The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Debunked - Pastor Jonathan Shelley | Stedfast Baptist Church

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The title of my sermon this evening is The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Debunked and I've been going through

a doctrinal series for our church and we're kind of at the last few things that we have

in a list of heresies or false doctrines and we're kind of like on the second to

last we've got one more modalism after this, all right?

But Pre-Tribulation Rapture being a false doctrine is not our doctrinal statement

and I was going to spend time this evening just simply going through a particular argument

for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture that I've heard.

So there's someone that I grew up under, his name is Jimmy Evans, he was the pastor of a

church called Trinity Fellowship Church.

It's a church I grew up in my whole life and growing up as a young adult and he taught

the Pre-Tribulation Rapture consistently, I mean I would argue once or twice a month

like almost on a regular basis, this is a common thing that I heard growing up and I'll

be honest with you, I did believe in that and I thought that that was what the Bible

did teach for most of my youth, most of being raised and then I ended up trying to prove

the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and I am changing my position, so you know, but I want to

go through some of the arguments that he makes and just see what the Bible says

on this particular issue because unfortunately in this video he claims that you can prove

the Pre-Tribulation Rapture with the Bible alone, which is the right idea, you should

be able to preach doctrines only from the Bible, but the problem is it doesn't exist

in the Bible of course.

Now this is his number one point, this is his point one of proving the Pre-Tribulation

Rapture from the Bible explicitly as he says let's go to Revelation 6 verse 12,

Revelation 6:12

and I'd be held when he'd open the sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake.

So this is his proof text that there's a Pre-Tribulation Rapture and this is the statement

he makes before reading this verse, he says, this is the beginning of the tribulation.

I looked when he opened the sixth seal, you know that there's five numbers for six?

Like this is crazy, like I was kind of just flabbergasted that I'm sitting here

thinking like this guy says this is the beginning of the tribulation,

tribulation equals wrath, here's the proof sixth seal.

What about the first seal?

What about the second seal?

What about the third seal?

What about all the other preceding seals?

Why are we just starting in the middle of the book of Revelation?

Why are we starting in verse number 12?

And again his main point is this, that tribulation is the wrath of God.

Now he reads this whole passage but let's just read it for ourselves as well.

It says, and I'd be held when he'd open the sixth seal and lo there was a great

earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became as

blood and the stars of heaven fell under the earth even as a fig tree cast of

their untimely figs when she was shaken of a mighty wind and the heaven departed

as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain island were moved

out of their places and the kings of the earth and the great men and the

rich men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bond man and

every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the

mountains and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us from

the face of him that sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the lamb for

the great day of his wrath is come and who shall be able to stand.

So of course the Bible does explain there is going to be a period of time

where the wrath of God is poured out on the earth and I would agree that

this is the timeline when the wrath of God begins.

The problem is is that it's the sixth seal and it didn't say this is

when the tribulation begins it just says this is the wrath and this is what

you'll notice from a pre-tribulation preacher or pastor is they'll confuse

terms they'll just say things like tribulation and then point to wrath or

point to wrath and call it tribulation or they'll use the tribulation to

mean the whole seven year period of time and then they conflate that

again with wrath and they really they depend on the audience being ignorant

of what the Bible teaches. They're hoping the congregation hasn't read the Bible at

all or is unfamiliar with these chapters hasn't thought about it at all and so

they're just cherry picking a verse here and there and just kind of jumping

around and it's confusing. You know let's let's spend some time and think

about why this is not true that the tribulation is the wrath of God. Well

I would say number one is we didn't even talk about the first five

seals. Let's let's read a little bit preceding these verses look at verse

number nine and when he'd opened the fifth seal I saw under the altar the souls

of them that were slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they

held and they cried to the loud voice saying how long a Lord holy and true

does thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell in the earth

and white robes were given to every one of them and it was said in them

that they should rest yet for a little season until their fellow servants

also in their brethren that should be killed as they were should be fulfilled.

So in chapter six it gives us all six seals up to this point but it doesn't

necessarily give us a timeline in this specific chapter okay doesn't say

exactly how long seal one is it doesn't say how long seal two is it

doesn't say how long seal three is. If I were to try and be gracious

under this position you would almost have to believe that all six seals are

opened simultaneously to then come up with this derived meaning or derived idea

that the tribulation is wrath. But here's the problem the fifth seal

explicitly is telling you there's a timeline difference between it and the

sixth one. It's saying hey how long are you are you gonna wait and he's

like hey you still have to wait at least a little season. So we have to

realize that the fifth seal and the sixth seal cannot be the exact same

timeline. So if the sixth seal is the beginning of the wrath of God then what

was the fifth seal? And of course we understand it because we actually

understand the Bible that that's the great tribulation. So what the Bible

really teaches is the first four seals tribulation. The fifth seal great

tribulation. The sixth seal the wrath of God. And look Jimmy Evans is not

ignorant of this because he said in the same video there's some people who

believe that we're going to be raptured right before the wrath kind of a

little bit around the midpoint of the tribulation of the seven year

period and he's like but you know that doesn't make any sense because

tribulation is wrath. Okay well you know let's keep debunking that

point go to Matthew chapter number 24 go to Matthew chapter number 24 and

then he has some other points that we're going to dispel here in a

minute. But mostly the argument for pre-trib is just well I just don't

think God would cause us to live through tribulation or I don't think God

would appoint us to tribulation. But see they can't say that because the

Bible doesn't say that they say well God doesn't appoint us to wrath and

that is a verse in the Bible. So then they have to conflate tribulation

with wrath in your mind so then they can say well I don't think God

would cause us to live in a dangerous world and all this bad stuff

and people are dying and it's like well aren't people dying now? What about

throughout history? Has there been times of tribulation in the history? You

know and it really starts to fall apart. But here's another problem is the

parallels in the Bible of this particular text so we just read in

Revelation 6 how the sun's darkened and the moon's not given her light and

there's just all these different descriptions well that's mentioned in

the book of Matthew. Now let's you know let's just see when that happens

according to Matthew 24 verse 29. Immediately after the tribulation of

Matthew 24:29

those days saw the sun be darkened and the moon should not give her light and

the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be

shaken. Okay maybe I should add you keep your finger here but I'll just

read for you again from Matthew or I'm sorry from Revelation chapter

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6 verse number 12 which is where he was pointing us to. Sorry I'm going to

print the page. He said or the Bible says and behold when he had opened the

sixth seal and lo there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as

saffcock of hair and the moon became as blood and the stars of heaven fell

under the earth. Okay isn't that exactly what it says in verse 29? The

sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the

stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be shaken. Now

it says here and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven

and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the

Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. So

they're mourning. Okay okay what did it say in Revelation chapter number

six? It said in the kings of the earth and the great men and the rich

men and the chief captains and the mighty men and every bottom and

every free men hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the

mountains and said to the mountains and rocks fall on us and hide us

from the face of them that sit on the throne from the wrath of the

lamb. Doesn't that kind of sound like the great men that we're seeing here?

