Sermon
A Firm Foundation 5
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Transcript
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All right, everybody, let's get started.
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Welcome.
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We're talking about the reliability of the New Testament
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in this kind of sub-series of our larger series about Scripture.
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And we're in class two.
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Last week, we talked about the preservation of the New Testament.
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We spoke about how the New Testament has been extraordinarily preserved
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throughout the centuries,
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and thus ensuring that we have access to the original words of the apostles.
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And then this week, today, we're going to be talking about the canonicity of the New Testament.
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And with this, I'll answer questions like,
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who decided what books were in the New Testament?
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And how was the New Testament put together?
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And what about all those false gospels we hear about sometimes?
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Why aren't those in the Bible?
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And then a couple weeks from now,
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we're going to look at the accuracy of the New Testament,
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and we'll talk about how the New Testament is historically reliable,
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how it's true, and how it's trustworthy.
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So that's what we're going to cover today.
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Let's open in prayer together.
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Father in heaven, we thank you for this opportunity to not just study your word,
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but to learn about your word and how you saw fit to assemble it for us.
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Father, we ask you to send your Holy Spirit into this time right now,
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that you'd put him in our hearts to guide us into truth,
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to encourage us,
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and to move us closer to you,
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and to help us to grow in your truth,
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in knowledge of your word,
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in love for you,
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love for one another,
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to grow in humility and gentleness of heart.
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And we pray this in the mighty name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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All right.
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So if you're like me,
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you might have a lot of questions.
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You might even have some concerns about how the Bible was put together.
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You might sometimes wonder how things got in there.
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What if someone messed up?
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What if someone put things in the Bible that shouldn't be there,
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or maybe took some things out that should be there?
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And so today,
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I want us to consider these questions
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and look at the answers that we have for them.
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And my hope is that after today,
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you'll see a glimpse of how God has worked by his Holy Spirit
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to not just inspire and preserve the New Testament,
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but also to assemble it and to put it together.
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And so before we talk about that,
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before we talk about how the New Testament was assembled and formed and put together,
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I first just need to give a brief word about what the New Testament is made up of.
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The New Testament is a collection of 27 books and letters
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that were written under the authority of Jesus's apostles.
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These apostles, these disciples of Jesus were commissioned by him.
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He gave authority to them to teach and to preach his gospel
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and to explain Christian doctrine.
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Now, there's a lot of misconceptions
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or even false theories about how these apostolic documents
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were assembled into the New Testament.
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And you've likely heard some of these misconceptions or theories.
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You might even believe some of these things.
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And so I think it'd be good to start our time off
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by going through some of these misconceptions
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or false theories about how the Bible got put together.
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And so we're going to do that first.
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We're going to start by just going through some of these that you hear about,
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and I'll address each one in turn.
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So perhaps the one that I'll talk about first,
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I call this one the Bible drop down from heaven theory.
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And most people, they don't often put it in so many words,
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even if this is kind of what they believe.
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But basically, this theory assumes that the Bible was created outside of time,
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outside of history, without human hands,
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and just presented to us on earth in a nice, neat little package.
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And this is actually, substantively,
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the theory for other holy books of other religions.
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So for instance, the Quran, the holy text in Islam,
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Muslims traditionally believe that it was written on tablets in heaven
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and then brought down to earth,
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where Muhammad, their prophet, memorized it and then presented it.
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Mormons believe this about the Book of Mormon,
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that Joseph Smith found some gold tablets that were written,
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and he transcribed them and presented this Book of Mormon.
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But this is, of course, not how the Bible was written.
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And the Bible is very clear on this.
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If you just glance at it, you'll see that the Bible was written by humans
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and in human history.
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It's made up of dozens of different books,
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written by many different authors living in hundreds,
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if not thousands, of miles apart,
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and hundreds, if not thousands, of years apart as well.
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And God saw fit to inspire prophets over the ages to write his word.
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And because God is a God of love who delights in humans,
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who delights in his children,
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he welcomed them to become part of this process of writing scripture
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and inspired some of these prophets.
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And that's where our Bible comes from today.
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So this whole theory of the Bible kind of drop down from heaven theory,
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it's not really an accurate way to understand how the Bible was put together.
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A second common false view is, I call this the conspiracy view.
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This view maintains that sometime in the early 4th century,
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maybe 300 years after Jesus,
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the Roman Emperor Constantine or an early Pope,
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they plotted or they colluded to manufacture the New Testament.
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Constantine, of course, is known as the first Christian emperor of Rome.
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He came to power in the early 300s.
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And the running assumption behind this theory,
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you'll find this in popular culture sometimes,
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is that Constantine and this early Pope were pretty bad guys,
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and they're sitting in some smoke-filled room colluding,
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and they put stuff in the Bible that shouldn't be there,
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and they took stuff out that should have been in there,
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probably while committing all sorts of other horrible crimes.
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And if any of you are familiar with the Da Vinci Code,
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it was popular some years ago,
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the author Dan Brown posits this very theory.
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But, of course, neither Constantine nor an early Pope
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decided what was in the Bible.
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This is, in fact, so false,
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it's hard to believe it has much currency today.
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There's simply no evidence that Constantine or an early Pope
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ever decided what was in the New Testament,
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and there's a whole lot of evidence against it.
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In fact, even if Constantine or some early Pope
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did try and decide what was in the New Testament,
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their power only extended to Roman territory.
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And by the 4th century,
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Christianity was so far widespread
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beyond the Roman Empire,
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which you can see there in red or pink,
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that even if they had decided this,
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they had no power over the Sassanian Empire
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in the East or Ethiopia in the South.
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There was no phone lines.
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They couldn't pick up a phone
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and tell people what was in their Bible.
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And even if they did, they would have been ignored
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because these folks are in other power centers
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far removed from Rome.
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And in fact, we do have some later examples
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in the 4th and 5th century
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of Christians in these areas
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specifically ignoring what Roman Christians were doing.
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And so this theory of an early Pope
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or Bishop of Rome
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or an early Roman Emperor colluding to manufacture,
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it's just not true.
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They didn't decide what was in the New Testament.
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So that's another misconception,
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another false theory about how the Bible got put together.
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But let's keep moving.
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Let's talk about a third theory.
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This one I call the Ecumenical Church Council Theory.
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So this theory maintains
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that there was some ecumenical church council,
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by ecumenical, I mean universal or worldwide.
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And this council happened sometime way back in antiquity.
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And this council had representatives
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from all the churches of the world.
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And this council codified the contents of the New Testament.
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Well, many Christians will be surprised to learn
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that this is not true.
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There was no ecumenical worldwide church council
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that ratified the contents of the New Testament
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or decided what books were in it.
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There were, of course,
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various smaller local regional councils
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that sometimes issued New Testament lists
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way back in antiquity.
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But these had limited influence
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just to their general area.
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And so there was no worldwide council
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that had some kind of binding power
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that decided what was in the New Testament.
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The closest we can come to is something like this,
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the Council of Trulow in Constantinople in 692.
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This was a large council.
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It did issue some edicts about the contents
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of the New Testament.
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But the problem with the Council of Trulow,
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it was only a Roman council.
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Only the Roman Empire really accepted this.
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And as I've already shown,
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Christianity was far, far more widespread
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than the Roman Empire.
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We could say the same thing
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about the Second Council of Nicaea in 787 CE.
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They did the same thing.
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But again, just a Roman council.
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If we go earlier, like the Council of Hippo in 393,
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Hippo is kind of a funny name, I know.
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That's where Augustine was bishop back in 393.
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They did issue a list of New Testament books as well.
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And they're, of course, much earlier.
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But again, this was a regional council.
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It was even smaller than the Roman Empire.
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It was just Northwest Africa.
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So this theory, the ecumenical church council theory,
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it's an attractive theory.
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But it's also not true.
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Now, this next theory has probably the most truth to it
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of the ones that we've looked at.
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This theory states that the apostles
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collected the New Testament.
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So according to this theory,
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the apostles of Jesus,
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they not only supervised the writing of the New Testament,
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they also helped collect the New Testament documents
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and assemble them together in a single book.
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Sometimes you hear, for example,
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that John, the apostle John, the son of Zebedee,
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the last surviving disciple of Jesus
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and author of the book of Revelation,
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sometimes you hear that he was responsible
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for sealing the New Testament.
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And some people find evidence for this
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with John's last words
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in the last verses of the New Testament,
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where he says in the book of Revelation,
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if anyone adds to these things,
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God will add to him the plagues
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that are written in this book.
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And if anyone takes away from the words
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of the book of this prophecy,
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God shall take away his part from the book of life
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and from the holy city
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and from the things which are written in this book.
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Now, there is good reason to believe
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that John and other apostles
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did help assemble at least part of the New Testament.
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For example, the ancient Christian writer Eusebius,
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he's writing around the year 311.
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He's famous for kind of being the father of history.
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He was a fantastic historian.
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He writes that the apostle John
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accepted the other three gospels
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by Matthew, Mark, and Luke,
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and that he bore witness to their truthfulness.
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And then he wrote his fourth gospel,
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the gospel of John,
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as a supplement to the other three.
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And certainly it seems probable
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that the apostles did play a role
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in gathering the New Testament together.
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Not just John, but for instance,
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the second letter of Peter,
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he talks about Paul's letters.
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He mentions them as scripture.
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Peter seems to be affirming these letters
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as something that Christians should obey
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and consider as the inspired word of God.
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Peter also mentions Mark
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as being a very faithful Christian.
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Mark, of course, wrote the gospel of Mark.
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And in fact, an early Christian writer named Papias,
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writing around the year 115 AD,
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he tells us that Mark recorded Peter's preaching
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and that Peter approved of it
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and that that's what the gospel of Mark is.
