Sermon
Gospel Perspective on Politics Part 2
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And the topic this morning is how do the state and church relate?
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How do the state and the church relate?
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Maybe a better way of framing this is how does religion interact with government?
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Now I use that word religion because religion is much broader than just the state.
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I'm defining religion as all good attorneys do to define their terms.
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Religion is how do we answer ultimate questions about our life and then prescribing actions based on those answers.
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So how does religion, these ultimate questions, interact with government?
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Let's pray and then we'll dive into this question together.
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Father in heaven, we thank you for this time together.
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We thank you for your Lord, the Lord Jesus.
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Give us insight.
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Lord, this topic is often confusing and complex.
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Lord, give us clarity.
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Bind our hearts together.
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Love the church.
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Father, give us an anchor in these church lives.
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Father, for your namesake, would the church live as you call it?
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Father, for your namesake, would the church live as you call it?
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As a people for your own possession.
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We pray in Jesus' name.
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Amen.
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So how am I going to answer this question?
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Thankfully, Christianity was not started the year you and I were born.
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In fact, there have been Christians who have carried the same burdens we face today.
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Who have thought through these questions and made mistakes.
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And we can learn from them.
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There's no phrase, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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So, in light of that, I want to have this discussion in light of church history.
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Through the lens of church history.
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And one of the lessons you often find in church history is that you realize that old errors are so often recycled and repackaged in new forms.
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Right?
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There's nothing new on this side.
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So to face the challenge of a culture that might be unraveling like a cheap sweater, we can go further back in time to men and women who have thought through these things, carry the same burdens, and have wisdom for us.
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And so for the second half of the class, I'm going to reference Augustine.
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Augustine.
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One of those early church fathers in the 5th century from North Africa.
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Now, you might not agree with everything Augustine has to say.
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But he does have a wonderful way of framing the issue for us in the 21st century.
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So to give us a road map of where we're headed on this journey, we're going to talk about the context of the early church.
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Then Constantine.
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Third, the crisis.
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And fourth, the Magnus Otis.
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And what's Augustine's Magnus Opus?
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The City of God.
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That book, The City of God.
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It took him 13 years to write that.
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The City of God.
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So let's start with the context of the early church.
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So I want to picture yourself in 5th century Rome.
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You're going to take a time machine.
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We're going to travel to about 410 A.D.
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If you were living then, you may have heard stories of the horrible, twisted, violent persecution that Christians faced.
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Because of their allegiance to Christ, Christians were slandered, mocked, misrepresented, nailed crosses, lit on fire, and made and torn apart by animals.
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Christians often were scapegoated in Rome.
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To describe this time, a 2nd century pastor, Petulian, once said,
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If the Tiber River rises too high or the Nile too low, the cry is,
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The Christians to the lion!
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These Christians were scapegoated.
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And to face a death, they were witnesses of the risen Christ.
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This was reality.
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And often this persecution would be top down from the emperors.
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Top down from the emperors.
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So unlike today, there was no voting for the emperors on election day.
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No consent of the governor.
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In this context, Paul would tell Christians in Romans chapter 13, verse 1, to give the government their due.
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He writes,
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Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.
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For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
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And so scripture says, earthly governments are ordained by God to administer justice.
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And believers are to be subject to their authority.
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Even unjust governments.
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Even unjust governments.
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Peter writes, honor the emperor.
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Yeah, even the corrupt one, like Nero.
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Honor the emperor.
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Christians are to honor the very governments that later would arrest the next week then.
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Why would anyone do this?
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1 Peter 2, verse 21 tells us,
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For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.
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So submit to the civil authorities, pay your taxes, honor the emperor, and when reviled, do not revile in return.
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That's the rule.
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Now, of course, there are limits on disobedience.
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Some of us want to immediately go to the exception.
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We collaborate, but we never compromise.
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We collaborate, but we never compromise.
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There are places where we cannot go.
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Like our modern day, Romans consider themselves inclusive and tolerant.
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And tolerant.
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So inclusive and tolerant.
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But there's a catch.
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Rome was tolerant as long as you accept the status quo.
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And the status quo involved taking part in religious worship of the emperor.
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You know, bow down.
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Offer some incense.
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It's not a big deal.
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It's a big deal, Christian.
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Be a good Roman citizen and bow down to the emperor.
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And this is where Christians ran into trouble.
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And does anyone know what Christians were called for their refusal to worship the Roman pantheon?
