

there probably is some kind of debate about that. I'm not sure what the dates

are that they give, but how many of you believe it's before 1930?

Everybody, probably, right? So I

don't think it's very hard to find somebody that wouldn't say that. So in the

early 1930s, a Danish

biochemist, Henrik Dam, discovered vitamin K while

studying cholesterol metabolism in chicks. And I

mean baby chickens, not chicks, but baby chickens.

1930s. Its name, vitamin K,

for the German word starting with K,

coagulations with a K. So it's

the coagulations vitamin. So our word coagulate

with the C means what? Anybody know what that is?

When your blood does that, it kind of gels

up, it coagulates. It's the process, it says, by which a

liquid, most commonly blood when you're talking about it, thickens into a

gel or solid state to form a clot.

So that's what the definition of coagulate is. It acts as a

crucial defense mechanism to stop bleeding after an injury and begin the

tissue repair process. So 1930s,

Henrik Dam figures out vitamin K is really the vitamin

that helps blood clot. Basically, he figured that out by working

on studying cholesterol metabolism in baby chickens.

So I'm sure people in the time of Genesis 17 was

written have cut themselves before. I mean,

we— how many of you cut yourself pretty often? I work in construction. I cut

myself almost every day, it seems like. They probably have

cut themselves as an adult and saw the blood

stop. And didn't think twice about it. Just, that's what happens, you know. If I

cut myself, as long as I do something to it, you know, put some kind

of something on it, or depends on how bad it is, blood stops.

That's what happens. They didn't know how it happened specifically,

probably. They didn't know anything about vitamin K, but they knew if

I cut myself, if I do something,

eventually it hopefully will stop bleeding by itself.

I'm also sure anyone at that time might— would understand

if they circumcised a male, that would obviously cause them to bleed.

But my guess is they would expect, just like their own cuts,

if I circumcise this child, that bleeding will eventually, you know,

stop. So that wouldn't be a thought process in their mind

of, what is going to happen when we circumcise this child?

What if they don't— what if they don't quit bleeding? Probably not

even in their realm of thought process. They didn't need to know about vitamin

K again specifically to know blood ends up clotting.

But back to our original question, why the 8th

day? So modern medicine tells

us that through studies in the 1900s that infants

are born with low levels of vitamin K that

steadily rise naturally peak in the newborn,

guess when? Not on the first day,

not on the second day, not on the third day.

I'm gonna skip the other for time purposes, but we're gonna— on the 8th day

is when it peaks. Now you may

be like me and thinking, I've had 2 boys myself, so maybe

there's some of you in here that have had boys or You know, we just

had a grandson this last week, and on the second

day of him being in the hospital, they circumcised him and he came home.

And you'd say, well, what happened there then? That's not the 8th day. Why did

your grandson not bleed to death if he doesn't have enough vitamin K?

Well, it's because back— you must— they must have figured out something else

since the 1930s then, because in the 1940s,

due to Swedish scientists scientist Jorgen Lehmann's studies,

they began administering vitamin K to newborns to

get them to day 8 levels prior to performing circumcisions.

So if you've had someone in your family that's had it before the 8th day,

it's because they basically give them a vitamin K shot now to get them up

to the 8th day vitamin K levels before they perform that circumcision

so that the newborn's blood will clot

And all that will happen. So the question

then becomes, in Genesis 17, we can

all agree well before 1930, how do you

think Moses, who wrote this, if it's just his

thoughts and it's just a man-written book,

how do we have any kind of explanation of why did he pick

the 8th day? What would be someone's thought process

on that? Anybody have a good thing that someone might use against that of how

did he just come up with the 8th day? Was it a random coincidence that

he just decided, I'm going to pick a number? Maybe Moses' favorite number was 8.

I don't know. That would be the only thing. Yeah, that's the

only thing you can come up with. Did he spin a wheel or did they

even have a wheel? Spin a wheel with numbers and picked one?

I mean, how would he have known it? Or did God,

who created us and knows exactly how we work,

give detailed instructions because he already knew the science behind

blood and how it clots? You want to know how he knows it? Because he

created us and he knew that they

needed to wait 8 days before they performed this circumcision.