I mean what does it say here in verse 30? It says in the Son of Man of

heaven and then shall the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall

see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power

and great glory. Isn't that exactly what we're seeing in Revelation

chapter number six? And in verse 31 and he shall send his angels

with a great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his

elect from the four winds from one end of the heaven to the

other. So this is what we would call the rapture. Now again the

word rapture is not in the Bible. It's a derived term of just

talking about something being caught up or seized up and

again that's the actual language of 1st Thessalonians

chapter number four is being caught up. So again this caught

up is then where we derive the term quote rapture, something

to be caught up, something to be seized up and again that's what

we believe. We believe people that are saved and still alive

physically at one point there's a point in human history where

they'll be caught up together with Christ in the clouds and

now does this happen? Do we all become Superman and we can

fly? No. According to the biblical text the angels come

and they gather us together. So then all the angels are

coming and gathering. You know you could you could argue

maybe it's just that God has to whittle down to where

there's enough uh there's enough angels to get us up

there or something. I don't know it's a joke okay but it's

just like hey hey we're getting carried up there so it's

just those that are alive and remain under the coming of

the Lord. The angels are gonna come and the angels are

gonna carry us up and we'll be together with the Lord.

That's exactly what the Bible's saying and notice when

is this according to Revelation uh Revelation

chapter six the sixth seal. Yeah. Okay the sixth seal is

the exact same timeline as this is being described.

Now in verse thirty-two now learn a parable of the fig tree

when his branch is yet tender and put it forth his leaves

you know that summer is nigh. Revelation chapter number

six is saying and the stars of heaven fell into the earth

even as a fig tree cast that they're untimely figs when she

is shaken of a mighty wind. I mean it's like what do you

need the Bible to say here? Right. That's pretty tough. I mean it's just

like point point point point point point point point

just like the exact same text and verse thirty-three so

likewise ye when ye shall see all these things know that it is

near even at the doors. So again we have this description

telling us explicitly that what that the wrath started in

Revelation chapter six but what do we also have it tell us

in Matthew twenty-four? It says in verse number twenty-nine

immediately after the tribulation. So you know what the

Bible doesn't do it doesn't conflate tribulation with

wrath at all because it says leading up to this event

was the tribulation after the tribulation is the wrath

and the wrath started after the tribulation.

