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Restoring Damaged Relationships 4

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  1. going to have this, what do you call this, a venue, an opportunity to speak, this what?

  2. This class, that is true, that is true.

  3. So it just occurred to me that three men from Trinity Baptist are planning on going on the

  4. men's retreat at Spofford, Camp Spofford, on the weekend of the 20th, 21st and 22nd.

  5. And if any other men out there are interested in such a thing, which I do recommend having

  6. gone last year, please feel free to speak to me.

  7. There.

  8. And now, we are on.

  9. Okay, good.

  10. Let's pray.

  11. Let's pray.

  12. Heavenly Father.

  13. Thank you for your love for us in Jesus, for reconciling us to you in your great love.

  14. We ask that as your children, you will give us fruit in the area of reconciliation and

  15. demonstrating your love, having your love flowing through us, that the world may see that you

  16. sent Jesus, and that we are your disciples.

  17. We ask for the glory of Jesus' name.

  18. Amen.

  19. Amen.

  20. I'd like to begin this morning by telling a story about Larry, Larry's mom and dad,

  21. forgiveness, and trust.

  22. And I'm going to tell it from the perspective of Larry's dad speaking with his mom.

  23. You can maybe picture them alone in the kitchen one evening.

  24. And what dad is doing is summarizing some events from the past three weeks.

  25. Yeah, it's been just three weeks since Larry took our new Volvo to go out on a date.

  26. And before the evening ended, he had filled the car with eight kids.

  27. They drank a case of beer.

  28. And as he demonstrated how the Volvo corners, he sideswiped three cars going 40 miles an hour

  29. in the center of the town square.

  30. Now, yes, Larry's asked us to forgive him.

  31. And we forgave him.

  32. We've only had the car back a few days now.

  33. And Larry asks if he can take out the car this weekend on a date.

  34. I have forgiven Larry.

  35. But I want to know if he's learned anything from the experience.

  36. I care about Larry.

  37. I think he can be trusted with the Volvo again.

  38. Someday.

  39. But first, I want to see some evidence that he will be more responsible in the future.

  40. That he really cares about the rest of the family being able to use an unwrecked car.

  41. And that he will help cover the expenses of the increased insurance costs due to the accident.

  42. Here's my question.

  43. Has dad really forgiven Larry?

  44. What do you think?

  45. Any follow-up questions?

  46. I hear a yes.

  47. But Larry might say, if dad says, well, no, not this weekend.

  48. Larry might say, why not?

  49. You forgave me.

  50. If you don't have the same handout I've been handing out for four weeks, I encourage you to get one.

  51. We'll use it a little bit today.

  52. There's copies on that chair and there's copies in the back also.

  53. And here we are at the end.

  54. Step four in a set of guidelines for restoring damaged relationships.

  55. And this one's entitled Rebuilding Trust.

  56. But you know what?

  57. I don't want us to look there quite yet.

  58. I want to go up on the page a little bit to where it says,

  59. Forgiveness includes, and as it turns out the first two things are my step one and step two,

  60. renouncing anger, responding in love, and then canceling the moral or personal debt that someone had with regard to you.

  61. So, we might ask, has Larry's dad canceled the personal debt?

  62. Now, of course, this is not a biblical definition that I can point to.

  63. It's a definition of forgiveness that I got from an author whose name is somewhere up here.

  64. Augsburger.

  65. Oh, yeah, David Augsburger, right there.

  66. But what do you think?

  67. Has dad canceled the personal debt?

  68. No.

  69. Okay.

  70. Any other thoughts?

  71. Yes.

  72. You know, why or why not?

  73. Now, Esther thought, yes.

  74. Somebody, I don't know who that is over there.

  75. Okay, Laurie.

  76. No.

  77. Well, let me give you, this may help.

  78. Let me give you at least what I think of as an example of somebody, in this case, dad, not forgiving Larry's debt.

  79. It's a few weeks.

  80. Yes.

  81. Uh, um, no, I can just read right here.

  82. One month after the accident, Larry says, dad, Jim's family is going to the lake house for the weekend, and they invited me to go along with them.

  83. May I?

  84. Dad, dad, no.

  85. Dad, you've shown yourself to be completely irresponsible.

  86. But dad, you've let me go to the lake house with them several times over the past year, and there was never any trouble.