Yeah, Bill. Abraham was circumcised at 99 years old. Yeah,

he had plenty of vitamin K. Yeah, yeah.

But just like a doctor planning a surgery,

they want you to wait until the body is at the strongest point. So if

you go in for those tests and you need to do some things before surgery

or whatever it is, they're like, you gotta, you gotta get yourself ready, you know,

for this surgery because it's a big deal. You got some things you've got to

do you know, God gave this instruction

thousands of years before we understood

how blood clotting worked. Again, it's not that the people in Genesis didn't know blood

clotted. Again, I'm sure they've cut themselves,

but they didn't understand what we know now. But then

again, what we know now just backs up what God

has told us. It just doesn't make sense why,

if it wasn't an inspired book given to us by

the one who created us to have the 8th day in there. It would have

been— it would have been easier to just leave that out if it was

written by a man and just not be wrong in that case. But again,

what does— what does this show us about God too?

Does he care? Yeah, and he,

he cares about us too. Like, he created us He cares about

us even in this law that He's given to make a covenant with

people and the thing that was required. He's still making sure that

I'm not going to do something that is going to cause, you know,

harm in some bad way. He cared enough to protect in

His giving of the instruction. And to me, this also shows, and this goes

with everything we're going to cover tonight, that His wisdom comes

way before our understanding. We may not

understand, and this doesn't— outside of even scientific foreknowledge, we're coming tonight.

As you read the Bible, you're going to read some things that say that

you're going to say, well, that doesn't make sense sometimes. But his wisdom

comes before our understanding. He's wiser than us.

He's the one who created us. He knows more about

us than we would ever even begin to know. So sometimes when

you read things and you say, I don't understand why I can't do this,

or I don't understand why I have to do this,

It's the same reason why he said the 8th day, because he knows us

intimately and he knows what's best for us and he cares about us

and loves us. All those things going to play. Do you have something, Russell?

Yeah,

yeah.

And there's even— I didn't even know that they do this, which it makes sense

to me now because I'm sure there's some, uh, Jews that still,

you know, because there's a, there's a lady that Amanda used to

work with that works at Gray's and Gilbert now, and like, that's one of her

roles is the people who bring in their babies on the 8th day still because

they don't take the vitamin K shot. They wait and bring their babies in on

the 8th day and still do it. On the 8th day. But again, that,

that just blows my mind. I mean, how many times have you just read over

that on the 8th day? And, and again, as you, as you see that,

you're going to start looking at scripture differently now because you're going to start seeing

things and say, I wonder what— just like I said, the Maori guy

with the, oh, it says there's passing seas, I'm gonna go look for them and

see if I can find them. And again, I'm not saying that that's what the—

that 8th day was in there given as an instruction because God is making

a covenant with Abram.

It just so happens that that is scientific information given to us.

I don't think God put that in there so that we'd find it in 1930

and say and point back, but he may have. I can't speak for God.

I don't, I don't know, you know, his ways are higher than my ways.

That may very well be why it's in there, but I'm not saying that that's

why any of these things are in here. It's just scientific information you're going to

find in the Bible that doesn't disprove any anything.

So next we're going to look at the water cycle.

Now anybody know what the water cycle is? I think that there was a

song for this whenever we were in school, but I can't remember what it is,

so I'm not going to sing it. But possibly there's one, maybe somebody here knows

it, or maybe it was one of those Schoolhouse Rock things or something, I don't

know. But basically we have evaporation,

which is when water heats up and rises as individual invisible

vapor, condensation, that vapor cools,

gathers back into the water in the clouds, and then precipitation,

the water falls back to the earth as rain.

That's the cycle of water, you know, on our planet. We have it

evaporates up, gets in the clouds, clouds get heavy, rain comes

down, cycle repeats itself, you know, over and over

again. Well, what about the science of that?

Anybody know of any kind of weird ways that have been out

there for a long time of how people thought we got water?

