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I Hold My Own Hand

Pursuing Jesus - Memorial Baptist Church

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  1. What's up, everybody? How's it going, pursuers?

  2. Oh, wait, hold on. You remember we had a conversation

  3. with someone this week, last week, recently,

  4. and they said that they weren't sure if that

  5. is the name of the group. They did. They did

  6. say that. Do you remember the name that they

  7. suggested? It was something culturally insensitive.

  8. I can't remember. No, it was not. They think

  9. they like dudes and dudettes. Dudes and dudettes.

  10. What's up, dudes and dudettes? I mean, I say

  11. dude all the time. It's a part of my cultural

  12. lingo. Yeah, that's true. Dudettes is not something

  13. I say very often. No, I have not said dudettes

  14. ever. Truthfully, I feel like dude for me has

  15. evolved to be like a gender neutral term. Yeah,

  16. I agree. I agree. But every now and then you

  17. run into somebody who is a lady who you refer

  18. to as, oh, dude, what's up? And they're like,

  19. I am not a dude. So when I was in college, I

  20. had a habit of longboarding around the campus,

  21. right? Oh, I did that in college too. Yeah? Yeah.

  22. All that to say, I was bumping up against curfew

  23. because Christian College, you had to be back

  24. at the dorm by a certain time or else you were

  25. a bad person. And I'm hauling timber trying to

  26. get back in time. And I've got an umbrella because

  27. it rains a lot in Cedarville. But it was Maddie's

  28. umbrella. It was like an outrageously girly umbrella.

  29. As it should be. As it should be, right? I think

  30. it was like pink, you know? And so some chick

  31. from the sidewalk shouts out, Nice umbrella,

  32. dude! And I was like, Hey, thanks, dude! And

  33. I kept on trucking, and I just hear from behind

  34. me, I'm not a dude! Wow, like really offended

  35. over calling her a dude. Of course, like, I think

  36. I meant that a little dude -ish, too. Yeah, you

  37. probably had a little oomph on the word dude,

  38. you know? Thanks, dude! Yeah, I don't know. I

  39. mean, I do like Pursuers. I think it's interesting.

  40. I don't think we're fully settled on what we're

  41. going to call our audience yet, but I'm just

  42. glad they're here with us. I am also just glad

  43. they're here with us. Also, I hear there's some

  44. new people to the podcast. I've been hearing

  45. some people on Sundays talk about how they've

  46. recently started to join us. No way! And I think

  47. that's amazing. I think that's amazing. But for

  48. everybody, just for some clarification, because

  49. even though this is Sean speaking right now,

  50. I might not sound like the normal Sean. I am

  51. recovering from Mission Serve that we had last

  52. week and also some sickness that involved with

  53. Mission Serve. And so if my voice is a little

  54. crazy, let me apologize in advance for the sound

  55. of my voice and then also whatever noises might

  56. come out. missed the editing floor. Yeah, I what

  57. I'm excited about what you've done here is it

  58. gives me opportunity to insert other sounds that

  59. you also don't make as man. Sean just like made

  60. that noise. Yeah, podcast, you know, you're just

  61. going to start putting random noises and they're

  62. going to be like, oh, Sean is disgusting. It's

  63. like the most massive belt you've ever heard

  64. in your life and like and we're not going to

  65. even mention it because it's not there for real,

  66. but yet it's going to sound like we're just rude

  67. people just going right by it. No, it'll sound

  68. like you're just... Oh, you'll make sure of that.

  69. That's true. That's true. Pursuing Jesus fam,

  70. what's actually happening is I've actually fed

  71. every clip of audio I have of Sean into an AI

  72. agent, and Sean's not actually in the room with

  73. us. I'm talking to a robot Sean who, based off

  74. of his personality and my programming... And

  75. this is the best the voice could get. This is

  76. the best the voice could get. get exactly i will

  77. say at least from my side of the room with headphones

  78. on you sound relatively normal so you know what's

  79. funny with you saying that okay because like

  80. i've have you used chat gpt's voice yeah i have

  81. on occasion like you can have almost human conversations

  82. with the chat. Like, you know, cause if you have

  83. conversations with Siri or like things like that,

  84. it's very, it's very robotic, you know, and you

  85. can't have a conversation, but you can have a

  86. conversation. Once again, you realize it's not

  87. totally human. It's still, it's getting there,

  88. but man, it gets closer all the time. So anyways,

  89. but he's saying that like there's a, there is

  90. absolutely an AI program out there that you could

  91. feed in information. Have a conversation with

  92. it and make it mimic a person based on the algorithms

  93. and the information you upload to it. And that's

  94. kind of a scary thing. Isn't that so impressive

  95. that the software actually knows about that and

  96. is actually doing it? Because that's what we're

  97. doing right now is I'm talking to you, a robot.

