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The Accuracy of the New Testament

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  1. Hello, everyone. It's good to see you all again this week.

  2. I want to welcome you back to part two of our three-part series on the reliability of the New Testament.

  3. For those of you who don't know me, my name is Tom Schmidt. I'm a Ph.D. student at Yale University.

  4. I focus on the history of Christianity and also the history of the New Testament.

  5. Last week when I was with you all, I talked about the preservation of the New Testament.

  6. That was part one, and we saw how carefully and reliably the text of the New Testament has been preserved over the centuries.

  7. And today in part two, I'm going to talk about the accuracy of the New Testament.

  8. And we'll cover how the content of the New Testament is accurate, how it's true, and how it's trustworthy.

  9. And then next week, we'll talk about the canonicity of the New Testament,

  10. and I'll speak about how the New Testament was assembled and put together.

  11. And we're going in this order because these topics lead into one another fairly naturally.

  12. So last week, we saw how the New Testament has been well-preserved,

  13. but we all know that it's possible for someone to write a document

  14. that's full of exaggerations and misstatements and even lies,

  15. and then have that document preserved over the centuries.

  16. So if the New Testament is truly reliable,

  17. then it needs to be more than just carefully preserved.

  18. It also needs to be accurate and true, and that's what we'll cover today.

  19. We'll investigate why we can trust that the New Testament is trustworthy,

  20. why we can trust that what it says about Jesus is true,

  21. why its claims are factual,

  22. and this pertains especially to the New Testament's central claim

  23. that Jesus was crucified and buried and then resurrected three days later.

  24. Why don't we open with prayer, though, before we begin.

  25. Father in Heaven, I want to thank You for this opportunity to gather together here safely together

  26. and to learn about Your Word.

  27. And we ask, in the name of Jesus, that You would send Your Holy Spirit into our hearts this morning,

  28. and that You would help us to grow in trust in Your Word,

  29. and above all, trust in You,

  30. that we would depend on You.

  31. Lord, I pray if there's any of us here who are searching for You,

  32. that You would be revealed in this time.

  33. I pray, Lord, that You would calm any troubled hearts,

  34. and that You would forgive any unforgiven sins.

  35. Lord, I pray You'd open our hearts to hear what You have to say today.

  36. And we pray all of this in the mighty name of Jesus.

  37. Amen.

  38. All right, so let's get started.

  39. Why can we trust that the New Testament is accurate and true?

  40. You know, sometimes we hear accusations

  41. that the New Testament is based on myths or folk tales,

  42. that it's inaccurate or deceptive.

  43. I've heard these claims many times,

  44. both in popular culture and in the classroom.

  45. I'm sure some of you may have heard these things as well.

  46. But I'm here to tell you today that all this is wrong.

  47. The New Testament is not based on rumors or lies or myths,

  48. and indeed there are several reasons

  49. why we can trust its factual claims.

  50. Now, these reasons build on one another,

  51. so we're going to begin with the most fundamental reason.

  52. We can trust that the New Testament

  53. is not made up of myths or rumors.

  54. We can trust that it's true and accurate,

  55. first and foremost,

  56. because it is based on eyewitness testimony.

  57. It's not based off of rumor or hearsay.

  58. And these eyewitnesses who are behind the documents of the New Testament

  59. were in a position to know what Jesus said

  60. and to report it accurately.

  61. Let me give you some examples of this.

  62. John, the disciple of Jesus,

  63. he writes in the New Testament in his first letter.

  64. He talks about Jesus,

  65. and he calls him the word of life.

  66. And he says this,

  67. He says,

  68. He says,

  69. That which was from the beginning,

  70. which we have heard,

  71. which we have seen with our eyes,

  72. which we have looked at,

  73. and our hands have touched,

  74. this we proclaim concerning the word of life,

  75. the life appeared.

  76. We have seen it and testified to it,

  77. and we proclaim to you the eternal life

  78. which was with the Father

  79. and has appeared to us.

  80. We proclaim to you

  81. what we have seen and heard.

  82. John tells us here

  83. that he's preaching

  84. not something that he just heard about distantly,

  85. a rumor or anything like that,

  86. but something that he witnessed.

  87. He saw Jesus with his eyes.

  88. He touched him with his hands.

  89. He directly heard him with his ears.

  90. And Peter, another disciple of Jesus,

  91. he says the same thing in the New Testament

  92. in his second letter.

  93. He says,

  94. We did not follow cleverly devised tales

  95. when we made known to you

  96. the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,

  97. but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

  98. Other New Testament authors make similar claims.

  99. Luke, who wrote the Gospel of Luke,

  100. he says in the beginning

  101. that he interviewed eyewitnesses about Jesus.

  102. He says,

  103. Inasmuch as many have undertaken

  104. to compile an account

  105. of the things accomplished among us,

  106. just as they were handed down to us

  107. by those who from the beginning

  108. were eyewitnesses and servants of the word,

  109. it seemed fitting for me as well.

  110. Having investigated everything carefully

  111. from the beginning

  112. to write it out for you

  113. in consecutive order,

  114. most excellent Theophilus,

  115. so that you may know the exact truth

  116. about the things that you have been taught.

  117. Theophilus, whom Luke mentions,

  118. he was the person to whom Luke wrote.

  119. And Luke tells him,

  120. I went to the eyewitnesses.

  121. I investigated everything carefully

  122. so that I could tell the exact truth to you.

  123. So we've heard from the Apostle John,

  124. the Apostle Peter,

  125. Luke the evangelist,

  126. but we've got more witnesses.

  127. We have the Apostle Paul.

  128. He also testifies as an eyewitness,

  129. and he gives what is perhaps

  130. the earliest account

  131. of the resurrection of Jesus.

  132. In his own words to the Corinthians,

  133. he says,

  134. I delivered to you as of first importance

  135. what I also received,

  136. that Christ died for our sins

  137. in accordance to the Scriptures,

  138. that he was buried,

  139. that he was raised on the third day

  140. in accordance with the Scriptures,

  141. and that he appeared to Cephas,

  142. that's Peter,

  143. and then to the twelve,

  144. the twelve apostles.

  145. Then he appeared to more than

  146. five hundred brothers at one time,

  147. most of whom are still alive,

  148. though some have fallen asleep.

  149. Then he appeared to James,

  150. and to all the apostles,

  151. last of all,

  152. as to one untimely born,

  153. he appeared also to me.

  154. The resurrection of Jesus

  155. is the essence of our faith,

  156. and Paul gives his own eyewitness

  157. testimony of it here.

  158. And indeed,

  159. the twelve apostles agree.

  160. They say in the book of Acts,

  161. this Jesus God raised up,

  162. and of that we all are witnesses.

  163. The fact that the New Testament

  164. is based on eyewitness testimony

  165. is so well established

  166. that even anti-Christian sources agree.

  167. Now what do I mean by these

  168. anti-Christian sources?

  169. These sources were ancient writers

  170. who attacked Christianity

  171. in the second through fourth centuries.