So in fact Revelation six twelve clearly teaches that

tribulation is not the wrath of God it's the exact opposite

it's not the exact opposite but it's at least it's just the

Bible is making a clear dividing line between

tribulation and wrath. The reason why I would say it's

opposite is because tribulation typically when the

Bible is coming from the devil and from the wrath is

coming from God. Now again the Bible uses the word

tribulation in a broad sense sometimes the

tribulation God is giving to people so tribulation just

means trouble but in general the the the

tribulation for the saints is coming from Satan the

antichrist the wrath of God is coming from God himself

okay so that's why they're kind of in a sense different

things that we're talking about obviously they're both

negative though so they do share in that parallel only

but let's read some more in Matthew 24. Look at verse

number eight the Bible says that all these are the

beginning of sorrows. Verse nine then shall they

deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you

and you should be hated of all nations for my name's

sake. You know this idea that the Christian life is

one without pain without sorrow without tribulation

is foreign to Scripture. It's only this like Joel

Osteen blessed life version of Christianity that

could somehow get away with this concept or idea

that you become a Christian and it's all roses or

something and of course that is a belief by some

some people believe that your life is hard and

everything's bad and everything's miserable and

everybody has this God shaped hole in their heart

and then when they get saved then everything good

happens and their marriage turns into this

beautiful thing and their family's perfect and

they get a promotion at their work and now

their 401k is flushed with cash and it's

basically just the sunshine no rain every day

until they're just gently taken into heaven

and there's no tribulation there's no just

just all good but you know that's not the

bible and how are we going to be partakers of

Christ's sufferings with that type of trajectory

the bible teaches actually kind of a little bit

different picture it paints a picture where

people are going to not like it's like a country

music song you know it's just like you know

people are going to get mad at you it can cause

marital spats it can cause division within a family

you're going to have you're going to be hated of all

all of all men you know you're going to be

persecuted i mean what is the text saying the text is

saying then shall they deliver you up to be

afflicted and shall kill you that doesn't sound great

that's not your quote best life now your best life is going to be

a millennial reign with christ not on this life

not the first the second okay and again it's it's like

obviously going to cause a lot a lot of problems

verse 10 and then shall many be offended and shall betray one another

and shall hate one another you know because of christianity a lot of

a lot of just conflict a lot of issue a lot of betrayal

and and it's going to be really frustrating we're going to see family

members that you would never assume turn on each other

you're going to have family members turn on you you're going to see just

crazy stuff happening you're going to see conflict

between saved people that doesn't make sense

um you know it's just kind of a sad reality but that is what the bible

is teaching and of course it eventually culminates in what the bible

calls great tribulation look at verse 21 for then shall

be great tribulation such as was not since the

beginning of the world to this time no nor ever shall be

so this is according to the text the worst period of human history

where there's great tribulation so you know leading up to this point

it's just kind of a bloodbath of humanity is what the bible teaches

then there's going to be a great tribulation where it's targeted to the

saved and for this from a saved perspective the

persecution against christians will be the worst at this point in human

history and will never exceed such an event so this will be the worst

event that's ever happened and you know of course there's all

kinds of strange in times views it's not limited to

pre-tribulation rapture there's there's preterism

which which preterism would teach that all of these things have already happened

everything everything in revelation everything in matthew has already happened

and then and then it kind of like well when did that happen

you know and of course they have to try and point to 70 ad

as a partial fulfillment for most cases and then they say everything else

was just a spiritual application it's like spiritual locusts coming from

hell and and all these strange things but

you know think about what it says in verse 34

verily i say to you this generation shall not pass to all these things we've

fulfilled what the preterist will do is he'll then say oh see

that's why it had to happen in 70 ad because these people weren't going to die

before it happens but i believe what the text is trying to say is it's

saying that the generation that starts verse eight

is the same generation that has to endure to the end

okay so it's it's telling us this is not a

um a historical thing it's not something that's just

symbolic symbolistic of like a thousand year period of time

because some people will teach oh no no this is just the book of revelation

is just like the first thousand years after uh the 70 ad or something and

it's just allegory no no no it's a literal event

it's a real event for a specific generation for a specific timeline

and it's going to happen now of course that's what we call ourselves

pre millennial is that we don't believe that this stuff has happened and we

don't believe that the thousand years of crisis happened

people that call themselves post mill sounds cool

unless you understand what they believe and again post mill means that they

believe that the that uses crisis already ruled for a thousand years

and so then so then you're like an even more hot water because you're like

what how the heck did that happen and it's like when did that happen

you know was that like the dark ages or like

was that the mongolian empire was that the turkish

you know empire taking over the Byzantine empire like when is this

exact thousand years or whatever so then you get even

weirder camps then you get a camp that's just like all

history's fake it's like stay away from these people

okay please have nothing to do with these people

i don't want you in my church okay if you just think all of history is

fake just leave okay i don't even want it

these people are brain dead retards and i don't i don't want nothing to do with

them it's usually a flat earth type mentality okay

then then you kind of have like another group of the post mill

that would say it was all an allegory and so then that then they kind of like

say but i don't really know where we're at so there's kind of like i don't

know and then you have another group that's just like oh i do know we're

in satans little season okay who's heard of this

the satans little season they'll say like oh well

christ came for the first thousand years and then

now in satans little season now satans little season will even go back to the

group that i said don't come to my church

because they'll say oh well there was this thousand years of peace and all the

stuff but it wasn't recorded in history and then satan

created this fake history that we all think really

happened because he's trying to deceive us all and we're all now in

satans little it's you're crazy okay these people are

crazy and weird and i want nothing to do with them

all right all the post mill stuff is just weird

okay and we could spend time debunking it but i'm just kind of giving you the

quick views in the in the time that we're

also you know just talking about pre-tribulation

okay the pre-tribulation rapture though is just the belief that

before this seven-year period of these seven seals being

unleashed that somehow jesus will rapture us

but but here's the problem the rapture is described clearly

here in verse 29 through 31 and it was after the tribulation and it's in the

middle of these seals being opened so then how do you get to

this pre-trib rapture that this isn't there

there's only one rapture that we really have in scripture that's consistent

with each other and it's always placed at the sixth seal

here right where we have it in matthew 24 after the tribulation

and of course if we spend the time in revelation seven and eight we see

those people in heaven so it's just like it's really clear it's really consistent

verse 21 talks about this great tribulation i i heard somebody that was post-trib

say nowhere in the bible to say great tribulation and then i'm like well

i think it was mat first or something he said something stupid about this

and he's like some people call this period of time great tribulation but the bible

didn't really say that and i'm like well it actually kind of does say exactly that

right here okay it says there's a great tribulation period okay so

be careful there's a lot of weird views out there and and i'm not saying that

you have to agree with me a hundred percent on end times eschatology to come to our church or

be part of our church but obviously if you're retarded you could leave okay and not because

of a real thing all right a spiritual retardation okay go to revelation chapter 12 if you would

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revelation chapter number 12 life's too short i don't want to deal with that kind of nonsense

you know a man that is an heretic after the first second i'm an issue reject you know and just

reality denial is not fun it's not cool i'm not into it and those people just spend all their time

watching youtube videos and you know i'm not a popular on youtube anyways all right so

revelation chapter 12 look at verse number six the bible says and the woman fled in the

Revelation 12 · chapter mention

wilderness where she had the place prepared of god they should feed her there a thousand

two hundred and three square days so i want to spend a quick second explaining the bible

gives us an actual timeline so we're not we're not just guessing at numbers here we believe in

seven year period of time because there's what's called daniel's 70th week and week is understood

in the book of daniels being a seven-year period so that's where we kind of get the idea but

then the bible confirms it with other dates and times in revelation chapter 12 verse number six

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it clearly spells out this period of time of a thousand two hundred and three score days now this

is not exactly three and a half years it's slightly less but it's a basically three and a half years

okay so what is this time period that's being described well it talks about the woman the

woman here is an allegory of course for mankind so this is what we know as again the first four

seals the woman mankind is going to be tormented and persecuted of satan for this 1260 years but

what does the bible say that god is going to you know basically in a special way protect them he's

prepared a place for them they're going to feed in the wilderness somehow they're going to flee

into the wilderness they're going to basically survive you know by natural resources or whatever

that kind of makes sense now again i can't interpret this perfectly because i don't understand the

future but it kind of makes sense that if we lived in a technocratic system a no-cash system

and there's just world wars you know killing all of our supply chains and stuff that for a period

of time maybe mankind has to live off the land a little bit in order to survive but according to

the bible god will allow that to happen and god is preparing a place for mankind to survive

the devil just wants mankind to die okay but man will not die through his efforts of full slaughter

so the devil fails this is this is the whole point the devil wants to kill the woman and the

devil fails he has a 1260 days to accomplish his goal he fails now the bible brings up another

timeline here look at verse 13 and when the dragon saw that he had cast under the earth he

persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child and to the woman were given two wings of

a great eagle that she might fly into the wilderness into her place where she is nourished for a time

and times and half a time from the face of the serpent so we have another just kind of loose

allegory of a time times plural and half a time so this is where we think of most likely the

bible is interpreting us three and a half years a time being a year so you have a time that's

one times meaning two and a half a time three and a half years and they're being delivered from the

face of the serpent so not seeing it head on okay not directly well it says that it says in verse