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Atheists.
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Atheists.
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Why were they called atheists?
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They didn't seem to believe in the gods.
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Right.
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They worshiped this god who was invisible.
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They didn't worship the visible pantheon of gods.
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They were atheists.
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And many consider Christians to be dangerous to the unity of the empire.
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Threats to society.
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I mean, you can almost picture, like, imagine yourself a Roman official.
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Right.
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These Christians were gathering together.
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The upper class slaves and women were calling each other brother and sister.
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Right.
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We even heard that they drank the blood and ate the flesh of this king Jesus whom they worshiped.
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What in the world is going on?
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Right.
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These Christians were odd.
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They're weird.
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They're suspicious.
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Now, we live in the 21st century, but we have first century problems.
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Right.
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But we also have an opportunity to live out first century Christianity.
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When Christianity becomes increasingly weird and suspicious in our culture.
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But as you listen to these stories, in the 5th century Rome, of the context of the early church,
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maybe you hear how everything changed under Constantine.
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There was the Constantinian moments where things suddenly turned upside down.
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In 312 AD, Christians found a champion in Emperor Constantine.
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In some ways, this is a very paradoxical age.
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So we're going to break this down by looking at the beautiful and the good,
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and then we're going to get into the ugly.
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So let's start with the beautiful and the good of Constantine.
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Now, picture yourself.
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Imagine witnessing family and friends martyred.
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And then very suddenly, Christians are supported.
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To illustrate how sudden this was,
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Roman officials kissed the broken hands of the Christians whom they had tortured.
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And understand, Constantine didn't just proclaim freedom of religion for Christians,
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but initially it was for everyone.
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No longer fearing for your life.
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That's good.
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Constantine restored property and legal rights to Christians.
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He subsidized the building of new church buildings.
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He even organized church councils.
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A force in the passing of the Nicene Creed,
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which brought unity to Christians,
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declaring that Jesus is Lord over and against the heresy of Arianism.
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For Constantine, it brought unity to the Roman Empire.
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For Constantine,
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and most historians recognize this,
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it represents a turning point in the Western world.
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Previously marginalized Christianity began to be a driving cultural force in the Roman Empire.
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And even Emperor Constantine at this point claims to be a Christian.
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So imagine yourself in that context.
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What do you do when now the leader of the emperor claims to be a Christian,
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and Christianity is now a driving cultural force in the Roman Empire?
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So this is the advent of Christendom.
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What do you do?
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What would you do
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where the majority in society
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now call themselves Christians?
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Now, I think we need some intellectual humility in the 21st century.
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Philip Yancey, a Christian author,
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once recounted a conversation with a Muslim,
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who said,
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I find no guidance in the Koran
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on how a Muslim should live as a minority in the society,
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and no guidance in the New Testament
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on how Christians should live as a majority.
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Now, that might be overstated.
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Right?
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But he's touching on something there, isn't he?
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Right?
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If you approach the Bible with the question,
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what's the right political order,
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you're not going to find the answer.
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It's the wrong question.
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But it does answer this question very clearly.
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What is the church?
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The Bible has a lot to say about what is the church.
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So your understanding of ecclesiology
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is going to influence your thinking on political theology.
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And Nick touched on this last week.
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And initially, I had 30 minutes of just expositing
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what is the nature of the doctrine of the church this morning,
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but I took it out.
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But your ecclesiology is going to influence your political theology.
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So a lot of Presbyterians and Baptists
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have different political theologies
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because of based on how we understand the church.
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And we understand Christianity is not just about
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having your sins forgiven.
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Right?
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Christianity touches our political life.
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Remember we said last week,
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this is important, but not ultimate.
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The Greek word polis,
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from which we get the word political,
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simply means city.
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How is the city working?
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Right?
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And we're serving on the mount people.
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Poor in spirit.
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Mourning and thirsting.
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After righteousness.
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Christians care about what God cares about.
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Human flourishing.
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Protecting the innocent from being falsely convicted.
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Protecting the vulnerable.
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Caring for the poor.
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Christians now bring in their values
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to advocate for what is right and good in Rome.
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And this begins to influence the Roman Empire
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in good ways.
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Right?
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Women were second class citizens back then
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in the ancient world.
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And because of Christianity's influence,
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the lowest in society started to gain
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some more legal protections.
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Women now could control property.
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Women now were protected from sexual assault.
