Sermon
God As One; God As Three; God As Three in One
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Prayer. Our Father in heaven, grant us precisions of word and thought, Father, in true faith.
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Give us the light of understanding by your Holy Spirit. Enable us to believe what you have spoken
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in your word, that you are one and the only true God, existing in Father, Son, and Spirit.
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Humble us, Lord, by the complexity of the matter at hand. In the present Jesus' name, amen.
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Good morning. So today we begin a series on the attributes of God. I'm glad we have this time together.
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A.W. Tozer in his book, The Knowledge of the Holy, says the most important thing about you
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is what comes into your mind when you think about God. Not what you say or do or what you say about
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yourself, but what you deeply in your heart conceive God to be like. Your knowledge of God.
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In a way, our salvation depends on our knowledge of God. Jesus said,
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This is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God in Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
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We must know God. Not carnal knowledge about him, but true knowledge based upon the word and spirit.
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So, not just knowing about diamonds, where it's found underneath the earth and made of carbon atoms,
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its value in the marketplace. But the knowledge we gain when we gaze upon a beautiful, sparkling diamond,
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beholding it within its splendor. That's the kind of first-hand knowledge of God that we must have.
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And a high view of God sees God as holy, high, and lifted up.
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Helping us to see ourselves rightly as sinful, in a need of grace.
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A low view of God is idolatry, and a mere figment of our imagination.
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A high view of God leads to humility and reverence.
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A low view of God leads to shallow worship and pride.
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What you think about God affects your politics.
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It affects your view of history. It affects your marriage.
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It affects how you endure trials. How you understand persecution.
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It affects everything.
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And in fact, your whole life is being driven by how you conceive God to be like.
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Everyone is a theologian. Everyone has this view of God in their minds.
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So, in this class, my prayer is that we remove the blurriness of God's character,
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and that it comes into sharper view,
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so that our whole lives would be to live for God's honor and praise.
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Jeremiah 4, verse 23 says,
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Thus says the Lord,
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Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom.
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Let not the mighty man boast in his might.
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Let not the rich man boast in his riches.
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But let him who boasts boast in this,
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that he understands and knows me.
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And so to that end, we're going to begin today with the doctrine of the Trinity.
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And this is somewhat unusual.
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Normally, if you read a book about the attributes of God,
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it begins with things like God is a spirit, God is omniscient, God is holy, God is loving.
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And Lord willing, we will get to those things.
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But I chose this topic first because when we discuss the attributes of God,
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they are the attributes of the triune God,
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applying equally to the Father, Son, and Spirit.
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So the Trinity will help us to understand how can God be the kind of God he is.
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Now, what is the Trinity?
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Where is that chapter and verse where the Bible defines the Trinity?
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Well, as you probably know, the word Trinity is not in the Bible.
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You don't find a point-by-point exposition of the Trinity.
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Does that mean it's not in the Bible?
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Well, we'll see.
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The word Trinity comes from the Latin trinitas, which means threeness.
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So even though the word is not in the Bible, it captures an essential truth.
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So let's begin with a definition.
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Wayne Grudem helpfully has defined the Trinity as this.
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God eternally exists as three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,
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and each person is fully God, and there is one God.
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So each person is fully God, and there is one God.
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And to understand the importance of the Trinity,
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I want to tell you a story of a heroic man in the early church,
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a man from Africa of great courage and faithfulness.
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And this man defended the truth of Christ's deity against the raging assault of Satan.
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And this man was named Athanasius.
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In Athanasius' day, many inside the church actually excommunicated those who confessed that Jesus is Lord.
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In fact, Athanasius himself was exiled five times, thrown out of his church, and then called back,
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always standing up for the truth.
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And during that time, many older people in the church were allowing wolves to ravage Christ's flock.
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And by the year 300, the orthodoxy that Jesus is Lord was threatened with lies and heresy
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by a man named Arius.
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And Athanasius was only in his 20s, remarkably, when he entered into the public arena.
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And one of the examples in history where the younger generation was calling the older generation back to biblical faithfulness,
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and associated with Athanasius came the Latin phrase,
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Athanasius Contramundum, Athanasius against the world,
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a man who stood against the world in defense of the truth.
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So may God raise up more men and women who are more concerned with being faithful to God's word
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than receiving the world's applause.
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And it was indeed a dark moment.
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The false doctrine from Aries spread rapidly during the early church.
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And what was Arianism?
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Well, Aries rightly said that there was only one God.
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But then disastrously, he wrongly reasoned that if Jesus was the Son of God,
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then he must have had a beginning.
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He's the Son.
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He must have had a beginning.
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Right?
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And therefore, there must have been a time where Jesus did not exist,
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and only the Father was eternal.
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And this came to be known as Arianism, which denies the full deity of Christ.
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And we see these ancient heresy in modern times.
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Oneness Pentecostals, who were kicked out of the assemblies of God many years ago.
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Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses.
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There's nothing new under the sun.
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But by God's grace, in a moment of great triumph, in 315 AD,
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the church sent representatives to the city of Nicaea to wrestle with the Scripture and to clarify their position.
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And the rest is history.
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There they formulated the Nicene Creed, which contains these important lines.
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And when you read the Nicene Creed, think of begotten as meaning as the same essence as,
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and essence as the same godness as.
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So these are important lines.
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We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
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begotten, so of the same essence as, the Father before all ages,
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God from God, light from light, true God from true God,
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begotten, not made, of the same essence as the Father, of the same godness as the Father.
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And later in 381, a statement was added about the deity of the Spirit,
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which forms the modern Nicene Creed.
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And there, in the three great ecumenical creeds,
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the Apostles, the Nicene, and the Athanasian Creed,
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are all structured around this threeness and oneness.
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And these creeds are like letters from our spiritual ancestors,
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warning us against dangerous theological mistakes that have threatened the church in the past.
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But sadly, many in our modern day have not saw fit to have
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that humble listening of the past.
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Matt referenced last week that Ligonier study on the state of theology done for Americans.
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And it is clear that even in our own day,
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the doctrine of the Trinity is outright rejected by those who claim to be Christians.
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So the question was this,
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Jesus was a great teacher, but he was not God.
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In 2020, 30% of American evangelicals agreed that Jesus is not God.
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In 2022, that jumped to 43%.
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That's amazing and saddening, a travesty.
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Before we begin, let's ask the question,
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why does this even matter?
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Someone might object,
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I worship God, we don't need these distinctions.
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It's so abstract and vague.
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People throwing around terms like essence and begotten,
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co-this and co-that, it just seems so irrelevant.
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We don't need these distinctions as long as someone worships God.
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However they conceive him to be,
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that's what's most important, right?
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We worship God.
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Well, to the contrary,
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Jesus disagrees with that.
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Remember in Jesus' last discourse,
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on the night of his betrayal,
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before going to the cross,
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before the darkness of the crucifixion,
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Jesus prays for his disciples
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in his high priestly prayer.
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And you can imagine the importance of these words.
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In his hour of crisis,
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before you go away,
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what will you say to the frightened disciples?
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What would you say?
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Stop being so anxious.
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You're always so anxious.
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Or I'll be right back.
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You know, BRB.
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He doesn't say those things.
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Instead, to get through the crisis,
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Jesus is saying,
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I need you to have a deeper understanding of God.
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And he begins teaching them about the Trinity
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and the sweet fellowship
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between the Father, Son, and Spirit.
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In John 17,
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Holy Father, keep them in your name,
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which you have given me,
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and they may be one,
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even as we are one.
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Or verse 22,
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The glory that you have given me,
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I have given to them,
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that they may be one,
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even as we are one.
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I in them,
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and you in me,
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that they may become perfectly one.
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And the high priestly prayer
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underlines the glorious mystery of the Trinity.
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And so for the Lord Jesus,
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this isn't a speculative topic.
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It's entirely practical.
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It helps us in times of suffering
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and persecution.
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And likewise,
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early Christians were passionate
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about this topic,
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not because they were interested
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in speculative philosophy
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or scholastic theology.
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No, because they wanted to worship
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the Lord rightly.
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And I would venture to say
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that preserving this truth
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in the Nicene Creed
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helped the church persevere
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through years of severe persecution.
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And if that is so,
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friends,
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the church
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must remove this blurriness
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and provide clarity
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on this important topic.
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And many Roman Catholic apologists
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will actually say,
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well, see,
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that's why you need
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the Roman Catholic Church,
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the big C.