  98. For it to have that discussion. See, here's the

  99. problem, because you're a conspiracy theorist.

  100. Yep, I am. You sure? I know we've got some in

  101. the church as well. They're out there. They're

  102. everywhere. Yep, they are. We grow in number

  103. every day. They really have no idea right now.

  104. If I'm real, that's we're going to leave it at

  105. that. We're going to leave it at that. As the

  106. AI would say. Yes. And so you want to share what's

  107. going on with that? Where were you with the students?

  108. Yeah. So for those who don't know the summer

  109. schedule. that we have here at Memorial this

  110. year. And actually, this is like the third year

  111. in a row. It's been wild. But so we have two

  112. major organizations that we partner with with

  113. our student ministry. And one is Mission Serve.

  114. We just did that last week. It was an incredible

  115. week. Pause. And so Mission Serve. Ended up being,

  116. like I said, it was just amazing. And next week

  117. on Sunday, so Sunday morning, I am taking a smaller

  118. group of students and we're going to SLU 101.

  119. All right. And so 101 is the first leg of the

  120. Student Leadership University, hence SLU, a journey

  121. that we take with our students. And so Sunday

  122. we will leave. We will be back Thursday. I'll

  123. be back for a week. And then the next week, I

  124. will leave on a Monday morning and take students

  125. to SLU 201 in Washington, D .C. And so then those

  126. are the major trips. But then we still got our

  127. pre -teen campus center kids coming up. And so

  128. I still have three major trips coming up this

  129. summer, week -long trips. And these really are

  130. like trips, conferences. This is not a vacation

  131. by any means. No, and anybody who calls these

  132. vacations, I'm not going to call it names because,

  133. yeah, one of the very first phone calls I got

  134. when I got back from Mission Serve, and once

  135. again, and Mission Serve, the hardest one. We

  136. are on the mission. We are doing construction

  137. -based ministry. We're out in the sun. 24 hours

  138. a day. I mean, it is just, and then it's a lot

  139. of kids, so there's drama going on. Drama? It's

  140. teenagers, so of course. And so, yeah, one of

  141. the very first phone calls I got was like, hey,

  142. Sean, how was your vacation? And I'm like, I'm

  143. going to slap you, sir. You did give identifying

  144. information. Now, Sunday, when I head down to

  145. Orlando and I go to a student ministry conference,

  146. I will get to spend some time in SeaWorld. I

  147. will get to spend some time. You get to see Shamu?

  148. No, I don't think Shamu's there anymore. What?

  149. Yeah. What did they do with Shamu? There's orcas.

  150. What did they do with him? Also, there's been

  151. many, many, many Shamus. It's just different

  152. whales, different orcas with the same name. I

  153. know. Anyways, and then we'll also go to Universal

  154. Studios. And so there are some fun aspects to

  155. this trip. So it's a vacation? No. It all depends

  156. on the students who are going. I don't know how

  157. many students are listening to this podcast or

  158. parents of students, but there is... This one

  159. will not be a vacation. Let's just leave it at

  160. that. Kids, think about the power that you wield

  161. over your friendly neighborhood. Y 'all can figure

  162. out who's going on this trip and figure out which

  163. kid is the reason or kids are the reason that

  164. this one will not be a vacation. Well, this is

  165. a good information to have. We'll be praying

  166. for you as you go. This will air in just a couple

  167. days on Friday. And so as you listen, party people.

  168. Be praying for Sean and the students as we go

  169. to SLU. I will appreciate it very much. Well,

  170. dude, as we jump into the text here, I was kind

  171. of thinking a little text icebreaker thing. Okay.

  172. What is the best gift or the worst gift you've

  173. ever gotten, like for Christmas or for a birthday?

  174. One gift comes to mind with worst and best. Okay.

  175. So I don't remember how old I was. But the name

  176. of the band is going to let it realize how long

  177. ago this was. I never remember telling my parents

  178. I liked this band. I never remember mentioning.

  179. In fact, I remember vividly, and I don't remember

  180. many things vividly from that long ago. Okay.