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Mothers were given legal rights over their children,
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whereas former women and adopters had those rights.
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Not to mention, you know,
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the efforts to protect slaves,
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the poor.
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The practice of infanticide was outlawed,
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where unwarranted babies
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were left to wild animals
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and cast into sewers.
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Abortion was a common medical procedure.
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The early church had plenty to say about that.
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And so from the beginning,
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Christians believed these people had value.
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Made in the image of God.
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Money from the imperial treasury
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was used to help desperate parents
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who couldn't afford to keep children.
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And the church acted as sort of a distribution system
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that the Roman government would use.
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So this is something we can thank God for.
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Right?
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Today we have a lot of non-Christian politicians
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who say, you know,
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of course human rights.
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But friend, there was no
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of course human rights in ancient Rome.
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If you believe in human rights,
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then you can thank Christianity for that.
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Now for us,
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this doesn't necessarily mean
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being involved in institutional politics.
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through the government.
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But it might.
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It might.
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Maybe God will call some of you
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to run for mayor,
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or city council,
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or a senate.
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So how would this kind of public witness
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work today?
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Christians in the public square.
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Well, a senator or citizen
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can argue for a policy
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on the basis of your Christianity.
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But the government cannot adopt that position
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because of Christianity.
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So influence,
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but not to institutionalize Christianity.
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That would violate
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the anti-establishment clause
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of the First Amendment.
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That's the soil in which
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our representative democracy
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was founded.
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Christians can and should influence
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government for the common good.
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As someone once said,
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the early church wasn't a thermometer.
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They were a thermostat
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that transformed society.
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Does anyone know who said that?
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Does anyone know?
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Sounds really good to anyone?
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That was Martin King Jr.
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in a letter
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in Birmingham jail.
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The idea that Christians
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brought their values
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for the common good
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was the civil rights movement.
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So just laws are a good thing.
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But remember,
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laws cannot change the human heart.
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Laws cannot do the works of culture.
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Now, one of the reasons
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why we don't institutionalize Christianity,
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which John is going to get to next week.
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Does anyone know why
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we, in our accounting,
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we didn't want to institutionalize
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one specific denomination?
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They didn't want the religious strife
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from Europe to come here.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And that religious strife was here.
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It was here.
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The Baptists were the ones
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who were exiled in the Commonwealth
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of Massachusetts
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because they refused to practice
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the baptism.
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So the legacy of religious liberty,
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John's going to get to next week,
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but that, in part,
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was due to the fact
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that Baptists were on the wrong end
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of religious persecution.
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Now, some Christians believe
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if we just pass the right laws,
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if we just institutionalize Christianity,
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that will solve the moral decay
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of our times.
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But that's chasing after a mirage.
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Laws cannot do
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what only the gospel can do.
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So that's the good side.
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I mean, let's get to the ugly.
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So we're going back to Constantine.
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There was a darker side.
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Remember, Christians found a champion
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under Constantine.
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Constantine was called
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the capital-L liberator of the church.
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He was called a Christian emperor
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by men like Eusebius of Caesarea.
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The church began to have power and wealth,
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and so nominalism skyrocketed at that point.
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If you wanted a career in politics,
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you were expected to be a Christian
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under Constantine.
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But that wasn't the only problem.
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You may recall hearing
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in some Western civ class
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that he took in college
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the story where Constantine
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saw a sign in the sky,
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and when he and his entire army
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looked up,
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he saw a Cairo, or a cross,
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with the words,
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conquer by this sign.
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Conquer by this sign.
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You find meteorologists
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trying to figure out,
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how did this all work?
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How did they find that apparition
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in the sky?
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But Constantine put the sign
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of the cross
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on the shield of his soldiers,
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crusading and conquering
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under the banner of the cross.
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He hardly ever lost a battle,
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and he was a ruthless man.
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In John 18,
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Peter is rebuked for drawing the sword
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after Jesus' arrest.
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And what does Jesus tell Pilate
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when he's at his trial?
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My kingdom's not of this world.
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My kingdom is not of this world.
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If it were of this world,
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my servants would be fighting.
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So the Christ kingdom
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does not advance
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through course of power,
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but through the word.
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We don't fight fire with fire.
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Civil governments
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cannot cause conversions.
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You know, the sword,
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convert or die!
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That doesn't happen.
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That cannot happen.
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So now you see
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what's happening here
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under Constantine.
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Now there's confusion
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of categories.