There's all sorts of stuff out there. Google that sometime. It's very interesting,

some of the stuff. Well, 600 BC,

Thales thought rivers were fed by ocean water pushed up through

the mountains. It's almost like a reverse French

press, I guess, or something like that, where The water goes up and then it

just runs down the mountains. 350 BC,

Aristotle saw the sun evaporate water but still doubted

that it was enough to fill the rivers. You know, that evaporation just didn't make

sense, that, that little amount of condensation-y type water

vapor and all that, how does that fill up all these rivers? How does that

cause the seas to be full of water? The water has to come from somewhere

else as well. Well, Leonardo da Vinci in the 1500s began

removing the idea that water had to come from somewhere else.

And there was all sorts of stuff that I read before this about different things

dumping water out and all sorts of things. But then John Dalton in 1802

put the numbers together and proved that the water cycle is a closed loop,

like what I mentioned at the beginning. Water evaporates up

in the air, the clouds gather together, dumps back out as rain that runs

down the rivers, goes into the ocean, evaporates out, same exact

thing. Why did it take so long?

Why did it take so long to understand that this is— I mean, we all

know that that's what it is now, right? Well,

the human eye cannot see water vapor at

the level in which it's actually being vaporized and going up there.

We can't see how much water vapor is around us all the time. Now you

can feel it during the time of year right now. I worked outside all day

today and My shirt tells a different story. Lots of water vapor out

there, lots of humidity. It required also the invention of measuring tools

and advancing in accounting. We had to get some people like Roger out there,

the big numbers guys, to finally prove that there

is enough for it to be a closed-loop system,

to make sense that the rain that comes down

is enough to fill the rivers and the seas and the oceans

and all those things like that. But this is something that Scripture's already

told us long ago, long before all that— those

dates that are up there. The verses are Job 26:8,

Job 26:8

Job 36:27-28, and then Ecclesiastes 1:7,

Job 36:27–28 Ecclesiastes 1:7

which I feel like is basically the water cycle. It says that

all the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full.

To the place from which the rivers come, there they return again.

So he's basically saying it's a cycle there. Of course,

that's Solomon who was given wisdom by who?

By God. It's the closest thing to the water cycle word

for word that John Dalton finally figured out and put into numbers in 1802.

Solomon telling us and wisdom God gave him that the water we have

is a closed-loop system. Because if it

wasn't— so a lot of the people at the early stages again felt

like we still have to be getting water from somewhere else. Like it doesn't make

sense that all this water comes from

just out of the sky and keeps replenishing itself and all those kinds of things.

But it really does make sense because if new water, if we

kept adding new water and it kept running down

the mountains and in the rivers and into the oceans and into

the seas, what would happen?

Yeah, we'd be covered in water, wouldn't we? It only— it makes sense

to us now, and again, it's right there in Ecclesiastes 1:7,

Ecclesiastes 1:7

but for a very long time that didn't make sense to a lot of people.

And that's what I was saying at the beginning, you'll see some things that are

It doesn't make sense that they're in there based on the time in which they

were written if it was only written by man and of

the thoughts of man. And then there's also things that aren't in there, like the

weird ideas that I mentioned of all sorts of things that are possibilities

that people have come up with over time. You're not going to find those in

scriptures either. And then in Job, we see in 26:8,

it says, he binds up the water in his thick clouds, yet the clouds

are are not broken under it. Again, that's kind of that condensation part

of the water cycle. And then Job 36:27-28,

Job 36:27–28

for he draws up drops of water which distill his rain

from the mist which the clouds drop down and pour

abundantly on man. So now

one could say those aren't specific enough.

One might say, even some people might say, well, Job, some of Job

is figurative and maybe you can't take some things literal.

It's lacking details. Again, that's you thinking that

the Bible is a science book. It's not meant to be a science book.