  181. But I remember vividly looking at this neon yellow

  182. fanny pack. of New Kids on the Block. Oh, man.

  183. Yeah, and like I said, at this point in my life,

  184. I don't think I had ever heard one of their songs.

  185. Wow. But I think it was just like they were the

  186. band of that time. Right. And my parents probably

  187. just saw something and were like, oh, yeah, my

  188. son must know about this or something. I had

  189. no idea. And they might've just like bought it

  190. thinking it wasn't merch maybe. And just like

  191. cool phrase where graphic tees back then with

  192. words on, but, uh, but yeah, so I just, so I

  193. said, so that's like the immediate when it comes

  194. to my mind where I'm just like, why did my parents

  195. get me that? You know? Yeah. What's so funny

  196. is they probably got me amazed. I probably got

  197. like Ninja turtle stuff, Lego stuff. I don't

  198. remember any of that that year. The only thing

  199. that my brain remembers is the new kids on the

  200. block. Fanny bag. But in that human nature, though,

  201. they say that we are four times more likely to

  202. remember something negative than something positive.

  203. How disappointing in us. But it's true. It's

  204. completely true. Following the same vein as your

  205. story, this is not about a bad gift I received,

  206. but about me receiving it poorly. When I was

  207. young, I was like super duper into rescue heroes.

  208. Right? There's like figurines and they have like

  209. trucks, planes. It's like anybody who does like

  210. a job where you're helping people and they have

  211. action figures and stuff. All that to say, from

  212. the animated movie, there's a scene where they're

  213. on a volcano and the firefighter rescues people

  214. from the volcano because that's what firefighters

  215. do. You know, putting volcanologists out of a

  216. job across the globe. 100%. And it's this big,

  217. like massive volcano with the toys and the trucks

  218. and all that. I saw it on Toys R Us and begged

  219. my parents for it for Christmas. They got it

  220. for me. And what did I do with it, Sean? I opened

  221. it up and I played with the box. Yes, I played

  222. with a box because it had to have been huge because

  223. the box was massive. I could go in that thing

  224. and like like like the half opened rescue hero

  225. action figures are sitting on the floor of our

  226. living room and I'm like in this box playing

  227. with the packing peanuts and stuff like that,

  228. but like like I think that's just how kids. sometimes.

  229. I've heard of other people having that response.

  230. You are describing Judah. To this day, anytime

  231. we get a huge Amazon box or anything that comes

  232. to the house, he is going to play with that box.

  233. Now he's at the age where he will cut it and

  234. turn it into toys. I love that. He has always

  235. been a box kid. He's a box troll. Noted. I love

  236. that. I love that. Well, so the reason I ask

  237. you about gifts is because the text that really

  238. spoke out to me from this week's reading was

  239. the text from June 26th. So this is in another

  240. three -peat where you see it in three gospels.

  241. You get it in the Matthew account, the Mark account,

  242. and the Luke account. And this is where Jesus

  243. very famously says, let the little children come

  244. to me. Tried to read this with fresh eyes because

  245. it's a very famous account. It can be easy just

  246. to autopilot. and read, reread, move on. But

  247. a couple of things, really the main thing that

  248. stood out to me was the notion of receiving something

  249. like a child, or as it were, playing with the

  250. box. So where we're going today is Mark 10. 13

  251. through 16. I'm going to probably get a draw

  252. from several of the accounts here. Rare that

  253. we get a account in all three gospels, even more

  254. so in all four when you get John. But this was

  255. a really powerful passage for me. But so Mark

  256. 10, 13 through 16. And they were bringing children

  257. to him that he might touch them. And the disciples

  258. rebuked them. But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant

  259. and said to them, let the children come to me.

  260. Do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom

  261. of God. Truly I say to you, whoever does not

  262. receive the kingdom of God like a child shall

  263. not enter it. And then he took them in his arms

  264. and he blessed them, laying his hands on them.

  265. I mean, there's so much here. Like, for me, seeing

  266. the tenderness of Jesus towards children and

  267. all that stuff, and knowing that that reflects

  268. our Father's heart for us too, I could camp there

  269. for a while. And even the opposite side of that,

  270. the seriousness of his response to the disciples

  271. trying to keep the children from him. Right.