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The church and the state
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are now molding together.
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And theologians at that time
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began linking Constantine's rule
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with the rule of God.
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Jerome, one of the church fathers,
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said,
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Rome was an earthly reflection
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of the kingdom of heaven.
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You know, someone once said,
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I think Nick Vizenti told me this,
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this is like Trump on stairways.
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Right?
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You hear this rhetoric today.
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Right?
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Ronald Reagan,
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in his farewell address,
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famous,
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he said,
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America is the shining city
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on a hill.
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Drawed upon Matthew 5,
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verse 14,
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in the top of the last week.
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You are the light of the world.
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A city on a hill,
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set on a hill,
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cannot be hidden.
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And the you there
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is not referring to America,
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it's referring to the church.
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But the temptation
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to confuse categories
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is bipartisan.
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Unfortunately,
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blasphemy is bipartisan
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on both sides of the aisle.
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In 2021,
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President Biden,
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speaking of the American military
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going to Afghanistan,
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quoted Isaiah chapter 6,
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verse 8.
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The Lord says,
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Whom shall I send?
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Who shall go for us?
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Biden then said,
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The American military
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has been answering
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for a long time.
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Here I am,
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Lord,
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send me.
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Here I am,
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send me.
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God's saving mission
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is not a military campaign
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to blow up buildings
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in Kabul.
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Let me ask this question,
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what kind of problems
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does this create
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for the gospel witness
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in places like Afghanistan?
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Where God's purposes
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are American military campaigns
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overseas.
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What kind of problems
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does this create
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for Christians
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for the gospel witness
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overseas?
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Well,
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if you look at Nazi Germany
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where the church
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caved to Hitler
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and did not stand up
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as a witness
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against the government,
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terrible,
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terrible confusion
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over what Christianity is
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and what it meant.
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And my sister-in-law
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who's Jewish
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and she really
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doesn't want to hear
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about Christianity
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because of her parents
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and her parents' experience
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in Europe.
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she quakes
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Nazism
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and Christianity.
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That's that.
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That's what he said.
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So,
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if I were
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into the Taliban,
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Christian
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and American
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would mean
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the same thing
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to me.
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And both hateful.
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Yeah,
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that's true.
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Afghan Christians
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could be
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pro-America
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because
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what else
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could they be?
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Yeah,
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it seems like
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you justify violence
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on the other side
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to tell them
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it's all power politics.
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There is no alternative.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Tom pointed this out
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to me that
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when Rome
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identified
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as a Christian empire,
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a great persecution
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arose
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amongst Persian Christians
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because the governments
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thought native
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Persian Christians
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must have been
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with Rome.
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Yeah.
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So now there is
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suspicion
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for Christians
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in Persia.
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And there would be
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suspicion,
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I mean,
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this kind of rhetoric
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would cause
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suspicions
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for Christians
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in Venezuela
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whose government
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doesn't align
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with American interests.
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So,
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we do a lot
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of damage
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to gospel witness
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overseas
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if we're
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aligning America
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with Christ
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and they're
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both the same.
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Now,
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in 2021,
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a lot of us
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heard the term
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Christian nationalism
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all over the news
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and you hear it today.
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Most people
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have no idea
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what it means
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but it sounds
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scary,
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right?
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It sounds
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aggressive,
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authoritarian,
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Christian nationalism.
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After January 6th,
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don't get me wrong,
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there was a lot
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ugly
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in America,
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but after January 6th,
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I think it became
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a dog whistle word
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in a smear campaign
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among some of the media.
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Why?
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Because it is a way
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of lumping together
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those in the crowd
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that broke
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into the capital
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with normal Christians
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who are engaged
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in politics.
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Guilt by association.
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I mention that
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because there's
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such a temptation
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to just slap a label
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on someone,
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right,
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rather than to listen
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to them
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and to ask questions.
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You think
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governments should
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promote traditional
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family structures?
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You're a Christian nationalist.
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You support police reform?
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That sounds
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really woke to me.
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So you don't really
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engage with someone,
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you just slap a label
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on them.
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And we should not
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do that as a church.
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Right?
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Let's listen to each other,
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ask questions,
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rather than really
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assume that someone
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is a Christian nationalist
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because of their
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political preferences,
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not necessarily
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a theological
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commandment.
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Any questions?
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And then we're going
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to get to the crisis
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and then Augustus.
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Any questions?
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How long was
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Constantine's reign?