  87. Dad, you won't be going anymore.

  88. I don't know if I'll ever be able to trust you again.

  89. Plus, I sure can think of a lot of chores that need to be done around the house this weekend.

  90. Again, and you owe me.

  91. I owe me.

  92. I owe me.

  93. I owe me.

  94. I owe me.

  95. Okay.

  96. Okay.

  97. So, I think I gave an acceptable example of somebody not canceling the personal debt.

  98. Uh, you know, literally, you still owe me.

  99. The price has not been paid up.

  100. Now, I'll give you my opinion.

  101. Uh, and again, I'm not saying this is something you can prove from scripture, but I would say, before Larry took out the car and got the kids in and had the accident and all of that,

  102. he did not have a right to use the new family car.

  103. Um, and after the accident, even after he's forgiven, he still doesn't have a right to use the family car.

  104. Um, dad and mom have the right and responsibility to decide what is an appropriate amount of trust to give to their children.

  105. And hopefully, as a child grows, you know, that, um, the responsibility that the child has and exhibits, their amount of responsibility and trustworthiness grows,

  106. and their parents, uh, uh, trusting them with more and more responsibility grows.

  107. Um, so I don't think just saying, uh, I, I don't think dad saying this necessarily means that he hasn't forgiven that personal debt.

  108. But, trust has been violated, and it takes time to build trust.

  109. Um, that's true in any relationship.

  110. You meet somebody for the first time, what do you trust them with?

  111. You know, knowledge about yourself or, uh, you know, depending on them.

  112. It, it's gonna change over time.

  113. Uh, it might grow, it might, you know, quickly crash, and you might say, well, I'm not gonna share anything with that person ever again that, uh, I don't want shouted from the rooftops.

  114. Um, so, uh, it, it's complicated, but I do think it's helpful, I think it's helpful, to separate, uh, reconciliation, which includes repentance and forgiveness, from trust building.

  115. Um, and, uh, let me give an example of, uh, of this with regard to Larry and Dad.

  116. Going right back to the beginning.

  117. Um, Dad gets a call from the police.

  118. They have the car at the town center, damaged.

  119. They had eight kids in it.

  120. Uh, you know, they're calling all the parents.

  121. Uh, there's been drinking.

  122. So, Dad drives down in the old car.

  123. And, um, you know, deals with the police.

  124. The accident report.

  125. Dad is probably not real happy.

  126. Um, uh, you know, he might even be angry.

  127. Uh, which I would imagine, uh, I would be.

  128. So, um, during this, you know, Larry comes up, maybe a little under the weather.

  129. Dad, I'm so sorry.

  130. Will you forgive me?

  131. I think it's appropriate for Dad to say, we'll talk about this later.

  132. Or even, not now!

  133. Or whatever the case may be.

  134. So, let's say, uh, uh, by the way, hopefully Dad's checked out and made sure that all eight of the kids, including Larry, are not hurt.

  135. And, and things like that.

  136. Okay.

  137. So, um, a day or two later, Dad's gotten over his anger.

  138. And then proceeds to step two.

  139. Step one, renouncing anger.

  140. Step two, responding in love.

  141. Larry's dad starts thinking, okay, where do we go from here?

  142. Um, how can, you know, I rebuild, uh, this relationship that's been damaged with, uh, Larry?

  143. And, and how can I help him grow spiritually?

  144. We're going to assume it's a, it's a functional Christian family.

  145. Um, so he responds in love and he starts thinking about that.

  146. And so he gets to the point where he says, uh, to Larry, let's sit down and talk about what happened now.

  147. Okay, that's Dad.

  148. But let's drop back to Larry.

  149. How's Larry dealing with restoring a damaged relationship?

  150. Well, at first, Larry might be angry.

  151. Um, oh, Dan.

  152. I let him get in the car and he snuck in that case of beer.

  153. Oh.

  154. And then Julie.

  155. She offered me a can of beer while I was driving.

  156. Why in the world did she do that?

  157. And then, while I'm showing how well I can drive and how the Volvo corners, she hits my arm.

  158. Oh, if that hadn't happened, oh, this wouldn't have happened.

  159. Um, or.

  160. Who knows?

  161. Uh, he can probably even think of some reasons to be angry with Dad.

  162. You know, maybe Dad's done things over the years that weren't quite right.

  163. So, um, in this case, even the person who is the offender may have anger and hurt to deal with.

  164. Uh, let's say, um, Larry's over that.

  165. And by God's grace, he really, at some point in a few days, really wants to do the right thing.

  166. Um, and, um, so, when Dad says, let's get together and talk about this, he says, okay.

  167. So, uh, they get together and Larry says again, now we're up to step three, reconciliation.

  168. We've renounced anger, we're responding in love, at least as we understand it, and now we're ready to deal with the issues.