  272. Just to show that, man, it's incredible. It is.

  273. First things first, the Luke account says, bringing

  274. even infants to him that he might touch them

  275. like like the the i love that the narrative voice

  276. here reflects surprise like dude they were even

  277. bringing kids to him because you have to remember

  278. in jewish culture at the time that jesus was

  279. walking the earth we didn't they didn't see kids

  280. the way that they saw them today or the way that

  281. we see them today kids were like second class

  282. citizens. There's even a passage elsewhere in

  283. the Pauline epistles where Paul talks about a

  284. kid is essentially treated like a slave until

  285. he comes of age, and then he can inherit all

  286. his stuff. And so the fact that parents are beginning

  287. to bring their kids to Jesus really shows how

  288. much folks are trusting him as their Messiah.

  289. But the disciples dismiss this out of hand. Like,

  290. excuse me, the Messiah? God's anointed one has

  291. better things to do. Right. And you can really

  292. see that that is probably the attitude or something

  293. around those lines that is going through their

  294. mind right here. Well, so the disciples rebuke

  295. them. And so like, dude, that word rebuke is

  296. the same word that Jesus uses to talk to the

  297. demons. Jesus rebuked the demons that like, and

  298. when they're telling him to come out of them.

  299. So this is not like a, hey guys, like now's not

  300. a good time. This is like. Jesus got serious.

  301. So the disciples were serious is what I'm saying.

  302. Yeah. And so, but Jesus gets indignant, which...

  303. Oh yeah, but I see what you're saying there.

  304. Sorry, I missed that for a second. No, you're

  305. good. But yeah, the disciples there, I mean,

  306. like even the language that they're, the language

  307. and attitude that they were using towards the

  308. parents or the people bringing the children,

  309. it really shows how much they were missing really

  310. the heart of what Jesus wanted. Yes. Absolutely.

  311. And so Jesus gets indignant and he says, let

  312. the children come to me. Do not hinder them for

  313. to such belongs the kingdom of God. So I'm not

  314. a dad. I said that last week when I preached

  315. on Father's Day and felt a little weird engaging

  316. with that subject material anyways. But you're

  317. a dad, Sean. You have had the opportunity to

  318. at least partially parent three little humans.

  319. None of them are fully baked yet. No, no. I've

  320. got one that is – I've got an almost 16 -year

  321. -old. That's terrifying. So I have made it into

  322. this teenage aspect of parenting. Yes. Yeah.

  323. But you're a dad, and so like – When you read

  324. this text, let the little children come to me,

  325. for to such belongs the kingdom of God. And then

  326. 15, when Jesus ups the ante and says, truly I

  327. say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom

  328. of God like a child shall not enter it. How do

  329. you see childlikeness and faith in Jesus intertwine?

  330. Whenever I think of childlike fake, whenever

  331. I think of childlike faith, The thing that comes

  332. to me is I remember my children as toddlers and

  333. younger, right? It's a really fun age with kids.

  334. There's these frustrating times because maybe

  335. they're barely talking or they're speaking this

  336. version of English that only the mother can understand,

  337. not even the father, right? And so it's a really

  338. fun age, but at the same time, they are reliant

  339. on their parents for everything, right? You know,

  340. there's a time where like, you know, they...

  341. They can't change their own diapers. They can't

  342. feed themselves. They can't close themselves.