15 in the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman that he might cause her

to be carried away of the flood and the earth helped the woman and the earth opened her

mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of her mouth and the dragon was roth with

the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed which keep the commandments of god and

have the testimony of jesus christ so i was using a lot of allegory here so i don't know that we could

be dogmatic about anything but at the same time i don't feel like it's all allegory because you

know and then again this is just my personal interpretation you can believe whatever you

want all right i personally believe that when the bible says a flood here that it's literal

some people would interpret this as being an actual army and i think that's possible i'm not going

to say i'm dogmatic i'm just saying this is how i lean this is my personal leaning in the text

and why i say it's not an allegory is because then if it is an allegory then you have to come

up with an allegory for the earth because it says that the earth opened her mouth and swallowed

them up so what is the earth and your allegory i'm just going to go back to me and say the

earth is the earth again so i think that the flood the flood and i think the earth is the earth

now why do i personally think this well i personally believe this because god makes a big

deal in genesis chapter number six through eight that he's never going to flood the earth again

and destroy all of mankind again with a flood and puts a rainbow in the sky as a promise for

doing that and then of course the most satanic people in the world what do they love to do

they love to rub that rainbow and god's nose and just try to like make a big deal out of

mock god with their little rainbow and then of course you know what the devil loves to do what

does the devil always try to do he always tries to prove god wrong like hey he's trying to kill

jesus with herod you know he's trying to kill baby jesus because he wants to prove god wrong

he's trying to get job to curse god and prove god wrong like he's always trying to actually

beat god or something that god said he wants to prove wrong so what would the devil love to do

i think the devil would love to do is just flood the entire world and kill everybody

and then prove god wrong that he said he was never going to flood the earth again and look

this is not a wild idea that i have you could go online right now and find all kinds of scientists

and environmentalists and all these people worried that there could be a global flood you know

they're talking about the polar caps melting and they're talking about sea levels rising and just

all this different junk that's being alluded to and it wouldn't surprise me if the devil attempted

to kill mankind with the flood again because here's the thing none of us are building an ark

and none of us are ever going to build an ark because god's never going to tell you to

build an ark if you think god told you to build an ark you can leave as well all right go start

building okay and the reason why you don't need to build an ark is because god's never going to

allow the earth to ever be flooded again and he could allow the earth to open her mouth

and to swallow in that flood so even if the devil convinced his minions to nuke the

polar ice caps or whatever and try to raise the sea levels well it wouldn't work okay

i don't think that it's saying that it wouldn't happen it could happen and think about it wouldn't

that make sense logically if the devil tried through world war three to kill all mankind

fails so then what's the backup plan flood the entire world fails so then what's the third

backup plan well i just kill christians then that's kind of what it is now some people say

no i think the flood was that three and a half year period of time with the armies going out

trying to kill them and it's all allegory well you can believe that and i'm not even saying you're

wrong but then you'd have to explain to me what the earth was and why it was opening and you know i

kind of like my view because it also helps explain why genesis six through eight is such a big deal

and why god gives that token and why the enemies are always using that to rub it in god's face

and what all this means this is not my personal opinions okay just trying to give you an idea

but what we are getting is a timeline we're getting a 1260 days time times and half a time

and then what happens then christians are targeted this is not saying hey you're raptured out of here

and the devil can't get you and there's no problem and no one's gonna ever harm christians

like it's saying the exact opposite is actually saying there's a lead up and then there's a

targeting which fits perfectly with what matthew said matthew said hey here's the great

tribulation period and of course that's what's being described chapter 13 is what the antichrist

being revealed it said that the fate we're hidden from the face of the serpent but now we're not

going to be hidden from the face of the serpent now it's going to be seen we're going to be facing

off with the face of the serpent because the antichrist is going to come into power he's going to

inhabit be inhabited by the devil and it's going to be full opposition of the antichrist

full-on in chapter number 13 and it says that he's going to make war with the saints

it says right here in verse 17 war with the remnant of receipt but it says in chapter number 13

i believe it says he's going to make war with the saints uh let's let's read a few verses here

says in verse seven and it was given unto him to make war with the saints and overcome them

and power was given him over all kenchards and tongues and nations and all that dwell upon

the earth shall worship him whose names were not written in the book of the life of the lamb slain

from the foundation of the world if any man have an ear let him hear he that leadeth into

captivity shall go into captivity he that killed the sword must be killed with the sword here's the

patience and faith of the saints so again we're not going to read the whole book of revelation

but what is the bible saying it's saying that this antichrist comes into power declares

himself god and how long does he have to rule verse five and power was given unto him to continue

40 and two months notice to continue what continue from what from what he was doing previously the

first 1260 days he was trying to kill mankind fails i personally believe there's a flood attempt

fails then we have the last 42 months where he's going to be successful only against christians

but he won't be ultimately successful he's having initial success right the bible is saying he's making

war with saints and he's he's going to overcome the meanings he's going to kill a lot of christians

okay but because god is not willing that every christian should be slaughtered this way

that's why we have the rapture that's why we have jesus christ coming back in the clouds

and those that have endured under the end are going to be saved from physical death

and they'll be caught up together with christ in the clouds but notice the timelines we have 1260

days and we have 42 months these are approximately not exactly three and a half years now in the

book of daniel we also have other numbers i'm going to go there just for a quick second go to

daniel chapter 12 go to daniel chapter number 12 so they're like oh you guys think

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that there's a rapture in the middle yeah because it's giving us timelines of middle events

it's giving us 1260 days something happens at that point it's giving us 42 months to continue

something's happening in those periods of time now in the book of daniel chapter number 12 verse 12

it also gives us a timeline of events now it's it's pretty explicit in the book of daniel

um and this is kind of the end cap of a lot of things that he's brought up but look at verse 12

bless it as he that waited then come into the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days

so this is this is a little bit different timeline uh actually you know i i think i got ahead of

myself i want to do verse 11 first and then we'll get there and from that and from the time

that the daily sacrifice should be taken away and the abomination that make a desolate set

up there should be one should be a thousand two hundred and ninety days so i know i'm explaining

a lot quickly but i think what the bible clearly teaches is that there will be a third temple

and at this third temple there will begin animal sacrifices okay so and this is this is not even

like jonathan shelly's idea this is being talked about all the time i did a debate on this where

jews are saying they're trying to do this they're trying to get red heifer cattle raised in texas of

all places put into israel so they can start slaughtering these animals every day they want to have

a temple where they're slaughtering animals every day because here's the thing what did jews believe

they don't believe that jesus was their messiah they reject him so then they need to keep

following the quote old testament sacrifices so continuing the old testament sacrifices would

be a denial rejection of jesus christ now why were those originally taken away because in 70 ad

the romans came and stopped that of course because they rejected jesus christ and god

was mad at them and punished them and then scattered them in all nations so bringing it back

has nothing to do with jesus as everything to do with that anti christ spirit that was there at