  169. Reconciliation.

  170. Um, so, uh, Larry says, Dad, please forgive me.

  171. In my opinion, Dad, being a wise father, says, forgive you for what?

  172. Um, that I had an accident, says Larry.

  173. Dad says, well, remember when Mom had an accident two years ago?

  174. She didn't ask me for forgiveness.

  175. I didn't think there was any need to forgive her.

  176. It was an accident.

  177. And then, Larry, by the grace of God, says, Dad, please forgive me for putting eight kids in the car.

  178. For making, you know, sure that I or other people weren't drinking in the car.

  179. Please forgive me for trying to show off about, you know, how well I could drive.

  180. What I did was wrong, and I'm sorry for it.

  181. And so, at this point, uh, let's see.

  182. Um, repentance.

  183. Uh, confessing evil actions and intentions.

  184. Check.

  185. Um, expressing regret for hurt caused.

  186. Check.

  187. And, I shouldn't even make a joke out of this, should I?

  188. Because this is complicated and tough, and I don't want to communicate that, you know, this is like a magic formula.

  189. Um, which it is not.

  190. But, it's still good to think about these things and try and cover the bases.

  191. I don't know.

  192. Um, um, hopefully we won't have to check that one goodbye.

  193. But, uh, uh, and thirdly, under, uh, repentance.

  194. Um, hmm.

  195. Um, uh, yeah, thank you.

  196. Thank you.

  197. Committing to right behavior in the future.

  198. Uh, dad, I promise I won't do it again.

  199. Good.

  200. Good.

  201. And dad forgives him and cancels the moral debt.

  202. Does that mean that Larry can use the car next weekend?

  203. Absolutely not.

  204. Children of Sammy in the future.

  205. Uh, that's, uh, I, I think you're going to get some good tough love there.

  206. Good.

  207. Yes, I agree.

  208. Um, because when you've had a problem like this, when a relationship has been damaged, restoring trust usually takes time.

  209. Um, so, let me pause for a moment before we go back to Joseph and his brothers and the biblical account.

  210. Any questions, comments, arguments?

  211. No.

  212. Not from Sam.

  213. Okay.

  214. Um, feel free to ask questions as we continue.

  215. I may not see you.

  216. I'm probably not ignoring you.

  217. You just have to be loud.

  218. Um, so, let's, uh, turn, um, back in our Bibles, uh, to, uh, Genesis 45.

  219. And if you're using the church Bibles, which I forgot to ask somebody to get out, it's on page 39 in the downstairs, I think, Pew Bibles.

  220. Um, um, um, and so, what I'm going to read is, um, the closest thing we have in Genesis to, uh, the initial reconciliation process for Joseph and his brothers.

  221. Um, so, Genesis 45, beginning with verse 4.

  222. Um, Joseph said to his brothers, come near to me, please.

  223. And they came near.

  224. And he said, I am your brother Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt.

  225. And now, do not be distressed or angry with yourselves because you sold me here.

  226. For God sent me before you to preserve life.

  227. For the famine has been in the land these two years, and there are yet five years in which there will be neither plowing nor harvest.

  228. And God sent me here before you to preserve for you a remnant on earth and to keep alive for you many survivors.

  229. So, it was not you who sent me here, but God.

  230. He has made me a father to Pharaoh and lord of all his house and ruler over all the land of Egypt.

  231. Hurry and go up to my father and say to him, thus says your son Joseph.

  232. God, um, God has made me lord over all Egypt.

  233. Come down to me.

  234. Do not tarry.

  235. You shall dwell in the land of Goshen, and you shall be near me.

  236. You and your children and your children's children and your flocks and your herds and all that you have.

  237. There I will provide for you.

  238. For there are yet five years of famine to come.

  239. So that you and your household and all that you have.

  240. And I probably missed something there, but will not come to poverty.

  241. There we are.

  242. Verse 12.

  243. Verse 13.

  244. And now your eyes see, and the eyes of my brother Benjamin see, that it is my mouth that speaks to you.

  245. You must tell your father of all my honor in Egypt and of all that you have seen.

  246. Hurry and bring my father down here.

  247. Then he fell on his brother Benjamin's neck and wept.

  248. And Benjamin wept upon his neck.

  249. And he kissed all his brothers and wept upon them.

  250. After that, his brothers talked with him.

  251. And just going down to verse 24.

  252. I think this is another act of love on Joseph's part.

  253. Then he sent his brothers away.

  254. And as they departed, he said to them, do not quarrel on the way.

  255. Now, in the text that follows, we see that the ten, probably eleven brothers, I would think, including Benjamin,

  256. because he has his family to collect too, as well as all the others,

  257. go back to where their father Jacob is in Canaan.