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That's a good question.
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Anyone know?
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Okay.
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I was just wondering
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how quickly
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everything degenerated.
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Yeah.
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I noticed conversion
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was unexpected.
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Long enough
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to change things.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Someone can look
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to Google it
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and then look at that.
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Well, probably not
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31 years.
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31 years.
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31 years.
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Okay.
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That's fine.
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Thank you.
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So, we have the
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context here
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of the church.
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Constantine.
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Let's get to the crisis.
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Let's get to the crisis.
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Fast forward the years
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410 AD.
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We're back in the Roman Empire
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and the empire is
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teetering on the
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verge of collapse.
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So imagine 50 years
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from now,
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America is no longer
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a country.
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That would be shocking
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for a lot of us.
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But America is a toddler
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compared to Rome.
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Rome had been around
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for almost a thousand years.
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And the barbarians,
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the Visigoths,
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later the Germans
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would sack Rome
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and things began
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to unravel in Rome.
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This was a crisis
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of the culture.
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And maybe some of us
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feel some of that
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crisis today.
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You know,
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God's providence
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is a sign of
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those very Germans
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would later become
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Christians.
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So, and a thousand
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years later,
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there was a man
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who came forth
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from the Germans.
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Martin Luther.
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So, Fred,
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maybe those radical,
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crazy, pagan,
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non-Christian neighbors
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of ours,
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maybe there's a
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Martin Luther
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among them.
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I don't know.
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Alright, but now
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during this crisis
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in God's providence,
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many refugees
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fled to North Africa
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who would meet
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and talk with
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one North African
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bishop,
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Augustine.
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And Augustine's
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magnus opus,
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the city of God,
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it took him 13 years
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to write this.
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And he started
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writing it
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pretty soon after
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Rome collapsed.
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Augustine's
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and it's been
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a foundational text
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for Western
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political thought.
-
This is why
-
I'm referencing
-
Augustine.
-
And you could draw
-
a direct line
-
of Augustine
-
thought,
-
especially of
-
human depravity
-
and original sin,
-
to the founding
-
fathers of the
-
draft of the
-
Constitution.
-
What do I mean
-
by that?
-
So if you look
-
at Augustine,
-
Augustine influenced
-
Martin Luther.
-
Martin Luther
-
taught Calvin.
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Calvin taught
-
John Edwards.
-
John Edwards
-
taught John
-
Witherspoon.
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And John
-
Witherspoon
-
taught James
-
Madison.
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And Madison
-
wrote the
-
Federalist Papers,
-
which has a
-
very strong
-
Augustinian
-
bent to it.
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And Madison
-
would draft
-
the Constitution.
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So Madison
-
and the framers
-
had a very
-
realistic understanding
-
of man's
-
fallen nature
-
when creating
-
our system
-
of government.
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And John,
-
again,
-
is going to
-
talk about this
-
next week.
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Now,
-
Augustine doesn't
-
start out to be
-
a political
-
philosopher,
-
but as a
-
pastor.
-
He is doing
-
a couple of
-
things in the
-
city of God.
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First,
-
he's refuting
-
the contention
-
that Christianity
-
is responsible
-
for the collapse
-
of the Roman
-
Western Empire,
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the Western
-
Roman Empire.
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And second,
-
he's comforting
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the sheep.
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These are
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refugees that
-
are coming,
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and he wants
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to comfort them.
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And if you
-
want to start
-
reading this
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in the city
-
of God,
-
book 19,
-
start there.
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The most
-
bang for
-
your buck.
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Book 19,
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chapter 17,
-
that's where
-
you should
-
start.
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So,
-
there are
-
six thoughts
-
from the
-
city of
-
God applied
-
for today.
-
And here's
-
what I think
-
Augustine would
-
want to tell
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our church
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in a cultural
-
crisis.
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One,
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do not
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panic.
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Do
-
not
-
panic.
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The loss
-
of any
-
Christian
-
influence
-
in America
-
does not
-
follow him
-
to question
-
God's
-
faithfulness.
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Because he
-
would say,
-
don't confuse
-
America
-
with the
-
city of
-
God.
-
The city
-
of God,
-
he writes,
-
is invincible,
-
eternal,
-
and everlasting.
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And the
-
gates of hell
-
will not prevail
-
against it.
-
Augustine gets
-
the title
-
from Psalm
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97,
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Glorious
-
things of
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you are
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spoken,
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O city
-
of God.