The revelation of these details weren't given for the purpose of us

understanding the water cycle. That's not the purpose of these things

given to us, but it's to show us God's wisdom and

that he is the Creator and he is the one who is in control over

everything. That's what those verses are telling us. But they're also giving us the information

that matches up with what science tells us about how our water works here

on this earth. So you can, however, look at these verses and

come away with these conclusions. They do contain information given

to us that was not fully understood by mankind at

the time of its writing. Yet now we know them to be true, which again

points to it being divinely inspired. They also do

not contain any information other than what is at the current time what

we scientifically know is true, even though again it was

written much earlier. If it was solely written by

man and his finite knowledge, it definitely would have some

of those other things in there. So this one,

the next one is several things within one thing, but I kind of titled it

hygiene and germs. There's all sorts of things about this.

Today, nearly everyone understands that tiny organisms

called germs spread disease. I mean, we understand that.

We wash our hands, we disinfect surfaces, we cover our coughs,

we isolate sick people because modern science has

proven these practices help to stop different illnesses.

Seems common to us, right? We understand that.

But it took a very long time for us to come to that understanding.

As mankind. What is remarkable is that the Bible

instructed God's people to practice many of these things, many of

these same health measures that we now say that that's common

knowledge, you know, everybody knows that, but thousands of

years before anybody even knew germs existed, you know, there's no microscopes,

none of that kind of stuff, lots of times before that. So the Bible never

uses terms like germs, disinfect,

etc. Instead, it's just simply God giving

commandments to protect his people.

They're not going to understand it at the time that he's telling

them in the full scope of how maybe we might understand it today,

but that's what he's doing with this. So many see commandments of

God as coming from an angry man in the sky, you know, forcing them to

do things that you know, that they maybe want to do or keeping them from

doing things. But ultimately, again,

he's just there watching out for us, telling us what's best.

Maybe the Israelites felt that way about some of

these things because they don't know what we know now. Maybe whenever these commandments that

I'm going to read off to you, maybe whenever they heard these, they're probably thinking,

this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that we've got to do this.

But now we know it makes perfect sense, some of

the things that he asked. So looking back again, we can see that some of

these commands were far ahead of the medical knowledge of the ancient world.

So what some people believed about disease. So for

most of history, no one knew germs existed.

Sickness was blamed on angry spirits. A big one was

bad air, curses, astrology,

Superstition, cures, these cures that mankind

has come up with over the course of time often made people worse, whether it

was the bloodletting, animal waste sometimes was used

as medication, mud packed on open wounds,

even Egypt, Greece, and Rome had little idea

really about how that disease actually spread

as it comes to it. Even the idea that

invisible living organisms caused disease was completely

unknown. Again, they didn't have microscopes, they didn't have those kinds of things like we

have now. And with the Bible, again,

not being a science textbook, it doesn't come out and say, do these

things because there's germs and little organisms out there that's going

to get you. But God has given Israel several laws that promoted cleanliness,

and then prevented the spread of disease. And one of those was washing after

contact with disease. And I'm only going to read the first 8 verses of Leviticus

15. I feel like you're going to get the point because it's over and over

again kind of saying the same thing. And it says in Leviticus 15,

beginning in verse 1, and the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying,

speak to the children of Israel and say to them, when any man has a

discharge from his body, his discharge is unclean. And this

shall be his uncleanness in his regard to his discharge, whether his body runs with

his discharge or his body is stopped up by his discharge. It is his uncleanness.

Every bed is unclean on which he who has the discharge lies,

and everything which he sits on shall be unclean. And whoever touches his bed

shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening.

He who sits on anything in which he has had the discharge shall

sit shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and

be unclean until evening. And he who touches the body of him who has

the discharge shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until

evening. If he who has the discharge spits on him who is clean, then he

shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening. Again,

it goes on and on. You can continue reading there. The entire chapter

repeatedly instructed people, wash yourselves.

And wash your clothes after coming in contact with bodily

discharge or someone considered unclean or someone who is sick

or someone who is, you know, has some sort of disease, whatever it is.

And again, that seems pretty basic to us, right? If you're around somebody

and they're sick, stay away from them.

If you come in contact with somebody that's sick, wash yourself.

Pretty basic to us.