  258. And they all gather up and make their way down to Egypt.

  259. So, though we can't quite as neatly as in the case of my addition to the Larry story,

  260. you know, check off all the steps of repentance and forgiveness,

  261. I think there are at least parallels there.

  262. So, reconciliation, from my perspective, has taken place.

  263. And they all come down to Egypt and they live happily for a long time after.

  264. Or did they?

  265. Because, as I see it, reconciliation is not the end of restoring a relationship.

  266. It's a step, but trust has to be rebuilt.

  267. And now we can finally look at step four, rebuilding trust.

  268. And right down here on the handout, you may see common barriers to rebuilding trust are

  269. unreliable repentance and insincere forgiveness.

  270. With regard to unreliable repentance,

  271. the situation with Joseph and his brothers is very lopsided with regard to power.

  272. Joseph has almost all the power in their relationship.

  273. And so, his brothers, you might say, would be very unwise to, if they're still feeling hatred

  274. or anger towards Joseph, to show that.

  275. However, there are ways that they might, in speech or in action,

  276. try and maneuver for their own best interests.

  277. For example, one of the brothers might spend a lot of time with dad.

  278. Now, they all come down to Egypt and we read that Jacob, the father,

  279. lived for 17 years in Egypt with Joseph and the other brothers before he died.

  280. So, imagine one brother making a special point to spend a lot of time with dad.

  281. And maybe even saying something like, boy, I wish we saw more of Joseph.

  282. You know, he says he has a lot to do at work.

  283. But, he's governor of the land.

  284. You know, he can really spend time as he wants to.

  285. But, the Bible doesn't give any indication of that kind of thing.

  286. That doesn't prove it didn't happen, but there's no indication of it.

  287. And, with regard to Joseph and his brothers,

  288. Joseph lived another 55 or so years in Egypt

  289. after the brothers and Jacob came down to live there too.

  290. A long time to work on rebuilding trust

  291. and ideally having a better relationship

  292. than they had before all this happened.

  293. Before they beat Joseph up when he was 17

  294. and sold him as a slave.

  295. Now, the only evidence that I know of that we have in the Bible

  296. that speaks to this

  297. is that when Joseph died,

  298. he gave responsibility for what at that point

  299. might have been the most important thing to his heart

  300. into his brother's responsibility.

  301. And, for this, Genesis 50, verse 24 and following.

    Genesis 50:24

  302. Page 54 in the Downstairs Church Bible.

  303. Then Joseph said to his brothers,

  304. I am about to die,

  305. but God will surely come to your aid

  306. and take you up out of this land

  307. to the land promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

  308. And Joseph made the sons of Israel swear an oath

  309. and said,

  310. God will surely come to your aid

  311. and then you must carry my bones up from this place.

  312. So Joseph died at the age of 110

  313. and after they embalmed him,

  314. he was placed in a coffin in Egypt.

  315. Joseph, it seems to me,

  316. could have arranged things with his Egyptian servants

  317. to do this.

  318. But he entrusted it to the brothers that were still alive,

  319. it seems from the text.

  320. And it was actually many years later

  321. that this happened.

  322. But this suggests to me, anyway,

  323. that their relationship had improved

  324. and that trust had been restored.

  325. So, that's what I see in the text

  326. about unreliable repentance.

  327. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of that

  328. on the case of the Ten Brothers.

  329. But what about the other common barrier

  330. to rebuilding trust?

  331. Insincere forgiveness.

  332. And this would be on Joseph's part, primarily.

  333. After the reconciliation,

  334. it appears that Joseph, you know,

  335. isn't holding anything against his brothers,

  336. that he loves them.

  337. And we see evidence of that in

  338. Genesis 47,

  339. starting with verse 11,

  340. page 40, bottom right.

  341. 47, 11.

  342. So, after the 11 brothers and Jacob

  343. and all their family come back to Egypt,

  344. it says,

  345. Joseph settled his father and his brothers

  346. in Egypt and gave them property

  347. in the best part of the land,

  348. the district of Ramses,

  349. as Pharaoh had directed.

  350. Joseph also provided his father

  351. and his brothers

  352. and all his father's household

  353. with food

  354. according to the number

  355. of their children.

  356. children,

  357. this is the first sign I see

  358. of no more favoritism.

  359. You know,

  360. as in the past,

  361. maybe as part of the test,

  362. you know,

  363. Benjamin got five times as much

  364. on some occasion.

  365. But here,

  366. apparently,

  367. the rules are

  368. no more favoritism.

  369. We're providing

  370. according to need,

  371. not according to

  372. who I think has treated me,

  373. you know,

  374. better or worse.