  343. They can't put themselves to bed. Literally nothing.

  344. My children relied on myself and my wife to do

  345. everything for them. Utterly dependent. Utterly

  346. dependent. And so when I think of childlike faith,

  347. it's this idea of realizing like... I am completely

  348. dependent on something else over myself. I can't

  349. do this. And so when I see Jesus here and he

  350. says, truly, I tell you, whoever does not receive

  351. the kingdom of God like a little child. So it's

  352. once again going to this thing that we've been

  353. talking about for weeks now, and that is there's

  354. nothing we can do to earn it. You know, he says

  355. you will not enter. And we won't enter if we

  356. think we can do something to deserve this. It's

  357. like, no, we are utterly dependent on our Father

  358. in heaven. And that's what I think childlike

  359. faith is very similar to. I'm completely with

  360. you. And I think that even in listening to the

  361. way that we've talked about this, with the utter

  362. dependence on God, or even as we're going through

  363. Galatians on Sunday mornings, the legalism of

  364. the hypocrites, the Judaizers as we'll come to

  365. see them in a couple of weeks. It's easy to go,

  366. okay, cool. No, I believe in Jesus. And then

  367. like kind of truck on. But I think that that

  368. mindset of I have to earn my own salvation is

  369. a tendency that all believers have to fight all

  370. the time. Absolutely. It's subtle, man. I love

  371. how the example of kids, and I think God designed

  372. our natural life cycles in this way to use a

  373. mundane, earthy thing to explain a spiritual

  374. truth. But it seems a lot to me like that complete

  375. and utter dependence is something that we have

  376. to cultivate within ourselves. Because as you

  377. grow up, right, you stop being a kid, you don't

  378. need that kind of help anymore. Like, dude, I

  379. got this. My sister has children, and I've gotten

  380. to watch several of them grow up. I was walking

  381. through a parking lot with my oldest nephew,

  382. and it's the rules. If we're walking through

  383. a parking lot, he was at the age that I still

  384. had to hold his hand. We make it in okay. We

  385. do whatever shopping we need to do. We come back

  386. out, and I'm holding the bag of groceries in

  387. one hand, and this kid's hand in the other, and

  388. he yanks his hand out of my hand, and he goes,

  389. I hold my own hand. Dude, bro, that's me. That's

  390. me. When I sit down to read God's word, I have

  391. to choose to open my heart to the Holy Spirit.

  392. And if I don't... I'm looking at God and saying,

  393. I hold my own hand. I'm smart enough and wise

  394. enough and discerning enough to get what you

  395. have for me today, which is ludicrous. But if

  396. I don't stop to think about what is my heart

  397. doing in those moments, I won't realize that

  398. I have taken the course that I've set and shifted

  399. it five degrees off, which seems small. at the

  400. beginning, but can be disastrous the longer you

  401. go. But I think that's why Jesus is using this

  402. opportunity to teach this lesson, because it

  403. is something that we tend to get away from, because

  404. I think in all cultures, as we grow older, we

  405. become more independent, and we're raised as,

  406. like, what can I do? I can do this on my own,

  407. especially in our American culture of I've pulled

  408. myself up from the bootstraps type of mentality

  409. that we have. We have to be reminded of when

  410. it comes to the kingdom of God. No, it is. We

  411. are children relying on our Father. Beautiful

  412. truth. And then I love to see Jesus' tenderness

  413. at the end. At the end of the Mark account, he

  414. took them in his arms, and he blessed them, laying

  415. his hands on them. And the wildness about this

  416. is Jesus didn't do all this just for the kids.

  417. Jesus did this for the disciples standing there

  418. and the parents standing there. There are many

  419. things that were very important in my life that

  420. happened when I was very little that I have very

  421. little recollection of. And so these kids being

  422. taken into Jesus' arms, literally the God of

  423. the universe, the arms that fashioned them, that

  424. knit them together in their mother's wombs, and

  425. he blessed them. That was for their benefit,

  426. but it was also for the benefit of the people

  427. that were standing there. And so Jesus even teaching,

  428. like walking out what he's talking about. I can't

  429. get away from it. Like approaching God like a

  430. child. And it even says young children in the

  431. Luke account too. Like, dude, like I'm an infant.

  432. And spiritually, I feel like that fits so well

  433. too. Like I've got no rights spiritually. Like

  434. I'm completely dependent on... others for help,

  435. both dependent on the Lord. And as I grow in

  436. my faith, I have to be dependent on the people

  437. who have gone before me and the men and the women

  438. who have followed Jesus longer and or deeper

  439. than I have to learn from them too. And also

  440. like a child, I'm probably super annoying. You

  441. know, like the way that I approach God is over

  442. and over and over and over again. And I wrestle

  443. with the same stuff day to day. And he's got

  444. to tell me, a million times don't touch the stove.

  445. But that's not how he responds to that kind of

  446. childlike spiritual behavior. He picks us up

  447. in his arms and he blesses us. You know, one

  448. of the things that I've learned, and I think

  449. this is something that comes from years of following

  450. Jesus, as I've become more spiritually mature,

  451. the closer I get to Jesus, the more I realize

  452. I need him. And I think it's this... I get more

  453. childlike. I realize more and more and more I

  454. am dependent on Jesus for everything. Because

  455. I think when you're young in your faith, when

  456. you're spiritually young, it doesn't matter what

  457. age you are, but when you're spiritually young...