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Because you cannot prove
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the Trinity from the Scripture.
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You need the councils
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and the creeds,
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but we must disagree
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with them there.
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because ultimately,
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we prove not our case,
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not from the church fathers,
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however helpful they may be
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as a humble listening
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of the past,
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but ultimately to the Scriptures.
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We must look to the Scriptures
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as the foundation of our faith.
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And so our goal
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in our time together
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is to expound scripturally
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of the Trinity.
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God is one,
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and God is in three persons,
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and discuss why this matters.
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And so to do this,
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we have to do three things
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to prove the Trinity
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from the Scripture.
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First, we must show
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that God is one.
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Second, three in one.
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The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
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are all God.
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Each person is fully God.
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And third,
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these three persons
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are not identical.
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And then we'll spend some time
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thinking about application.
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So point number one.
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God is one.
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God is one.
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So the first thing
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we must say
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that Christians believe,
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just as Jews believe,
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is that God is one.
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And many accuse Christians
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of being polytheists.
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Right?
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Accusing Christians
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of believing in three gods.
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And while it is true
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that Christians believe
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in a plurality,
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it is not polytheism.
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So Christians would hardly affirm
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Deuteronomy 6, verse 4.
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Hear, O Israel,
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the Lord our God,
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the Lord is one.
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You shall love the Lord your God
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with all your heart,
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with all your soul,
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with all your might.
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So God is one.
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This is referred to
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as the Shema,
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because the first word here
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is the Hebrew word Shema.
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Shema, O Israel.
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And Israel was to understand
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there is one God.
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In contrast to all
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the other surrounding nations
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who worship many false gods,
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Israel was to worship
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the one and only true God.
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There is one creator God.
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The creator God of Israel
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is the God who created
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the heavens and the earth
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and who redeemed the people
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out of slavery
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to be his special people.
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But in another sense,
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the Shema means for Israel
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not only to say
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that God is one,
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but God, you are the one.
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Like in a love relationship.
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God, you are the only one
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my heart desires.
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The one I will love
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with all my heart,
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my soul, my mind, and strength.
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And marriage pictures
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that exclusive love,
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does not,
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an unbreakable love
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between God and his people.
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And the first commandment
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is you shall have
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no other gods before me.
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An exclusive loyalty
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to Yahweh as their king.
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And the people in exchange
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are his treasured possession.
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And the heart of the Old Testament
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is a call for Israel
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to worship God
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as their one and only true God
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and worship him alone.
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And this is a God
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who will have no rivals.
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His glory he will not share
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with another.
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He alone is God,
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utterly unique,
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ultimate authority.
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At his command,
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the Red Sea was parted.
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In the ten plagues,
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he shows his supremacy
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over all the other false gods
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of the Egyptians.
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He can make the sun
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stand still at his word.
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I am the Lord God.
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That is my name.
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My glory I give to no other,
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nor my praise to carved idols.
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So all glory and praise
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are due his name alone.
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And God speaks authoritatively
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about the past
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and the future.
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He's in absolute control
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of all things.
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And there are only two possibilities.
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Either God is reigning
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or he is being ruled over.
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And the Old Testament
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is emphatic that God is reigning.
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Isaiah 44, verse 6,
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Thus says the Lord,
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the King of Israel
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and his Redeemer,
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The Lord of hosts,
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I am the first
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and I am the last.
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Besides me,
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there is no God.
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Who is like me?
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Let him proclaim it.
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Is there a God besides me?
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There is no rock.
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I know not any.
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Or Deuteronomy chapter 32,
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verse 39,
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See now that I,
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even I am he,
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and there is no God beside me.
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I kill,
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I make alive,
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I wound,
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I heal,
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and there is none
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that can deliver
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out of my hands.
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Because he's in full control,
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fully sovereign,
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fully reigning,
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there is none
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that can deliver
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out of his hands.
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There is none beside him
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or over him.
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Isaiah chapter 45,
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verse 22,
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Turn to me
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and be saved
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to all the ends
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of the earth.
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For I am God
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and there is no other.
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And so consistent
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in the Old Testament
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is that there is only one God.
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And the New Testament
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actually affirms
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that God is one.
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Jesus affirms
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those Shema in Mark 12.
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You'll recall
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one of the scribes
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asked Jesus,
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Which commandment
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is the most important of all?
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Jesus answered,
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The most important is,
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Hear, O Israel,
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the Lord our God,
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the Lord is one.
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So Jesus affirms
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that God is one.
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In 1 Corinthians 8,
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when resolving the question
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of meat sacrifice to idols,
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Paul says,
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We know that no idol
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is anything in the world
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and there is no God
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but one.
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James says,
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You believe that God is one.
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You do well.
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Even demons believe
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and shudder.
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So the demons
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can affirm the Nicene Creed.
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1 Timothy 2, 5,
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For there is one God
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and there is one mediator
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between God and men,
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the man,
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Christ Jesus.
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Ephesians 4, 6,
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One God and Father of all
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who is over all
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and through all
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and in all.
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Lastly,
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1 Timothy 1, 17.
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The king of the ages,
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immortal, invisible,
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the only God,
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be honor and glory
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forever and ever.
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So rewind in Genesis 1.
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This one God
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created all things.
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Unlike other pagan
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cosmic stories
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where creation is a result
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of God's fighting
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against each other,
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one God speaks the world
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into existence
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by his word.
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Ex nihilo.
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Out of nothing,
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he creates.
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Ten times,
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you're reading
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the opening chapter,
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and God said,
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and it was so.
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And God has supreme authority
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over all creation.
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He is not some tribal God,
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but he is the king
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whom every person
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will give an account.
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And this is the one
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who created Adam and Eve
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in his own image.
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There is only one God.
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There are not three gods.
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There is only one.
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So the response
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to this oneness, right,
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makes Muslims and Jews
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say,
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that's right,
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God is one.
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So therefore,
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the Trinity is excluded, right?
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One plus one plus one
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equals three.
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Right?
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Father, Son, Spirit,
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that's three gods.
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If God is one,
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that excludes Jesus
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and the Holy Spirit's deity.
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But this is not so.
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Not at all.
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So let's look at
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the Old Testament again
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and examine this criticism.
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And B.B. Warfield
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in his book,
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The Biblical Doctrine
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of the Trinity,
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has an insightful comment
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about the nature
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of the Old Testament's
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witness about the Trinity.
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He says this,
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The Old Testament
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may be likened
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to a chamber
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richly furnished,
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but dimly lit.
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The introduction
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of light
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brings into it
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nothing
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which was not
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in it before,
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but brings out
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into clear view
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much what was in it,
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but was only dimly lit.
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That's a paraphrase.
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So what he's noting here
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is important,
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that the nature
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of the scripture
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is progressive.
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It's progressive.
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So God reveals
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himself in stages.
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So the Trinity
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is more clear
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in Isaiah
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than it is in Genesis.
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It's more clear
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in the New Testament
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than it is in Isaiah.
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So the nature
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of the scripture
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is progressive.
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The light
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is getting brighter
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and then when the light
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of the New Testament
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is brightest,
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we can go back
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into the Old Testament
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and see things
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that were dimly lit,
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but not at all perceived.
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It's like we know
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more now
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than they did back then.
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Right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly.
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So we can go back
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into the Old Testament
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knowing what we know
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about God
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in the New
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and see things
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that were there
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all along.
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And so the church fathers
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thought
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this was very important
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to go back
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into the Old Testament
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and to see hints
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or footprints,
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they would call it.
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I think it's called
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the vestigia trinitatis.
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So it's the footprint
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or shadows
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of the triune nature
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of God
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in the Old Testament.
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So I want to throw out
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a question for us here
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is where in the Old Testament
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is the plurality
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of God implied?
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And I have some here
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as you can see.
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Genesis 1
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and the Spirit of the Lord
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hovered over
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and then
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when
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the angel of the Lord
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makes an appearance
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that's the pre-incarnate Christ.
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Yeah.
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And then God.
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When does God
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ever make an appearance?
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The angel of the Lord
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is fascinating, right?
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He's a fascinating figure.
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He appears
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in numerous
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points
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and angels
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refuse worship, right?
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Yeah.
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In Revelation.
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Yeah, 22.
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The Revelation
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the angel says
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don't do that.
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I'm a fellow servant.
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Don't worship me.
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But this angel
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accepts worship.
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It appears
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he has God's name, right?