  375. But,

  376. imagine this.

  377. The brothers

  378. continue to wonder

  379. if Joseph's forgiveness

  380. of them

  381. was really sincere.

  382. Things look good.

  383. But,

  384. there was the possibility

  385. that Joseph was waiting

  386. until the death

  387. of their father

  388. to get even.

  389. After all,

  390. clearly,

  391. Joseph loves

  392. his father Jacob.

  393. And,

  394. if he was,

  395. you know,

  396. seeking revenge

  397. or ready to punish them,

  398. that would

  399. almost certainly

  400. cause distress

  401. to father.

  402. Well,

  403. 17 years

  404. after they come

  405. down to Egypt,

  406. Jacob dies.

  407. And,

  408. might the brothers

  409. be wondering,

  410. ah,

  411. will the other

  412. shoe drop

  413. now?

  414. well,

  415. we don't have to

  416. speculate

  417. if they were

  418. worried about that

  419. or not.

  420. The text tells us.

  421. And,

  422. Genesis 50,

    Genesis 50:15

  423. verse 15,

  424. and following.

  425. Page 44,

  426. and then,

  427. the church bible,

  428. I think the heading is,

  429. God's good purposes.

  430. verse 15,

  431. when Joseph's brother

  432. saw their father

  433. was dead,

  434. they said,

  435. it may be that

  436. Joseph will

  437. hate us

  438. and pay us back

  439. for the evil

  440. we did to him.

  441. So,

  442. they sent a message

  443. to Joseph

  444. saying,

  445. your father

  446. gave this command

  447. before he died.

  448. Well,

  449. maybe he did,

  450. but I think

  451. the implication

  452. is,

  453. probably

  454. not.

  455. Say to Joseph,

  456. please forgive

  457. the transgressions

  458. of your brothers

  459. and their sin

  460. because of the evil

  461. they did you.

  462. And now,

  463. please forgive

  464. the transgression

  465. of the servants

  466. of the God

  467. of your father.

  468. Joseph

  469. wept.

  470. my guess is

  471. that whether

  472. he had known

  473. that his brothers

  474. might have this worry

  475. or not,

  476. it's clear now

  477. and he

  478. has sorrow

  479. that that lack

  480. of trust,

  481. you know,

  482. their fear

  483. that his forgiveness

  484. was insincere

  485. has been

  486. percolating

  487. all this time.

  488. Joseph

  489. wept

  490. when they

  491. spoke to him.

  492. His brothers

  493. also came

  494. and fell down

  495. before him

  496. and said,

  497. behold,

  498. we are your servants.

  499. Now,

  500. as I read

  501. the next

  502. few verses,

  503. I want you

  504. to ask yourselves,

  505. does this sound

  506. familiar?

  507. But Joseph

  508. said to them,

  509. do not fear,

  510. for am I

  511. in the place

  512. of God

  513. as for you,

  514. you meant

  515. evil against me,

  516. but God

  517. meant it

  518. for good

  519. to bring

  520. about

  521. that many

  522. people

  523. should be

  524. kept alive

  525. as they

  526. are today.

  527. So do not

  528. fear,

  529. I will

  530. provide for

  531. you and

  532. your little

  533. ones.

  534. Thus

  535. he comforted

  536. them

  537. and spoke

  538. kindly

  539. to them.

  540. Almost

  541. everything

  542. that he

  543. says there,

  544. he said

  545. before,

  546. 17

  547. years ago.

  548. Did the

  549. brothers

  550. believe

  551. it

  552. then?

  553. Maybe,

  554. maybe to

  555. some degree.

  556. But,

  557. 17

  558. years later,

  559. dad's

  560. dead,

  561. circumstances

  562. are different.

  563. And that

  564. will happen

  565. in our

  566. relationships.

  567. We may

  568. be building

  569. trust,

  570. and then

  571. some new

  572. situation

  573. develops,

  574. and you

  575. wonder,

  576. on either

  577. side,

  578. you know,

  579. what will

  580. happen now?

  581. They said

  582. this,

  583. they said

  584. they'd never

  585. do it

  586. again,

  587. but will

  588. they?

  589. He said,

  590. I was

  591. really

  592. forgiven,

  593. but has

  594. he really

  595. forgiven me?

  596. Or will

  597. he trust

  598. me in

  599. this

  600. situation?

  601. And

  602. relationships

  603. like life

  604. is always

  605. a process.

  606. we can

  607. sin

  608. and go

  609. backwards,

  610. or by

  611. God's

  612. grace,

  613. we can

  614. be

  615. gracious,

  616. no guarantee

  617. what the

  618. other person

  619. will do,

  620. never any

  621. guarantee.