  458. you have more of the tendencies of what can I

  459. do for Jesus and having this attitude of trying

  460. to prove yourself or show off or whatever it

  461. is, the terminology you want to use. But the

  462. closer, the more time I spend, the more genuine

  463. time I spend in God's word, the more genuine

  464. time I spend in worship, and the closer I get

  465. myself in a relationship with Jesus. the more

  466. I want to be around him, the more I want to continue

  467. to be in that spot, and also the more I realize,

  468. like, I can do nothing. You know, it's no longer

  469. is it like, oh, man, I just preached a great

  470. sermon. It's like, no, I know what it's like

  471. when I've gotten on stage, and it's been too

  472. much of Sean. And I know that it is absolutely

  473. Jesus speaking through me. And it's things like

  474. that, or even things that go well in ministry

  475. and things. It's like, okay, I've been on this

  476. journey long enough now. I am in complete dependence

  477. on Jesus for everything. You know what I hear

  478. you saying, though? What? It's not that you're

  479. becoming more childlike, Sean. It's that you're

  480. recognizing how childlike you've always been.

  481. Explain. Dude. It's the early spiritual mindset,

  482. doing things for Jesus, oversubstituting with

  483. our own resources rather than relying on the

  484. Lord, constantly striving forward and striving

  485. forward and striving forward. Those are all the

  486. behaviors of kids. And then I think maturity

  487. is recognizing that we have those things and

  488. not even eliminating them, but putting them in

  489. the right place. Which, dude, I'm still on the

  490. journey of. That's not something I'm ever going

  491. to arrive from, for sure. Well, yeah. I mean,

  492. even the Apostle Paul, when he talks about as

  493. we grow in maturity, we start with milk, but

  494. we end up, as we get deeper, we get to the meat

  495. and to the bread of life. And so, I mean, there's

  496. aspects of our faith that are childlike, but

  497. there's also a time when I become a man and the

  498. man has to stand up and we have to put away childish

  499. things, as the Apostle Paul says. Yeah. Real

  500. question is, is like, you know, you get to the

  501. meat and the bread, but what if like you've got

  502. that tick disease or you're gluten intolerant?

  503. Yep. Oh, man. Well, let's completely unforced

  504. and super duper smoothly pivot to your text for

  505. today, Sean. Yeah, sure. What am I talking about?

  506. That was a great transition there, man. May I

  507. tell you what? The more we do this, the more

  508. professional we don't become. I resent that remark.

  509. We do have good conversations. We do have good

  510. conversations, man. I will say that. So, yeah,

  511. this has been an interesting week. And there's

  512. been some, you know, I'll be honest, we kind

  513. of talked about this. There's been some very

  514. difficult passages in this week's reading. Yeah.

  515. You know? But there's one, the one that stood

  516. out to me, the one that I cannot get away from,

  517. the one that I have to talk about, is not one

  518. of the more, like I said, it's not one of the

  519. more difficult passages of the week as far as

  520. interpretation. But the lessons and realizing

  521. where we are in this parable, I think are important

  522. and it's something to reflect on. And that is

  523. the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector.

  524. It's one of those parables that I believe is

  525. Sunday School famous for sure. You know, if you've

  526. grown up in church, you've heard this. You definitely

  527. saw this on a felt board somewhere. It's been

  528. a sermon illustration. Have you ever actually

  529. seen a felt board, Benjamin? Yes, I have. You

  530. have. In Sunday school, being used. Not ironically.

  531. Not ironically. Okay, see, the last time I saw

  532. it was Sardis Presbyterian Church, long, many,

  533. many, many years ago. You were reformed? When

  534. I first started going to church, my first church

  535. experience, because I didn't grow up in church,

  536. but we were Christmas Easter family when I was

  537. young, and we went to Sardis Presbyterian Church

  538. in Charlotte. Okay. That's where we went, yeah.

  539. I forgot you were like a Charlotte kid for a

  540. hot minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Born in Charlotte,

  541. raised in Matthews until I was going into the

  542. seventh grade. Wow. And then that summer before

  543. my seventh grade year, we moved to Wilmington,

  544. and that's where I spent the rest of my life.