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So Peter and John seem to have played some kind of role.
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Paul, the apostle,
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he also seems to have played a role
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in the collection of his own letters
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or at least some of his followers,
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maybe Timothy or Silas did.
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Paul also in 1 Timothy,
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I believe it's 1 Timothy 5, 17 through 18,
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he seems to call the gospel of Luke scripture.
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He seems to be affirming the gospel of Luke
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as part of scripture.
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So this theory that the apostles played a significant role
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in collecting and assembling the documents
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of the New Testament,
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this is a very reasonable theory.
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They clearly played a large role in that.
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But we don't have any explicit evidence
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that one or some of the apostles
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collected all 27 books of the New Testament.
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And it would seem likely
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that early Christian writings
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would mention this fact if it had happened,
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but they don't insofar as I'm aware.
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And there's also a problem
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in that it seems like probably the last book
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to be written was the book of Revelation by John.
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But John wrote this when he was in exile on an island
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and there were other apostles
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scattered around the whole world.
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It almost seems like they wouldn't have had an opportunity
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to collect all these things before they passed away,
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at least the final documents that were written.
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So definitely it seems like the apostles
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played a significant role,
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but that's not the whole story.
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So if this is the case,
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who decided what was in the New Testament?
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How did it come to include the 27 books
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that we have today?
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At some point,
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or at this point, I should say,
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some people start scratching their heads
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and begin wondering what other options
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are even available
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if these four theories aren't the whole truth.
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Well, the answer is, I think,
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a wonderful testimony to God's guiding spirit
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throughout the history of the church.
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And here's the answer.
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The answer of how the New Testament was assembled
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is that it was not assembled
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in one place or time by one person or group.
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Rather, the New Testament was assembled
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by various churches throughout history,
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relatively independently of one another,
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and it was done so many times.
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Many times, and this all began
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in the very early church of the second century.
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Back then, when these churches were gathering
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the contents of the New Testament,
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they all had one overriding factor.
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They wanted to identify documents
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that were published by the apostles
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or were published with their supervision.
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And from the very beginning,
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there was broad agreement
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over what these documents included,
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and any disagreements were met
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with careful consideration,
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with prayer, and with research.
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And the remarkable, perhaps even this stunning result,
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is that every ancient Christian community
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eventually came to use
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the very same 27-book New Testament
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that we have today.
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In other words, the same New Testament
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remarkably emerged in multiple churches
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relatively independently of one another,
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just like how God used multiple people
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over many countries and many languages
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to write his Bible,
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he also used many people over many countries
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to put it together.
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Now, you might be a little skeptical about this,
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so I think it might be helpful
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if I showed you what this process
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of putting the New Testament together looks like.
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So that's what we'll do right now.
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To do this,
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I want us to travel back in time,
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just about 2,000 years
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to the very beginning of the Christian church,
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to those first few decades
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after the resurrection of Jesus,
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when the apostles are traveling around the world
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and preaching the gospel of salvation.
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And if we go to, say, 45 AD,
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let's say to ancient Corinth,
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and if we peek in on a church service
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at this time in the church of Corinth,
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we'll notice something about their Bible.
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We'll notice that in 45 AD,
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they didn't have a New Testament,
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and that's because the New Testament didn't exist yet.
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It hadn't been written yet.
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These very first Christians,
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like those in Corinth,
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they did not have the New Testament
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because, like I said,
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the apostles hadn't started writing it yet.
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The scriptures that they held to
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were the Old Testament.
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The earliest New Testament scriptures
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were written within a few years of 50 AD or so,
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and so in 45 AD,
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none of them had been written yet.
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It's only 15 years or so,
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maybe even less after the resurrection of Jesus,
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and so this church is using the Old Testament.
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But if we stick around in Corinth long enough
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and keep going to their church services
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faithfully every Sunday,
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there will eventually come a day
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when the Corinthians get a letter
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from a guy named the Apostle Paul.
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And we now call this letter 1 Corinthians,
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and it's in our New Testament today.
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And because in 45 AD,
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Paul was an apostle of Jesus,
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commissioned by Jesus to have great authority
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to preach and to teach,
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the Corinthians get this letter
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and they start reading Paul's letter aloud
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in their church services
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alongside the Old Testament.
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And this is actually something
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Paul instructed them to do.
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In some of his letters,
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he says,
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make sure you read this out loud
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in your church service.
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And the Corinthians then start sending this letter
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around to their neighboring churches
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in Greece,
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in Philippi,
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in Thessalonica,
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which is, again,
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something Paul told his churches to do.
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And those churches in Thessalonica
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and Philippi
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begin sending the Corinthians
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their letters from apostles,
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which we now call
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1 and 2 Thessalonians
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and Philippians.
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And all of a sudden,
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perhaps without them even realizing it,
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the New Testament is being born.
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And over the next 30 or 40 years,
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various apostles wrote or supervised
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the composition of New Testament documents.
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And over these decades and afterwards,
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Christians began exchanging
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and verifying these documents
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to make sure they actually came
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from the apostles.
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And sometimes churches would find
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that a document they had accepted
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as being apostolic really wasn't.
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And they would reject it.
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We actually have witnesses of this
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in the New Testament,
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in 2 Thessalonians,
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when Paul says,
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don't be troubled by a letter
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as if from me
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saying that the day of the Lord has come.
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Don't believe it.
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And so he's giving them instructions
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on like,
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you got to test these documents, people.
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Now, this process of gathering
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and evaluating and verifying
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the documents,
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documents is apostolic.
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This took some time.
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This is in part because
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the Christian church expanded so rapidly
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over many thousands of miles
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that it was often difficult
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to communicate with one another.
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It's easy when you're all hanging out
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in Greece and Macedonia,
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like these three churches
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you see on the screen.
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But by 200 AD,
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the Christian church
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had spread to Spain,
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to Northwest Africa,
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to Great Britain,
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to France,
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to Germany,
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to Asia Minor,
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and Greece,
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and to Egypt,
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to what we start calling
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Mesopotamia,
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the Middle East,
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to Persia,
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even into Central Asia,
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Nubia,
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Ethiopia,
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all the way to Western China,
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and even Northwest India
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by 200 AD.
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And so,
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it took quite some time
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for these apostolic documents
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to be distributed
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and translated
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into all these various languages.
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Remember,
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there was no email,
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no printing press,
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no typewriter,
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things like that.
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So,
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things did take a bit of time.
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But,
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what we can say
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is that the early churches
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had broad agreement
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on the contents
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of the New Testament,
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and though it took some time
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for things
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to settle down,
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they eventually did arrive
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on complete agreement
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about what the New Testament
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would look like.
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And if you're curious,
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we can observe
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this agreement
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emerging for ourselves.
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if we can go back
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and canvas
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early Christian writings
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in the 2nd through 3rd centuries
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and see these discussions
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over the New Testament
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taking place
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and watch this general agreement
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arise for ourselves.
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So,
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just like how we went back
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to 45 AD
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to check out
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the Church of Corinth,
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we can go to 175 AD
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and start canvassing
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Christian documents
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to see what their New Testament
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was like
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and see what their New Testament
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included.
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So,
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for instance,
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in 175 AD,
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there's a document
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called the Muratorian Fragment.
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It's from Rome
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and it contains
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a discussion
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of the New Testament,
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of what their New Testament is.
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Now,
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unfortunately,
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this document
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is very old
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and we're missing
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the beginning of it
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and probably the end of it.
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So,
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it's not a complete
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discussion
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of the New Testament.
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In fact,
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it begins
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with this half-broken sentence
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and then says,
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the third gospel
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is Luke.
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Well,
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if you,
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so we know they had,
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we know they had
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two other ones.
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Then they have Luke
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and then they talk about John.
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So,
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we know there were four gospels.
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There was Luke,
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there was John
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and then the little
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half sentence
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really implies its mark.
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It doesn't have the name mark
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in it,
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but what it's talking about
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really implies mark.
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So,
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anyway,
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if we go through this document,
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we can chart out
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what their New Testament
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looked like
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and I have this
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on the screen here.
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I know this is small font,
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but I wanted to get
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the whole New Testament
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on here.
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On the left-hand side,
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you see a list
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of New Testament books
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in canonical order
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from Matthew down to Revelation
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and then in the second column,
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it's a chart
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of the Muratorian fragment
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and what documents
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this fragment includes
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as part of its New Testament
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and if it has the letter C
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in one of its rows,
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that means there's a direct
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citation of this document
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and you'll notice some things.
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First of all,
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they have a large chunk
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of our New Testament.
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Now,
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like I said,
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it's missing the beginning,
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but it's reasonable to think
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that they had Matthew and Mark.
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We can't be 100% sure,
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but they certainly had Luke,
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John,
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Acts,
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and the letters of Paul.
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They had 1st and 2nd John.
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They have Jude and Revelation.
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You'll notice that
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I've got some question marks here
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on 1st and 2nd Peter
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and we don't have anything
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for Hebrews and James.
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This is because
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these documents
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are not mentioned,
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but remember,
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we're missing
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the whole document.
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So we don't have
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the whole list.
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We have part of the list
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and the document
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doesn't talk about
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the New Testament books
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in the same order
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that we have them today.
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For instance,
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it talks about 1st John
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with the Gospel of John.
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So there's a chance
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and I think a fairly
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reasonable one
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that it talked about
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1st Peter,
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maybe 2nd Peter
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when it was speaking
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about Mark
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because Mark
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was the interpreter
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of Peter
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and recorded Peter's statements.
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Same with Hebrews and James.
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Matthew is the Gospel
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that's often written.
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It's thought of
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as a Jewish Gospel.
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It's written for the Jews
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and Hebrews and James
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are the two letters
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that are written
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to Jews specifically.