  622. But,

  623. when God

  624. is at

  625. work,

  626. you have

  627. a story

  628. that ends,

  629. like the

  630. story of

  631. Joseph

  632. and his

  633. brothers.

  634. When,

  635. by God's

  636. grace,

  637. both

  638. parties

  639. repent

  640. and

  641. forgive,

  642. and work

  643. hard to

  644. rebuild

  645. trust.

  646. And,

  647. that's what

  648. we want,

  649. isn't it?

  650. We want

  651. relationships

  652. relationships where

  653. we feel

  654. loved and

  655. safe,

  656. and where

  657. we are a

  658. blessing to

  659. others.

  660. But,

  661. it's not going

  662. to be like

  663. that all

  664. the time.

  665. Relationships do

  666. get damaged.

  667. We are

  668. sinners.

  669. They're

  670. sinners.

  671. What do

  672. you expect?

  673. God is

  674. God.

  675. And,

  676. he is

  677. at work

  678. in all

  679. things for

  680. the good

  681. of those

  682. who are

  683. called

  684. according to

  685. his

  686. purpose.

  687. And,

  688. he can

  689. restore those

  690. relationships

  691. to make

  692. them better

  693. than they

  694. ever were

  695. before.

  696. No

  697. guarantee,

  698. but God

  699. is able.

  700. May we

  701. take the

  702. steps that

  703. God wants

  704. us to

  705. take.

  706. And,

  707. one more

  708. thing before

  709. I,

  710. one more

  711. thing.

  712. And,

  713. that is

  714. that this

  715. is not

  716. only important

  717. for us

  718. and those

  719. we're in

  720. relationship

  721. with,

  722. but it's

  723. important for

  724. God's work

  725. in the world,

  726. for evangelism.

  727. John 17

  728. 23.

  729. Jesus is

  730. praying to

  731. the Father.

  732. And,

  733. he's speaking

  734. of believers

  735. in him.

  736. And,

  737. says this,

  738. praise this,

  739. may they

  740. be brought

  741. to complete

  742. unity

  743. to let

  744. the world

  745. know that

  746. you sent

  747. me.

  748. To let

  749. the world

  750. know that

  751. you sent

  752. me.

  753. and have

  754. loved them

  755. even as

  756. you have

  757. loved me.

  758. As we

  759. present the

  760. gospel,

  761. part of the

  762. power that

  763. the gospel

  764. will have

  765. in convincing

  766. people of

  767. its truth

  768. is the

  769. lives of

  770. God's

  771. people.

  772. God's

  773. love.

  774. So,

  775. as the

  776. Bible says,

  777. may we

  778. make every

  779. effort to

  780. preserve the

  781. unity of the

  782. spirit and

  783. the bond

  784. of peace.

  785. peace.

  786. My

  787. presentation

  788. is done.

  789. Questions?

  790. Comments?

  791. Can you

  792. say something

  793. about

  794. consequences?

  795. I could.

  796. Would you

  797. like to say

  798. something about

  799. consequences?

  800. And,

  801. I don't

  802. that's

  803. fine.

  804. That's

  805. fine.

  806. I'm not

  807. going to

  808. twist your

  809. arm.

  810. Yeah.

  811. Yeah.

  812. That continue

  813. the ramifications

  814. of

  815. choices that

  816. we make.

  817. Yes.

  818. That go

  819. out with

  820. consequences.

  821. Yes.

  822. Okay.

  823. So,

  824. you know,

  825. we've looked

  826. at the story

  827. of Joseph

  828. and his

  829. brothers.

  830. One story.

  831. And,

  832. it's unusual

  833. because,

  834. again,

  835. of the

  836. power

  837. difference.

  838. Often,

  839. in

  840. relationships,

  841. there are

  842. significant

  843. power

  844. differences,

  845. but rarely

  846. are they

  847. as extreme

  848. as the

  849. case of

  850. Joseph and

  851. his

  852. brothers.

  853. But,

  854. yes,

  855. so,

  856. Larry,

  857. you know,

  858. I think if

  859. I were

  860. Larry's

  861. dad,

  862. no,

  863. I would

  864. not let

  865. him use

  866. the car

  867. three weeks

  868. after the

  869. first

  870. accident,

  871. there would

  872. be these

  873. consequences.

  874. And,

  875. you might

  876. say,

  877. what caused

  878. Larry to

  879. do this

  880. to begin

  881. with?