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Speaking of
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Zion,
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the dwelling
-
place of
-
God.
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And he
-
would say,
-
look,
-
America is
-
just like
-
Babylon,
-
Assyria,
-
and Rome.
-
It's the
-
city of
-
man.
-
Right?
-
These
-
rise and
-
fall,
-
the earthly
-
cities
-
passing
-
away.
-
We are
-
pilgrims
-
and exiles
-
who have
-
a heavenly
-
citizenship.
-
That's where
-
our allegiance
-
lies.
-
And we
-
get afraid
-
because we
-
often confuse
-
the two.
-
In the
-
city of
-
God,
-
Augustine
-
has a
-
conversation
-
partner
-
named
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Scipio
-
Africanus.
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Scipio
-
is asked
-
the question,
-
what is
-
a society?
-
What makes
-
up a
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culture?
-
Scipio
-
responds
-
with,
-
well,
-
it's an
-
assembly
-
united
-
in
-
fellowship
-
by
-
common
-
agreement
-
as to
-
what is
-
right
-
in a
-
community
-
of
-
interest.
-
So,
-
in other
-
words,
-
a society
-
that has
-
the same
-
values.
-
Or we
-
could say
-
it's a
-
nation
-
that has
-
biblical
-
values.
-
The same
-
sense of
-
what is
-
right.
-
But
-
Augustine
-
would say,
-
Scipio,
-
that's
-
great.
-
But that's
-
the city
-
of God.
-
A society
-
of people
-
united
-
with the
-
conviction
-
of what
-
is right,
-
that is
-
the city
-
of God.
-
It's not
-
the city
-
of man.
-
So,
-
number one,
-
do not
-
panic.
-
Two,
-
low
-
expectations.
-
Low
-
expectations.
-
America
-
will
-
disappoint
-
you.
-
When
-
Augustine
-
was
-
preaching
-
to
-
refugees,
-
you
-
would
-
probably
-
say
-
something
-
like this.
-
Look,
-
you've
-
been
-
through
-
tragedy.
-
Many
-
of you
-
have been
-
mistreated,
-
slandered,
-
harmed by
-
others.
-
Rome
-
and the
-
culture
-
has
-
collapsed.
-
But
-
remember
-
this,
-
Rome
-
was
-
always
-
disappointed
-
and
-
disappointed.
-
So,
-
I say
-
the same
-
to you.
-
In
-
the same
-
way,
-
this election
-
season,
-
America
-
will
-
disappoint
-
you.
-
Have
-
low
-
expectations.
-
Modesty
-
of
-
ambition.
-
Three,
-
there's a
-
spiritual
-
conflict
-
between
-
these
-
two
-
cities.
-
There's
-
a
-
spiritual
-
conflict
-
between
-
these
-
two
-
cities.
-
His
-
entire
-
argument
-
can be
-
summed
-
up in
-
this
-
sentence,
-
in the
-
city
-
of
-
God.
-
He
-
writes,
-
accordingly,
-
two
-
cities
-
have
-
been
-
formed
-
by
-
two
-
loves.
-
The
-
earthly
-
by the
-
love
-
of
-
self,
-
even
-
to
-
the
-
contempt
-
of
-
God.
-
The
-
heavenly
-
by the
-
love
-
of
-
God,
-
even
-
to
-
the
-
contempt
-
of
-
self.
-
The
-
former
-
in
-
the
-
word
-
glories
-
in
-
itself,
-
the
-
latter
-
in
-
the
-
Lord.
-
So,
-
what
-
he's
-
saying
-
is,
-
the
-
city
-
of
-
God
-
and
-
the
-
city
-
of
-
man
-
are
-
in
-
conflict.
-
I
-
mean,
-
this
-
is
-
the
-
message
-
we
-
saw
-
in
-
Revelation.
-
Remember
-
that?
-
Christians
-
attempting
-
to
-
worship
-
the
-
beast
-
of
-
the
-
political
-
power
-
in
-
Rome.
-
Now,
-
some
-
might
-
say
-
at
-
this
-
point,
-
okay,
-
I
-
agree
-
with
-
you,
-
Augustine,
-
so,
-
Christians
-
should be
-
like the
-
French
-
resistance.
-
We'll
-
go under
-
and we'll
-
start
-
fighting
-
the
-
Nazis.
-
We'll
-
just go
-
underground.