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And God sends him out
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so it's
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he has a name of God
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but at the same time
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he's distinct from God.
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So a lot of people
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have seen the angel
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of the Lord
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as being
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Jesus says
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in Israel
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the spirit of the Lord
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was upon me.
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You know
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he quotes Isaiah
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as another
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yeah the spirit
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of the spirit.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So we have Genesis.
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We have the angel
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of the Lord.
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Is there any other place
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that the plurality
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Olivia?
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I don't know where
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somewhere
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in the Old Testament
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it's called
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the man of God
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or the son of man
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like a scene
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where they eat
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under a tree
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but a lot of people
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think it's Jesus
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or Elijah
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or the plurality of God
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and then there's
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there's I think
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one more place
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that's all the new trees.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm thinking
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when you say
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the son of man
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I was thinking
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of Daniel 9
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where the son of man
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is given all authority
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sovereign power
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and glory
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and it's like
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who is this son of man
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who is presented
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to the ancient of days
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and is given
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an eternal dominion
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an eternal kingdom.
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It's puzzling right?
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So where is the plurality
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of God implied
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in the Old Testament?
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So we have
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the angel of the Lord
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there's the Daniel
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there's certain places
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where it seems
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that there are
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a divine figure
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that appears.
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Yeah.
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The plurality
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of God implied.
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The servant passages
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in Isaiah
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come to mind.
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They're not
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they're
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they're
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very shadowy
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but
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they're very much
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perfect
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once Jesus comes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The servant
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the servant
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comes
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and seems
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to have
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the attributes
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of God
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the servant
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will save
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his people
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from their sins
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but who can save
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a God alone?
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Who is the servant
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that Isaiah speaks of?
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And Moses
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talking about
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there's going to come
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a God
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will rise up
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a prophet
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after me
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and listen to him.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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But does that
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passage not
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if you listen to
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that passage
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you're just expecting
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a prophet
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you want to be