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So it's possible
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that when it spoke
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about Matthew,
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it was also speaking
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about Hebrews and James.
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We're not sure.
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I have a question mark
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by 3rd John.
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That's because
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there's some ambiguity.
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It mentions multiple letters
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of John
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but it doesn't say
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how many.
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So is it 2?
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Is it 3?
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We don't really know.
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But what you can see
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is that this New Testament,
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the core of the New Testament
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of this community
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is exactly the same
-
as ours
-
and if we had
-
the whole list,
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it might have been
-
exactly the same.
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We don't know.
-
There may be
-
some extraneous
-
minor differences
-
but we're not sure.
-
So we just peeked in
-
one church
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around 175 in Rome
-
but we can keep doing this.
-
We can do this
-
for 185
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with a theologian
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named Irenaeus.
-
He wrote this wonderful
-
book of theology.
-
It's actually
-
the first
-
comprehensive theology,
-
a book of theology
-
that we have
-
from a Christian
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and he's writing
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in France
-
in 185
-
and we can go through
-
this book of theology
-
and just see
-
what does he cite
-
from the New Testament
-
and try and come up
-
with what his New Testament
-
looked like.
-
So we have this list
-
from the Muratorian fragment
-
and we can add this one
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from Irenaeus
-
and we'll see that
-
he's got Matthew, Mark, Luke,
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John, Acts, Romans,
-
all the letters of Paul
-
except he doesn't mention
-
Philemon.
-
He also has 1 and 2 John,
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1 Peter, Revelation.
-
You'll notice though,
-
like I said,
-
he doesn't mention Philemon,
-
he doesn't mention 3 John,
-
he doesn't mention Jude
-
but remember that Irenaeus
-
is not giving us
-
a list of New Testament books.
-
He's just writing
-
a work of theology,
-
citing the New Testament
-
whenever it's relevant
-
and you'll notice something
-
about Philemon
-
and 3 John and Jude
-
is they're really,
-
really tiny.
-
They're only a paragraph
-
or two long
-
and you've got to write
-
a lot of theology
-
before you have
-
an opportunity
-
to mention these books.
-
So it's not that
-
we think these were
-
out of his New Testament,
-
they very well could have been
-
in his New Testament,
-
we just don't know.
-
He didn't happen
-
to cite them in this book.
-
I've got a question mark
-
with Hebrews.
-
He definitely knows Hebrews
-
but we're not sure
-
if he included it
-
in his New Testament
-
or not
-
but we know he's aware of it.
-
I have a question mark
-
with James and 2 Peter
-
and that's because
-
he seems to quote them
-
but it's not certain.
-
You know,
-
sometimes people will just
-
take a lot of language
-
from a New Testament book
-
but not say,
-
oh, this is from James
-
and that seems to be
-
like he's doing
-
what he's doing
-
but we're not totally sure.
-
Nevertheless,
-
his New Testament
-
looks an awful lot
-
like ours.
-
Maybe if we could have
-
had him make a list
-
it would have been
-
exactly like ours.
-
We just don't know.
-
Also,
-
Irenaeus is very clear.
-
He says elsewhere
-
that there are only
-
four Gospels.
-
He also says
-
that New Testament documents
-
need to come
-
from the Apostles
-
and be written
-
under their supervision.
-
So he gives us
-
kind of this broad outline
-
of what the New Testament
-
should contain.
-
But let's keep going.
-
We can do this same project
-
with a theologian
-
named Tertullian
-
in 200 A.D.
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in Northwest Africa
-
writing in Latin.
-
So we're on another continent now
-
and his New Testament
-
is very similar.
-
Now remember,
-
Tertullian,
-
he's not giving us a list.
-
He's just writing
-
some theology
-
but he's got
-
most of
-
what our New Testament
-
has today.
-
He has 1 Peter,
-
he has 1 John,
-
he has Jude,
-
he does mention Jude,
-
he mentions Revelation.
-
He is missing
-
some things
-
like James
-
and 2 Peter,
-
2 and 3 John
-
but again,
-
we don't know
-
if those were omitted
-
or if he just
-
never had reason
-
to quote from them.
-
We can't be sure.
-
Let's keep going.
-
We'll go to
-
same time frame,
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200 A.D.
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in Egypt,
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a guy named Clement
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of Alexandria,
-
another theologian.
-
So this is thousands
-
of miles away
-
from Tertullian
-
writing in a different language.
-
What does he have?
-
Well,
-
if we add him,
-
we see that he quotes
-
from all 27 books
-
of the New Testament
-
and we see this again
-
around 200,
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230 A.D.
-
This is when
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the old Latin translation
-
of the Bible
-
was commissioned.
-
We're not entirely sure
-
of the date.
-
I said 230
-
to be conservative.
-
It could easily
-
be earlier than that.
-
It could easily be 200
-
or 180 or something.
-
But this was,
-
as far as we know,
-
the first full-scale
-
translation
-
of the New Testament
-
into another language.
-
There certainly
-
were smaller
-
translations beforehand.
-
You know,
-
someone takes
-
a quick letter
-
and makes a translation
-
of it.
-
This seems to be
-
the first full-scale
-
one that we're aware of.
-
And scholars
-
have to do a lot of work
-
to try and piece together
-
what was included
-
in this full-scale
-
translation.
-
And it seems
-
like the Old Latin
-
included all 27 books
-
of the New Testament
-
around 230 A.D.
-
We've got one more guy
-
we're going to check out.
-
This is further east
-
in Caesarea Palestine,
-
a theologian named
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Origen in 245.
-
Origen gives us
-
the first complete list
-
of New Testament books.
-
Remember,
-
we did have a list
-
in the Muratorian fragment
-
in 175,
-
but it wasn't complete.
-
We're missing part of it.
-
Origen gives us
-
the first list.
-
And if you look
-
at his list,
-
his list includes
-
all 27 books
-
that we have
-
in our New Testament.
-
Now,
-
some scholars debate
-
if this list
-
has been properly preserved,
-
but what we can say
-
for certain
-
is that
-
if we go manually
-
through Origen's writings,
-
he does mention
-
all 27 books
-
of the New Testament.
-
So even if his list
-
has been
-
not preserved properly,
-
we do know
-
he was aware
-
of all 27 books
-
in the New Testament.
-
So,
-
all of those
-
were in Latin
-
or Greek.
-
So,
-
Irenaeus
-
is writing in France,
-
he's writing in Greek,
-
Tertullian
-
is writing in Latin,
-
Clement is Greek,
-
the Old Latin Bible
-
is Latin,
-
Origen is Greek,
-
and the Muratorian fragment,
-
it's in Latin.
-
Some people think
-
it was originally Greek
-
and it was translated,
-
but we only have it
-
in Latin today.
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Were there any
-
additional books
-
that they mentioned?
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Oh,
-
great.
-
Yes,
-
I'm going to be getting
-
to that in a little bit.
-
Yes,
-
yes,
-
yes,
-
there were.
-
And we'll talk about that
-
in just a moment.
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Amos.
-
I have a question.
-
Are there,
-
like,
-
comparable lists
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from outside
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the Roman Empire?
-
Not yet.
-
Not yet at this point.
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Outside the Roman Empire.
-
Now,
-
remember,
-
Christianity is still,
-
at this point,
-
a persecuted group.
-
And so,
-
there is no political authority
-
to control the Bible.
-
So,
-
this is well before
-
Christianity came to power
-
in the Roman Empire.
-
So,
-
these are all happening
-
somewhat independently
-
of one another.
-
And in fact,
-
Tertullian,
-
he ended up separating
-
from the Roman Church
-
over a matter
-
of doctrine.
-
Not a core
-
theological doctrine,
-
but he separated.
-
So,
-
some of these,
-
some of these people
-
are not even part
-
of necessarily
-
the same Christian community,
-
even though
-
they all have
-
the same statement of faith.
-
I mean,
-
we would,
-
if we read his confession
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of faith with these others,
-
we would agree with them all.
-
Does that help?
-
So,
-
at this point,
-
we don't have a list
-
outside of the Roman Empire
-
yet.
-
So,
-
we could keep doing this
-
over decades and centuries.
-
And like I said,
-
we would eventually see
-
all the ancient churches
-
clustering
-
around 27 documents
-
that we have today
-
in our New Testament.
-
And,
-
like I said,
-
there's two remarkable
-
things about this.
-
One is that
-
there was very early
-
agreement
-
within the contents
-
of the New Testament,
-
as you can see
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on the screen.
-
Secondly,
-
is like I said,
-
eventually all the churches
-
with ancient roots
-
came to agree
-
on this 27-book New Testament.
-
It did take
-
a long time
-
in some places,
-
particularly the places
-
that were farther flung
-
from where the original
-
locations of these documents
-
were written.
-
But,
-
eventually,
-
they all ended up agreeing.
-
So,
-
to sum up,
-
the
-
assembly of the New Testament,
-
this New Testament
-
did not fall out of heaven.
-
There was no conspiracy theory.
-
There was no single
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ecumenical council.
-
There really was actually
-
no single uniting factor
-
other than the Holy Spirit.
-
And,
-
the Holy Spirit
-
guided the apostles
-
to write the New Testament
-
and to begin assembling it.
-
And then,
-
their later churches
-
they left behind,
-
independently of one another,
-
somewhat,
-
investigated and tested
-
which documents
-
were apostolic.
-
And,
-
eventually,
-
everyone arrived
-
at the same 27-book New Testament,
-
even if it took
-
a long time
-
in some places.
-
So,
-
some of you might still
-
have some questions.
-
Like,
-
what New Testament books
-
were controversial?
-
Was there any books
-
in the New Testament today
-
that the ancient church
-
maybe was a little
-
uncomfortable about?