I've always thought about 2 scenes as I was going over this. I thought

about 2 different scenes of some shows that one of them I watched pretty regularly,

one of them has been since I was a kid whenever I watched it,

but there's a scene from Everybody Loves Raymond. I don't know if anybody watches

that show, but the title of this episode is The

Sneeze, and it starts out at the very beginning. He's in the airport and this

guy here is washing his hands,

and then he's about to sneeze and he just turned around and just violently sneezes

all over Ray Barone. Just, I mean, goes crazy. And then Ray is

like freaked out. As soon as that guy walks out, he's over like basically scrubbing

his face. And of course he thinks he's sick then the whole entire episode,

and he actually does, I think, end up being sick at the end.

But that's today. If I was to walk around

and get sneezed on by somebody, it would gross me out because now

I'm thinking I'm gonna be sick, whatever that person has. It's on

me now, I'm gonna be sick. And then there's Ace Ventura 2,

I think it's Pet Detective, where it's a show. He's out there

in the— I don't remember what the name of the tribe was, but it was

a show of respect if you spit on each other. So then they

sit there and spit all over each other, and they come out of the tent,

they're just covered in spit. And again, neither one of

these are a true thing that happened, they're TV shows, but it is kind

of showing you Like us today, we understand

I don't need to be around somebody who's going to make me sick and spit

on me. And, you know, there's germs out there, there's things like that, versus someone

in a tribe or something like that that doesn't know those things. They might have

the idea of it's a very nice thing for us to spit on each other,

it's a show of friendship, not knowing that they're spreading germs

of whatever somebody might have. Yes.

Huh? Well, it could be a lot of different things. It's basically

just— yeah, so like a

sore, sore that's open, or it could be just any sort of, any sort of

fluid essentially that's coming from you that shouldn't be type of

thing. And like a leper would have a lot of discharges all over

his body. Or their body, huh?

Oh no, I know what you talk about. Yeah, I got you.

So again, I'm sure most understood this as a religious

ritual whenever they were given the command. They're like, God's just asking

us to do this for whatever reason. He wants to make me

do this. Again, that's what some people's thought process

is about God sometimes, and it doesn't make sense. But it's also a greater

teaching, really what God is doing about being clean and unclean in His presence is

what He's teaching throughout this. But it's also on top of that, giving us

information about you need to be clean. Like,

if you're around someone who's sick, you need to clean yourself and also stay away

from them and those kinds of things like that. So we now understand God is

speaking truth even about health in these verses. And again, if it was just

a religious ritual, He would

have told them to do anything. If it was just a religious ritual, He could

have said, you know, and I don't mean this in a bad way,

hop on one foot or do whatever, you know, it's— but He's given them specific

information to protect them about cleanliness, and on top

of that, it's a teaching about being clean and unclean in His presence. So today

we know washing removes bacteria, viruses, and then also

other harmful organisms. Again, go in any bathroom that deals

with food, etc., and you're going to see employees must wash their hands.

I don't think they do it, but they're supposed to wash their hands

before they go deal with your food. And then although the Israelites might not know

under how the washing worked and what it was actually removing

was germs and all those kinds of things, following God's instructions would

have helped reduce the spread of disease.

One of the more remarkable practices is the quarantine.

In Leviticus 13, God instructs priests to isolate anyone showing

symptoms of infectious skin diseases. So,

like leprosy was mainly what we're talking about here. And in verse 3,

we see that the person was examined. In Leviticus 13, verse 3,

Leviticus 13:3

it says, the priest shall examine the sore on the skin of the body,

and if the hair on the sore has turned white and the sore appears to

be deeper than the skin of his body, it is a leprous sore. And the

priest shall examine him and pronounce him unclean. So that's the first thing,

you have to examine somebody. In verse 4, they're separated from the community

for 7 days. Verse 5, after 7 days they were

examined again. If that disease had spread, they were to remain isolated, and if not,

then they could return. They were considered, you know, not to have leprosy.

Well, today hospitals use that exact same principle.