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God
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and I'm sorry
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I can't wait
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to say
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the context
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of the question
-
he was speaking
-
about Jesus
-
Yeah
-
because Jesus
-
well the prophet
-
Deuteronomy 18
-
where it says
-
Moses
-
there will be
-
a prophet
-
like me
-
and listen to him
-
and the prophet
-
will say things
-
that will come true
-
and that's the way
-
you should know
-
that he's a true prophet
-
and I think Jesus
-
his resurrection
-
right
-
he says
-
I'm going to be
-
raised up on the third day
-
and when
-
it happens
-
it is the
-
the prophet
-
that Moses spoke of
-
but it's
-
he's
-
not necessarily
-
the deity of God
-
I mean
-
the deity of Christ
-
but it does
-
vindicate Christ
-
in what
-
all I said
-
was true
-
Yeah
-
And it wasn't even yet
-
he had to wait
-
for David
-
to come
-
and then after David
-
Jesus
-
came
-
Yeah
-
So Moses was talking
-
about two people
-
ahead of him
-
Yeah
-
To clarify
-
I don't disagree
-
what I'm saying
-
is that that passage
-
itself
-
does not talk
-
about Jesus
-
as
-
Moses was not God
-
so if Moses said
-
I'm a prophet
-
like me
-
Yeah
-
That passage
-
in the context
-
it's actually
-
it's not the plurality
-
It's not the plurality
-
of God
-
it's
-
it's
-
it's affirming
-
the truthfulness
-
of what Christ said
-
and all that he did
-
and
-
yes
-
I agree
-
and some of the things
-
he said was
-
I'm the Father
-
I want
-
Yeah
-
Tom
-
Maybe I missed this
-
I stepped out for a second
-
but
-
the
-
Hebrew word for God
-
Elohim
-
is plural
-
but it's singular
-
it's used as a singular
-
verb
-
but it's a plural noun
-
referring to God
-
which is
-
puzzling
-
and it's
-
there's this plurality
-
in
-
the Godhead
-
seemingly
-
just in his name
-
Yeah
-
You can say the same thing
-
from
-
the Shema
-
you're always real
-
the Lord your God
-
the Lord is one
-
because
-
it uses
-
three different names
-
for God
-
it's the Yahweh
-
and the Elohim
-
and then
-
this is a little more complicated
-
but in the Hebrew manuscripts
-
they didn't want to say Yahweh
-
so they vocalized it
-
with Abed and I
-
so it's like
-
Yahweh
-
anyway
-
it's
-
the classic
-
you know
-
God is one passage
-
there's actually
-
three names
-
of lies
-
for God
-
Yeah
-
that is good
-
that is good
-
Sneaky
-
hints
-
I want you to get this
-
but
-
I'm going to stick this in here too
-
for here
-
like you'll get it
-
someday
-
Yeah
-
Right now
-
after coming out of Egypt
-
with all these
-
multiple gods
-
I want you to get
-
God as one
-
but
-
later on
-
remember
-
that's
-
that's so true
-
Romans 8 16
-
the spirit of God
-
bears witness to our spirit
-
that we are children
-
that's a reference to the spirit
-
yes
-
yeah
-
the spirit is equally God
-
exactly
-
and all these
-
and so many
-
so much more
-
if you look in the Old Testament
-
right
-
you can see
-
hints
-
footprints
-
shadows
-
of the triune nature of God
-
not explicitly stated
-
but you can go back
-
after the
-
of the New Testament
-
the light shines
-
and see like
-
oh yeah
-
I see that there were
-
the Old Testament authors
-
were not uncomfortable
-
using plural forms
-
of nouns
-
for God
-
like why is that
-
but
-
and
-
one other
-
is
-
the
-
Genesis 2
-
which we
-
we talked about
-
that
-
let us make man
-
in our image
-
after our likeness
-
and
-
Genesis 3
-
verse 22
-
the Lord God said
-
the man has now become
-
like one of us
-
knowing good and evil
-
he wasn't talking to angels
-
well and it's interesting
-
because
-
the
-
non
-
you know
-
some people could say
-
look
-
the church fathers
-
you can go and find
-
anything you want
-
in the Old Testament
-
if you have an agenda
-
I can go find
-
anything I want
-
if I'm going to go
-
in there looking for it
-
but even non-Christians
-
wrestle with this passage
-
of Genesis 2 and 3
-
so many Jewish rabbis
-
contradict each other
-
fumbling in an explanation
-
of what is going on
-
in Genesis 2
-
some rabbis point
-
that the us and our
-
is Genesis
-
as God speaking
-
with angels
-
and other rabbis
-
like no that cannot be
-
we did not
-
God
-
angels didn't create us
-
we're not creating
-
the image of angels
-
that just cannot be
-
and one Jewish writer
-
in the 2nd century BC
-
wrote a book
-
called Jubilee
-
and he had a lengthy
-
quote of Genesis
-
and he just dropped
-
the plural self-reference
-
out of it
-
so that's one way
-
of avoiding the problem
-
just avoid it
-
by deleting it
-
from your quotation
-
and I think
-
that just shows
-
the early church
-
were not reading
-
back into the Old Testament
-
things that weren't there
-
if Jewish
-
non-Christians
-
were wrestling
-
with the same issues
-
with the plurality
-
that's implied
-
and you know
-
the us and our
-
from a New Testament
-
perspective
-
we can say
-
this is intra-Trinitarian
-
conversation
-
so let us make man
-
in our image
-
and I think
-
when John writes
-
in the beginning
-
was the word
-
the word was God
-
was with God
-
right
-
Jesus was clearly there
-
the spirit is there
-
and the scripture
-
is hinting at
-
that there is a plurality
-
within the God
-
even in their act
-
of creation
-
and so our response
-
to the Muslim
-
is that there is one God
-
but there is a plurality
-
and that is attested
-
to in the Old Testament
-
one other
-
one I wanted to speak about
-
was Psalm 110
-
Psalm 110
-
Psalm 110
-
was the
-
verse 1
-
was Jesus'
-
favorite verse
-
in the Bible
-
to quote from
-
it's quoted
-
in 24 separate
-
or alluded to
-
in 24 different times
-
and Psalm 110
-
verse 1
-
says
-
the Lord
-
says to my Lord
-
sit at my right hand
-
until I make your enemies
-
your footstool
-
and the Lord
-
Yahweh
-
is speaking to
-
another person
-
whom he calls Lord
-
right
-
and this other person
-
clearly within the context
-
of the psalm
-
is the Messiah
-
David's messianic son
-
and this one
-
in Psalm 110
-
who sits at God's right hand
-
who triumphs over his enemies
-
he is a priest
-
in the order of Melchizedek
-
he has divine power
-
to judge the nations
-
to shatter kings
-
in his wrath
-
so the Lord
-
is speaking to the Lord
-
this Messiah
-
it's a puzzling
-
reality
-
what is going on
-
and Jesus quotes this
-
in his dispute
-
with the Pharisees
-
who are attacking him
-
Jesus says to the Pharisees
-
who do you think
-
of the
-
what do you think
-
of the Christ
-
whose son is he
-
they answer
-
the son of David
-
then he said
-
how is it
-
that David
-
in the spirit
-
calls the Messiah
-
Lord
-
and I think
-
it's the same
-
it's the same
-
Yahweh speaks
-
to Adonai
-
in Psalm 110
-
and I don't know
-
how fully
-
David understood
-
this
-
what he was saying
-
but under the
-
inspiration
-
of the spirit
-
he's somehow
-
saying that
-
the Lord
-
is speaking
-
to another
-
person
-
whom is called
-
Lord
-
the God
-
the Father
-
is speaking
-
to the Son
-
sit at my right
-
hand
-
until I make
-
your enemies
-
your footstool
-
in Isaiah 9
-
this Messiah
-
is called
-
Mighty God
-
Everlasting Father
-
Prince of Peace
-
and again
-
this Messiah
-
will save
-
his people
-
from their sins
-
in Isaiah 53
-
but who can save
-
from our sins
-
but God alone
-
who is this Messiah
-
that David
-
and Isaiah
-
speak about
-
so those
-
are the hints
-
it's there
-
but it's
-
you know
-
we don't know
-
it could be
-
is God
-
three persons
-
is God
-
more than
-
three persons
-
from the Old Testament
-
we can't
-
we can't say
-
for sure
-
but one of the
-
remarkable things
-
is that once you
-
open the pages
-
of the New Testament
-
the Trinity
-
isn't so much
-