-
Well,
-
we could make a list of these
-
and I've done that for you.
-
And,
-
these are the books
-
that when you go back
-
and you read
-
the early debates,
-
these are the books
-
that are in our New Testament today
-
that sometimes you'll find
-
an ancient Christian
-
disagreed with.
-
And,
-
I'm going to address
-
each of these in turn.
-
So,
-
Hebrews.
-
Hebrews was suspicious
-
in the Latin church
-
for a little bit.
-
It was not suspicious
-
in the Greek church.
-
But,
-
in the Latin church it was
-
and it was because
-
it was anonymous.
-
They wanted to make sure
-
that this was written
-
under apostolic authority
-
and so,
-
some of them
-
were a little suspicious
-
of it.
-
Interestingly,
-
Hebrews actually has
-
some of the earliest
-
attestation
-
of any
-
New Testament document.
-
There's a Christian
-
writing in 96 A.D.
-
who is aware
-
of the letter
-
of Hebrews.
-
So,
-
it has very early
-
attestation.
-
I'm actually encouraged
-
that the early church
-
took authorship
-
so seriously
-
that they didn't just
-
want to throw everything
-
in just because
-
they liked it.
-
James also
-
took some time.
-
Now,
-
there's a good reason
-
for this.
-
If you read
-
James,
-
it's addressed
-
to the 12 tribes
-
of Israel,
-
to the Jews.
-
And the evidence
-
we have from
-
the early church
-
is almost entirely
-
from Gentile churches.
-
The Romans,
-
the Greeks,
-
the Egyptians,
-
the Northwest Africans.
-
And so,
-
in other words,
-
this letter
-
wasn't actually
-
written to them
-
initially.
-
And it makes sense
-
that it would just
-
take some time
-
to percolate
-
and for them
-
to come
-
to accept it.
-
The next letters,
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2 Peter,
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2 John,
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3 John,
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Jude,
-
they all share
-
the characteristic
-
of being pretty short.
-
They're very short.
-
And so,
-
some of,
-
like that guy
-
I mentioned,
-
Eusebius,
-
who's writing
-
around the year 300,
-
he's investigating
-
these things
-
and he reports,
-
he's like,
-
you know,
-
2 Peter,
-
2 John,
-
3 John,
-
Jude,
-
they're not mentioned
-
a whole lot
-
in the super ancient
-
Christian writings
-
and we saw that
-
in our chart.
-
And the reason why
-
may simply have just been
-
that they were just
-
so short.
-
You've got to listen
-
to a lot of sermons,
-
you've got to read
-
a lot of theology
-
before you find citations
-
of 3 John
-
and 2 John
-
and Jude.
-
And we actually
-
can test this
-
if we look at
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Augustine's writings,
-
Augustine,
-
St. Augustine,
-
he's writing around
-
the year 400.
-
We know what his
-
New Testament contained
-
because he tells us,
-
he gives us a list.
-
He also attended
-
a council that he headed
-
that also issued a list.
-
He has a 27 book
-
New Testament.
-
Augustine wrote
-
5 million words.
-
He wrote an enormous amount.
-
It's the equivalent
-
of writing a 300 page book
-
every year for 40 years.
-
And if you go through
-
his 5 million writings,
-
you find that he only quotes
-
from 2 and 3 John
-
like once or twice,
-
which means he's only
-
quoting from them,
-
you know,
-
once every one or 2 million
-
words that he writes.
-
That's a lot of words.
-
And in the early church,
-
we don't even have
-
5 million words
-
from the early church
-
when you combine it
-
all together.
-
So there's good reasons
-
why these smaller documents
-
may not have come up
-
as much.
-
The last one,
-
Revelation,
-
the last one
-
was actually
-
not controversial
-
in the early church.
-
The early church
-
universally accepted this.
-
It is quoted constantly
-
in Latin and in Greek
-
from the very beginning
-
of the 2nd century
-
and all throughout
-
the 3rd century.
-
The problem with Revelation
-
is that in the 4th
-
and 5th century,
-
some Christians,
-
it kind of fell out of favor
-
to be honest.
-
And some Christians
-
started removing it
-
from their New Testament.
-
So it wasn't controversial
-
in the early church.
-
In the later church,
-
it was controversial
-
in certain churches,
-
but then eventually
-
came back in.
-
So those were the books
-
that are in our New Testament
-
today that met
-
with some controversy
-
at some points.
-
But what about books
-
that almost made it
-
into the Bible
-
but didn't?
-
What about those?
-
I'm interested in those.
-
Well, I guess in a way,
-
I would say there's actually
-
no book that almost made it in
-
but didn't.
-
There were some books, though,
-
that some people thought
-
should be in at some point,
-
but many people didn't.
-
And so in other words,
-
there are some texts
-
that some early Christian churches
-
included,
-
but I would not say
-
most of them did.
-
It was not like they almost
-
made it in but didn't.
-
It's just that maybe
-
there'd be some churches
-
that were reading this,
-
but most weren't.
-
And here they are.
-
These are books like this,
-
The Epistle of Barnabas.
-
I'm going to talk about
-
each one of these in turn.
-
First Clement.
-
It's a letter
-
by a guy named Clement.
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A book called
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The Shepherd of Hermas.
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A document called
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The Gospel of the Hebrews.
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And another document
-
called The Dietessaron.
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Now you're looking
-
at the Epistle of Barnabas
-
and you're like,
-
I've heard that guy before.
-
And that's because
-
Barnabas is in the Bible.
-
He's one of the early
-
followers of the apostles.
-
He's called an apostle
-
sometimes.
-
And this letter,
-
it's a long letter.
-
It's an early Christian letter.
-
It probably comes
-
from the year 100 or 120.
-
But it's not by Barnabas.
-
It doesn't claim
-
to be by Barnabas either.
-
But later Christians,
-
some of them said
-
he wrote it
-
and some Christians,
-
a minority,
-
included it
-
within their New Testament.
-
But scholars are united today
-
that Barnabas did not write this.
-
It's not.
-
It's post-70 AD,
-
probably 100, 120 AD.
-
And it's not from Barnabas.
-
First Clement is another one.
-
This is a letter of Clement.
-
I mentioned it earlier
-
where Clement mentions Hebrews
-
and Clement wrote
-
around 95 AD.
-
And Clement was a disciple
-
of the apostles.
-
He was a priest in Rome.
-
He writes a letter
-
to the Corinthians.
-
It's like a kind of a sequel
-
to 1st and 2nd Corinthians.
-
He writes a letter to them.
-
And some Christians
-
had his letter
-
in their New Testament.
-
They're like,
-
you know,
-
he was a disciple
-
of the apostles.
-
Mark and Luke
-
were disciples of the apostles.
-
It's a pretty good letter too.
-
I like it.
-
It's a good thing though
-
that it's not
-
in the New Testament.
-
And that's because
-
it was not written
-
with apostolic oversight.
-
It was written
-
after the apostles
-
had passed away.
-
And by the way,
-
Clement is not writing this
-
as claiming it's scripture.
-
He's just writing
-
a letter to the Corinthians.
-
And the Corinthians
-
really liked it.
-
They, for instance,
-
seemed to have read it
-
in their church services
-
publicly for decades afterwards.
-
But there were
-
a few other communities
-
that included it
-
in their New Testament,
-
but most didn't.
-
Shepherd of Hermas.
-
This is a weird one, guys.
-
It's a weird one.
-
There's a scholar
-
who talks about,
-
there's a few churches
-
who would read this publicly
-
and there's a scholar
-
who said that he pitied them,
-
that they had to listen to this.
-
This is probably
-
from the year like 150 AD.
-
We still have it.
-
You can read it.
-
It's probably written
-
around the year 150.
-
For some reason,
-
it really caught on
-
in some churches.
-
And for instance,
-
Irenaeus,
-
whom,
-
whom,
-
let's see,
-
do I have a church?
-
Yeah.
-
Irenaeus,
-
he liked it.
-
He quotes from it.
-
He might have even included it
-
in his Bible.
-
However,
-
the Muratorian fragment
-
and Tertullian
-
both mention it
-
and they both say,
-
no, no, no, no, no.
-
No, this is not part
-
of the New Testament.
-
And it eventually,
-
it fell out.
-
Gospel of Hebrews.
-
Yes,
-
Gospel of Hebrews
-
was included
-
by some Christians.
-
Don't let that alarm you.
-
The Gospel of Hebrews
-
seems to be just
-
a Hebrew version
-
of the Gospel of Matthew.
-
Remember I said
-
that Matthew was written
-
for the Jews
-
and it seems to be
-
a Hebrew version of Matthew
-
that for whatever reason
-
had some changes
-
here and there.
-
So like the man
-
with the withered hand,
-
the story of Jesus healing
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the man with the withered hand,
-
it gives his name,
-
for instance,
-
or at least tells his trade.
-
I can't remember
-
if it's both.
-
But little changes
-
like that.
-
So sometimes,
-
so it seems to have been
-
some version of Matthew,
-
not all that different.
-
The last one
-
was the Diatessalon.
-
This was a huge account
-
of Jesus' life.
-
Some of the Eastern churches
-
had this in their New Testament.
-
But the Diatessalon,
-
it means through four.
-
And what that was,
-
was just the four Gospels,
-
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John,
-
knit together
-
into a single narrative.
-
So instead of the four
-
separated Gospels,
-
they had this one Gospel
-
where a man named Tation
-
took the four Gospels
-
and put them all together.
-
So in a way,
-
it's different
-
from what we have today.
-
But in another way,
-
it's like really similar.
-
It's not this far off,
-
outlandish kind of thing
-
that gives a completely
-
different picture of Jesus.
-
Does that make sense?