I think in 2020, I think we maybe learned it a little bit all too

well. About quarantine. When someone has a contagious

illness, they're isolated. What's the purpose behind

that? It's to protect everybody else, right? That's the whole purpose behind

it. Again, seems common to us. I can sit here and say that in

front of you and you're like, this is a no-brainer,

but that's only because it's common to

us now. It's not common at the time in which this

was written. So then we

have handling dead bodies. I might be about out of time, but we'll,

we'll get through this. Numbers 19:11-12 required anyone

Numbers 19:11–12

who touched a dead body to undergo cleansing before returning to their normal

life. It says, he who touches the dead body of anyone shall be unclean

7 days. He shall purify himself with the water on the

3rd day and on the 7th day. Then he will be clean. But if he

does not purify himself on the 3rd day and on the 7th day, he will

not be clean. Again, modern medicine recognizes that dead bodies, especially during epidemics

and things like that, can carry harmful bacteria and infectious diseases.

Again, the Israelites simply obeyed God's command without understanding

microbiology like we understand today.

The disposal of human waste, probably one of the

most impressive health laws found in Deuteronomy 23:9-13. When the army

Deuteronomy 23:9–13

goes out against your enemies, Keep yourself from every wicked thing.

And if there is any man among you who becomes unclean by some occurrence in

the night, then he shall go outside the camp. He shall not come inside the

camp. But it shall be when evening comes that he shall wash with water,

and when the sun sets he may come into the camp. Also you shall have

a place outside the camp where you may go out, and you shall have an

implement among your equipment. And when you sit down outside, you shall dig with

it and turn and cover your refuse or cover, you know,

your waste. So God instructed Israel to place outside

the camp for human waste to bury it. The Israelites followed God's

command, but today we understand why. Again, to them, they might have

said, why, why do I have to do this? Doesn't make any sense.

But human waste can spread cholera,

dysentery, typhoid, hepatitis,

parasites. And throughout history,

there's no telling how much poor sanitation— how many people have been killed

by poor sanitation. Probably millions of people.

I've even seen older videos. Now they're starting to put some like older videos of

New York City and stuff. They've like added the color and stuff to

it and all that kind of stuff where you can watch those. And I've seen

where people are just throwing it out their windows out into the streets.

Like that's just what they're doing with it. So that, that's in

our country, and we just celebrated, you know,

250 years. Of course, New York City's been there maybe a little longer than that,

but tons of pandemics throughout history were

spread by poor sanitation practices. In 1846,

the London cholera pandemic killed 16,000 people, you know,

at that time. But the Bible instructed proper sanitation

over 3,000 years before modern public health

discovered how important that it truly is. So dealing

with all these things, science eventually discovered—

for centuries, again, doctors still do not, didn't understand

disease transmission. 1847, Ignaz— your

guess is as good as mine— Semmelweis required

doctors to wash their hands. And then deaths dropped sharply.

So this is in 1847, they still weren't washing their hands. I think if I

remember right, I think it was my son was telling me that it was even

a sign of a good surgeon the bloodier his apron

was because it meant he had performed more surgery. Like didn't even

wash their, you know, aprons or anything like that for a very long time.

So even his colleagues were mocking him for washing his hands in 1847.

Before surgeries. Louis Pasteur in the 1860s,

he was a French scientist. He developed the germ theory of disease,

demonstrated that tiny microorganisms cause many illnesses. And again,

that completely changed medicine to how we know it now.

And then Joseph Lister in 1867 was a British surgeon who

applied Pasteur's theories or discoveries to surgery and began

sterilizing instruments and cleaning wounds with antiseptics

and things like that, and death rates from surgery fell dramatically.

Again, today those practices are used worldwide.

We don't think anything about them, but that's totally different than the people

in Leviticus and the people in the age of that. That's a totally different

realm of dates. It's totally different. So the timeline is around

1445 BC, or again, whatever date you want to throw at that, Moses records

laws on washing, quarantine, sanitation, all those

things. And then we get to 1847 when we finally

start saying, maybe we should wash our hands, and maybe

we should, you know, do something with our waste, or maybe

we should kind of stay away from people that are sick and quarantine people and

things like that. You know, it's quite an age gap. There between those.