70 ad and it's just a rehashing of what was already going on those the sacrifices have been

done away there's nothing to do with jesus anymore it's blasphemy to offer animal sacrifices

to god still it's a rejection of jesus but they're going to do this for

1260 days then you're going to have the abomination of desolation which is the anti christ going

into the temple and saying oh now you need to stop them because i have arrived the first

coming of jesus christ now again if that was true it's logical it doesn't mean it's right it's just

logical that if jesus wasn't really the messiah and this was the christ coming that you would stop

the animal sacrifices that's why they're stopping the animal sacrifices because in their mind this

is the christ which anti christ means in place of christ so they're saying this isn't jesus is

not the real one this is the real one and he's coming in and he's the anti christ and he's going

to declare himself god well of course if he's god then you stop doing the animal sacrifices

you have him and of course he has his own fake death burial and resurrection because the bible

says he'll receive a deadly wound in the eye and then he's going to come back to life a few days

later and kind of a mount gospel but here's the problem he's not dying in the cross

here's the problem he's not fulfilling scripture he's not born in bethlehem

he's not going to fulfill all the biblical roles it's not going to be matching what the scripture

teaches and additionally jesus already came we already just we just facts jesus already came

we have christianity we have the new testament all right he's going to be the man of perdition

but he's going to try and emulate some of these elements this mock little resurrection claim himself

god to clear everybody worship him at this very time the bible is saying here in verse 11

that when the daily sacrifice should be taken away because why because the antichrist is in

there saying he's god so he's taking it away from that period to the end is 1290 days so we have 1260

up to it 1290 after it and this is going to give us our essentially seven year period of time

so why 1335 days in verse 12 then i don't really know how preachers interpret that verse

okay grok would tell us that this is some event starting at the abomination desolation to the

end and it's an extra 45 days attached to the end but the problem is that doesn't really make any sense

and it doesn't really add anything what i believe the bible clearly teaches is that that's 1001335

days is at the beginning so it's the beginning of that seven year period which is a difference of

75 days from the 1260 to the 1335 so why what's this 75 day period that will be the great

tribulation that starting with this abomination of desolation now confirmation of this concept or idea

is in the fact that there's a lot of biblical analogies where we see rapture type events and

they all kind of match like a 53 or 50 it's like a 53 and a half percent period of time

which is exactly what the 75 day period would be as well so i think you could even prove

that there's a lot of examples and reasons why that period of time matches biblically

you know and i'm not going to go on a long uh i'm not we're not going to do that today

we could do that in another sermon but there's a lot of examples of why that fits and why there's

even examples of this but to say that we're just making up stuff i mean we literally have a

verse that says 1335 days and it's like hey we think that's when the rapture is

no nothing to point to it's just believe me because god's not a wife beater amen

well no one's no one said that god was a wife beater did i ever say that god is going to beat you

no the bible is teaching that the devil's the one attacking us isn't it it's the serpent that's

coming after us it's not some you know it's not god doing it so let's go to act chapter 14

let's go to act chapter 14 i want to show you one more verse before i move on the first point

it's the most important point because the first verse is saying hey or the first point that he's

making is the tribulation is the wrath of god according to the bible these are different they're

not the same timeline they're not the same events act chapter 14 look at verse number 22 this is what

the apostle paul said he said confirming the souls of the disciples and exhorting them to

continue in the faith and that we must through much tribulation enter the kingdom of god so

according to the bible we have a verse here that's clearly articulating that there's much

tribulation that we have to enter into okay if we have to go through much tribulation then it

doesn't make sense to try and say hey god would never appoint us to a tribulation and we don't

have to go through any i want to go to first the sonians chapter number five now go to first

let's jump to five so point one of the pre-trib rapture for them is tribulation is not the

wrath of god but then the bible clearly says hey we got to go through tribulation

and that's what makes sense historically historically christians are always going through

tribulation we're always being persecuted yay and all that will live godly in christ jesus

shall suffer persecution okay now second point of his pre-tribulation pre-tribulation rapture

is that the church is not appointed to wrath this is why it doesn't really matter at this

point because we've already proved that wrath and tribulation aren't the same thing

so you know what we can say yeah we believe that we're pre-wrath but of course people will say hey

this is approved for the pre-trib rapture it doesn't really prove the pre-trib rapture but

first the sonians chapter number five like verse nine for god had not appointed us to wrath

but to obtain salvation by lord jesus christ amen i do not believe that god will pour out a wrath

on anybody that's saved you know whether that be hell or whether that be hell on earth god is

not going to appoint us to such a thing and so that's why we are raptured that's why we're delivered

that's why we're saved um in first lesson is chapter four which is preceding this is the famous

rapture passage of the bible okay first lesson in chapter number four i want to start in verse number

13 but i would not have you to be ignorant brethren considering them which are asleep that you

saw or not even as others which have no hope for if we believe that jesus died and rose again

even so them also which sleep in jesus will god bring with them for this we say undue by the word of

the lord that we which are alive and remain under the coming of the lord shall not prevent them which

are asleep for the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the arch

angel and with the trump of god and the dead and cry shall rise first then we which are alive

and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air

and so shall we ever be with the lord where for comfort one another with these words now according

to the bible of course this is supposed to be comforting words and yet you know they will say

well how is telling me that i'm gonna have to go through the tribulation comforting it's not

but here's the thing the context is not saying all right guys you're gonna go through tribulations

to be comforted the comfort is that those that have died are still gonna come to the rapture

that they're gonna still be resurrected that they're not gonna miss out on the resurrection

and that people that have died you're gonna still get to see and glory that's what's the comfort the

comfort is hey i know that so-and-so died but you'll see them again in the resurrection that's

the comfort the comfort is the context is not hey you're gonna go through this difficult

tribulation be comforted by that of course no one is being comforted by that idea no one's

excited about getting their head chopped off no one's excited about famine no one's excited about

be hunting down no one's excited about being betrayed but you know what we're all comforted and notice

again comforted what is why would you be comforted because you're not experiencing comfort you know

if you're if you're being comforted you're not currently doing good because you don't need to

be comforted if you're doing great like imagine someone's like i'm having the best day of my life

would you like me to comfort you you know hey i'm i'm on cloud nine nothing bad's happening