-
So,
-
you hear
-
some of
-
that today.
-
But,
-
Augustine
-
wouldn't
-
go that
-
far.
-
He
-
wouldn't
-
go that
-
far
-
because
-
the
-
fourth
-
principle,
-
and here's
-
the twist.
-
There's a
-
conflict
-
between
-
these
-
two
-
cities,
-
but
-
Christians
-
occupy
-
both
-
cities
-
at the
-
same
-
time.
-
Christians
-
occupy
-
both
-
cities
-
at the
-
same
-
time.
-
We
-
have
-
a
-
dual
-
citizenship.
-
So,
-
the
-
earthly
-
city
-
also
-
contains
-
members
-
of
-
the
-
city
-
of
-
God.
-
And
-
so,
-
that's
-
why
-
Gustine
-
would
-
say,
-
this
-
is
-
not
-
like
-
the
-
Nazis
-
fighting
-
versus
-
the
-
allies
-
in
-
World
-
War
-
II.
-
We
-
also
-
are
-
citizens
-
of
-
the
-
earthly
-
city.
-
So,
-
there is
-
both,
-
and here's
-
the wisdom
-
of Augustine
-
here.
-
He's
-
saying
-
there's
-
both
-
an
-
involvement,
-
but there's
-
also a
-
detachment
-
from the
-
earthly
-
city.
-
There's
-
tension in
-
that,
-
isn't
-
there?
-
I think
-
that's
-
what the
-
balance that
-
Nick was
-
really trying
-
to get
-
at last
-
week.
-
these
-
things
-
are
-
important,
-
but
-
they're
-
not
-
ultimate.
-
And
-
there's
-
a tension.
-
Be a
-
citizen
-
of
-
Babylon,
-
but
-
remain
-
in
-
exile.
-
Engage
-
in
-
politics,
-
but
-
don't
-
succumb
-
to
-
political
-
idolatry.
-
Obey
-
the
-
emperor,
-
but
-
above
-
all,
-
obey
-
God.
-
How
-
desperately
-
we need
-
the
-
Holy
-
Spirit
-
to do
-
this
-
while
-
in
-
our
-
public
-
life.
-
One
-
example,
-
I love
-
how one
-
person
-
illustrated
-
this
-
in the
-
second
-
century,
-
the
-
letter
-
of
-
Diocatis.
-
And
-
the
-
author
-
wrote
-
this,
-
Christians
-
are not
-
distinguished
-
from the
-
rest of
-
humanity
-
by country,
-
language,
-
or custom.
-
From
-
nowhere do
-
they live
-
in cities
-
of their
-
own,
-
nor do
-
they speak
-
some unusual
-
dialect,
-
nor do
-
they practice
-
an eccentric
-
way of
-
life.
-
They live
-
in their
-
own
-
countries,
-
but only
-
as
-
sojourners.
-
They
-
participate
-
in everything
-
as citizens
-
and endure
-
everything
-
as
-
foreigners.
-
Every
-
foreign
-
country
-
is their
-
fatherland,
-
and every
-
fatherland
-
is foreign.
-
They
-
marry,
-
as do
-
all others,
-
and they
-
have children,
-
but they
-
do not
-
destroy
-
their
-
offspring.
-
They
-
have a
-
common
-
table,
-
not a
-
common
-
bed.
-
They
-
are in
-
the
-
flesh,
-
but they
-
do not
-
live
-
according
-
to the
-
flesh.
-
They
-
pass
-
their
-
days
-
on
-
earth,
-
but
-
they
-
are
-
citizens
-
of
-
heaven.
-
They
-
are
-
cursed,
-
but they
-
blessed.
-
They
-
are
-
insulted,
-
yet
-
they offer
-
it.
-
I just
-
love how
-
he captures
-
how Christians
-
are in
-
both cities
-
at once.
-
We're in
-
the world,
-
but we're
-
not of
-
it.
-
Fifth
-
principle,
-
work for
-
the welfare
-
of the
-
earthly
-
city.
-
Augustine
-
says,
-
work for
-
the welfare
-
of the
-
earthly
-
city.
-
So this
-
is the
-
Daniel
-
principle
-
where God
-
told the
-
Jews in
-
Babylon,
-
Jeremiah
-
29,
-
verse 7,
-
seek the
-
welfare
-
of the
-
city
-
where I
-
have sent
-
you into
-
exile,
-
and pray
-
to the
-
Lord on
-
its behalf.