explained
-
but it's assumed
-
throughout the
-
whole narrative
-
and so what was
-
vaguely hinted at
-
in the Old Testament
-
now becomes clear
-
you know
-
some say
-
Jesus never claimed
-
to be God
-
except in a few
-
lines in John's
-
Gospel that were
-
added much later
-
is that right
-
does the New Testament
-
affirm Jesus deity
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes they do
-
yes
-
there's scholars
-
that now
-
are acknowledging
-
that ancient
-
Judaism
-
did have
-
that is pluralistic
-
pluralistic
-
conception
-
of their
-
one God
-
and that
-
the phenomenon
-
of Judaism
-
denying that
-
is a recent
-
it's a recent
-
phenomenon
-
it's post-Christian
-
that I would say
-
was in response
-
to Christianity
-
but if you read
-
the first century
-
Jewish text
-
first century
-
BC AD
-
they seem to all
-
acknowledge this
-
many of them
-
anyway
-
and then
-
that's lost
-
once you go through
-
the Christian
-
centuries
-
so I think
-
they knew it
-
it wasn't
-
they may not have
-
the exact
-
conception
-
you know
-
a precise
-
trinity
-
but they knew
-
there was this
-
plurality
-
it wasn't just
-
David said
-
something
-
everybody forgot
-
it
-
I think
-
they were
-
aware
-
yeah
-
that's a good
-
point
-
so even
-
historically
-
this plurality
-
has been
-
part of the
-
Jewish faith
-
and it's not
-
something the
-
church fathers
-
just kind of
-
came up with
-
that thin air
-
yeah
-
I think we can
-
emphatically say
-
yes
-
the New Testament
-
affirms
-
Jesus DHU
-
Pastor Matt
-
preached on
-
Mark 2
-
a couple weeks
-
ago
-
Jesus is Lord
-
of the Sabbath
-
he's Lord
-
over God's law
-
Jesus receives
-
worship
-
after the
-
resurrection
-
Thomas says
-
my Lord
-
and my God
-
Jesus doesn't
-
say look
-
I'm your Lord
-
but not your
-
God
-
what are you
-
doing
-
he says
-
no no no
-
he accepts
-
worship
-
he's like
-
yes
-
he accepts
-
worship
-
that is due
-
God alone
-
and in
-
Revelation
-
the Lamb
-
on the throne
-
is worshipped
-
he receives
-
that which is
-
due to God
-
alone
-
he not only
-
receives worship
-
he takes on
-
divine titles
-
right
-
he is given
-
the name
-
Savior
-
but Isaiah
-
43
-
God says
-
I even
-
I am the
-
Lord
-
apart from
-
me
-
there is
-
no Savior
-
and Jesus
-
the name
-
Jesus
-
literally means
-
Savior
-
Savior
-
and not only
-
Savior
-
but he takes
-
on the name
-
of Shepherd
-
right
-
John 10
-
and David
-
would say
-
the Lord
-
is my
-
shepherd
-
and there's
-
many other
-
titles that
-
Jesus takes
-
on
-
Redeemer
-
the Son
-
of Man
-
the True
-
Vine
-
the Bridegroom
-
clearly alluding
-
to God's
-
work in the
-
Old Testament
-
the I am
-
statements
-
in the
-
Gospel
-
of John
-
are filled
-
with allusions
-
to Jesus
-
deity
-
one of the
-
I am
-
statements
-
for example
-
is I am
-
the light
-
of the world
-
and that
-
gives life
-
to the world
-
he's recalling
-
the wilderness
-
experience
-
and the
-
pillar of fire
-
that led
-
Israel
-
through
-
the desert
-
so any
-
listener
-
would have
-
understood
-
that light
-
was a picture
-
of the light
-
of God
-
himself
-
and the
-
light
-
metaphor
-
is where
-
the light
-
of God's
-
glory
-
is present
-
as God
-
led the
-
people
-
through the
-
wilderness
-
to salvation
-
Jesus
-
saying I
-
will lead
-
my people
-
out of
-
darkness
-
into the
-
light of
-
salvation
-
through my
-
life and
-
death
-
and so
-
these I am
-
statements
-
are alluding
-
to God's
-
work in the
-
Old Testament
-
and he
-
not only takes
-
on titles
-
like Savior
-
Shepherd
-
Redeemer
-
and Lord
-
he has
-
divine works
-
right
-
he forgives
-
sins
-
but who
-
can forgive
-
sins
-
but God
-
alone
-
as a Pharisee
-
is recognized
-
they were
-
rights
-
only God
-
can forgive
-
sins
-
because ultimately
-
as David
-
said
-
I've sinned
-
against God
-
and him
-
alone
-
my sin
-
against
-
Bathsheba
-
and Uriah
-
he stops
-
the wind
-
at his
-
word
-
what kind
-
of man
-
is this
-
says the
-
disciples
-
even the
-
winds
-
and sea
-
obey him
-
answer
-
he's God
-
right
-
he's God
-
he even
-
commands
-
the forces
-
of nature
-
and there's
-
more we can
-
say
-
the apostles
-
consistently
-
gave the
-
title Lord
-
to Jesus
-
in their
-
letters
-
1 Corinthians
-
8-6
-
Paul says
-
yet for us
-
there is
-
one God
-
the Father
-
from whom
-
are all
-
things
-
and for
-
whom we
-
exist
-
and one
-
Lord
-
Jesus Christ
-
through whom
-
are all
-
things
-
and through
-
whom we
-
exist
-
and it's
-
interesting
-
that is
-
1 Corinthians
-
8-6
-
people will
-
point out
-
that is
-
the Shema
-
and Paul
-
is inserting
-
Jesus
-
into that
-
as describing
-
him as
-
Lord
-
there is
-
one God
-
in 1 Corinthians
-
8-6
-
so Paul
-
calls him
-
Lord
-
through whom
-
all things
-
exist
-
and the word
-
Lord in the
-
New Testament
-
is the
-
Hebrew
-
word
-
translated
-
into the
-
Greek
-
Kyrios
-
Kyrios
-
and that is
-
the word
-
that is used
-
to describe
-
Jesus
-
over and
-
over again
-
and that
-
same word
-
is used
-
over 6,000
-
times in
-
the Old
-
Testament
-
to describe
-
God
-
so Jesus
-
is fully
-
God
-
and you
-
will call
-
Jesus
-
in John
-
8
-
calls himself
-
Yahweh
-
before Abraham
-
was I am
-
and the Pharisees
-
understood what
-
he was saying
-
because they
-
picked up
-
stones to
-
kill him
-
for blasphemy
-
right
-
they would
-
be right
-
he's calling
-
himself
-
God
-
except that
-
it was
-
true
-
Jesus
-
was God
-
understandable
-
reaction
-
you're only
-
50 years old
-
you're saying
-
you saw
-
Abraham
-
face to
-
face
-
he existed
-
2,000 years
-
ago
-
and Jesus
-
was saying
-
I am God
-
and they
-
understood
-
what he was
-
saying
-
because they
-
picked up
-
stones
-
to kill
-
him
-
God
-
came to
-
earth
-
and he
-
killed
-
him
-
yes
-
his people
-
knew him
-
not
-
yes
-
yes
-
Jesus
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes
-
the love
-
of God
-
Jesus is the
-
image of the
-
invisible God
-
as Hebrews 1
-
says
-
so
-
the eternal
-
son of God
-
light from
-
light
-
true God
-
from true
-
God
-
we don't need
-
to pick a
-
couple verses
-
from John
-
to prove
-
Jesus deity
-
it is
-
throughout
-
the entire
-
New Testament
-
so let's
-
talk about
-
the Holy Spirit
-
the third
-
distinct person
-
from the
-
Trinity
-
of the
-
one God
-
the Father
-
is God
-
Jesus
-
is God
-
and the
-
Holy Spirit
-
is God
-
and these
-
are distinct
-
persons
-
despite there
-
being only
-
one God
-
I hope
-
your mind
-
is just
-
kind of
-
getting a little
-
confused now
-
how can that
-
be possible
-
there being
-
one God
-
and three
-
distinct
-
persons
-
in the
-
one God
-
and some
-
people will
-
say I
-
don't really
-
get this
-
whole business
-
about the
-
Holy Spirit
-
that's just
-
the word
-
for the
-
breath
-
the wind
-
the power
-
of God
-
working
-
through the
-
world
-
right
-
they don't
-
see the
-
Holy Spirit
-
as a
-
distinct
-
person
-
and Christians
-
who grew up
-
with the
-
KJV
-
anyone
-
grew up
-
with the
-
KJV
-
here
-
KJV
-
there you
-
go
-
I'm
-
familiar
-
with the
-
term
-
Holy Ghost
-
and the
-
Holy Ghost
-
it has
-
connotations
-
of distance
-
of an
-
impersonal
-
God
-
who's a
-
ghost
-
the Holy Ghost
-
right
-
it's like
-
who is
-
the Spirit
-
I mean
-
and
-
in many
-
passages
-
the Holy
-
Spirit
-
is spoken
-
of
-
impersonal
-
terms
-
we tend
-
to think
-
of the
-
Holy Spirit
-
as a
-
force
-
but the
-
Holy Spirit
-
is a
-
person
-
right
-
and frequently
-
does
-
activities
-
that belong
-
to personhood
-
so right
-
before the
-
cross
-
Jesus
-
expresses
-
an
-
internal
-
intimacy
-
with the
-
Father
-
and he
-
promises
-
to send
-
the Holy
-
Spirit
-
onto the
-
church
-
one
-
distinct
-
from both
-
the
-
Father
-
and the
-
Son
-
and the
-
Holy Spirit
-
is the
-
paraclete
-
the helper
-
the advocate
-
it says
-
that
-
God