  882. Well,

  883. if three

  884. months later,

  885. you know,

  886. on the fourth

  887. time that

  888. Larry's been

  889. able to use

  890. the new

  891. family car

  892. again,

  893. if he's

  894. arrested for

  895. drunk driving,

  896. you know,

  897. dad might

  898. say,

  899. you know,

  900. you can't

  901. use a

  902. family car

  903. again.

  904. You know,

  905. if you want

  906. a car to

  907. drive,

  908. you're going

  909. to have

  910. to buy

  911. your own,

  912. pay your

  913. own insurance,

  914. you know.

  915. So,

  916. yes,

  917. there are

  918. consequences

  919. for sin.

  920. So,

  921. you might

  922. say,

  923. yeah,

  924. okay,

  925. let me

  926. stop there.

  927. It seems

  928. like,

  929. too,

  930. there could

  931. be processes,

  932. right,

  933. where the

  934. father sets

  935. up conditions

  936. of rebuilding

  937. trust.

  938. You can

  939. drive with

  940. me in the

  941. car next

  942. time.

  943. You can

  944. drive for

  945. next year

  946. as long as

  947. you don't

  948. have any

  949. passengers,

  950. because that

  951. was part of

  952. the problem.

  953. Right?

  954. And if you

  955. can keep to

  956. these things,

  957. you're building

  958. trust.

  959. And then

  960. down the

  961. road,

  962. sure,

  963. you can

  964. pick the

  965. car again.

  966. So,

  967. to think

  968. through,

  969. part of

  970. what the

  971. rebuilding

  972. trust can

  973. do is

  974. to give

  975. opportunities,

  976. you know,

  977. from the

  978. one who

  979. is sort

  980. of the

  981. offended

  982. party in

  983. this,

  984. to say,

  985. I'm going

  986. to give

  987. you some

  988. opportunities

  989. to build

  990. trust.

  991. But a

  992. recognition,

  993. the consequences

  994. are,

  995. if you

  996. don't

  997. follow

  998. through

  999. in

  1000. these

  1001. cases,

  1002. then we

  1003. go back

  1004. to zero.

  1005. You know,

  1006. then the

  1007. trust isn't

  1008. being built,

  1009. and therefore

  1010. you're back

  1011. to you

  1012. can't use

  1013. the car

  1014. at all,

  1015. potentially,

  1016. right?

  1017. I mean,

  1018. those are

  1019. some of

  1020. the consequences.

  1021. And then

  1022. the family

  1023. name gets

  1024. besmirched

  1025. if it

  1026. gets put

  1027. in the

  1028. paper.

  1029. And if

  1030. he's

  1031. arrested,

  1032. you know,

  1033. yeah,

  1034. it's going

  1035. to,

  1036. everyone

  1037. will know,

  1038. and there's

  1039. all kinds

  1040. of tentacles

  1041. that go

  1042. out.

  1043. Sin is a

  1044. horrible

  1045. thing.

  1046. No

  1047. getting

  1048. around that.

  1049. And I

  1050. guess I

  1051. just want

  1052. to say

  1053. this.

  1054. there are

  1055. those

  1056. consequences,

  1057. there are

  1058. those

  1059. tentacles,

  1060. and then

  1061. there's

  1062. God's

  1063. forgiveness

  1064. of us.

  1065. The

  1066. personal

  1067. debt is

  1068. canceled

  1069. with God's

  1070. forgiveness,

  1071. but more

  1072. often than

  1073. not,

  1074. we continue

  1075. to,

  1076. in this

  1077. fallen world,

  1078. as fallen

  1079. people suffer

  1080. the results

  1081. of our

  1082. actions.

  1083. Yeah,

  1084. I mean,

  1085. I think

  1086. we can

  1087. see,

  1088. maybe

  1089. most

  1090. clearly,

  1091. God's

  1092. relationship

  1093. with us,

  1094. like,

  1095. he completely

  1096. forgives us

  1097. through Christ.

  1098. He doesn't,

  1099. he's not,

  1100. you know,

  1101. just about

  1102. to,

  1103. like,

  1104. try and

  1105. get even

  1106. with us,

  1107. but he

  1108. does discipline

  1109. us,

  1110. and he

  1111. does,

  1112. you know,

  1113. he does

  1114. let us,

  1115. and I

  1116. think

  1117. sometimes

  1118. people have

  1119. trouble with

  1120. that when

  1121. they're still

  1122. experiencing the

  1123. consequences of

  1124. their sin,

  1125. and they

  1126. think,

  1127. well,

  1128. God must

  1129. hate me,

  1130. and he

  1131. must just

  1132. be trying

  1133. to get rid

  1134. of me,

  1135. and it's

  1136. like,

  1137. no,

  1138. actually,

  1139. he's a

  1140. good father,

  1141. he's

  1142. disciplining

  1143. you,

  1144. and he

  1145. has,

  1146. you know,

  1147. he has

  1148. really

  1149. forgiven us

  1150. when we

  1151. repented,

  1152. and at

  1153. the same

  1154. time,

  1155. we'll

  1156. still

  1157. experience

  1158. consequences

  1159. of our

  1160. sin in

  1161. this life.