-
For in
-
its welfare
-
you will
-
find your
-
welfare.
-
I'm going
-
to repeat
-
that last
-
part.
-
For in
-
its
-
welfare
-
you will
-
find your
-
welfare.
-
And so
-
he understood
-
politics was
-
seeking the
-
good of the
-
city that
-
God placed
-
them in.
-
In the
-
city of
-
man's
-
welfare,
-
Christians
-
will find
-
our
-
welfare.
-
So although
-
there is a
-
conflict,
-
there is also
-
common interest
-
in life in
-
the earthly
-
city.
-
So in
-
earthly
-
political
-
life,
-
Christians
-
can be
-
united in
-
these earthly
-
goods with
-
non-Christians.
-
And Augustine
-
will use
-
illustrations like
-
seeing society
-
prosper,
-
food,
-
shelter,
-
these are
-
good things.
-
things.
-
A well-run
-
police
-
forest is a
-
good thing.
-
Stable
-
families are
-
good things,
-
laughing together
-
over a
-
meal.
-
He sums
-
it up in
-
this phrase,
-
earthly peace.
-
Earthly peace
-
is a good
-
thing.
-
In the
-
earthly city's
-
welfare, we
-
will find our
-
welfare.
-
So Augustine
-
saw that we
-
could be united
-
by common
-
interest with
-
non-Christians
-
and there will
-
be a spiritual
-
conflict, both
-
at the same
-
time.
-
Now of
-
course, and
-
Augustine
-
recognizes this,
-
our society
-
doesn't share
-
the same
-
values of
-
what is good
-
and evil,
-
right?
-
But we
-
can work for
-
areas of
-
common ground
-
that we both
-
can work
-
toward.
-
And we
-
love these
-
things in
-
different ways.
-
Christians
-
love is
-
always in the
-
context of a
-
greater love
-
for God.
-
So we
-
love earthly
-
peace not
-
for earthly
-
peace in
-
itself.
-
We love
-
these things
-
because
-
God is the
-
one who
-
gives them
-
to us.
-
They are
-
gifts from
-
God, right?
-
So we
-
can be
-
thankful for
-
the many
-
good gifts
-
that God
-
has given
-
to us as
-
Americans.
-
I'm one of
-
the types
-
that I get
-
choked up
-
singing the
-
National Anthem.
-
I don't know
-
why, I just
-
start getting
-
teary-eyed.
-
And it's
-
okay to
-
thank God
-
sincerely for
-
being an
-
American.
-
There's
-
nothing wrong
-
with that.
-
But ultimately
-
we thank God
-
for those things.
-
And our
-
allegiance is to
-
God.
-
And the
-
sixth principle,
-
and then we'll
-
open up for
-
questions and
-
comments,
-
the sixth
-
principle is
-
ground your
-
hope in
-
the heavenly
-
city.
-
Ground your
-
hope in the
-
heavenly city.
-
There's a
-
story, again,
-
of Scipio
-
Africanus.
-
He conquers
-
Rome's most
-
bitter enemy,
-
Carthage,
-
at the site
-
of the city
-
perishing amidst
-
the flames.
-
it is said
-
that Scipio
-
burst into
-
tears.
-
He had just
-
destroyed Rome's
-
greatest enemy.
-
And someone
-
asked Scipio,
-
why are you
-
weeping?
-
He replied,
-
this is a
-
glorious moment,
-
but I have a
-
dread foreboding
-
that someday
-
the same doom
-
will be
-
pronounced on
-
my own
-
country.
-
Scipio was
-
weeping because
-
one day what
-
happened to
-
Carthage will
-
happen to
-
Rome.
-
Augustine would
-
agree with
-
that.
-
What happened
-
to Carthage,
-
what happened
-
to Rome,
-
we pray that
-
this doesn't
-
happen, but
-
one day it
-
will happen to
-
America.
-
The earthly
-
city is
-
temporary.
-
Politics are
-
temporary when
-
you measure
-
them against
-
the city of
-
God.
-
That's where
-
our hope lies.
-
ground your
-
hope in the
-
heavenly city.
-
So those are
-
the six
-
principles.
-
Do not
-
panic.
-
Low
-
expectations.
-
Spiritual
-
conflict.
-
Christians
-
occupy both
-
at the same
-
time.
-
Work for
-
your welfare
-
in the
-
earthly city.
-
And above
-
all.