should i comfort you you're being comforted because of something negative what's the negative

someone's died you've lost someone that you care about you lost someone that you love

and so you're being comforted with the fact that hey you'll be rejoined to them

that's the whole point of comfort and if you're in comfort in the bible is always

comforted with tribulation itself you're being comforted of tribulation

so to then say that oh god is not going to comfort you about tribulation is missing the whole

point of the new testament god is constantly comforting us in tribulation tribulation of

anything you know the death of a loved one or suffering or pain or woe or persecution for

the cause of christ and in fact this specific uh you know book of the bible is all about

tribulation you know it brings up tribulation repeatedly in this particular epistle and

it's warning about tribulation that's going to happen so it would make no sense if this whole

passage is telling us you're not going to go through tribulation i mean look look at a couple

verses look at chapter three verse seven therefore brethren we were comforted over you

in all our affliction and distress by your faith

hey i was comforted you know about y'all's affliction and again it's just silly to sit here and then

say like oh this is teaching that you'll never have any tribulation god would never put us through

tribulation no god won't put us through wrath i get it but tribulation is expected tribulation

is guaranteed if you're gonna live godly and so it's kind of silly to try and make that

particular point um he's going to deliver us from the wrath of come that's what they say in verse

10 look at chapter one verse 10 and to wait for his son from heaven whom he raised from the dead

even jesus which delivered us from the wrath to come okay but wait a minute that doesn't say

tribulation and we've already distinguished those two words so then we don't get them conflated

most of the teaching on the preacher rapture it's all about just conflating tribulation to

wrath once you separate these two they have nothing that they can even twist it's just all

about a conflation of these terms okay go over to luke 21 go to luke 21 here's another thing that he

would constantly say and this is compelling to me when i was younger and didn't know the bible very

well is they would just say well god usually delivers people before he judges so you know that's

why he's not going to put us through the seven years and he would say you know look at examples

of noah and look at examples of lot and the bible brings these examples of and how he delivered

these particular people but but i want to read this and then think about it for a second look at

luke 21 verse 36 watch ye therefore and pray always that you may be kind of worthy to escape all these

Luke 21:36

things that should come to pass and to stand before the son of man now you know this this

only can really lend itself to a works-based salvation because think about it what is the

context the context is what we have been talking about the end times and and all these you know

evil things that are going to happen um he's saying hey you should be counted worthy to escape

all these things that shall come to pass well wait a minute who in here is worthy

you know in a salvific perspective no one where none of us are worthy so we're all

saved by grace and if we're all saved by grace then wouldn't and if all the saved are going to be

raptured then why am i praying to escape i wouldn't need to pray to escape if it's if every saved

person is going to automatically escape so here's the thing the context couldn't be clear that not

all saved will escape right i mean if you're if i'm praying i'm saying hey ask god and hope god

that's going to count you worthy to the escape well then you have to then teach another heresy

which would be works-based salvation because they would say like oh well you know all the saved

are going to be ones that escape and see you're praying to be worthy because they think you

had to be doing enough works to have been saved to then be worthy to escape because all the

savering escape but we understand that not all the saved are going to escape but see we're not

talking about going to heaven or hell we're talking about escaping the the afflictions of dying

during this tribulation period okay but you know this this is what i like about this because i think

talking about this and bringing this up is not necessarily that much fun because it's like i

don't want to go through evil i don't want to go through difficulty i don't like persecution

no one enjoys it but you know what the bible is kind of teaching that the best christians are

the ones that are going to escape it's not saying like the worst christians it's saying hey

that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that are going to come to pass

so to me the bible is almost indicating that the best christians are the ones that are the most

likely to end up being raptured so you know that should comfort the new ivy because hey

you're like i'm going through all this difficulty we're on the front lines or constantly persecuted

but then it's like god's trying to say well you know what if you're praying you're seeking

the lord and you're serving him you're the guys that are going to be worthy to be counted to

escape all these things whereas the person that's lawful lazy accomplishing nothing

chop them block you know and again doesn't that fit almost every other passage in the bible if

you're not abiding in the vine then he's just going to cast you as a branch and you'll be tossed

in the fire hey if it's salt is lost to savor it's you know basically going to be trodden

a foot of men and you know the bible talks about how the city is going to be trodden the

foot of the gentiles you know like if you really kind of think about all these passages

that we typically don't have an exact parallel for they can all apply to the end times because in

the end times you could just say hey all these christians that aren't worth their salt all

these christians that are hiding their light under a bushel all these christians that are not

abiding in the vine all these christians that are not really serving god hey they're doing

things despite the spirit of grace well there's going to be a fiery or there's going to be a

judgment and fiery indignation to the adversaries and so you know it could we could literally

see just tons of backslidden christians and worldly christians are there on the front lines of the

slaughterhouse because there's just no point in keeping them around now if we think about that

in context of the noah and the lot because that's why he's bringing this stuff up because he's

bringing up noah and lot as in the days of no and the days of lot is going to be these times

and he's pointing to this particular verse but but think about it was every single person

unsaved when noah got on the ark like is every single person just an unsaved person except for

noah and just like his few family members i don't personally believe that i don't think that makes

sense but maybe maybe no is the only one worthy to escape so you know in the same way that it

could be like hey this one's the only one worthy i mean think about this let's go to lot i think

it's reasonable to think that maybe even his wife was saved but sees thing she turned back and wasn't

really worthy to escape and she turns into a pillar of salt that's a meaningless pillar of salt and

then jesus even brings it up remember lots wife you know why why why remind christians about lots

wife let's just say lots wife was not saved well i don't need to even warn you about that because

she was unsaved of course she was going to turn back i think the point is about the you know

queer loving freak christians out there that are going to turn back and they're just like oh these

poor little sodomites whatever and it's like turning us all you know worthless i don't even

want to see you anymore just you know whatever but at the end of the day like the i don't think the

bible through the examples of no and lot could not be interpreted through our lens of scripture

totally fits totally makes sense and yeah they were delivered from the wrath of god not

tribulation lot you know had to go through some persecution didn't he i mean you got guys

beating on his door and you got guys like grabbing them or whatever or trying to get you know

and then he's just pulled out before the fire and brimstone come even even uh noah is obviously

going through some kind of evil because the whole world's just awful i mean the whole world is

just terrible at that time so of course he's a preacher of righteousness and a very sinful