  172. They were people like Celsus and Porphyry,

  173. Heracles and Julian the Apostate,

  174. they were highly educated,

  175. powerful,

  176. and extremely hostile to Christianity,

  177. but even when they were attacking

  178. the New Testament,

  179. they still attributed its writings

  180. to Jesus' disciples.

  181. These ancient skeptics

  182. did not believe

  183. that the New Testament documents

  184. were written under false names

  185. far after the time of Jesus,

  186. and hence were based on rumors

  187. or hearsay,

  188. like some scholars

  189. try to maintain today.

  190. They acknowledged

  191. that the disciples

  192. wrote these documents.

  193. So if such hostile sources agree

  194. that the disciples

  195. were ultimately behind

  196. the New Testament,

  197. then we also can be sure

  198. that the New Testament

  199. is indeed based on eyewitness testimony,

  200. and that its account

  201. of the life of Jesus

  202. and his resurrection

  203. is not based off of

  204. mere rumor or hearsay.

  205. But I want to ask you something.

  206. Even if we can be sure

  207. that the New Testament

  208. is based on eyewitness testimony,

  209. how can we be sure

  210. that the eyewitnesses

  211. were telling the truth?

  212. We all know that eyewitnesses

  213. can lie,

  214. so do we have good reason

  215. to think that these eyewitnesses

  216. are being truthful

  217. and that they're not

  218. fabricating their claims?

  219. Well, we have several reasons

  220. to trust the claims

  221. of these eyewitnesses.

  222. I'll start with the first one.

  223. Firstly, they did not have

  224. a motive to lie

  225. about the resurrection of Jesus.

  226. They did not gain materially

  227. from their claims.

  228. They did not gain money.

  229. They did not gain fame.

  230. They did not gain power

  231. or earthly benefit

  232. by preaching that Jesus

  233. was the Son of God

  234. and that he was resurrected.

  235. Not only does the New Testament

  236. testify to this,

  237. but even those ancient critics

  238. of Christianity

  239. that I mentioned earlier,

  240. like Celsus and Julian,

  241. even they agree with this.

  242. In fact,

  243. when you read their writings,

  244. they mocked the apostles

  245. for being poor,

  246. for being members

  247. of the underclass,

  248. for being uneducated,

  249. for being friends

  250. with slaves

  251. and the lower classes

  252. and minority groups.

  253. They knew that the apostles

  254. did not gain riches

  255. or political power

  256. for following Jesus.

  257. They knew that they were impoverished

  258. and they mocked them for it.

  259. In fact,

  260. far from seeking material gain

  261. for their beliefs,

  262. the apostles and authors

  263. of the New Testament,

  264. they knowingly risked

  265. persecution,

  266. humiliation,

  267. scorn,

  268. shame,

  269. and even death.

  270. And indeed,

  271. many of them

  272. were executed

  273. for their faith in Jesus.

  274. And all of them

  275. were persecuted

  276. and even tortured.

  277. But when the authorities

  278. warned them

  279. to stop preaching

  280. in the name of Jesus

  281. and threaten them

  282. with punishment,

  283. the book of Acts says

  284. that they replied,

  285. we cannot but speak

  286. of what we have seen

  287. and heard.

  288. Despite all these threats,

  289. they still continued

  290. to proclaim

  291. that Jesus was resurrected.

  292. And just look at

  293. the outcome of their lives.

  294. Peter was executed.

  295. Paul was executed.

  296. John was exiled

  297. as a prisoner

  298. to the island of Patmos.

  299. James,

  300. the brother of John,

  301. was beheaded.

  302. Matthew was executed.

  303. Thaddeus was executed.

  304. Nathanael was executed.

  305. James,

  306. the brother of Jesus,

  307. was executed.

  308. We all have good historical data

  309. that points to these facts.

  310. And more than this,

  311. we have evidence

  312. that many other early Christians

  313. suffered the same fate.

  314. And the fact

  315. that the apostles

  316. were terribly persecuted

  317. for their belief

  318. in the resurrection of Jesus

  319. is so indisputable

  320. it's so beyond question

  321. that again,

  322. even those anti-Christian sources

  323. agree with this.

  324. They tell us this.

  325. They tell us

  326. that the apostles

  327. were persecuted

  328. and that they were executed.

  329. We see this,

  330. for example,

  331. in the Jewish Talmud

  332. and the Jewish historian Josephus

  333. which claimed that

  334. Matthew and Thaddeus

  335. and Nathanael

  336. and James were executed.

  337. The Roman historian Tacitus

  338. tells us

  339. of a persecution

  340. of Christians in Rome

  341. under Emperor Nero

  342. that sounds exactly like

  343. the circumstances

  344. under which Peter

  345. and perhaps also Paul

  346. were executed.

  347. But despite such great persecution,

  348. the apostles and eyewitnesses

  349. continued to maintain

  350. that Jesus

  351. really was resurrected.

  352. These sufferings

  353. are not something

  354. that people

  355. would endure

  356. for a claim

  357. that they knew

  358. was a lie.

  359. Instead,

  360. it seems far more likely

  361. that the apostles

  362. were simply

  363. telling the truth.

  364. So for the first,

  365. the first reason

  366. that we can trust

  367. the eyewitnesses

  368. is because they

  369. didn't have worldly motives

  370. to lie.

  371. They had nothing

  372. to gain from it.

  373. And the second reason

  374. is because they had

  375. everything to lose.

  376. And indeed,

  377. they were persecuted

  378. for what they believed.

  379. But they continued

  380. to preach.

  381. And this trustworthy

  382. character of the apostles

  383. was so steadfast

  384. that they passed it down

  385. to their own disciples.

  386. Just like Jesus,

  387. the apostles

  388. went on to have

  389. disciples of their own.

  390. And when we examine

  391. the character of these men,

  392. these followers

  393. of the apostles,

  394. we see that they also

  395. conducted themselves

  396. in the same way

  397. as Jesus

  398. and the apostles did.

  399. They also suffered

  400. and were martyred

  401. for their faith in Jesus.

  402. So let me give you

  403. some examples here.

  404. We have Ignatius of Antioch,

  405. Polycarp of Smyrna.

  406. These both were

  407. disciples of the apostles.

  408. We both have their writings

  409. that remain for us to read

  410. and both of them

  411. were executed

  412. for their faith in Jesus.

  413. If we look at Ignatius

  414. specifically,

  415. we see that he was

  416. a disciple of Peter

  417. and in the year 107 AD,

  418. he was awaiting

  419. his execution

  420. for being a Christian

  421. and during this time

  422. he wrote a letter.

  423. And in this letter,

  424. he talks about Peter

  425. witnessing the resurrection

  426. of Jesus

  427. and what he says

  428. sums up exactly

  429. what I've been saying.

  430. This is what he writes.

  431. He says,

  432. For Jesus suffered

  433. all these things

  434. for our sakes

  435. in order that we might be saved.

  436. And he truly suffered

  437. just as he truly raised himself,

  438. not as unbelievers say.

  439. For I know and believe

  440. that he was in the flesh

  441. even after the resurrection.

  442. And when he came to Peter

  443. and those with him,

  444. he said to him,

  445. Take hold of me

  446. and handle me

  447. and see that I am not

  448. a disembodied spirit.