-
decrees
-
Jesus
-
accomplishes
-
and the
-
Holy Spirit
-
applies
-
to salvation
-
yes
-
it's all
-
Trinitarian
-
in the end
-
yes
-
our whole
-
faith is
-
Trinitarian
-
yes
-
now why
-
did Jesus
-
have to
-
leave
-
before the
-
Holy Spirit
-
comes
-
well
-
that's easy
-
because God
-
wanted it to
-
be that
-
way
-
I actually
-
don't know
-
why
-
Jesus had
-
to leave
-
before the
-
Spirit
-
comes
-
maybe it's
-
because Jesus
-
was
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes
-
yes
-
yeah
-
at a
-
at a
-
Pentecost
-
yeah the
-
Spirit
-
is poured
-
out
-
but yeah
-
so there's
-
the Jesus
-
as a
-
sense
-
and the
-
Spirit
-
comes
-
down
-
and the
-
Spirit
-
in John
-
14
-
26
-
is the
-
helper
-
the
-
one
-
whom
-
the
-
Father
-
will
-
send
-
in my
-
name
-
he
-
will
-
teach
-
you
-
all
-
things
-
and
-
bring
-
to your
-
remembrance
-
all that
-
I have
-
taught
-
you
-
and so
-
the
-
Holy Spirit
-
teaches
-
us
-
right
-
the
-
Spirit
-
enables
-
them
-
to
-
remember
-
he
-
bears
-
witness
-
with
-
our
-
spirit
-
that
-
we
-
are
-
the
-
children
-
of
-
God
-
the
-
Holy
-
Spirit
-
helps
-
us
-
in
-
our
-
weakness
-
he
-
intercedes
-
for
-
us
-
with
-
groanings
-
too
-
deep
-
for
-
words
-
right
-
the
-
Spirit
-
understands
-
our
-
needs
-
and
-
Paul
-
in
-
1 Corinthians
-
4
-
the
-
Spirit
-
searches
-
everything
-
he
-
knows
-
every
-
aspect
-
of
-
the
-
depths
-
of
-
God
-
and
-
he
-
makes
-
God
-
known
-
so
-
that's
-
one of
-
the
-
roles
-
of the
-
Spirit
-
is
-
to
-
make
-
God
-
known
-
he
-
applies
-
the
-
work
-
of
-
redemption
-
in
-
our
-
hearts
-
1 Corinthians
-
12
-
verse
-
11
-
the
-
Spirit
-
gives
-
gifts
-
to
-
each
-
one
-
individually
-
as
-
he
-
wills
-
so
-
the
-
Spirit
-
gives
-
us
-
for
-
service
-
Acts
-
16
-
verse
-
6
-
Paul
-
is
-
traveling
-
through
-
Asia
-
as they
-
attempted
-
to go
-
into
-
Bithynia
-
and it
-
says
-
the Spirit
-
does not
-
allow
-
them
-
to
-
go
-
and so
-
the Spirit
-
is preventing
-
them from
-
going
-
somewhere
-
the Holy
-
Spirit
-
talks
-
he says
-
to
-
Philip
-
go and
-
join
-
the
-
chariot
-
so
-
the Spirit
-
speaks
-
to
-
Philip
-
and
-
of
-
course
-
the Spirit
-
can be
-
grieved
-
and
-
troubled
-
by what
-
we
-
do
-
so
-
the
-
Spirit
-
possesses
-
full
-
deity
-
of
-
the
-
Godhead
-
Raul
-
mentioned
-
earlier
-
the
-
deity
-
of
-
the
-
Spirit
-
in
-
the
-
work
-
of
-
creation
-
where
-
the
-
Spirit
-
is
-
hovering
-
over
-
the
-
waters
-
in
-
the
-
birth
-
narratives
-
Jesus
-
is
-
conceived
-
by
-
the
-
Spirit
-
the
-
Spirit
-
leads
-
Jesus
-
into
-
the
-
wilderness
-
where
-
Satan
-
tempts
-
him
-
and
-
after
-
he
-
overcomes
-
temptation
-
he
-
goes
-
forth
-
in
-
So
-
the
-
Holy
-
Spirit
-
is
-
equally
-
God
-
and
-
distinct
-
from
-
the
-
Father
-
and
-
the
-
Son
-
So
-
in
-
summary
-
there's
-
one
-
God
-
there are
-
not
-
three
-
gods
-
but
-
there's
-
one
-
God
-
but
-
there are
-
three
-
persons
-
who
-
are
-
distinct
-
from
-
each
-
other
-
the
-
Father
-
is
-
God
-
the
-
Son
-
is
-
God
-
the
-
Spirit
-
is
-
God
-
but
-
the
-
Father
-
is
-
not
-
the
-
Son
-
nor
-
the
-
Spirit
-
the
-
Spirit
-
is
-
not
-
the
-
Father
-
nor
-
the
-
Son
-
they're
-
not
-
identical
-
so
-
and
-
this
-
is
-
clear
-
from
-
Jesus
-
in
-
the
-
Great
-
Commission
-
all
-
authority
-
in
-
heaven
-
and
-
on
-
earth
-
is
-
given
-
to
-
me
-
go
-
therefore
-
make
-
disciples
-
of
-
all
-
nations
-
baptizing
-
in
-
the
-
name
-
the
-
one
-
name
-
of
-
the
-
Father
-
of
-
the
-
Son
-
and
-
of
-
the
-
Holy
-
Spirit
-
teaching
-
them
-
to
-
observe
-
all
-
that
-
I
-
have
-
commanded
-
so
-
there's
-
one
-
God
-
in
-
three
-
persons
-
so
-
let's
-
say
-
something
-
about
-
some
-
common
-
mistakes
-
that
-
analogies
-
I
-
want
-
to
-
get
-
to
-
analogies
-
so
-
we
-
can
-
say
-
that
-
analogies
-
could
-
be
-
helpful
-
right
-
if
-
you
-
an
-
analogy
-
might
-
help
-
you
-
understand
-
some
-
of
-
this
-
oneness
-
and
-
threeness
-
but
-
I
-
think
-
if
-
we
-
go
-
right
-
to
-
the
-
analogy
-
we
-
actually
-
end
-
up
-
misrepresenting
-
the
-
triunity
-
of
-
God
-
so
-
Christians
-
will
-
say
-
well
-
God
-
is
-
one
-
but
-
he
-
appears
-
in
-
three
-
different
-
forms
-
right
-
so
-
oftentimes
-
this
-
mistake
-
is done
-
when we
-
start
-
analogizing
-
God
-
has
-
three
-
different
-
masks
-
that
-
he
-
puts
-
on
-
that's
-
called
-
modalism
-
yes
-
God
-
appears
-
in
-
different
-
modes
-
and
-
so
-
God
-
is
-
like
-
H2O
-
sometimes
-
he's
-
water
-
sometimes
-
he's
-
ice
-
sometimes
-
he's
-
steam
-
and
-
that's
-
kind
-
of
-
water
-
is
-
appearing
-
in
-
different
-
forms
-
but
-
the
-
problem
-
is
-
if
-
water
-
can
-
turn
-
into
-
steam
-
but
-
can
-
the
-
father
-
turn
-
himself
-
into
-
the
-
spirit
-
no
-
he
-
can't
-
and
-
there's
-
no
-
situation
-
where
-
it's
-
water
-
steam
-
and
-
ice
-
and
-
they're
-
all
-
three
-
at
-
once
-
right
-
so
-
it's
-
not
-
it's
-
not
-
like
-
the
-
it's
-
not
-
a
-
good
-
analogy
-
for
-
the
-
trinity
-
although
-
we
-
can
-
that
-
might
-
be
-
helpful
-
but
-
it
-
ultimately
-
falls
-
short
-
God
-
can't
-
turn
-
himself
-
into
-
the
-
spirit
-
because
-
God
-
is
-
the
-
spirit
-
there
-
is
-
no
-
turning
-
he
-
is
-
yes
-
one
-
is
-
like
-
a
-
man
-
who
-
is
-
a
-
father
-
and
-
a
-
brother
-
and
-
a
-
son
-
all
-
together
-
right
-
so
-
I'm
-
a
-
man
-
I'm
-
also
-
a
-
father
-
I'm
-
a
-
husband
-
I'm
-
a
-
son
-
three
-
in
-
one
-
right
-
well
-
that
-
doesn't
-
work
-
either
-
because
-
that
-
denies
-
the
-
distinctions
-
within
-
the
-
Godhead
-
it's
-
that
-
doesn't
-
so
-
all
-
analogies
-
ultimately
-
fail
-
us
-
I
-
haven't
-
heard
-
of
-
a
-
good
-
analogy
-
I
-
mean
-
they
-
could
-
be
-
comprehension
-
and
-
it's
-
that
-
makes
-
sense
-
doesn't
-
it
-
if
-
God
-
says
-
that
-
my
-
ways
-
are
-
not
-
your
-
ways
-
my
-
thoughts
-
are
-
above
-
your
-
thoughts
-
of
-
course
-
we're
-
not
-
going to
-
find
-
an
-
analogy
-
that
-
perfectly
-
corresponds
-
one to
-
one
-
with
-
who
-
God
-
is
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
words
-
escape
-
us
-
words
-
escape
-
us
-
try
-
to
-
define
-
who
-
God
-
is
-
and
-
what
-
he
-
is
-
the
-
words
-
fail
-
I
-
got
-
it
-
up
-
here
-
I
-
just
-
don't
-
have
-
it
-
when
-
the
-
words
-
come
-
out
-
yes
-
yes
-
like
-
Augustine
-
said
-
what is
-
needed
-
is a
-
loving
-
profession
-
of
-
ignorance
-
rather
-
than a
-
rash
-
profession
-
of
-
knowledge
-
yeah
-
we need
-
to
-
profess
-
our
-
ignorance
-
and
-
not
-
like
-
rashly
-
professed
-
our
-
knowledge
-
of
-
the
-
matter
-
yeah
-
so
-
let's
-
pause
-
for a
-
moment
-
and ask
-
ourselves
-
how does
-
the plurality
-
of God
-
help us
-
understand
-
God's
-
character
-
because this
-
is an
-
attributes
-
of God
-
class
-
how does
-
that help
-
us
-
understand
-
God's
-
character
-
God
-
well
-
there's a
-
big
-
difference
-
between
-
the
-
conception
-
of
-
Allah
-
and
-
a
-
Christian's
-
view
-
of
-
the
-
triune
-
God
-
so
-
if we
-
deny
-
the
-
trinity
-
and
-
let's
-
say
-
God
-
was
-
like
-
Allah
-
God
-
would
-
need
-
his
-
creation
-
to be
-
loving
-
would
-
he
-
not
-
can
-
you
-
love
-
anything
-
if you
-
have been
-
in solitary
-
confinement
-
since
-
eternity
-
past
-
no
-
you
-
need
-
an
-
object
-
to
-
love
-
to
-
be
-
loving
-
and
-
the
-
scripture
-
presents
-
the
-
father
-
son
-
and
-
spirit
-
being
-
in
-
eternal
-
relationship
-
and
-
fellowship
-
with
-
each
-
other
-
in
-
eternity
-
past
-
they
-
have
-
loved
-
each
-
other
-
from
-
eternity
-
past
-
it's
-
out of
-
this
-
love
-
and
-
joy
-
that
-
they
-
create
-
the
-
world
-
or
-
else
-
if
-
they
-
weren't
-
together
-
in a way
-
you'd
-
have to
-
say
-
God
-
needs
-
creation
-
to be
-
loving
-
but
-
that's
-
not
-
it's
-
like
-
in
-
C.S.