-
Okay, so those were
-
the books that,
-
you know,
-
some Christians considered
-
as authoritative,
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others didn't.
-
Here's another question.
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How long until the 27 Book New Testament
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was universally accepted?
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How long did it take
-
for the 27 Book New Testament
-
to become universally accepted?
-
Well, as I've showed,
-
we do start having churches
-
embracing a 27 Book New Testament
-
very early on.
-
And even in the earlier stages,
-
it may have happened.
-
Remember,
-
we can't be sure
-
that this is the complete
-
New Testament
-
of these earlier churches
-
represented by the
-
Muratorian Fragment
-
or Irenaeus or Tertullian.
-
We know that in 245,
-
there were churches
-
that seemed to have
-
a 27 Book New Testament.
-
There were many.
-
But how long did this take
-
to become universally accepted?
-
Well, the answer to this
-
is complicated.
-
And it depends on what area
-
of the world,
-
the Christian world
-
you're talking about.
-
So for instance,
-
in Rome,
-
the 27 Book New Testament
-
seems to have been embraced
-
very early on in the 200s.
-
Same with Western Europe,
-
same with Northwest Africa,
-
same with Egypt.
-
We don't know a lot
-
about Cyprus,
-
but we do have a list
-
of New Testament books
-
from the mid to late 300s.
-
It's 27 books.
-
But then things are
-
a little different
-
in other parts of the world.
-
In Asia Minor
-
and in Palestine,
-
we do have some evidence
-
of 27 books,
-
but we also have evidence
-
that there were churches
-
that were uncomfortable
-
with the book of Revelation.
-
This is where we first
-
start seeing that discomfort.
-
And what's ironic
-
is that earlier
-
in the history
-
of these churches,
-
in the 100s and 200s,
-
they did accept Revelation.
-
But then it kind of
-
fell under suspicion.
-
So those churches
-
seem to have,
-
I guess,
-
what we'd call
-
like a 26 book
-
or 27 book New Testament.
-
It depended
-
what time you're talking about.
-
Sometimes they had Revelation
-
and sometimes they didn't.
-
Things get more diverse
-
as we go farther east,
-
especially when we start
-
getting to the area
-
of the Roman Empire
-
that's overlapping
-
with the Syriac church.
-
Syriac is a language
-
that was anciently spoken
-
around here
-
in what is today
-
Iraq and Syria.
-
They had what I guess
-
I would call
-
a smaller New Testament
-
in that those books
-
that I put up on the screen
-
that said they were controversial
-
like 2 John,
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3 John,
-
Jude,
-
they excluded those
-
from their New Testament
-
originally.
-
And they did that
-
for hundreds of years.
-
In around 500 AD,
-
they commissioned
-
a new translation
-
of the scriptures
-
into Syriac
-
that did have
-
all 27 books.
-
And then in 600 AD,
-
another translation
-
into Syriac
-
that also had
-
all 27 books.
-
But those translations
-
didn't totally catch on
-
for quite some time.
-
It took a very long time
-
for all the Syriac churches
-
to eventually embrace
-
this 27 book New Testament.
-
We could go to Armenia
-
and Georgia.
-
They follow kind of
-
a similar pattern,
-
although they're more quick
-
to get to the kind of
-
26 slash 27 book New Testament.
-
Revelation took the longest here
-
in Armenia and Georgia.
-
We go farther
-
into Ethiopia,
-
into the Persian
-
and Parthian Empire.
-
And things start
-
taking longer.
-
And for instance,
-
this church here
-
took hundreds
-
and hundreds
-
and hundreds of years
-
to finally adopt
-
a 27 book New Testament.
-
Interestingly,
-
they were a great
-
missionary church
-
and they had
-
a large mission
-
in China.
-
and we have
-
an inscription
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from this mission
-
in the 700s.
-
And they do have
-
a 27 book New Testament,
-
it looks like.
-
But for some reason,
-
this area
-
took a very long time.
-
So long
-
that it took
-
until basically
-
the printing press
-
for them
-
to finally
-
catch on to that.
-
And that may be true,
-
that seems to be true
-
in Georgia also,
-
the country of Georgia
-
which is up here.
-
But eventually,
-
they all came
-
to agree on this.
-
Okay.
-
So,
-
I have another question.
-
What about those
-
heretics I hear about
-
all the time?
-
What about them?
-
Well,
-
that's a great question.
-
Some of you hear
-
about heretical
-
early Christians
-
that have a very different,
-
they have other
-
New Testament documents
-
like the Gospel of Mary
-
and the Gospel of Truth
-
and the Gospel of Judas
-
and the Gospel of Philip
-
and the Gospel of so-and-so.
-
What about them?
-
What if they're right?
-
What if we're wrong?
-
That's important
-
for us to figure out.
-
And so,
-
what I want to do
-
is I want to examine
-
early Christian
-
heretical sects
-
to see what
-
their New Testament
-
contained
-
and see if it had
-
big differences
-
and maybe
-
and if those differences
-
are important
-
and if they are,
-
are they right?
-
Are these other
-
heretical Christian groups
-
right and we're wrong?
-
This is important
-
to figure out.
-
So,
-
what we're going to do
-
is we're going to examine
-
some early Christian
-
heretical sects
-
to see what their
-
New Testament contained
-
and while we're doing that,
-
we're also going to figure out
-
on our own
-
which writings
-
we think
-
come from
-
an apostle
-
because
-
what if the early church
-
was wrong?
-
What if they made a mistake?
-
So,
-
we're going to try
-
and do this
-
for ourselves.
-
We're going to go
-
through some heretical
-
writings,
-
look at them
-
and then we're going
-
to come up
-
with the 27
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or whatever number
-
it is,
-
books in a New Testament
-
that come from
-
an apostle.
-
So,
-
let's do this.
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First thing to know
-
about some,
-
about early Christian heretics
-
is that
-
early Christian heretical sects,
-
they made up
-
a small minority
-
of Christians.
-
The majority of Christians
-
in the early centuries
-
followed
-
the mainstream church
-
and this church
-
spanned thousands of miles,
-
dozens of cultures,
-
many languages
-
and it was directly linked
-
to the apostles.
-
So,
-
there's good reasons
-
why we want to trust
-
those people
-
instead of the other folks.
-
But,
-
let's,
-
for sake of argument,
-
let's just look at
-
what the heretics
-
believed about
-
the New Testament
-
and see what
-
their New Testament
-
looked like.
-
So,
-
the most prevalent
-
heretical sects
-
in the ancient church
-
were as follows.
-
You have the Montanists
-
who were largely
-
in Asia Minor,
-
the Novationists
-
in Italy,
-
the Donatists
-
in northwest Africa
-
and then the Arians
-
who were all over
-
but they were largely
-
in Germany
-
and in Egypt.
-
And when you look
-
at these heretical groups,
-
we have writings
-
preserved
-
from all of these
-
and when you look
-
at them
-
and you try
-
and see
-
what their New Testament
-
looked like,
-
you'll discover
-
that they accepted
-
the very same
-
New Testament
-
that the mainstream
-
church did.
-
Their debates
-
with the mainstream
-
church had nothing
-
to do with
-
what scriptures
-
were accepted
-
and had everything
-
to do with
-
how to interpret
-
the scriptures.
-
And in fact,
-
several of these groups,
-
the Montanists,
-
the Novationists,
-
and the Donatists
-
actually had this
-
same confession
-
of faith.
-
Their split
-
from the church
-
wasn't really
-
even theological.
-
It was more
-
practical
-
or praxis related.
-
They didn't want
-
to be,
-
the Novationists
-
and the Donatists
-
didn't want
-
to be associated
-
with an official
-
church in Rome
-
and the Montanists
-
had a very high
-
regard for the
-
current inspiration
-
of the Holy Spirit.
-
They're like
-
modern Pentecostals
-
today,
-
a very extreme
-
form of Pentecostalism
-
and the mainstream
-
church thought
-
they went too far
-
but they're preaching
-
the same core doctrines
-
as the church.
-
Question?
-
Cathars,
-
when did they go?
-
Oh, the Cathars,
-
they're much later.
-
They're like 1100,
-
1200.
-
Yeah,
-
they're much later.
-
Unless,
-
unless they're,
-
some people argue
-
there could be
-
some kind of
-
ancient link
-
with the Donatists
-
and the Novationists
-
but they're much later.
-
So, okay,
-
but what about
-
those heretics
-
that had a different
-
New Testament?
-
Well,
-
the group that was
-
the largest
-
that had a different
-
New Testament
-
is called the Marcionites.
-
They were founded
-
by a man named Marcion
-
around the year 140.
-
Their Bible was
-
very different
-
from our Bible
-
and the reason why
-
their Bible
-
was very different
-
was because
-
they rejected
-
every biblical writing
-
that was Jewish
-
and,
-
if you think about it,
-
that's almost everything.
-
So,
-
they rejected
-
the entire
-
Old Testament.
-
They rejected
-
almost the entire
-
New Testament
-
because these books
-
were written by Jews
-
and for Jews.
-
The only books
-
they accepted
-
was the Gospel of Luke
-
because Luke
-
was a Gentile
-
and they accepted
-
most of the letters
-
of Paul
-
because even though
-
Paul was Jewish,
-
he was the apostle
-
to the Gentiles.
-
But if you read Luke
-
and you read Paul's letters,
-
they're constantly quoting
-
from the Old Testament
-
in an approving way,
-
so they had to go through
-
and edit all those things out.
-
So,
-
these folks
-
don't seem
-
to be a particularly
-
reliable group
-
about what we should have
-
in our Bible.
-
If we know anything
-
about Jesus
-
and the apostles at all,
-
it was that
-
they were Jewish
-
and that they believed
-
in the Jewish Old Testament.