  449. And immediately,

  450. they touched him

  451. and believed,

  452. being closely united

  453. with his flesh and blood.

  454. And for this reason,

  455. they too despised death.

  456. Indeed, they proved

  457. to be greater than death.

  458. And after his resurrection,

  459. he ate and drank with them

  460. like one who is composed of flesh,

  461. although spiritually

  462. he was united with the Father.

  463. Here, Ignatius proclaims

  464. the resurrection of Jesus.

  465. He says that he knows

  466. Jesus appeared to Peter

  467. and for this reason,

  468. Peter and the apostles

  469. despised death.

  470. Why did they do this?

  471. Because they had seen

  472. the one who had conquered death

  473. and they knew death

  474. had power over them no longer.

  475. And Ignatius joyfully

  476. testifies to this

  477. while he is condemned

  478. to die the same fate.

  479. What a powerful testimony.

  480. Consider this.

  481. The New Testament

  482. was not written

  483. by a bunch of rich,

  484. powerful,

  485. highly educated people

  486. who gained wealth

  487. and influence

  488. and fame and power

  489. from their preaching.

  490. Instead,

  491. the New Testament

  492. was written by a group

  493. of carpenters,

  494. of fishermen,

  495. of tent makers

  496. and prisoners.

  497. And they were persecuted

  498. and tortured

  499. and unjustly accused.

  500. These eyewitnesses of Jesus

  501. did not seek money

  502. or power

  503. like we would expect

  504. someone who is making

  505. something up.

  506. Instead,

  507. they gained suffering.

  508. But so devoted

  509. and committed

  510. were they to Jesus' resurrection

  511. that they preached it

  512. despite the risk

  513. and even their own disciples

  514. did the same.

  515. They knew that Jesus

  516. had defeated death

  517. and they were unafraid

  518. of it.

  519. And these apostles

  520. were the one

  521. who brought

  522. our New Testament

  523. and its message

  524. of love and salvation

  525. into our dark world.

  526. And they did it

  527. at great cost.

  528. So let me summarize.

  529. Can we trust

  530. that the New Testament

  531. is accurate?

  532. Yes, we can.

  533. It is based

  534. on eyewitness testimony

  535. of the apostles,

  536. not on rumor

  537. or report.

  538. And these eyewitnesses

  539. are trustworthy

  540. because they did not

  541. gain anything materially

  542. from their claims.

  543. They had no motive

  544. to lie about the resurrection.

  545. Rather, they risked

  546. persecution and death.

  547. And in fact,

  548. their own disciples

  549. went on to do

  550. the very same thing as well.

  551. And these points

  552. are so beyond question

  553. that even ancient

  554. non-Christian sources

  555. admit to many

  556. of these things.

  557. But you know,

  558. so far I've been talking

  559. about how the New Testament

  560. writers were in a position

  561. to know the facts

  562. about Jesus

  563. because they wrote

  564. with the backing

  565. of eyewitness testimony.

  566. I've shown

  567. why I think

  568. we can trust them,

  569. why their character

  570. was trustworthy,

  571. why what they were saying

  572. is true.

  573. But let's not stop here.

  574. Let's see if we can test

  575. the reliability

  576. of the eyewitnesses

  577. in other ways.

  578. Let's not just trust

  579. the character and motives

  580. of the eyewitnesses.

  581. Let's see if we can

  582. test their truthfulness

  583. and their accuracy

  584. a little more scientifically.

  585. As you all know,

  586. eyewitnesses might still

  587. have accidentally

  588. put in false information.

  589. They might have gotten

  590. carried away

  591. in their great passion

  592. and then exaggerated things.

  593. They might have even

  594. convinced themselves

  595. that something was true

  596. when it actually wasn't.

  597. Even if they were sincere,

  598. they may still have been

  599. inaccurate.

  600. We all know honest people

  601. who make wrong statements.

  602. So let's do a more

  603. thorough investigation here.

  604. Let's see

  605. if the New Testament

  606. holds up to

  607. good old-fashioned

  608. brass tacks,

  609. nuts and bolts,

  610. historical scrutiny.

  611. Let's forget about

  612. character and motives.

  613. And this is how

  614. we're going to do this.

  615. Throughout the New Testament,

  616. the authors make

  617. numerous historical claims.

  618. And we can check

  619. these claims

  620. against the historical record

  621. to see

  622. if what they say

  623. is true.

  624. We can double-check

  625. and cross-check

  626. the claims of the New Testament

  627. with what we know

  628. from history

  629. and see how they line up.

  630. So when the New Testament

  631. mentions a person

  632. or a place

  633. or an event,

  634. we can check that claim

  635. against the historical record

  636. and see if the New Testament

  637. is accurate.

  638. And when we do this,

  639. we find that the New Testament

  640. authors were indeed accurate

  641. and that they were not

  642. in the habit

  643. of making up information.

  644. Let me show you

  645. what I mean.

  646. The New Testament authors

  647. report the existence

  648. of several Roman emperors,

  649. for example.

  650. And we know

  651. from various

  652. historical sources

  653. that they correctly

  654. identify them

  655. in their proper

  656. historical context.

  657. And this comes

  658. from various lines

  659. of evidence

  660. that we have

  661. like historical reports,

  662. the archaeological record,

  663. and from coins.

  664. You can see an example

  665. on the screen.

  666. So I just want to walk you

  667. through this

  668. a little bit.

  669. So here we've got

  670. Emperor Augustus.

  671. Luke talks about him.

  672. We know from history

  673. Luke totally identifies him properly.

  674. Same thing with

  675. Emperor Tiberius.

  676. Luke mentions him.

  677. Boom.

  678. He gets him right.

  679. Same thing with

  680. Emperor Claudius.

  681. In Acts 18,

  682. Luke gets him right.

  683. Now I'm giving some coins

  684. as examples of these folks.

  685. We have lots of other evidence,

  686. of course,

  687. about these guys.

  688. But we can keep on going here.

  689. Herod the Great.

  690. Matthew talks about him

  691. in Chapter 2.

  692. He gets it right.

  693. Herod Archelaus.

  694. Matthew talks about him as well.

  695. Also gets him right.

  696. And we can just keep going.

  697. King Herod had lots of sons.

  698. He called them all Herod.

  699. Herod Philip,

  700. we know him.

  701. Herod Antipas,

  702. we know him.

  703. Herod Agrippa I,

  704. Acts gets him right.

  705. Herod Agrippa II,

  706. Acts gets him right.

  707. Here's another king,

  708. Arathos IV.

  709. He's mentioned in the book of Acts.

  710. He's mentioned in 2 Corinthians.

  711. New Testament gets him right.

  712. Here we've got Sergius Paulus.

  713. This is the guy who converted

  714. under the Apostle Paul's preaching.

  715. This is the reason why Paul is called Paul.

  716. Because of this guy.

  717. He changed his name because of this guy.

  718. And we have an inscription

  719. that talks about him.

  720. He's relatively unknown,

  721. less unknown than the other guys

  722. I've mentioned.

  723. The New Testament gets him right

  724. in his proper historical context.