  545. So, yeah. So, yeah. So that was my church experiences.

  546. But I can remember the few times I went to Sunday

  547. school back then. I did get sprinkled, by the

  548. way. So did I. Yeah, yeah. I got sprinkled at

  549. the Presbyterian Church when I was a baby. Don't

  550. remember it. I was an infant, but I've seen pictures.

  551. Nice. But, yeah. But I remember the felt boards.

  552. But this is definitely one of those stories that

  553. even someone like me who barely went to church

  554. growing up, even I probably might have heard

  555. this one a time or two. But let me just read

  556. the parable. It comes from Luke 18. It starts

  557. in verse 9, and it's just an interesting parable.

  558. So let me read it. He also told this parable

  559. to some who trusted in themselves that they were

  560. righteous and looked down on everyone else. Two

  561. men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee,

  562. and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee was

  563. standing and praying like this about himself.

  564. God, I thank you that I am not like other people,

  565. greedy, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like

  566. this tax collector. I fast twice a week. I give

  567. a tenth of everything I get. But the tax collector,

  568. standing far off, would not even raise his eyes

  569. to heaven. but kept striking his chest and saying,

  570. God have mercy on me, a sinner. I tell you, this

  571. one went down to his house justified rather than

  572. the other, because everyone who exalts himself

  573. will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself

  574. will be exalted. When you look at the comparison

  575. between these two guys, And even how Jesus, I

  576. think how Jesus sets up this parable, because

  577. this, once again, this is a parable. This is

  578. a story, a spiritual story he's making up for

  579. a reason. And he says he also told this parable

  580. to some who trusted in themselves that they were

  581. righteous and looked down on everyone else. So

  582. the crowd he is speaking to. looks like the first

  583. person, looks like the Pharisee. Okay, yep. At

  584. least internally. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't

  585. say that they are Pharisees, but he's showing

  586. that this is their attitude that they have, and

  587. he's probably using this because if these...

  588. So just imagine, I don't think that they were

  589. Pharisees. I think that would have been in the

  590. description because Jesus isn't afraid to call

  591. out the Pharisees. And so it says that he...

  592. To some who trusted in themselves that they were

  593. righteous. So imagine if these were the common

  594. Jewish people, but this is the attitude they

  595. had. And because they respected the Pharisees,

  596. they would have learned that from them. Yes.

  597. And so, but then they're being... they're being

  598. compared to by these Pharisees and this attitude.

  599. And so I imagine by them looking and seeing this

  600. attitude that Jesus is portraying of what they

  601. really are acting like. You know, it's one of

  602. the things I think, you know, you hear like in

  603. the SBC, people say, oh, Sean, you really stepped

  604. on my toes today. You know, like it's like one,

  605. I think they're getting one of those moments

  606. where they're getting hit right in the heart

  607. and they're realizing exactly what Jesus is trying

  608. to do. But the difference between these two positions,

  609. I mean, even physically how Jesus described him,

  610. one is standing at the altar and the other...

  611. is bowing and can't even bring himself to come

  612. to the front. Yeah. I mean, even the physical

  613. representation of the two people, not even looking

  614. at the things that they do, but just how the

  615. posture, the body posture is, you can see the

  616. attitude that Jesus is trying to reflect. What

  617. Jesus wants for us is for us to recognize who

  618. we are. Yeah, 100%. I mean, we cannot come to

  619. Jesus before we recognize our sin. Nope. You

  620. cannot be saved unless you realize that there's

  621. something you need saving from, which is why

  622. sin is such an important part of the gospel.

  623. It's unfortunate if people don't talk about sin.

  624. Sin is one of those things that it is. We don't

  625. like to talk about the bad things that we do

  626. in life. We don't like to call out those things

  627. sometimes. But it is what has separated us. from

  628. God. Sin has caused the death of our Savior because

  629. it is only through his death that we can have

  630. redemption, that we can have salvation. And so

  631. this tax collector, standing far off, would not

  632. even raise his eyes to heaven. So he is back

  633. in the back. So he can't even come to the altar.

  634. He can't bring himself. He can't even come there

  635. because he probably views that as this holy space.

  636. He's like, I can't even enter into the presence.

  637. And I'm just going to stand and just strike my

  638. chest saying, God have mercy on me, a sinner.