How do— again, the question comes to, how do we explain

what Moses wrote with such accuracy? How do we explain that

he came up with these things if it's just a book written by man?

Was he just writing what he felt would be a good

idea on all these issues, and it just so happens that he was right

on all these issues? Or Again, was it the

Creator of the universe who gave these instructions to Moses,

who knows how we work, who knows the things that are best

for us? And that's the reason why we have these written like this.

Again, it's— they weren't— they were written in there as laws

to keep people clean and unclean, but they're also

Now we see the benefits of it as we read over them now today,

knowing what we know now that maybe we didn't know there.

Someone might say, why doesn't

God just give us the specifics? You know, instead of just

do this and don't do that, why not say circumcise

the babies on the 8th day because of vitamin K? Why didn't

He put that in there? Or why not expel it— spell out to us exactly

how the water cycle works? Or why not simply announce, you know what,

there's little germs out there, you can't see them, you don't understand it,

but they're out there, so wash your hands and do these things.

Goes back to my introduction. The purpose of the

Bible is to teach people about God and salvation,

not to help us figure out the world's details.

I'm giving you this information because it's scientific information that we now know to be

true, and it just so happens that it's in the Bible.

Again, I don't know that God gave us the day 8 for the specifics

so that today we'd understand. It's a faith-building

thing if we go back and now know, hey, it said it here in this.

I don't, I don't know. I can't speak for God. I don't know why he

says things that he says. I'm not on his level. But all I do know

is everywhere where a scientific thing is mentioned in the Bible,

anything that is a proven scientific fact, there's nothing that's

refuted. There's nothing in the Bible that has been proven—

that science has proven it to be wrong. And there's nothing in there

that could be proven wrong by science. Now there's theories out there,

that's a whole different thing. There's lots of theories out there by science that aren't

proven things, it's just the thoughts of people that may not match up with what's

in your Bible, but there's nothing that is proven by science that

is outside of what you have in your Bible that would say that

this is the smoking gun that proves that God is not

real, that this is just a book written by man.

None of that stuff is out there. But what we do see, that is,

whenever the Bible touches subjects involving the natural world

It is consistently accurate all the

time. Sometimes we don't see the accuracy until

many years later, many years later, which should again tell

us— see, I'm behind on a click. I knew I was going to do it.

His wisdom comes before our understanding. And this class

was about scientific foreknowledge, but I want you to leave with

that in your mind, that that goes with every verse.

That goes with everything that's in the Bible. So whenever you

read something and you just say, I don't understand this,

his wisdom comes before our understanding. So anybody have any comments

or questions yet? Yeah, I just didn't want you to move on from

the germs and the waste. God took it

a step further, and it's kind of sprinkled throughout the Old Testament, but basically

the recipe for antibacterial soap is in there. Ashes run

through water, hyssop, and cedarwood. And like the oil from the cedarwood has

some sort of antibacterial— yeah. So he didn't just say

like stay away from them and like run yourself under water. There's literally

like a chemical makeup here. And then who knows when Dial

came up with like, hey, this will work. Yeah. And there's—

I, I've got this up here too, like if y'all wanted to take— there's,

there's way more than this too, like The life being in the blood, Leviticus 17:11.

Leviticus 17:11

Of course, like everything, that's like they can take our blood now and

tell you every single thing about you. Like everything about us is in our blood.

The round earth or a sphere, of course you could go to Job

where it says it hangs on nothing. That's one of those things that some people

debate about. Again, it's— again, it's just scientific information though.

It depends on how you're looking at scientific foreknowledge. I see it as scientific

information in the Bible that we see now is true.

The vastness of the stars, which they talked about how they're in the,

in the skit of how they're innumerable, that we now

know that now, like you, you can't count them all. That's why he said don't,

don't go by the telescope. I think we all believe

details matter, but God is in the details.

Yeah, he's there. Yeah. Try to outwit him or

outthink him. Yeah. You got to go create your own dust.

Well, thank you for your time. Thank you.