  725. Pontius Pilate,

  726. you know he's mentioned many times

  727. in the New Testament.

  728. He's the one who supervised

  729. the trial of Jesus

  730. and his execution.

  731. And we know him

  732. from many historical references.

  733. We also know him

  734. from this very famous inscription

  735. that mentions his name.

  736. But let's do

  737. some more challenging analysis.

  738. It's good that the New Testament

  739. get these folks right.

  740. But let's see

  741. what the New Testament authors do

  742. with other lesser known figures

  743. whom someone would likely

  744. only know about

  745. if they were very well informed.

  746. The New Testament speaks

  747. about lots and lots of people.

  748. I've got about 17 names on here.

  749. Some of these

  750. you probably recognize.

  751. Maybe some of them you don't.

  752. They're very obscure.

  753. People like Bernice,

  754. Drusilla in the Book of Acts,

  755. Judas the Galilean,

  756. Festus, Felix, Salome,

  757. Annas, Ananias.

  758. We can just keep going down this list.

  759. Gamaliel, Herodias,

  760. John the Baptist,

  761. even some of the apostles.

  762. James, the brother of Jesus,

  763. Matthew, Nicodemus,

  764. Nathaniel, Thaddeus.

  765. These are relatively minor figures.

  766. And when we check

  767. the historical record,

  768. we see that every single one

  769. of these folks

  770. is mentioned

  771. outside the Bible

  772. by non-Christian sources.

  773. And the New Testament

  774. correctly places them

  775. in their proper

  776. historical context.

  777. The New Testament

  778. is even correct

  779. about a very minor person

  780. named Erastus

  781. whom I've got

  782. mentioned below.

  783. He lived in Corinth.

  784. And if you go to Corinth today,

  785. you can still see

  786. the Erastus inscription

  787. in the pavement right there.

  788. He was a minister

  789. of public works there.

  790. And you can see

  791. some of the bricks

  792. that he laid

  793. right in the first century

  794. when Paul was in Corinth.

  795. A person in the ancient world

  796. wouldn't know

  797. about many of these figures

  798. unless they were eyewitnesses

  799. or had access

  800. to reliable testimony.

  801. But we can test

  802. the accuracy

  803. of the New Testament authors

  804. in other ways as well.

  805. We've been looking

  806. at their references

  807. to people.

  808. We can look at

  809. their geographic references.

  810. So for example,

  811. this map shows

  812. dozens of locations

  813. mentioned in the New Testament.

  814. And the New Testament

  815. correctly places

  816. every single one of these.

  817. It's even correct

  818. about little tiny villages

  819. around Jerusalem.

  820. I know the font here

  821. is really small,

  822. but villages like

  823. Emmaus, Arimathea,

  824. Bethphaga, Bethany, Bethlehem.

  825. The New Testament

  826. is right about that.

  827. The New Testament

  828. is even right

  829. about tiny fishing villages

  830. around the Sea of Galilee.

  831. You'll recognize

  832. some of these names.

  833. Capernaum,

  834. Chorazin, Bethsaida.

  835. These places

  836. are extremely obscure.

  837. Remember back then,

  838. folks didn't have maps

  839. or atlases

  840. to document places like this.

  841. The only way to know

  842. about an insignificant

  843. little fishing village

  844. in the backwaters

  845. of Galilee

  846. was if you were there

  847. or you knew someone

  848. who was.

  849. And the New Testament

  850. gets them right.

  851. But you know,

  852. but we can go even smaller.

  853. The Gospel of John

  854. talks about Jacob's well

  855. in John chapter 4.

    John 4 chapter mention

  856. It's still there today.

  857. The Gospel of John

  858. talks about the pool of Siloam.

  859. It's still there today

  860. in Jerusalem.

  861. You can go and see it.

  862. The Gospel of John

  863. mentions stone water jars.

  864. Now, this is kind of strange.

  865. Water jars usually

  866. are made of clay, right?

  867. It's a little weird

  868. that he would mention

  869. strange stone water jars,

  870. but apparently

  871. this wasn't out of the ordinary

  872. in first century Judea

  873. because here you go.

  874. They still have them around.

  875. These stone water jars

  876. that are very large,

  877. just like John says,

  878. hold many gallons.

  879. Now, we could continue

  880. doing this for hours

  881. about New Testament events

  882. and customs,

  883. contemporary beliefs,

  884. various historical phenomenon,

  885. but you guys get the point.

  886. When the New Testament

  887. makes historical claims,

  888. we're able to verify

  889. them successfully.

  890. And this means

  891. that the authors

  892. were not in the habit

  893. of making up information.

  894. It also implies

  895. that the original

  896. New Testament documents

  897. must have been

  898. well preserved

  899. because if later scribes

  900. were in the habit

  901. of messing about

  902. with the manuscripts,

  903. then these historical claims

  904. would have tended

  905. to have been altered

  906. and therefore

  907. would have tended

  908. to not be so precise.

  909. But they are.

  910. Now, it must be said

  911. that there are

  912. a handful of instances

  913. where the historical claims

  914. in the New Testament

  915. seem to be contradicted

  916. by what we know

  917. from other sources.

  918. I would say

  919. that the most serious

  920. example of this

  921. is with Theodos,

  922. the Galilean,

  923. whom Luke mentions

  924. in Acts chapter 5.

    Acts 5 chapter mention

  925. He dates Theodos

  926. to before 39 AD.

  927. The problem with this

  928. is that the ancient

  929. Jewish historian Josephus

  930. talks about this guy

  931. and he dates him

  932. several decades later.

  933. Straight up contradiction,

  934. at least apparently.

  935. But rather, I think,

  936. than concluding

  937. that Luke

  938. and the New Testament

  939. are wrong,

  940. I would caution us

  941. to withhold judgment,

  942. given how accurate

  943. the New Testament

  944. is elsewhere.

  945. Perhaps there was

  946. a second Theodos.

  947. Perhaps Josephus

  948. was the one

  949. who was wrong

  950. and Luke

  951. was the one

  952. who was right.

  953. In fact,

  954. since the advent

  955. of modern scholarship,

  956. there have always been

  957. historical claims

  958. in the New Testament

  959. that skeptical scholars

  960. dismissed as wrong

  961. or made up

  962. or otherwise fictitious.

  963. They would seize

  964. on these things

  965. and argue

  966. that the New Testament

  967. authors were

  968. historically incorrect,

  969. that they were

  970. fabricating information

  971. and that they were

  972. untrustworthy.

  973. But time and again,

  974. later discoveries

  975. have proved

  976. the New Testament

  977. right

  978. and these skeptical

  979. scholars wrong.

  980. Let me give you

  981. some examples.

  982. Back in the day,

  983. certain scholars

  984. believed that Nicodemus,

  985. who came to Jesus

  986. at night in the Gospel

  987. of John

  988. and helped bury him,

  989. skeptical scholars

  990. believed that he was

  991. quote,

  992. fabricated by John

  993. and made up

  994. to serve some purpose.

  995. Now, John gives

  996. four data points

  997. about Nicodemus.

  998. He tells us he was

  999. a member of the ruling class.