world and i think we're going to see that exact example in the end times we're going to have

few preachers of righteousness and the rest of the world is going to be a wicked hell hole

just super evil everywhere but that does not mean that we can't be delivered and doesn't mean

that we can't be the ones that even get raptured you know praise god i think that there's a

there's a there's a recompense to those who serve god and look i'm not saying all of us i'm not

saying that i wouldn't be the first beheaded because it's possible okay but i am saying that

according to the bible we could pray that we would be counted worthy to escape all those things and

this is what this is what i really like about this maybe this is you know maybe you're scared

maybe you're a lady i want you to circle a word okay in verse 36 to escape all that's nice

he did he said all he didn't say some he said all wouldn't it be nice to think hey i'm not going to

go through the famine i'm not going to go through the war i'm not going to go through any of those

things i'm not even getting betrayed i'm going to escape all of those things according to the bible

some people could be counted worthy to escape all these things so you know what hey don't don't

think that there's no reward to serving god don't think that being on the right track

doesn't have its benefits because i believe that some people are going to escape all of these things

and it's in there they're afraid of a boogie man they're afraid of nothing you know what we ought

to fear god and not man hey there there are some people that lived in egypt that escaped all the

plagues right i mean none of the plagues touched them they're living in goshen they're still

getting all the blessings of god while the whole world's being plagued and tormented and

tortured at the same time it's like hey believe in god believe that god can put you where he

needs to put you and that god can provide for you and that you don't even have to worry about

and in fact i don't i don't even think that god uh requires us to come up with some tribulation

strategy you know i i listened to some sermons it was like i think it was like my manly

parry or something and he was like he was like coming up with those like tribulation strategy

of of storing all this food and like all of these escape plans and like all like i don't

think you need that just like i don't think that i need my toddlers or five-year-old to

figure out how they're going to pay the bills this week or how dinner is going to be put

on the table like mom and dad got it you know and at the end of the day i think that dad's

got it in the sense that like our heavenly father is got it for us he's the one that's

prepared the place i mean think about the disciples and jesus they didn't even just

they didn't do anything for the Passover they just showed up and then jesus is like hey

go grab a donkey and then that's where we're gonna have dinner

and everything was already prepared for them someone had literally prepared the entire meal

the furnishings the meal everything's just ready to go they did nothing they just showed up

and it's just like here's a meal for you yeah but who is it for the disciples not for the

backslidden christians not for the worldly christians not for the ones doing their own

thing the disciples they had a feast prepared for them that they did nothing they're just

serving god get the last supper those who are doing their own thing they got to prepare their own

their own way just some just some thoughts they're gonna matthew 24 again go to matthew 24

he's gonna you know in his little video he's bringing up no and lot and and kind of pointing

to some of these things being counted worthy to escape i don't think the counted worthy means

you're saved it's that you're saved and serving god but for the work he's the work salvationist

they then turn this into like another work salvation lords of salvation which of course jimmy evans

teaches lords of salvation so i don't think he's saved but matthew 24 look at verse 37

we'll read a little bit more of this passage it says but as the days of noah were social also

the coming of the son of man be for as in the days that were before the flood they

were eating and drinking marrying giving and marriage until the day that noah or no he entered

into the ark and they knew not until the flood came and took them all away so shall also the

coming of the son of man be now obviously the world is a vast place and people are going

through different experiences i think from an american perspective this could be very literal

that in america even in that first four seals that we as americans are experiencing very little

ramification and that most of that experience is happening in europe okay now again i could be

wrong timelines could be off i don't know my personal opinion is that the end times is

going to be a war on islam now here's the thing there's some islam here but there's not a lot

and if we went to full war it could be over pretty quick and most of us may not experience

that much but europe is a different story and europe has a much more entrenched islamic population

and they're disarmed as a population and they've rejected god for a long period of time and i think

personal opinion god could be judging europe for their rejection of god by bringing them islam

in that we see a third or fourth of the world dying it's because europe is just awful europe

is and again you know from a soul winning perspective think about this like most of us

aren't like real jazz to go to europe to go soul winning anyways because of how unreceptive

and how expensive and hot and liberal and weird it is and it illegal that for the most part

there's not even a lot of saints over there anyways so that for most most people during that

bearded time most christians most of the zealous christians they're just not there and then the

handful that are there they just kind of probably either escape or leave or whatever so it's pretty

realistic to think that for most christians for the first half you know three and a half years

there's not really necessarily a direct confrontation to us we're still doing our thing you know

africa's still going to be africa and the caribbean's probably still being the caribbean

and we can go do soul winning and do whatever and then the whole world is just struggling with

that so i don't want you to think that like it couldn't be exactly like saying people are eating

people in our churches are getting married i mean hey if we saw these things happening i think

we could see a lot of marriages this is my personal opinion i mean these these single guys might be like

well hey it's now or never you know what i mean like i know i was i know i was wanting like you

know this like celebrity or whatever you know whatever they were wanting and they're just like

fine you know i'll actually go with someone on my level you know because because they're

kind of like a five looking for an 11 you know and it's like fine i'll take a six you know it's

just like bro she's still better than you but you know whatever i mean i'm just being honest with you

i could see some people and again young ladies during this time i could see them wanting a

husband and wanting someone to provide and take care of them during this time so i could i could

see just an explosion of marriages at this time and even in america just random people just getting

married and whatever just living their life getting married young people getting married buying

drinking doing all these things i mean babel on according to the bible is just having a heyday

all the way to the end i mean just to the very end i mean ships over the whole world are coming

to wherever babel on is and they're just having all kinds of stuff and the luxuries are not

going to cease although there'll be famines and parts of the world and some people are struggling

i think for some they're going to be enjoying still and still having luxuries and whatever

so i don't see how this is necessarily wrong and it's just saying it wasn't until the flood came

and then a judgment i think again probably if it were to happen anytime soon america's probably

babel on and for the unsaved american he will have a good time all the way up until the battle

of armageddon like right around that time period when the ten kings they all sin their arrows

and and babel on just basically nuked off the planet and it's just a sudden destruction

and they're just pretty much wiped out but for those that are saved we would have been a rapture

or delivered you know three and a half years prior minus 75 days so that's just kind of just

i'm just throwing out some ideas out there giving you some kind of timeline well let's go to just

a few more passages and we'll finish look at verse 13 the bible says but he that shall endure under