-
So,
-
why would we trust
-
a group that refuses
-
to acknowledge
-
one of the most
-
fundamental facts
-
of history
-
concerning Jesus
-
and the apostles?
-
But even worse than this
-
is that the Marcionites
-
also have an inherently
-
contradictory view.
-
They believed
-
that the God
-
of the Old Testament
-
in their words,
-
Yahweh,
-
was evil,
-
yet they worship Jesus
-
whose name means
-
Yahweh saves.
-
Yahweh is salvation.
-
So,
-
they're rejecting Yahweh
-
while worshiping someone
-
whose name confesses
-
that Yahweh is salvation.
-
So,
-
totally contradictory group.
-
So,
-
I think we can safely
-
dismiss the Marcionites
-
from having some kind of
-
more accurate Bible
-
than we have today.
-
There's another group
-
that had a different Bible.
-
These are the Ebionites.
-
This is a kind of
-
Jewish Christian group
-
and unlike the Marcionites,
-
they rejected writings
-
in the New Testament
-
that were too pro-Gentile.
-
So,
-
in other words,
-
they didn't like Luke,
-
they didn't,
-
especially Paul.
-
They did not like Paul
-
at all.
-
And so,
-
what we see here
-
with these two groups,
-
the Marcionites
-
and the Ebionites,
-
is that these actually
-
were kind of
-
race-based groups.
-
They had this kind of,
-
for lack of a better term,
-
this sort of racist
-
view of theology.
-
The Marcionites rejected
-
anything Jewish.
-
The Ebionites rejected
-
anything to do with Gentiles.
-
And if we know
-
the Old Testament,
-
right in Genesis chapter 12,
Genesis 12 chapter mention
-
what does God say to Abraham?
-
That I will make your seed
-
a blessing
-
for all nations.
-
And that promised seed
-
is traced to the whole
-
Old Testament,
-
this promised seed
-
for all nations,
-
not just Jews.
-
And that promised seed
-
is Jesus.
-
Jesus is the Savior
-
of both Jews
-
and Gentiles.
-
So,
-
they don't really seem
-
to be a reliable
-
guide either.
-
But,
-
what about those Gnostics
-
we hear about?
-
That's the final group
-
I'm going to mention.
-
The Gnostics,
-
they had all sorts of
-
additional New Testament
-
documents.
-
They had things like
-
the Gospel of Thomas
-
and the Gospel of Peter
-
and the Gospel of Philip
-
and Mary and Judas
-
and Truth
-
and the Acts of John
-
and Paul and whoever.
-
And they had other documents
-
with crazy names
-
like Thunder,
-
the Perfect Mind,
-
which sounds kind of
-
like a video game title.
-
And they claimed
-
that these were written
-
by the apostles.
-
But,
-
what's interesting
-
is that the Gnostics
-
acknowledged
-
the New Testament
-
of the mainstream church.
-
They just added to it.
-
So,
-
they acknowledged
-
the mainstream New Testament
-
but then added
-
these other documents.
-
So,
-
what about
-
these Gnostic documents?
-
what if
-
they're accurate?
-
Like,
-
what if they really are
-
from the apostles?
-
Well,
-
we want to figure this out.
-
We want to figure out
-
if these other Gospels
-
by Thomas and Philip
-
and whoever
-
really do come
-
from the apostles
-
and if we should trust them.
-
Well,
-
we can do this
-
in a certain
-
ways.
-
One thing we can try
-
and do
-
is we can try
-
and verify
-
the historical contents
-
of these Gnostic Gospels
-
to see if they're accurate,
-
to see if they reflect
-
history as it happened.
-
And when we do this,
-
we see that
-
we cannot verify
-
the historical contents
-
of these
-
additional documents.
-
Not only that,
-
these documents
-
seem totally
-
disconnected
-
from Judaism.
-
They have a whole lot
-
more in common
-
with Greek philosophy
-
and Greek mythology
-
and Greek culture
-
and if there's anything
-
we know about Jesus
-
is that he was Jewish,
-
he lived in
-
first century Palestine,
-
he was a rabbi,
-
but these documents
-
have little to no knowledge
-
of that at all
-
and that is
-
in great contrast
-
to the four Gospels
-
which are embedded
-
in Jewish culture
-
and society
-
in first century Israel.
-
On top of that,
-
these Gnostic documents,
-
they contain all sorts
-
of ridiculous things.
-
Like,
-
one of them talks about
-
this giant walking cross
-
that comes out
-
of Jesus' tomb
-
and then starts
-
talking to people.
-
There's other documents
-
that talk about
-
the apostles
-
resurrecting fish
-
or taming bedbugs.
-
One of them
-
has Simon the Magician
-
flying around
-
in the air
-
mocking Peter
-
in some kind
-
of glorified wizard's duel
-
where people
-
are paying money
-
to watch
-
like it's a sporting event.
-
I'm not exaggerating.
-
It's crazy.
-
And,
-
in fact,
-
this stuff
-
totally lacks
-
verisimilitude,
-
historical veracity,
-
authenticity.
-
It strains credulity.
-
And all these factors
-
point to the idea
-
that these authors
-
were not embedded
-
in first century
-
Jewish life.
-
Instead,
-
they're being influenced
-
by later Greek philosophy
-
and Greek mythological
-
contours.
-
But this is not the case
-
with the 27 documents
-
of the New Testament.
-
These are anchored
-
in history.
-
They're steeped
-
in Jewish background.
-
And we can verify this
-
from many angles,
-
which we will do next
-
class, by the way.
-
But we have another reason
-
for rejecting
-
the Gnostic writings.
-
And this is because
-
none of them
-
can be reliably dated
-
to the first century.
-
Every single one of them
-
is most likely dated
-
to the second
-
or third centuries
-
or later.
-
None of them
-
can be placed
-
within a first century context.
-
Every once in a while,
-
you hear a scholar claim
-
the Gospel of Thomas
-
comes from the first century.
-
But if you look
-
at the evidence,
-
there's really no evidence
-
in favor of this.
-
There's a lot of evidence
-
against it.
-
But nevertheless,
-
all 27 documents
-
of the New Testament
-
can be dated
-
to the first century
-
with great certainty
-
or at least
-
a great amount
-
of plausibility.
-
And this gives us
-
our final reason
-
to reject
-
the Gnostic writings.
-
And it's that
-
none of these Gnostic writings
-
can be reliably attributed
-
to apostolic authorship
-
or apostolic oversight.
-
There is not
-
a single scholar
-
that I'm aware of
-
who actually believes
-
that the Gnostic writings
-
come from the apostles.
-
No one believes
-
Thomas actually wrote Thomas
-
or Judas actually wrote Judas
-
or Mary actually wrote
-
the Gospel of Mary.
-
And like I said,
-
it's not just
-
the early church
-
that gives us
-
evidence from this.
-
Even the ancient heretics
-
agree with this.
-
Those heretical groups
-
I showed you,
-
the Donatists,
-
the Novatians,
-
they all rejected
-
the Gnostic documents.
-
And if that's not enough
-
for you,
-
even ancient
-
non-Christian writers
-
agree with this.
-
There's an ancient
-
philosopher,
-
Porphyry.
-
He's not a Christian.
-
He actually hated Christians.
-
And he explicitly
-
accuses the Gnostics
-
of forging documents.
-
But when he turns
-
his attention
-
to attack
-
the mainstream church,
-
he seems to acknowledge
-
that their documents
-
did come from
-
the disciples of Jesus.
-
Now,
-
Porphyry doesn't believe
-
that the apostles
-
are being truthful.
-
He still rejects them,
-
but he's totally fine,
-
seemingly,
-
accepting that they actually
-
come from the disciples
-
of Jesus.
-
But for the Gnostics,
-
he mentions how
-
they were forging stuff
-
and things like that.
-
So we have multiple avenues
-
to verify this
-
about these Gnostic documents
-
that they do not
-
actually come from
-
the apostles.
-
So let me summarize.
-
None of the documents
-
that come from
-
the Gnostics
-
can be historically verified.
-
None of them
-
are connected
-
with Judaism.
-
None of them
-
can be reliably dated
-
to the first century.
-
Many of them
-
have ridiculous content.
-
None of them
-
can be reliably attributed
-
to apostolic authorship
-
or oversight.
-
And even ancient heretics
-
and non-Christian writers
-
agreed on this matter.
-
But the 27 books
-
of the New Testament,
-
they can be historically verified,
-
which we'll see in two weeks
-
when I'm with you again.
-
They can be reliably dated
-
to the first century.
-
They can be indexed back
-
to an apostle.
-
And they're the only documents
-
in existence
-
that can be linked
-
to an apostle.
-
And the ancient
-
mainstream church,
-
heretics,
-
and even non-Christians
-
agreed with this.
-
And these 27 books,
-
it also matches
-
the earliest complete
-
New Testament list
-
that we have
-
from Origin of Alexandria
-
in 245.
-
It matches the earliest
-
full-scale New Testament
-
translation,
-
the Old Latin,
-
that was made sometime
-
in the third century,
-
maybe as early as 200.
-
And like I said,
-
every church eventually
-
chose to put these
-
in their New Testaments.
-
Most of them did so
-
at a very early date.
-
Some of them did so
-
at a very late date.
-
So if we were going
-
to go and make
-
our own New Testament
-
that only had
-
apostolic documents,
-
we would choose
-
the same 27
-
that we find
-
in the New Testament
-
today.
-
All right.
-
But if you're like me,
-
you might be wanting
-
a bit more.
-
You might be wanting
-
more assurances,
-
more guarantees.
-
In fact,
-
why stop
-
with the apostles
-
and their writings?
-
I'll tell you
-
what I really wish
-
that we had
-
in our New Testament.