-
Lewis's
-
Narnia
-
the
-
magician's
-
nephew
-
Aslan
-
sings
-
creation
-
into
-
existence
-
it's
-
a happy
-
voice
-
out
-
of
-
love
-
and
-
it's
-
as if
-
God
-
sings
-
the
-
world
-
into
-
existence
-
in
-
Genesis
-
1
-
and
-
it's
-
out
-
of
-
this
-
love
-
and
-
joy
-
that
-
he
-
makes
-
us
-
and
-
it's
-
in
-
Christ
-
God
-
is
-
drawing
-
us
-
into
-
that
-
three
-
person
-
love
-
that
-
has
-
always
-
existed
-
to
-
have
-
the
-
sweet
-
fellowship
-
with
-
the
-
Trinity
-
the
-
father
-
when he
-
views
-
us
-
in
-
Christ
-
has
-
the
-
same
-
love
-
for
-
us
-
as
-
he
-
does
-
for
-
his
-
very
-
own
-
son
-
he's
-
drawing
-
us
-
into
-
that
-
three
-
person
-
world
-
of
-
love
-
that
-
has
-
always
-
existed
-
from
-
eternity
-
past
-
and
-
God
-
and we
-
could
-
understand
-
that
-
God
-
was
-
the
-
father
-
was
-
eternally
-
a
-
father
-
right
-
he
-
didn't
-
become
-
a
-
father
-
once
-
creation
-
was
-
was
-
done
-
in
-
Genesis
-
1
-
he
-
was
-
always
-
a
-
father
-
and
-
the
-
son
-
was
-
always
-
a
-
son
-
who
-
loved
-
his
-
father
-
and
-
honored
-
him
-
and
-
so
-
God
-
is
-
a
-
God
-
of
-
love
-
because
-
God
-
is
-
a
-
triune
-
God
-
and
-
we
-
are
-
created
-
in
-
the
-
image
-
of
-
God
-
ought
-
we
-
not
-
to
-
do
-
the
-
same
-
right
-
so
-
we're
-
created
-
in
-
this
-
triune
-
God
-
image
-
and
-
we
-
ought
-
to
-
be
-
loving
-
each
-
other
-
so
-
let me
-
speak
-
to
-
fathers
-
just
-
for a
-
moment
-
fathers
-
or
-
future
-
fathers
-
in
-
some
-
families
-
the
-
father
-
is
-
absent
-
right
-
or
-
uninvolved
-
in
-
their
-
children's
-
lives
-
in
-
some
-
cases
-
I've
-
known
-
men
-
who
-
have
-
never
-
heard
-
their
-
father
-
say
-
I
-
love
-
you
-
the
-
father
-
never
-
said
-
it
-
yeah
-
never
-
said
-
it
-
what
-
a
-
distortion
-
of
-
the
-
character
-
of
-
God
-
the
-
father
-
right
-
as
-
the
-
father
-
said
-
to
-
the
-
son
-
you
-
are
-
my
-
beloved
-
son
-
in
-
whom
-
I
-
am
-
well
-
pleased
-
as
-
the
-
father
-
said
-
that
-
to
-
the
-
son
-
we
-
as
-
fathers
-
should
-
say
-
the
-
same
-
right
-
to
-
our
-
children
-
and
-
that's
-
the
-
character
-
of
-
the
-
father
-
that
-
we
-
are
-
imaging
-
as
-
fathers
-
and
-
I
-
just
-
so
-
fathers
-
just
-
be
-
obnoxious
-
about
-
this
-
right
-
we
-
need
-
to
-
be
-
constantly
-
saying
-
this
-
to
-
our
-
kids
-
tell
-
your
-
kids
-
that
-
you
-
love
-
them
-
you
-
delight
-
in
-
them
-
every
-
single
-
day
-
don't
-
just
-
tell
-
them
-
that
-
you
-
love
-
them
-
but
-
actually
-
love
-
them
-
and
-
if
-
you
-
have
-
young
-
kids
-
play
-
with
-
your
-
kids
-
I
-
think
-
that's
-
teaching
-
a
-
profound
-
lesson
-
about
-
the
-
nature
-
of
-
God
-
and
-
God
-
the
-
father
-
when
-
fathers
-
take
-
on
-
the
-
role
-
of
-
loving
-
care
-
for
-
their
-
children
-
and
-
we
-
are
-
imaging
-
the
-
triune
-
nature
-
of
-
God
-
as
-
Raul
-
said
-
our
-
faith
-
is
-
Trinitarian
-
at
-
its
-
core
-
so
-
whoever
-
has
-
saving
-
faith
-
has
-
been
-
drawn
-
by
-
the
-
father
-
moved
-
by
-
the
-
spirit
-
to
-
confess
-
Jesus
-
is
-
lord
-
of
-
all
-
and
-
forgiveness
-
happens
-
because
-
the
-
father
-
puts
-
forward
-
the
-
son
-
the
-
righteous
-
one
-
in
-
exchange
-
for
-
the
-
unrighteous
-
and
-
satisfies
-
God's
-
wrath
-
against
-
sin
-
and
-
the
-
spirit
-
applies
-
that
-
work
-
of
-
redemption
-
to
-
our
-
hearts
-
so
-
it's
-
one
-
unified
-
program
-
right
-
the
-
spirit
-
intercedes
-
for
-
us
-
bringing
-
our
-
prayers
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
in
-
groanings
-
too
-
deep
-
for
-
words
-
as
-
Jesus
-
our
-
great
-
high
-
priest
-
always
-
lives
-
to
-
make
-
intercession
-
for
-
us
-
always
-
working
-
as
-
one
-
amen
-
so
-
who
-
should
-
we
-
pray
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
the
-
son
-
and
-
the
-
holy
-
spirit
-
who
-
should
-
we
-
pray
-
to
-
yes
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
exactly
-
amen
-
brother
-
yes
-
pray
-
I'll
-
just
-
say
-
it's
-
okay
-
to
-
pray
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
son
-
or
-
spirit
-
but
-
I
-
will
-
say
-
Jesus
-
pray
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
a
-
lot
-
and
-
I
-
think
-
the
-
pattern
-
is
-
praying
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
through
-
the
-
son
-
by
-
the
-
spirit
-
but
-
we
-
also
-
have
-
examples
-
where
-
Stephen
-
is
-
praying
-
to
-
the
-
Lord
-
Jesus
-
in
-
Acts
-
so
-
even
-
though
-
they're
-
all
-
three
-
they're
-
three
-
in
-
one
-
one
-
in
-
three
-
there
-
is
-
a
-
pattern
-
that
-
we're
-
praying
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
through
-
the
-
son
-
by
-
the
-
holy
-
spirit
-
but
-
having
-
said
-
that
-
it
-
is
-
okay
-
to
-
pray
-
to
-
you
-
know
-
but
-
Jesus
-
could
-
he
-
can
-
only
-
pray
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
he
-
can't
-
pray
-
to
-
himself
-
right
-
yeah
-
he's
-
the
-
trinity
-
he's
-
part
-
of
-
the
-
trinity
-
pray
-
to
-
yourself
-
yeah
-
our
-
father
-
in
-
heaven
-
yeah
-
so
-
so
-
I
-
want to
-
throw
-
this
-
out
-
a
-
question
-
so
-
other
-
ways
-
that
-
the
-
trinity
-
helps
-
us
-
to
-
understand
-
something
-
about
-
ourselves
-
made
-
in
-
the
-
image
-
of
-
God
-
so
-
how
-
does
-
the
-
trinity
-
help
-
us
-
understand
-
something
-
about
-
ourselves
-
made
-
in
-
God's
-
image
-
I'll
-
say
-
that
-
something
-
I love
-
about
-
the
-
trinity
-
is
-
this
-
idea
-
that
-
God
-
is
-
ruling
-
and in
-
charge
-
but
-
God
-
also
-
knows
-
what
-
it's
-
like
-
to
-
submit
-
and
-
to
-
honor
-
like
-
the
-
son
-
honors
-
the
-
father
-
and
-
we're
-
called
-
to
-
do
-
that
-
but
-
God
-
has
-
been
-
doing
-
that
-
from
-
eternity
-
in
-
person
-
of
-
Jesus
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
yeah
-
so
-
that
-
reflects
-
us
-
as
-
our
-
calling
-
and
-
we
-
all
-
are
-
in
-
charge
-
of
-
certain
-
things
-
as
-
well
-
we have
-
that
-
father
-
aspect
-
also
-
yeah
-
so
-
submission
-
to
-
authority
-
isn't
-
inherently
-
dehumanizing
-
as
-
some
-
would
-
say
-
because
-
the
-
son
-
submits
-
himself
-
to
-
the
-
father
-
yeah
-
it's
-
true
-
yeah
-
I've
-
always
-
had
-
this
-
problem
-
that
-
I
-
always
-
ask
-
myself
-
did
-
Jesus
-
save
-
did
-
God
-
save
-
me
-
because
-
he
-
liked
-
me
-
because
-
he
-
loved
-
me
-
because
-
I
-
got a
-
lot
-
of
-
Christian
-
brothers
-
and
-
sisters
-
that
-
I
-
just
-
don't
-
like
-
but
-
I'm
-
called
-
to
-
love
-
them
-
yeah
-
you know
-
I mean
-
I'm sure
-
there's a lot
-
that's not
-
likable about
-
me
-
a lot
-
of people
-
but
-
they're
-
called
-
to love
-
me
-
and I'm
-
called
-
to love
-
them
-
and that's
-
a big
-
mystery
-
you know
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
Ivor
-
that whole
-
thing is no
-
mystery
-
you need
-
to come
-
from a
-
large
-
family
-
I don't
-
like that
-
but you
-
love them
-
you love
-
them
-
I think
-
that
-
there's
-
something
-
too
-
that
-
our
-
three in
-
one
-
God
-
was a
-
family
-
before
-
creation
-
but then
-
that he
-
is our
-
creator
-
that means
-
we belong
-
to him
-
or
-
so
-
probably
-
I struggle
-
a lot
-
too
-
with whether
-
God likes
-
me
-
or not
-
but he
-
doesn't
-
think
-
he created
-
us
-
in his
-
image
-
yeah
-
that image
-
is marred
-
by sin
-
but he
-
restores
-
that
-
right
-
like there's
-
there's no
-
need to hate
-
myself
-
because God
-
restores the
-
goodness
-
in me
-
I resist
-
I make it
-
slower
-
sometimes
-
but he's
-
patient
-
so
-
yeah
-
God is
-
God is a
-
family God
-
and he
-
doesn't mind
-
dealing
-
he came down
-
into our
-
space
-
to deal
-
with the
-
mess
-
and to
-
live with
-
us
-
brings
-
the
-
transcendent
-
I think
-
I wonder
-
if that
-
tension
-
of
-
light
-
and love
-
I think
-
also
-
helps
-
or
-
reflects
-
the tension
-
between
-
us being
-
justified
-
and sanctified
-
I think
-
in the sense
-
in which
-
God loves
-
us
-
but like
-
Abraham
-
in some
-
way was
-
a friend
-
of God
-
there is
-
a place
-
of being
-
known
-
and like
-
you know
-
who
-
and when
-
Jesus
-
talks about
-
those who
-
obey my
-
commandments
-
and I
-
think when
-
we sin
-
we suffer
-
his displeasure
-
and I
-
think it's
-
fair to
-
say in
-
those moments
-
like
-
maybe he
-
wouldn't
-
like us
-
the same
-
way we
-
think about
-
others
-
but I
-
think the
-
bedrock
-
of love
-
doesn't
-
change
-
what
-
changes
-
is the
-
nuance
-
of
-
you say
-
fellowship
-
for
-
life
-
and
-
so
-
I
-
think
-
it's
-
a way
-
to think
-
about
-
those two
-
times
-
when we
-
distance
-
from God
-
because of
-
our sin
-
and our
-
sin makes
-
us feel
-
distant
-
from God
-
and God
-
is essentially
-
using that
-
as a way
-
to draw us
-
close to him
-
but I
-
don't know
-
that it
-
is
-
and to
-
purify
-
it
-
I think
-
both of
-
those
-
perceptions
-
do have
-
a role
-
in reminding
-
us that
-
the goal
-
is to
-
grow deeper
-
in fellowship
-
and in love
-
with God
-
but it
-
starts with
-
the bedrock
-
of his
-
love for us
-
and actually
-
without that
-
that idea
-
of being like
-
by him
-
is not even
-
possible
-
I think
-
we can't