  1162. We won't

  1163. experience

  1164. consequences

  1165. of our

  1166. sin in

  1167. hell,

  1168. like,

  1169. he's

  1170. taken that

  1171. away.

  1172. But,

  1173. I think

  1174. also a

  1175. biblical idea

  1176. that sort

  1177. of connects

  1178. with this

  1179. is the

  1180. idea of

  1181. restitution.

  1182. So,

  1183. in some

  1184. of the

  1185. Old

  1186. Testament,

  1187. you know,

  1188. if you

  1189. steal something

  1190. from somebody,

  1191. you have to

  1192. make it

  1193. right by,

  1194. you know,

  1195. you steal

  1196. their cow

  1197. or ox

  1198. or whatever,

  1199. and you

  1200. have to

  1201. replace it

  1202. plus some

  1203. extra.

  1204. As a way

  1205. of showing,

  1206. like,

  1207. I do

  1208. really repent,

  1209. and I really

  1210. want to make

  1211. right what's

  1212. been wrong.

  1213. And I don't

  1214. think we're,

  1215. I mean,

  1216. I think some

  1217. situations are

  1218. so broken

  1219. that we're

  1220. not even

  1221. really able

  1222. to make

  1223. right what's

  1224. been wrong

  1225. fully.

  1226. You know,

  1227. when somebody

  1228. gets hurt or

  1229. killed,

  1230. like,

  1231. there's not

  1232. really a way

  1233. that you

  1234. can fix

  1235. that,

  1236. but I

  1237. still think

  1238. this idea

  1239. of how

  1240. do I,

  1241. thinking,

  1242. like,

  1243. what's the

  1244. wrong that

  1245. I've

  1246. committed,

  1247. and what

  1248. would it

  1249. mean to

  1250. sort of

  1251. make restitution

  1252. in the sense

  1253. of,

  1254. like,

  1255. how can I

  1256. help make

  1257. things,

  1258. do what I

  1259. can to help

  1260. make things

  1261. right?

  1262. You know,

  1263. it's more

  1264. than just

  1265. saying I'm

  1266. really sorry

  1267. for what I

  1268. did,

  1269. then we'll

  1270. do it

  1271. again,

  1272. but going

  1273. to the next

  1274. of a thing,

  1275. and I really

  1276. want to,

  1277. attribute to

  1278. something good

  1279. and healthy

  1280. rather than

  1281. so,

  1282. under my

  1283. copy of the

  1284. head,

  1285. though,

  1286. where it

  1287. says repentance

  1288. includes,

  1289. I don't

  1290. see restitution

  1291. there,

  1292. so I'm

  1293. writing it

  1294. to think

  1295. about,

  1296. because,

  1297. as Pastor

  1298. Greg is

  1299. suggesting,

  1300. or what

  1301. he's suggesting,

  1302. I would

  1303. say,

  1304. fits into

  1305. real repentance,

  1306. repentance,

  1307. repentance,

  1308. repentance,

  1309. repentance,

  1310. yeah,

  1311. let us

  1312. pray,

  1313. Lord,

  1314. we praise

  1315. you because

  1316. you are the

  1317. great God

  1318. who can

  1319. and does

  1320. use

  1321. our

  1322. evil

  1323. actions,

  1324. for good,

  1325. for good.

  1326. We rejoice

  1327. that

  1328. nothing is

  1329. too hard

  1330. for you.

  1331. You are

  1332. the one

  1333. who raises

  1334. the dead.

  1335. May we

  1336. be encouraged

  1337. to follow

  1338. you.

  1339. Enable us,

  1340. Lord,

  1341. to do what

  1342. you want

  1343. us to do,

  1344. that your

  1345. goodness and

  1346. love and

  1347. glory may

  1348. shine through

  1349. our lives.

  1350. Amen.

  1351. Amen.

  1352. worthy.

  1353. Amen.

  1354. Amen.

  1355. Amen.

  1356. Amen.

  1357. Amen.

  1358. Amen.

  1359. Amen.

  1360. Amen.

  1361. Amen.

  1362. Amen.

  1363. Amen.

  1364. Amen.

  1365. Amen.

  1366. Amen.

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