-
I would like to have
-
a letter directly
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from Jesus himself
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delivered by the apostles.
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That's what I would
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like to have
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in my New Testament
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and I'd like to know
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why we don't have
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it in there.
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Well,
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if you're wondering
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about this,
-
then I invite you
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to read the New Testament
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for yourself
-
and you'll find
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your answer.
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Paul writes
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to the Corinthians.
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He says,
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you are a letter
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from Christ
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delivered by us,
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written not with ink,
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but with the spirit
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of the living God,
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not on tablets of stone,
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but on tablets
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of the human heart.
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So if you are looking
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for a letter by Jesus,
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we do have one.
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It's a letter
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from Jesus
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delivered by the apostles,
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but it's written
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on something better
-
than paper
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and with something better
-
than pen and ink.
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It's written
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on your heart
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and it's written
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by the spirit.
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What a wonderful privilege
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and gift
-
that this is.
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A few verses later,
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Paul explains something
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truly profound
-
about this letter
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and the nature
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of this letter
-
and the nature
-
of the New Testament.
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He writes this.
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He says,
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God has made us sufficient
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to be ministers
-
of a new covenant,
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not of the letter,
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but of the spirit.
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That phrase,
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new covenant,
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in Greek,
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it's kine diatheke.
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That can be translated
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as New Testament,
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synonymous terms.
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God has made us sufficient
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to be ministers
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of a new testament,
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not of the letter,
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but of the spirit.
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Paul here
-
is making a statement
-
about the very nature
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of the New Testament.
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He's saying
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that it's not
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limited
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only
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to what
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is written
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in pen and ink.
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It also includes
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what's written
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by the spirit.
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And all this points
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to the fact
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that the New Testament
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is more than just pen and ink
-
and a bunch of words
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on paper.
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It's spiritual
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and of the spirit.
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And what this means
-
is that for you
-
to have a complete
-
New Testament,
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you need more
-
than just the pen and ink
-
apostolic documents
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and letters.
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You also need
-
that spiritual letter
-
of Jesus Christ
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written on the tablet
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of your heart.
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And if you're missing
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that letter,
-
then you don't really
-
have the whole
-
New Testament.
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But when you put
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that spiritual letter
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from Jesus
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together with the
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writings of the apostles,
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then you do
-
have a complete
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New Testament.
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And these components
-
are like
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self-authenticating
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witnesses
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that declare
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the truthfulness
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of one another.
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I remember
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when I was 18 years old
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and I was tangled up
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in my sins
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and Jesus caught me up
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and he cleaned me up
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and he wrote me up
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this living letter
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on my heart
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that just said,
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forgiven.
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And then the remarkable
-
thing for me
-
was that for the first
-
time in my life,
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the scriptures
-
came alive for me.
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I'd been going to church
-
every week for 18 years
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but once Jesus
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wrote that letter,
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then every word
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of scripture
-
had this new
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and profound meaning
-
for me.
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And you know,
-
this is similar
-
to the way
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that the apostolic
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documents in our
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New Testament
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were independently
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gathered in various
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churches throughout history.
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People filled
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with the Spirit of God
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carrying that letter
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of Jesus in their hearts.
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They met with
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these apostolic documents
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and those documents
-
fit together
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with that letter
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of Jesus
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and each witness
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to one another.
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And the remarkable
-
thing about this
-
is that long ago
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Jeremiah the prophet
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foretold this
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in 600 BC.
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He writes in
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Jeremiah 31,
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the days are coming
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declares the Lord
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when I will make
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a new covenant.
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We could also
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translate that
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New Testament
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with the house of Israel
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and the house of Judah
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not like the testament
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that I made
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with their fathers
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on the day
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when I took them
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by the hand
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to bring them
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out of the land
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of Egypt.
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My testament
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that they broke
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though I was
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their husband
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declares the Lord.
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For this is the testament
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that I will make
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with the house of Israel
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after those days.
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I will put my law
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within them
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and I will write it
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on their hearts
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and I will be their God
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and they shall be
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my people.
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So Christians,
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this is how we are
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to read our New Testament.
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We're supposed to bring
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that letter that Jesus
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has written on our hearts
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and bring it together
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with those apostolic documents
-
and let them minister
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to us
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and through us
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to other people.
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Let's pause there.
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I'm going to pray
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real quick
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and then we'll have time
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for some Q&A.
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Father in heaven,
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we thank you
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that you saw fit
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to assemble
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your New Testament
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for us.
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We thank you
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for your faithful apostles
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who wrote that
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and all the Christians
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who have preserved it
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and those
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who have taught it,
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some of whom we know.
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And Lord,
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we ask that you
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would illuminate us
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as we read your word.
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You would guide us
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in your truth.
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You would help us
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to submit to it,
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to understand it,
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to preach it
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and teach it
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and to follow it,
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to be filled with joy,
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with love,
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with humility,
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with peace
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and gracefulness
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and thankfulness.
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Lord,
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above all,
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we thank you
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for the forgiveness
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of sins
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that was wrought
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on the cross
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by your son Jesus.
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And we pray this
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in his mighty name.
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Amen.
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Okay,
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I went a little bit over
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but we do have time
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for Q&A.
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If you do have to go,
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feel free.
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Otherwise,
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raise hands,
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ask questions.
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I'm happy to stick around.
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Yes,
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Ralph.
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You use the phrase
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apostolic authorship
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or oversight.
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Yeah.
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Why do you have
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oversight?
-
Great question.
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The question is,
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I mentioned apostolic documents
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or documents
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that have apostolic oversight
-
and that's because
-
there are documents
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in the New Testament
-
that were not written
-
by the immediate
-
disciples of Jesus.
-
They were written
-
by their contemporary disciples,
-
the disciples of the disciples,
-
so to speak.
-
So documents like
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the Gospel of Mark,
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Gospel of Luke,
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Acts,
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because Luke wrote Acts.
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And so,
-
but those were not
-
just written,
-
you know,
-
far after the fact,
-
apart from the apostles.
-
They seem to have
-
apostolic supervision.
-
So,
-
for instance,
-
there's good early
-
historical evidence
-
that when Mark wrote Mark,
-
he was transcribing
-
Peter's teachings,
-
he was putting it down
-
that Peter approved
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of this.
-
Same with Luke,
-
is that there's evidence
-
that Paul affirmed
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and approved
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Luke's ministry
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and the Gospel of Luke.
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So,
-
that's why I said
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apostolic oversight.
-
We do have some
-
early Christian documents
-
outside of the New Testament
-
that were written
-
by disciples
-
of the apostles,
-
but those were written
-
much later.
-
They were not written
-
under apostolic oversight.
-
So,
-
those are things like
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Clement of Rome
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writing in 95 AD,
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Ignatius of Antioch,
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he wrote seven letters
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around 105,
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107,
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Polycarp of Smyrna,
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he wrote a letter
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at the same time.
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Those were disciples
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of the disciples.
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They wrote letters,
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but they weren't written
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under apostolic oversight.
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I would say timing,
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but also,
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I think,
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they need to be
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associates of the apostles.
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I mean,
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if we did find
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an early Christian document
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that came from like
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45 AD,
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but it's just
-
a person in the church,
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that wouldn't
-
necessarily qualify.
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Okay.
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In Bauckham's book,
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it talks about,
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the Pius talks about,
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what you were just talking about,
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this oral tradition
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and oral history.
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Can you
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elaborate on the difference?
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The difference between
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oral tradition,
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oral history.
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So,
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oral tradition.
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when Pope Pius was writing,
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he was getting it
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from the last two
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living people,
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but that before him
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it was oral history
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being handed down,
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like you said,
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from Mark.
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Yes,
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so,
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Raul's bringing up
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another early Christian writer
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named Papias,
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who,
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we don't have his books,
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they've been lost,
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except we do have
-
some large quotations
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from his books
-
that are found
-
in other early Christian writers,
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and he seems to have known
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some of the disciples of Jesus
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and he records some things
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that he learned.
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He talks about
-
how Mark wrote Mark,
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for instance.
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He mentions Matthew,
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writing Matthew.
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This idea of oral tradition
-
and oral history,
-
there was,
-
I mean,
-
when you read the New Testament,
-
Paul says to the churches,
-
he says,
-
be faithful to the traditions
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we handed down to you.
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And by that,
-
what he means is
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he's giving them
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the gospel message
-
that Jesus gave to him.
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Jesus entrusted this to Paul.
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Paul is now entrusting it
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to others.
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And in the early church,
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it wasn't always written down.
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Today,
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I believe,
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when we talk about
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apostolic tradition,
-
what we're now talking about
-
is the 27 book New Testament.
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But in the ancient church,
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before all these documents
-
were written down,
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you know,
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you would have someone
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who knew the apostles
-
tell you what's going on
-
about the gospel,
-
things like that.
-
And so,
-
that's probably what
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they're getting at.
-
This is not like
-
a game of telephone.
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Sometimes you see
-
a characterization of this
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where, you know,
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someone whispers something
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in someone's ear
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who whispers another ear
-
and it just gets
-
horribly distorted.
-
This is a very public,
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open proclamation
-
that is checked
-
all the time.
-
If you look at
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the ancient church,
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you know,
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Paul writes,
-
is it to the Colossians
-
or the Ephesians
-
and he writes to them
-
and he says,
-
you know,
-
make sure you read my letter
-
from the church of Laodicea.
-
Make sure you read that
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and make sure you read
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this letter publicly
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in your church.
-
He's telling them,
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you need to read this publicly.
-
You need to distribute it
-
and circulate it.
-
And so,
-
there was a lot of
-
checks and balances going on.
-
It wasn't like
-
a free for all,
-
so to speak.
-
Yeah.
-
Yes?
-
What about the
-
Douay version?