  639. And this is, once again, I think this is where

  640. we talk about that spiritual maturity. Like a

  641. title does not give you spiritual maturity. Come

  642. on, somebody. The title of just because this

  643. person had the title of Pharisee doesn't mean

  644. that they have it all together. Doesn't mean

  645. this is the person that you need to follow in

  646. your life. The tax collector realized who he

  647. was and is getting to a point where he recognizes

  648. the sin that is in his life. And that's what

  649. Jesus wants from all of us. He wants all of us

  650. to look inside, not look at other people. And

  651. even though you see that, the Pharisee is comparing

  652. himself to others, trying to make himself feel

  653. better about himself. Like, no, that's not what

  654. Jesus wants. You know what's crazy, though? Dude,

  655. the Pharisee is guilty of those sins. Yes. He

  656. lists the extortioners, not like other men, he

  657. lists extortioners, unjust, adulterers, tax collector.

  658. Dude, the Pharisees did extort the people of

  659. God. Yes. Of their wealth for their own purposes.

  660. Yeah. Unjust. Jesus condemns the Pharisees for

  661. neglecting justice and mercy and those things,

  662. even though they're tithing 10 % of the spices

  663. in their cabinet. Adultery. Jesus, one, he does

  664. condemn the Pharisees for adultery, and he doesn't

  665. ever say specifically what he's talking about.

  666. Commentators assume that there was something

  667. specific there. But spiritual adultery, putting

  668. themselves on the throne, he does all those things.

  669. He's just looking at the external. and looking

  670. to justify himself. And it's like, dude, you're

  671. doing the stuff. You're doing all the things

  672. that you said that you are better because you

  673. don't do it. And then I love how Jesus finishes

  674. this off as he kind of puts a bow on this little

  675. parable. He says, everyone who exalts himself

  676. will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself

  677. will be exalted. And that's what we need to look

  678. at to realize that, listen, you know, the posture,

  679. that we should have as Christians is humility.

  680. Yeah. That's what we go before the throne, and

  681. that's how we walk in this world, with humility.

  682. You know what that verse 14 is? If he who exalts

  683. himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself

  684. will be exalted. That's a promise. Yeah. Like,

  685. we can take that one to the bank. But I think

  686. that those are the only ways that either of those

  687. camps ever come to see things the right way.

  688. If you humble yourself too much, which is a unique

  689. kind of pride, by the way, if you're down on

  690. yourself too much, the only way that you can

  691. see that differently is if God raises you up.

  692. If you see yourself as the stuff, as high and

  693. mighty and the best, the only way that God can

  694. bring you to a place where you see yourself rightly

  695. is to humble you. And that's terrifying. But

  696. we have to trust the hands of our master shepherd

  697. that what happens and how we are treated and

  698. what we experience is ultimately for our good.

  699. But you're completely right. That is the heart

  700. that God's looking for in his people. I think

  701. it's 1 Peter or Hebrews or one of those books.

  702. Humble yourself, therefore, under the mighty

  703. hand of God that at the proper time he might

  704. exalt you. Amen. Amen. Well, dude, this has been

  705. fun. I feel like this one went particularly fast.

  706. I don't know. Maybe it was the talk of Christmas

  707. and Christmas presents. I feel like we've been

  708. doing this for a while now. But yeah, Sean's

  709. like, please let it end. But we have had some

  710. good discussions today, man. So we have, well,

  711. dudes and dudettes, pursuers, as it were. This

  712. has been fun. I have been Ben Smith. Yeah, I've

  713. been Sean Griffin. And I just want to remind

  714. you guys real quick. Dude, you ruined our ending.

  715. But I need to let them know. Okay, fine. Say

  716. it again. So here's the deal. Because the blue

  717. book, the quarter two book is almost done. So

  718. for those of you following along with us, you

  719. need to make sure next time you are in the sanctuary,

  720. pick up the new purple quarter three pursuing

  721. Jesus. Purple book. Purple book. Y 'all, this

  722. is what I deal with on a daily basis. When you

  723. work with a worship pastor, you deal with this

  724. kind of stuff all the time. Okay, well, when

  725. you work with a youth pastor, you work with him

  726. walking into your office with a toilet paper

  727. roll taped to a leaf blower, and he coats your

  728. office with TP. It had to be tested before it

  729. was done before BBS Kids. This has been Ben Smith.

  730. That's Sean Griffin. We'll see you next week.

  731. Have some tacos. Pursuing Jesus is a ministry

  732. of Memorial Baptist Church in Norwood, North

  733. Carolina.