  1000. He was a Pharisee.

  1001. He was a teacher

  1002. of the law

  1003. and he was very wealthy.

  1004. And certain scholars

  1005. heard these skeptical

  1006. claims and they started

  1007. doing some investigation

  1008. and they started realizing

  1009. that according to

  1010. ancient Jewish literature,

  1011. there was in fact

  1012. a rich ruling family

  1013. in Jerusalem

  1014. that did have Pharisees

  1015. and teachers of the law

  1016. in it.

  1017. And do you know

  1018. what name was popular

  1019. for men in that family?

  1020. Nicodemus.

  1021. It also appears

  1022. that the Jewish

  1023. Babylonian Talmud

  1024. mentions Nicodemus'

  1025. execution as a disciple

  1026. of Jesus.

  1027. It seems like it uses

  1028. one of his nicknames

  1029. that we know about

  1030. from these ancient

  1031. Jewish sources.

  1032. Now, no scholar

  1033. can truthfully claim

  1034. that Nicodemus

  1035. never existed.

  1036. And it seems that

  1037. John was right after all.

  1038. But let me give you

  1039. more examples.

  1040. There's a pool of Bethesda

  1041. that's mentioned

  1042. in John chapter 5.

    John 5 chapter mention

  1043. John says it had

  1044. five porticos

  1045. or overhanging porches,

  1046. which is weird.

  1047. Pools usually have

  1048. four sides, you know,

  1049. five-sided pool.

  1050. Kind of strange.

  1051. For a long while,

  1052. scholars accused John

  1053. of making this up.

  1054. We had no record

  1055. of the pool of Bethesda.

  1056. They said the five porches

  1057. were fictitiously crafted

  1058. by John

  1059. to represent

  1060. the five stratas

  1061. of Jewish society

  1062. or the five books of Moses

  1063. or some nonsense like that.

  1064. But then in 1948,

  1065. we found this.

  1066. And now every scholar admits

  1067. that the pool of Bethesda

  1068. really does exist

  1069. and it had five sides

  1070. with five porches.

  1071. John was right.

  1072. And we can keep going.

  1073. Scholars claim

  1074. that Luke's chronology

  1075. in the book of Acts

  1076. was, quote,

  1077. hopeless,

  1078. that he made it up,

  1079. especially regarding

  1080. Paul's trial

  1081. before a guy named Galio

  1082. in the book of Acts,

    Acts 18 chapter mention

  1083. chapter 18.

  1084. Other, more faithful scholars

  1085. said, no, no, no.

  1086. We think Luke's right.

  1087. We think Luke probably

  1088. based this between

  1089. 51 and 54 AD.

  1090. But they were dismissed.

  1091. And then in 1913,

  1092. we found this,

  1093. which mentions Galio

  1094. and precisely dates him

  1095. to 51 or 52 AD,

  1096. exactly as Luke claimed.

  1097. I can keep going.

  1098. Skeptical scholars

  1099. also accused Luke

  1100. of making up the census

  1101. in Luke chapter 2.

    Luke 2 chapter mention

  1102. This is when Mary

  1103. and Joseph

  1104. went to Bethlehem

  1105. to be registered

  1106. for Jesus' birth.

  1107. We hear about this

  1108. every Christmas.

  1109. Our historical sources

  1110. tell us

  1111. that this census

  1112. actually happened

  1113. years later.

  1114. Skeptical scholars

  1115. said Luke was wrong.

  1116. But then we found

  1117. this inscription,

  1118. which was shown

  1119. to speak about

  1120. not one census,

  1121. but several censuses.

  1122. And Luke

  1123. was vindicated.

  1124. Skeptical scholars

  1125. also questioned Luke

  1126. about the governor

  1127. Quirinius,

  1128. who oversaw the census.

  1129. The ancient historian,

  1130. Josephus,

  1131. placed his governorship

  1132. years later than Luke.

  1133. Some scholars

  1134. tried to solve this

  1135. by hypothesizing

  1136. maybe Quirinius

  1137. was governor

  1138. more than once.

  1139. But this seemed

  1140. like special pleading

  1141. to everyone.

  1142. But then we found

  1143. this inscription,

  1144. and then this one,

  1145. and then this one.

  1146. And they clearly say

  1147. that Quirinius

  1148. was governor

  1149. more than once.

  1150. And Luke

  1151. was right.

  1152. We can say

  1153. the same thing

  1154. about Luke's

  1155. reference

  1156. to Lysanius

  1157. in Luke chapter 3.

    Luke 3 chapter mention

  1158. This is Lysanius

  1159. the Tetrarch.

  1160. Scholars said

  1161. that for many years

  1162. Luke contradicted

  1163. the historical record.

  1164. Lysanius the Tetrarch.

  1165. It's an unusual name.

  1166. And there was only

  1167. one of them.

  1168. And he lived

  1169. 50 or 60 years

  1170. after Luke

  1171. says he did.

  1172. Some faithful scholars

  1173. suggested

  1174. that maybe

  1175. there was more

  1176. than one Lysanius

  1177. the Tetrarch.

  1178. But they were dismissed.

  1179. And then we found this

  1180. in 1912.

  1181. And it clearly says,

  1182. I've got it highlighted

  1183. in red,

  1184. Lysanius the Tetrarch.

  1185. And now we know

  1186. there was more

  1187. than one Lysanius

  1188. the Tetrarch.

  1189. Luke was right

  1190. again.

  1191. So,

  1192. what a lucky guy.

  1193. It keeps coming up true.

  1194. It keeps coming up Luke

  1195. every time.

  1196. These instances

  1197. teach us

  1198. that it's never

  1199. wise to bet

  1200. against the historical

  1201. reliability

  1202. of the authors

  1203. of the New Testament.

  1204. We may find

  1205. evidence yet

  1206. that Luke was right

  1207. about that pesky

  1208. Theutis and Josephus

  1209. was wrong.

  1210. Or that both

  1211. of them were right

  1212. and there were

  1213. two different figures

  1214. of the same name.

  1215. After all,

  1216. it's happened before,

  1217. hasn't it?

  1218. But if not,

  1219. would this one

  1220. minor error

  1221. in chronology

  1222. really undermine

  1223. the overall

  1224. credibility

  1225. of the New Testament

  1226. given how

  1227. historically reliable

  1228. it is

  1229. with its other claims?

  1230. Especially

  1231. the important ones.

  1232. Indeed,

  1233. the historical

  1234. reliability

  1235. of the New Testament

  1236. is so strong

  1237. that it gets better

  1238. every year.

  1239. Just last year,

  1240. we found a ring

  1241. inscribed with the name

  1242. Pontius Pilate

  1243. and dating

  1244. to first century

  1245. Jerusalem.

  1246. And once again,

  1247. this supports

  1248. the New Testament

  1249. narrative

  1250. by bolstering

  1251. its reliability.

  1252. And so,

  1253. with the passing years,

  1254. we keep finding stuff

  1255. and it keeps coming up

  1256. New Testament

  1257. every time.

  1258. So let me summarize.

  1259. We can be sure

  1260. that the New Testament

  1261. is accurate and true

  1262. because it is based

  1263. off of eyewitness testimony.