the end the same shall be saved again work salvationist love this verse but what's the context the context

of the tribulation period and for and for christians going through this tribulation some will have to

endure at the end and they'll be saved this is what jimmy ebbon says repeatedly in the in the video

nowhere in the bible is it saying for christians to pray for endurance and i'm just like what what

how about endure hardness as a good soldier of jesus christ how about just be be steadfast

what do you think steadfast means it's talking about endurance it's talking about not being moved

okay endurance is a major aspect of the christian life it's crazy to think that we don't have to endure

and of course the bible is telling us to endure here so obviously we should pray for

that endurance we should pray that we would escape all these things we should continue

serving god and you know we shouldn't be always afraid of a bogeyman because in many cases is

never going to come we should just trust god though we went to i want to go to like

just revelation chapter one we'll just finish here's a couple other verses to think about

roman's 1212 rejoicing in hope patient and tribulation continuing instant in prayer the

bible constantly talks about tribulation how we're going to go through it but what should we

do we should be patient and tribulation right whatever difficult as you go through second

carinthians chapter one verses three through four talk about how god comforts us in all our

tribulation so again just it's nonsense to say that these things wouldn't happen

you know the bible talks about not a hair of your head being injured during these periods of

time there's so much script there's so many verses we could talk about but this is what

i think is funny go to revelation one and look at verse nine is this whole epistle is supposed

to tell me that i'm not going to go through tribulation right from a pre-trip perspective

like the whole epistles like explain to me how i'm not going to go through tribulation

and then it's like verse nine i john who also i'm your brother and companion companion

in tribulation i'm telling you that we're not going to be in tribulation like how am i a companion

with him if he's in tribulation and i'm not in tribulation or i'm not going to go through

tribulation like it's just silly he's like hey no i'm your companion in tribulation

and what's what's the point because the book of revelation is going to tell us about a lot of

tribulation christianity we're going through much tribulation we must through much tribulation

enter into the kingdom of god better revelation seven verse 14 this is the last one i'll look at

but it's just so funny let's just not confuse the terms tribulation and wrath different terms

different meanings first three and a half years tribulation 75 days great tribulation

the last 42 months wrath of god and again i'm minus the 75 days but sixth seal

is not the first seal okay i don't know if that's a hard point for you to remember all right

the sixth seal is of course we know as the rapture and we believe that's the 1335 days

that's that's why it's blessed to wait until that period being patient in that tribulation

enduring under the end being counted worthy to escape all these things and to be caught up with

the lord and praise god even if you die you're going to still be at that same event though we're all

going to be at that moment of time we're either coming with jesus christ or we're being caught up

together to meet jesus christ in the air and then we'll be with him forever more we'll always

be with jesus christ that's pretty cool like once we get there we'll never not be with jesus

ever again we'll always be with him and we'll never not be with him our fate will turn to sight

we'll have a resurrected new body we'll get to rule and reign with christ for a thousand years

it's crazy to think all this has happened okay anybody that thinks that is crazy all right

and and look i guess you could say like hey would it be cool to hit a button like the world's

going into chaos and you can just hit a button and go to heaven yeah it sounds kind of cool but you

know for a man what if i said hey you get to play in game seven of the world series or game seven

of the nba finals or hey it's the super bowl and you have two options you can either play and

it's going to be a tough game and you're going to get some hard hits but you can win or you

can just tap a button and just get the trophy it's like you lived your whole life up to this moment to

play the game it's like why wouldn't you this then play that game you kind of want to you kind of

want to be in and it's like hey you can play in the game and win and score the touchdown or we

can just hit the button and you'll get the trophy but these guys are going to score the

touchdowns and these guys are going to be the ones that you know like i know the preacher

raptor kind of sounds cool but at the same time it's also kind of like not cool because i think for

most of us you know especially that like athletics it's like we've lived our whole life up to this

moment we want to go through it we want to experience it we want to see it i think hey let's

you know if we ask women the other side it's like hey all right you're starting the labor pains

you can just hit a button and you're holding the baby all right i think someone would press

that button okay i'm not don't hear wrong but you know i think there's some woman that wouldn't

even want to press it they would say i kind of want to go through it and see what it was like

and you know have that that experience even though it wasn't necessarily the most enjoyable

experience okay and again i don't judge you if you're like but all right but at the end of the

day some of us want to actually go through it some of us actually want to see it and so you

know it's not just all cool or whatever that oh well the pre-trips way better not necessarily

and think about it this way what if you could say hey you're going to go through that experience

with no pain and you're going to escape all those things then you'd like i definitely want to press

it you know there's no guarantee but you know hey pray that you're kind of worthy and of course

at the end of the day what will happen verse 14 and i said to him sir thou knowest and he

said it to me these are the which came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes

and made them white in the blood lamp there's a group of people in heaven and it's like hey

where the heck did these people come from they came from great tribulation how could you then

say that the people in heaven that came from great tribulation god will never put you through

great tribulation he's saying this is where they came from but this is this again from a

pre-tripper second this is what they teach and i'm not going to i'm not going to spend more

time on this but you know there's tribulation saints it's like we all get saved and then

some people later get saved and they're the tribulation ones but they sound pretty cool

like you know i want to be like them again then they have to invent you know where how

do they get their rapture where's their timing they can't point to these so again the preacher

rapture is just wishful thinking but in a sense it's just not in the bible it doesn't make sense

and it's confusing and then you screw up a lot of other passages and why it's important to

believe it is because if it's going to happen we should at least prepare mentally and say hey i

want to be a good soul winner now and i want to be right with god now and i want to pray that i'm

counted worthy to escape i think those that are in pre-trib land and not going soul winning

are not going to be ones counted worthy to escape those things so and in some sense you know they

will get up there really quick by being slaughtered all right they thought it was going to be a

rapture and it was a slaughtering okay so let's let's go some prayer thank you heavenly

father so much for your word thank you so much for these examples i pray that we would not

be afraid or scared of what the future beholds but rather we would look through with eyes with faith

through the scripture that we would see that hey for some people where they're going to be counted

worthy to escape i pray that we would strive for being counted worthy that we would be embrace

the end times whether that happens in our life or not and that we would encourage the next

generation i pray that you would help us to live our lives to the fullest and to take full advantage

of the time that we have and that we would not be scared of the serpent but rather we would fear

only you and in jesus name we pray amen