-
Don't they have that
-
like Apocrypha
-
or whatever it is?
-
Oh,
-
so,
-
the New Testament,
-
the 27 book New Testament
-
is the same
-
in every single
-
Christian church.
-
The Old Testament
-
is a little different.
-
So,
-
the Old Testament,
-
yes,
-
yes.
-
So,
-
they call the Apocrypha
-
or Catholic churches.
-
What happens is that
-
the Apocrypha
-
is additional books
-
of the Old Testament
-
that are usually
-
originally written
-
in Greek,
-
not Hebrew,
-
and,
-
or Aramaic.
-
And,
-
they were written,
-
our Old Testament
-
stops around 400 B.C.
-
and these Apocryphal documents
-
fill in that
-
intermediate period
-
between
-
the
-
end of the
-
Hebrew,
-
Aramaic,
-
Old Testament
-
and the beginning
-
of the New Testament.
-
The Malachi.
-
Malachi.
-
So,
-
yeah,
-
we have Malachi
-
and then
-
they have like
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1st and 2nd Maccabees
-
and things like that.
-
And,
-
you know,
-
if you read
-
1st and 2nd Maccabees,
-
they're good reads
-
and I,
-
I think
-
God clearly was
-
working amongst
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the Jewish people
-
in the story
-
of the Maccabees.
-
Remarkable,
-
miraculous things
-
are happening.
-
I don't think
-
Maccabees is
-
inspired scripture
-
but it doesn't mean
-
that it's not
-
talking about
-
God's
-
working in history,
-
so to speak.
-
So,
-
but,
-
but that apocryphal
-
section
-
that the Catholics
-
add,
-
the Orthodox,
-
the Eastern Orthodox,
-
they also have it
-
but it's a slightly
-
different version
-
and then you go
-
to other
-
ancient churches
-
like the Ethiopian
-
Orthodox Church
-
or the Coptic
-
Orthodox Church
-
and they also
-
have this apocryphal
-
but again,
-
they're all slightly
-
different between
-
themselves.
-
They don't agree
-
on which ones
-
are in there.
-
This debate
-
about whether
-
to include
-
these books,
-
the early church
-
had many debates
-
about this
-
and most
-
of the,
-
great scholars
-
of the ancient church
-
like Saint Jerome,
-
he was the one
-
who translated
-
the Bible
-
into Latin.
-
He was very clear,
-
he's like,
-
I think it really
-
should only be
-
the Hebrew books
-
that are included.
-
The earliest
-
Jewish lists
-
of their Bible,
-
the Old Testament,
-
seem to not
-
include the apocryphal books
-
so I think
-
the firmest ground
-
is
-
the,
-
an Old Testament canon
-
that is based
-
on the Hebrew
-
and Aramaic documents.
-
These also
-
seem to be,
-
that seems to
-
reflect the
-
Old Testament
-
of the apostles
-
and of Jesus
-
also.
-
But,
-
that's a whole
-
other,
-
whole other bit.
-
Matt?
-
Am I right
-
in thinking
-
that the
-
Protestant
-
Old Testament,
-
what we use,
-
is the same
-
group of scriptures
-
that Jews
-
use today
-
and we have used
-
throughout history?
-
It's certainly
-
the same one
-
that if you go back
-
to the very
-
earliest Jewish lists,
-
it seems to match up
-
with the very
-
earliest Jewish lists
-
and it's part
-
of the,
-
when you get
-
a Hebrew Bible
-
today,
-
it has the same
-
books that we have.
-
They have them
-
in a different order
-
but it's the same,
-
it's the same.
-
Other questions?
-
We have,
-
we have gone
-
well over time
-
so feel free to go.
-
Thank you so much.
-
Amos?
-
I've heard,
-
I've heard some people
-
say that they think
-
there might be
-
a total of four letters
-
to the Corinthians.
-
Yeah,
-
there might have been.
-
So what I'm wondering
-
is,
-
where are the,
-
That's a great question.
-
I don't know how
-
to phrase it but,
-
so we know,
-
there might have been
-
more than 27
-
and maybe God
-
just said,
-
okay,
-
yes,
-
so,
-
so,
-
remember that
-
the apostles
-
clearly wrote more
-
than the 27 books
-
of the New Testament
-
because they're going
-
to be writing letters
-
to one another,
-
they're going to be
-
signing tax receipts,
-
I mean,
-
they're going to be
-
doing all sorts of stuff
-
and when you read,
-
and we know they did
-
because when you read
-
1 Corinthians,
-
Paul mentions
-
in 1 Corinthians
-
a previous letter
-
he'd written to them
-
and so we know
-
there was something
-
before 1 Corinthians.
-
He also seems to mention
-
another one
-
in 2 Corinthians maybe
-
and so there's some theories
-
that maybe there's actually
-
two lost letters.
-
He mentions an epistle
-
to the Laodiceans
-
in one of his letters
-
that we don't have.
-
There are theories
-
about that.
-
Some people think
-
that that letter
-
is actually the letter
-
to the Ephesians
-
because Ephesians
-
seems to be
-
a circular letter
-
that included Ephesus
-
but was a larger number
-
of cities
-
than just Ephesus
-
and that could have been
-
the letter
-
to the Laodiceans.
-
There is an ancient
-
letter to the Laodiceans
-
that you can go
-
and look up and read.
-
It's like a paragraph long.
-
Most people don't think
-
that's actually Paul's letter
-
to the Laodiceans
-
but as to like
-
what do we do with that?
-
Like what do we do
-
with the idea
-
that the apostles
-
wrote other stuff
-
and we don't have it?
-
Well, the Old Testament
-
is the same way.
-
I mean the Old Testament
-
will say go read this book
-
and we don't have it.
-
It'll say go read
-
the Wars of Yahweh
-
or something
-
or the Book of Jasher
-
or something like that
-
and those are lost to us
-
and so practically
-
there's really nothing
-
we can do at this point.
-
It'll become a live issue
-
if we find
-
one of these documents.
-
That will become
-
like a really live issue
-
of what do we do with this?
-
I think though
-
I don't think
-
we're going to find
-
a New Testament document
-
and the reason why
-
is because
-
in the early church
-
they didn't talk
-
about documents
-
that were from the apostles
-
that we think
-
actually were from the apostles
-
that we no longer have.
-
They didn't
-
there's nothing out there
-
that they're like
-
well that church
-
was reading
-
you know
-
3 Peter
-
and we don't have this.
-
That doesn't come up.
-
I would think
-
the closest
-
that we could get to it
-
is that Gospel
-
of the Hebrews
-
which seems to be
-
the Hebrew version
-
of Matthew
-
and there's a debate
-
we're missing
-
we have quotations
-
of this gospel
-
but we don't have
-
the whole thing
-
and from the quotations
-
it seems like
-
it was basically
-
the Gospel of Matthew
-
but it had some
-
additional information
-
in it
-
at certain points
-
and the debate is
-
is this from Matthew?
-
Did he write this
-
and then translate
-
his into Greek
-
or what happened?
-
And we know
-
when you read
-
the New Testament
-
we know that
-
the apostles
-
just like any author
-
just like any ancient
-
author as well
-
they did edit
-
their documents
-
they didn't just
-
sit down
-
do stream of consciousness
-
and just send it
-
I mean they went over it
-
and you see this
-
with Paul
-
in Romans
-
where his scribe
-
just inserts a line
-
from himself
-
he says
-
oh and I tertius
-
who wrote this letter
-
greet you
-
which it's not Paul
-
writing that
-
it's the scribe
-
or in the
-
Gospel of John
-
John is writing
-
but then there's
-
a couple points
-
where it switches
-
to third person
-
where it says
-
we know
-
the disciple
-
who wrote this
-
and we know
-
that what he says
-
is true
-
and what seems
-
to be happening
-
is that
-
and we have
-
early Christian
-
evidence of this
-
is that when
-
John was writing
-
he had some
-
companions
-
some of whom
-
may have also
-
been disciples
-
of Jesus
-
who he's writing
-
this down
-
and they
-
then add
-
this kind of
-
little epilogue
-
to it
-
John almost
-
certainly was there
-
for that
-
but this process
-
of writing
-
maybe something
-
happened with
-
the Gospel
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of Matthew
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like that
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too
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maybe Matthew
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is writing
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these things
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and maybe
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that's what
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the Gospel
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of Hebrews
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is
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that's the
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closest I think
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we could get
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to something
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that the
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apostles
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may have written
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and published
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that we somehow
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don't have anymore
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we might find it
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and realize
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actually all the
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quotations we have
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cover all the
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different stuff
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so we never
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really lost it
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we might find
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this is just
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some later
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Hebrew translation
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of the Greek
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that it's just
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a later
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Christian translation
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where someone
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added something
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in
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I don't know
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but that would
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be the only
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one
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if there's some
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amazing
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archaeological
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discovery
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in Corinth
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and they come
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up with four
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letters of the
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Apostle Paul
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I gotta say
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I would love
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that
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I think it'd
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be like the
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greatest thing
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ever
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I don't think
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we should be
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threatened by
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that
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I'd be so
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excited by
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that
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it'd be
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great
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the apostles
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they were
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sinners too
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I mean
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they clearly
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commit sins
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left and right
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throughout the
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New Testament
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they're not
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perfect
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so would
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these documents
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be part of
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the word of
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God
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we'd have to
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see
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I mean
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clearly not
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everything
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you know
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when Peter
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is writing a
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letter to his
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wife about
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something about
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groceries
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like we're
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not gonna
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expect that
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that's inspired
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by God
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so you know
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we just have to
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see what
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happens
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I think it'd
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be really
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cool
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all right
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thank you
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guys
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thank you
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so much
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thanks
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me
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you
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you
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you