  1264. And those eyewitnesses

  1265. were reliable

  1266. because they did not

  1267. gain anything

  1268. from their claims.

  1269. Therefore,

  1270. they didn't have

  1271. a motive to lie.

  1272. In fact,

  1273. they gained suffering

  1274. and persecution

  1275. because of the claim

  1276. of the resurrection

  1277. of Jesus.

  1278. And yet,

  1279. they persisted

  1280. in maintaining

  1281. that Jesus actually

  1282. was resurrected.

  1283. And furthermore,

  1284. their disciples

  1285. suffered the same fate

  1286. as them

  1287. and even non-Christians

  1288. admit to much of this.

  1289. And lastly,

  1290. as we've just seen,

  1291. we can historically

  1292. verify dozens,

  1293. if not hundreds,

  1294. of their claims

  1295. showing that the authors

  1296. of the New Testament

  1297. were not in the habit

  1298. of making up information

  1299. but were quite accurate

  1300. in their reports.

  1301. But let's do better

  1302. than this.

  1303. All I've been doing

  1304. so far is showing

  1305. that the New Testament

  1306. authors made accurate claims

  1307. about mundane,

  1308. normal,

  1309. everyday events

  1310. and activities.

  1311. But mundane evidence

  1312. gives only so much reason

  1313. for believing

  1314. super mundane things.

  1315. The New Testament

  1316. is right regarding

  1317. normal, natural,

  1318. everyday claims.

  1319. But what about

  1320. supernatural claims?

  1321. We want extraordinary

  1322. evidence for

  1323. extraordinary claims.

  1324. Can we, I wonder,

  1325. can we corroborate

  1326. the miracles

  1327. attributed to Jesus

  1328. in the New Testament?

  1329. Yes, we can.

  1330. This is because

  1331. the miracles of Jesus

  1332. were so indisputable.

  1333. They were so beyond doubt

  1334. that non-Christians

  1335. and even anti-Christians

  1336. admitted

  1337. that Jesus

  1338. and his disciples

  1339. worked miracles.

  1340. Let me show you

  1341. what I mean

  1342. and we're just going

  1343. to go down

  1344. through the centuries.

  1345. We're going to start

  1346. around 200 or 400 A.D.

  1347. with the Jewish Talmud.

  1348. This is a collection

  1349. of Jewish traditions

  1350. and when you go

  1351. through the pages

  1352. and find a reference

  1353. to Jesus,

  1354. there's a story

  1355. where they admit

  1356. that a guy named James,

  1357. a disciple of Jesus,

  1358. could perform

  1359. miraculous healing

  1360. in Jesus' name.

  1361. And then we go to

  1362. a little earlier,

  1363. Porphyry,

  1364. anti-Christian writer

  1365. around the year 300.

  1366. I've mentioned him

  1367. to you before.

  1368. He called for Christians

  1369. to be persecuted.

  1370. He wrote an entire book

  1371. against them.

  1372. But in his writings,

  1373. he also admitted

  1374. that Jesus worked wonders,

  1375. just like the Bible says.

  1376. Same thing with Heracles.

  1377. He was a powerful man

  1378. in the Roman Empire.

  1379. He was a governor.

  1380. He called for Christians

  1381. to be persecuted.

  1382. As a governor,

  1383. he actually persecuted Christians

  1384. and had them put to death.

  1385. He, like Porphyry,

  1386. also wrote a book

  1387. against the Christians.

  1388. And in this,

  1389. just like Porphyry,

  1390. he too admitted

  1391. that Jesus worked miracles.

  1392. Let's keep going.

  1393. The Tosefza,

  1394. an earlier manual

  1395. of Jewish tradition,

  1396. and it says a very similar thing

  1397. as the Jewish Talmud.

  1398. It admits that Jesus' disciples

  1399. could heal in his name,

  1400. but it cautions Jews

  1401. not to be persuaded by them.

  1402. The Oracle of Hecate,

  1403. a pagan oracle

  1404. in the 200s,

  1405. says that Jesus was immortal

  1406. around the year 175.

  1407. Celsus,

  1408. an anti-Christian writer,

  1409. he called for Christians

  1410. to be persecuted,

  1411. and he still acknowledged

  1412. that Jesus worked wonders

  1413. and that early Christians

  1414. had authority over demons.

  1415. Phlegon,

  1416. around the year 125,

  1417. he reports

  1418. an unexpected darkness

  1419. around the time

  1420. of Jesus' death,

  1421. as well as an earthquake,

  1422. just like the Gospels say.

  1423. Phlegon also adds

  1424. that Jesus could correctly

  1425. predict the future.

  1426. And Josephus,

  1427. we've seen him

  1428. earlier in this talk,

  1429. around the year 90 or 95,

  1430. he's a Jewish historian

  1431. writing in the first century,

  1432. and he says that

  1433. Jesus worked miracles.

  1434. Paradoxa, he calls them.

  1435. A first century Jewish historian

  1436. admits this.

  1437. Thalas,

  1438. sometimes between 50 and 100,

  1439. we don't really know his dates,

  1440. the Greek writer Thalas

  1441. reports that the sun grew dark,

  1442. and he seemed to have

  1443. placed this event

  1444. at the time of Jesus' crucifixion,

  1445. just like the Gospels claim.

  1446. But we're not done yet.

  1447. We have to talk about

  1448. one of the greatest critics

  1449. of Christianity

  1450. and one of the earliest.

  1451. In 35 AD,

  1452. a persecutor of Christians

  1453. named Saul of Tarsus

  1454. was trying to destroy

  1455. the Christian faith,

  1456. and he tells us

  1457. in his own words

  1458. that the risen Jesus

  1459. appeared to him

  1460. and demonstrated

  1461. his miraculous powers.

  1462. And as you know,

  1463. after this,

  1464. Saul of Tarsus

  1465. changed his name

  1466. to Paul.

  1467. And he went on

  1468. to write many of the letters

  1469. of the New Testament

  1470. where he speaks

  1471. of how he was

  1472. a persecutor of Christians,

  1473. how he didn't believe,

  1474. and then he witnessed

  1475. the resurrected Jesus.

  1476. And after many years

  1477. of ministry,

  1478. he was executed

  1479. for his faith,

  1480. and we could say

  1481. similar things

  1482. about other ancient skeptics

  1483. like James and Jude,

  1484. none of whom

  1485. believed in Jesus,

  1486. but were convinced

  1487. when he appeared to them.

  1488. And they also went on

  1489. to write letters

  1490. of the New Testament.

  1491. This is extraordinary.

  1492. Remember that ancient authors

  1493. were more than capable

  1494. of denying miracles.

  1495. We see this,

  1496. for instance,

  1497. with Cicero,

  1498. we see this with the Epicureans,

  1499. but Jesus' miracles

  1500. were so indisputable

  1501. and beyond question

  1502. that non-Christian sources

  1503. and even anti-Christian sources

  1504. admitted that they occurred.

  1505. And some of these folks

  1506. became Christians themselves.

  1507. So can we trust

  1508. that the New Testament

  1509. is accurate and true?