-
destroy the
-
dignity
-
we've been
-
given as
-
made in God's
-
image
-
that's
-
been really
-
important for
-
me
-
is
-
his
-
displeasure
-
lasts for a
-
moment
-
but his
-
love
-
lasts for a
-
moment
-
I was reading
-
a book by
-
Michael Horton
-
I got it
-
downstairs in
-
my lending
-
library
-
when the
-
apostles
-
or the
-
disciples
-
were in
-
the boat
-
in the
-
sea of
-
Galilee
-
and the
-
waves came
-
up
-
and they
-
were
-
master
-
master
-
we're
-
going to
-
drown
-
wake up
-
and he
-
was just
-
asleep
-
and Michael
-
Horton
-
in one of
-
his books
-
in the
-
face of
-
God
-
the dangers
-
of spiritual
-
intimacy
-
talks about
-
oh the
-
waves are
-
getting big
-
let's wake
-
them up
-
we might
-
drown
-
no it
-
was a
-
dreaded
-
fear
-
when
-
Job
-
was before
-
God
-
in the
-
pillar
-
of the
-
cloud
-
or when
-
Moses saw
-
the backside
-
of God
-
it was
-
like
-
this
-
gentle
-
man
-
in the
-
front
-
of this
-
boat
-
can kill
-
us
-
it's not
-
the water
-
that we
-
should be
-
afraid of
-
or the
-
wind that
-
he stopped
-
it's him
-
it's him
-
and he
-
loves us
-
but he
-
can just
-
like
-
in a
-
second
-
but he
-
doesn't
-
you know
-
it's like
-
wow
-
our God
-
is a
-
consuming
-
fire
-
yet he
-
loves us
-
and stoops
-
and loves
-
us
-
it just
-
blows my
-
mind
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
you know
-
he's crazy
-
around
-
it is
-
interesting
-
that the
-
first reaction
-
that people
-
in the
-
Bible have
-
when they
-
see
-
God
-
is not
-
of like
-
this is
-
great
-
but like
-
fear
-
right
-
like
-
I'm a
-
man of
-
unclean
-
lips
-
you're
-
going to
-
destroy
-
God
-
but then
-
God
-
invites
-
him
-
he
-
he
-
washes
-
him
-
clean
-
invites
-
him
-
in
-
so
-
it's
-
this
-
yeah
-
his
-
holiness
-
is
-
the
-
basis
-
of
-
our
-
our
-
fear
-
but his
-
holiness
-
actually
-
draws us
-
in
-
into
-
fellowship
-
with
-
him
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
it's an
-
amazing
-
it's like a
-
three-year-old
-
kid watching
-
his son
-
his father
-
who was a
-
lumberjack
-
cut lumber
-
and he said
-
this is my
-
daddy
-
he can
-
destroy me
-
but he
-
loves me
-
yeah
-
he'll never
-
hurt me
-
right
-
yeah
-
you know
-
and it's like
-
that's how we
-
should be
-
with God
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
all this
-
truck
-
but he
-
won't
-
hurt us
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
yeah
-
he already
-
he struck
-
the sun
-
once
-
he won't
-
he won't
-
strike us
-
a second
-
time
-
yes
-
amen
-
brother
-
let me just
-
finish up
-
and I
-
have just a
-
few more
-
thoughts
-
we
-
imitate
-
the journey
-
in our
-
life
-
together
-
in our
-
families
-
and at
-
the
-
church
-
when we
-
mutually
-
love one
-
another
-
in the
-
church
-
we're
-
imaging
-
something
-
of God
-
himself
-
for people
-
outside
-
the church
-
as in
-
each
-
plays
-
as part
-
in the
-
grand play
-
of redemption
-
something
-
like
-
who God
-
is
-
between the
-
father son
-
and spirit
-
and we
-
said our
-
marriages
-
model something
-
of eternity
-
the wife
-
is not
-
inferior
-
and the
-
husband
-
is not
-
inferior
-
the children
-
are not
-
inferior
-
even though
-
they may
-
work differently
-
in the house
-
right
-
we're all
-
creating the
-
image of God
-
even if some
-
of us play
-
different roles
-
than others
-
and finally
-
the Trinity
-
should curb
-
intellectual pride
-
God calls
-
us to faith
-
in the absence
-
of a comprehensive
-
explanation
-
God is one
-
God is three
-
it doesn't
-
explain how
-
this is
-
and
-
as Christians
-
we receive it
-
by faith
-
someone once
-
asked a man
-
Daniel Webster
-
a prominent
-
orator
-
in the 19th
-
century
-
how a man
-
of his intellect
-
could believe
-
in contradiction
-
that three
-
equals one
-
Webster
-
replied
-
I do not
-
fully
-
pretend to
-
understand
-
the arithmetic
-
of heaven
-
now
-
but the
-
doctrine
-
of the
-
Trinity
-
doesn't
-
mean that
-
three
-
equals
-
it's not
-
a contradiction
-
but it
-
does show
-
a humility
-
in approaching
-
the subject
-
and so
-
with that
-
friends
-
we've reached
-
a little
-
bit
-
there's so
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much more
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we can
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plumb the
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depths of
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and that's
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why we
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worship an
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awesome
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God
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who is
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beyond
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our
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finite
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comprehension
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so let me
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pray
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and if there's
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any other
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questions
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we can do
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that
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Father in
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heaven
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we do
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thank you
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for the
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light of
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understanding
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by your
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word
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by special
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revelation
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you reveal
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yourself to
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us
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and you
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are not
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a God
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that we
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could just
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create
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out of a
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figment
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of our
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imagination
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Lord
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you are
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an awesome
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God
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beyond all
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our
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highest
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thoughts
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help us
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to have
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humility
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as we
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worship
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you
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Father
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Son
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and
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spirits
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and that
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we would
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honor you
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Lord
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with our
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lives
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in Jesus
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name
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amen
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all right
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thank you
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friends
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thanks
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brother
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thank you
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thank you
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thank you
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thank you