  1510. Yes, we can.

  1511. It's based off

  1512. of eyewitness testimony.

  1513. The eyewitnesses

  1514. did not gain anything.

  1515. In fact,

  1516. they risked persecution.

  1517. Their disciples

  1518. suffered the same.

  1519. And their historical claims

  1520. can be verified.

  1521. And we can even verify

  1522. their miraculous claims.

  1523. And on top of this,

  1524. non-Christians admit

  1525. to most of these facts,

  1526. these ancient non-Christians.

  1527. But if all this

  1528. isn't enough for you,

  1529. then you can test

  1530. the authenticity

  1531. of Jesus' miraculous powers

  1532. right now.

  1533. All you have to do

  1534. is look around the world

  1535. and see what's going on.

  1536. This is because

  1537. the prophecies of Jesus

  1538. contained in the New Testament

  1539. are being remarkably

  1540. and miraculously

  1541. fulfilled among us.

  1542. If we go to Matthew 24,

  1543. Jesus says that

  1544. his gospel

  1545. will be preached

  1546. to the whole world

  1547. as a testimony

  1548. to all nations.

  1549. And if we look

  1550. at our world today,

  1551. we see that there is

  1552. no other message on earth

  1553. that has reached

  1554. so many people,

  1555. so many nations,

  1556. so many countries.

  1557. There's no message

  1558. except that message

  1559. of Jesus

  1560. that has been translated

  1561. into so many languages,

  1562. been adopted

  1563. by so many cultures,

  1564. and changed

  1565. so many lives.

  1566. Jesus' prophecy

  1567. is being fulfilled.

  1568. And all of you

  1569. are testimonies

  1570. to this.

  1571. And we all come

  1572. from all over the world.

  1573. Keep in mind

  1574. that Jesus

  1575. was not famous.

  1576. He was not powerful

  1577. or popular

  1578. or influential

  1579. when he predicted

  1580. these things.

  1581. He was a member

  1582. of the underclass.

  1583. He was a carpenter

  1584. from a backwater

  1585. of Galilee.

  1586. And he predicted

  1587. that his message

  1588. would go to the nations,

  1589. would go out to the world,

  1590. and he was right.

  1591. It spread farther

  1592. than any other

  1593. against all odds.

  1594. It's doing it right now.

  1595. And Jesus predicted

  1596. many other things correctly.

  1597. He said that many

  1598. false prophets

  1599. would come in his name.

  1600. Many false Christs

  1601. would come in his name.

  1602. He said that his followers

  1603. would be brought before

  1604. kings and rulers

  1605. and all these things

  1606. have happened

  1607. so many times

  1608. it's beyond counting.

  1609. And Jesus predicted

  1610. all of this

  1611. when he was still

  1612. an obscure carpenter

  1613. from Galilee.

  1614. And he was right

  1615. every time.

  1616. My friends,

  1617. I've been giving you

  1618. reasons why we can trust

  1619. that the New Testament

  1620. is true.

  1621. Why it's trustworthy.

  1622. Why we can believe it.

  1623. And if you're interested,

  1624. I'd be very glad

  1625. to talk with you

  1626. about these matters

  1627. and share my sources

  1628. of information with you.

  1629. But if you're here today

  1630. and you're still wondering

  1631. about this person of Jesus,

  1632. I want to give you

  1633. just one final simple test

  1634. to conduct

  1635. concerning the authenticity

  1636. of Jesus

  1637. and the New Testament.

  1638. And this is a test

  1639. that Jesus himself

  1640. recommends.

  1641. He says this

  1642. in the Gospel of John.

  1643. He says,

  1644. Anyone who chooses

  1645. to do the will of God

  1646. will find out

  1647. whether my teaching

  1648. comes from God

  1649. or whether I speak

  1650. on my own.

  1651. So my friends,

  1652. if you want

  1653. to follow Jesus,

  1654. if you want

  1655. to do God's will,

  1656. Jesus promises

  1657. you'll know,

  1658. he'll let you know

  1659. that he's true

  1660. and that he's worthy

  1661. of your trust.

  1662. Let's pray together.

  1663. Father in heaven,

  1664. we thank you

  1665. for your New Testament.

  1666. We thank you

  1667. for the people

  1668. who wrote it,

  1669. your disciples,

  1670. who labored

  1671. and suffered so much

  1672. and did so joyfully

  1673. to bring your message.

  1674. Lord, we pray

  1675. that we'd follow

  1676. their example,

  1677. that we wouldn't seek

  1678. to gain riches

  1679. or power

  1680. by your message.

  1681. We also pray

  1682. that we would be

  1683. increased in our faith,

  1684. that you would magnify

  1685. our faith

  1686. and our trust in you.

  1687. I pray for anyone

  1688. here today

  1689. who is struggling

  1690. with doubts.

  1691. I pray that you would

  1692. speak to them now,

  1693. comfort them,

  1694. reveal yourself to them.

  1695. Lord, I pray

  1696. for the church service

  1697. we're about

  1698. to fellowship

  1699. and listen to.

  1700. I pray that you'd

  1701. send your spirit

  1702. there mightily.

  1703. And we pray all this

  1704. in the mighty name

  1705. of Jesus.

  1706. Amen.

  1707. Amen.

  1708. I think we have

  1709. some time for questions

  1710. if anybody has questions.

  1711. Ben.

  1712. Those who agree

  1713. that miracles were performed

  1714. but deny Christ,

  1715. how do they reconcile it?

  1716. Great.

  1717. So the question is,

  1718. yeah, all these people

  1719. talk about the miracles

  1720. of Jesus

  1721. but they still deny Christ.

  1722. How does that make sense?

  1723. Well, they do the same things

  1724. that the Jewish leaders

  1725. in the Gospels do.

  1726. They say that he did this

  1727. by demons,

  1728. with magic.

  1729. That in the ancient world,

  1730. magic was something

  1731. that you had supernatural power

  1732. but you got it

  1733. through the help of demons.

  1734. And so they said

  1735. the same things.

  1736. That yeah, yeah, yeah,

  1737. he did this

  1738. but he used demons.

  1739. And Christians

  1740. would reply to this.

  1741. They would say like,

  1742. but someone who repents

  1743. from their sins,

  1744. who preaches righteousness,

  1745. they don't work with demons.

  1746. Jesus is preaching

  1747. to love God,

  1748. to do all these things.

  1749. And the response

  1750. by the ancient critics

  1751. was usually,

  1752. I mentioned some of them,

  1753. is that they would say,

  1754. yeah, but Jesus

  1755. and the apostles

  1756. were poor.

  1757. They were laborers.

  1758. They invited women

  1759. into their society.

  1760. They liked slaves.

  1761. That's ridiculous.

  1762. We shouldn't do that.

  1763. Again and again,

  1764. you see Celsus,

  1765. Julian say all these things.

  1766. So it's ironic to us

  1767. because what they criticized

  1768. the early Christians for

  1769. is what we boast about.

  1770. that they loved the poor.

  1771. They loved slaves.

  1772. They loved the underclasses.

  1773. But this was used by critics

  1774. as evidence

  1775. that they didn't know

  1776. what they were talking about.

  1777. They weren't rich.

  1778. They weren't powerful.

  1779. They weren't educated.

  1780. Can you go back

  1781. to the picture

  1782. of the full of that?

  1783. Yeah, that's awesome.

  1784. Okay, yeah, sure.

  1785. I don't believe you

  1786. until I see it.

  1787. I have to say that,

  1788. here we go,

  1789. that this picture doesn't,

  1790. it doesn't encompass

  1791. everything that's there.

  1792. It's part of an archaeological,

  1793. an archaeological dig

  1794. that happened.

  1795. I have not been able

  1796. to find a picture

  1797. that clearly shows

  1798. all five places.

  1799. What I do know

  1800. is that apparently

  1801. all scholars,

  1802. even skeptical scholars,

  1803. accept this now.

  1804. Often the archaeological record

  1805. takes a lot of fine,

  1806. a fine-drained analysis

  1807. to tell,

  1808. like for instance,

  1809. they can probably find

  1810. the foundations

  1811. of these porches

  1812. and find how they've crumbled.

  1813. So you won't be able

  1814. to find them standing there today.

  1815. Is this like from a helicopter

  1816. or something?

  1817. I can't tell.

  1818. It's looking down.

  1819. So over the centuries,

  1820. people paved over this

  1821. again and again and again.

  1822. And so this stuff

  1823. on the sides,

  1824. I'm not,

  1825. I would imagine,

  1826. is later material.

  1827. That's what happens

  1828. in archaeological digs.

  1829. So when I get earlier,

  1830. you have to go deeper.

  1831. And in this case,

  1832. you have to go so deep

  1833. that you're kind of

  1834. looking down now

  1835. at something that originally

  1836. was on ground level.

  1837. I have,

  1838. there's a very distinguished

  1839. professor.

  1840. He's still at Yale

  1841. and he's a professor

  1842. of the Gospel of John.

  1843. And I heard him not once

  1844. but twice say

  1845. publicly in class

  1846. that he used to think

  1847. that the Gospel of John

  1848. was all myth

  1849. and allegory.

  1850. And he said,

  1851. but then they started

  1852. digging up these pools.

  1853. And he's like,

  1854. and it really

  1855. has made me think.

  1856. And he never completes

  1857. that thought.

  1858. But he said that

  1859. without urging.

  1860. I mean,

  1861. he's just brought it up.

  1862. He's like,

  1863. yeah,

  1864. and they found this stuff.

  1865. So as far as I'm aware,

  1866. no one really disputes

  1867. the Pool of Bethesda.

  1868. There's other things

  1869. I was going to say

  1870. that people do dispute.

  1871. So I didn't mention those things.

  1872. Is that a professor

  1873. of the New Testament?

  1874. Of the New Testament?

  1875. Yeah.

  1876. Yeah.

  1877. Yeah.

  1878. Yeah.

  1879. Any other questions?

  1880. I just wonder,

  1881. it seems like

  1882. the New Testament

  1883. is so accurate.

  1884. Has it been embraced

  1885. as a standard

  1886. to compare other things to yet?

  1887. Or is it kind of

  1888. its nature

  1889. as a belief book

  1890. that they don't know there?

  1891. It seems like

  1892. it would be a great standard

  1893. if it's proven

  1894. to keep this wrong

  1895. with other really

  1896. books that we look to

  1897. as standards.

  1898. Has it become that

  1899. more and more?

  1900. Yeah.

  1901. That's a good question.

  1902. The question's about

  1903. do people use

  1904. the New Testament

  1905. as a source book

  1906. for evaluating

  1907. other historical people?

  1908. I agree.

  1909. And there are,

  1910. you'll find

  1911. a big divide

  1912. in the field

  1913. that New Testament scholars

  1914. that the field

  1915. is very divided.

  1916. They tend to be

  1917. very skeptical

  1918. and so usually

  1919. they fall in one

  1920. of two camps.

  1921. Either they're very skeptical

  1922. or they believe it.

  1923. If you go to archaeologists,

  1924. it's a little more

  1925. like what you're saying

  1926. that they will say,

  1927. oh, we found this.

  1928. This must be,

  1929. you know,

  1930. what was mentioned

  1931. in the New Testament

  1932. or even like,

  1933. we're going to dig here

  1934. because we think

  1935. something might be here.

  1936. They do that

  1937. with the Old Testament too.

  1938. Again,

  1939. but not all archaeologists.

  1940. Some of them

  1941. are very skeptical.

  1942. In terms of Josephus,

  1943. it's very ironic.

  1944. Luke wrote before Josephus.

  1945. We know that he was

  1946. very accurate.

  1947. Josephus wrote later.

  1948. We know that Josephus

  1949. made mistakes in part

  1950. because sometimes

  1951. he'll give the same account

  1952. of the same event

  1953. and contradict himself.

  1954. And, you know,

  1955. you'd think

  1956. if they were in tension,

  1957. scholars would go with Luke.

  1958. He's earlier.

  1959. We know he's very good,

  1960. but many of them don't.

  1961. And I think it's because

  1962. they subconsciously,

  1963. they're like,

  1964. oh, it's the Bible.

  1965. So, it's unfortunate,

  1966. but that's what happens.

  1967. Anything else?

  1968. Are you familiar

  1969. with the associates

  1970. for the biblical research?

  1971. Yeah, I've heard of them.

  1972. Yeah, yeah.

  1973. They're doing a dig in Shiloh.

  1974. I mean,

  1975. it's been going on

  1976. for a few years now.

  1977. And it's just really exciting.

  1978. Yeah.

  1979. For personal interest

  1980. and anybody wants to look that up,

  1981. what they're finding there.

  1982. Yeah, yeah.

  1983. There's digs going on

  1984. all the time.

  1985. And they find stuff.

  1986. I mean,

  1987. that's how they found

  1988. the ring of Pontius Pilate.

  1989. It's in some destruction layer

  1990. when Jerusalem was destroyed

  1991. in year 70.

  1992. It's probably not literally his ring.

  1993. It's probably the ring

  1994. of one of his slaves

  1995. or servants

  1996. that would stamp,

  1997. you know,

  1998. documents with it.

  1999. But it might have been him,

  2000. but it's a testimony

  2001. to his existence.

  2002. And it's ironic

  2003. that when that was found,

  2004. you know,

  2005. people made kind of

  2006. a big deal about it,

  2007. but we knew about Pontius Pilate

  2008. for so long.

  2009. I mean,

  2010. we have all these

  2011. literary records

  2012. from non-Christians

  2013. that talk about him,

  2014. both Jewish and pagan,

  2015. that are from the first century

  2016. and the early second century as well.

  2017. And we have that inscription

  2018. of Pontius Pilate.

  2019. But this just kind of adds to it.

  2020. Anything else?

  2021. I think it might be about time

  2022. to wrap up.

  2023. So next week,

  2024. we're going to talk about

  2025. the canonicity of the New Testament.

  2026. We're going to talk about

  2027. how the New Testament

  2028. was put together.

  2029. So be sure you come for that.

  2030. Thanks.

  2031. Thanks.

  2032. Thanks.

  2033. Thanks.