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  1. Well, we take up this morning the glorious topic of what has been called the doctrines of grace.

  2. ! That is how it is that God saves sinners.

  3. And these truths are to the saints of God of sweetest savor.

  4. They furnish a display of the glory of God arrayed in its most ravishing vestment and vesture.

  5. To view these unfolding is to cry out with the apostle,

  6. Oh, the depths of the riches!

  7. And while we might begin our view from any number of its gleaming facets,

  8. I think it fruitful first to frame these truths of God's gracious work of salvation

  9. in the wider view of His supreme sovereignty.

  10. That is, God's all-encompassing rule and governance over all and in all,

  11. the vast realm of His creation.

  12. All that was, is, and is to come is ruled by the scepter of His pleasure

  13. and follows infallibly the dictates of His will.

  14. And here the setting fits the gem it holds,

  15. His general sovereignty, His sovereignty and salvation.

  16. The frame, almost as much as the portrait it encloses,

  17. is a wonder to behold.

  18. So we shall proceed by unfolding this glorious truth of God's all-encompassing sovereignty

  19. as witnessed in the scriptures.

  20. And like travelers upon a scenic path,

  21. who on occasion cannot but pause

  22. on some outlook to take in the rapturous vista

  23. and burst forth in wonder and praise,

  24. we'll sprinkle our path

  25. with some reactions

  26. of fellow travelers

  27. who behold these truths like sparkling stars

  28. in the firmament.

  29. So, embarking,

  30. let us entrust ourselves

  31. to our sure guide.

  32. Let's pray.

  33. Come Holy Spirit

  34. and soften our hearts

  35. as we open Your Word.

  36. Settle our convictions

  37. and so strengthen our comfort

  38. and deepen our joy

  39. that Christ,

  40. the Alpha and Omega,

  41. might be exalted.

  42. Amen.

  43. Amen.

  44. So one,

  45. Scripture's witness

  46. and saints' wonder.

  47. To enter Scripture

  48. is to inhabit a world

  49. in which God reigns

  50. and His purposes prevail.

  51. Where all reflects

  52. the unfolding of His will.

  53. The unwavering conviction

  54. is woven through Scripture's fabric

  55. from beginning to end.

  56. For from Him

  57. are all things,

  58. writes the Apostle

  59. in Romans 11.

  60. That is to say,

  61. all things

  62. find their ultimate source

  63. in God.

  64. All things

  65. issue ultimately

  66. from His will

  67. and good pleasure.

  68. God, we are told,

  69. works all things

  70. after the counsel

  71. of His own will.

  72. Ephesians 1, 11.

  73. All things?

  74. I mean,

  75. as in every single thing?

  76. Yes.

  77. Consider things

  78. first in the realm

  79. of inanimate nature.

  80. Now, no Hebrew

  81. worshiper of Yahweh

  82. would ever say,

  83. hey, look,

  84. it happened to rain.

  85. for all knew

  86. that God

  87. sends the rain

  88. and that the snows

  89. fall by His command.

  90. As Elihu testifies,

  91. for the snow,

  92. he says,

  93. falls on the earth.

  94. Likewise,

  95. the downpour

  96. is His mighty downpour.

  97. Job 37, 6.

  98. By the breath of God,

  99. the ice is given

  100. and the broad waters

  101. are frozen fast.

  102. He, God,

  103. loads the thick clouds

  104. with moisture.

  105. The clouds scatter

  106. His lightning.

  107. They turn around

  108. and around

  109. by His guidance

  110. to accomplish

  111. all that He commands them

  112. on the face

  113. of the inhabitable world.

  114. Job 37, 10 through 12.

  115. The forces of nature

  116. in their observed regularities

  117. are not operating

  118. simply out of some law

  119. intrinsic to them.

  120. They move by the command

  121. of the Most High.

  122. The sun,

  123. the moon,

  124. the stars

  125. act in accordance with,

  126. as Scripture says,

  127. a fixed order

  128. that God has established

  129. by His own covenant.

  130. The Lord of hosts

  131. has established it.

  132. Jeremiah 31, 35,

  133. 33, 20,

  134. and on and on

  135. throughout the Scriptures.

  136. Thus it is

  137. in the realm

  138. of inanimate nature.

  139. So also

  140. in the realm

  141. of animate nature.

  142. Isaiah 46, 11 says,

  143. He, God,

  144. calls the bird of prey

  145. from the east.

  146. Even the two

  147. for a penny sparrows,

  148. Jesus reminds us,

  149. that not one

  150. will fall to the ground

  151. without your Father's will.

  152. Matthew 10, 29.

  153. And remember the story

  154. of Jonah.

  155. God appointed

  156. the great fish,

  157. 117,

  158. and appointed

  159. the worm

  160. to eat

  161. the shade-giving

  162. gourd

  163. which God had

  164. appointed

  165. to grow

  166. and spring up.

  167. Such appointment

  168. also orders

  169. the rise

  170. and fall

  171. of nations.

  172. All the intricacies

  173. of the flux

  174. of national territory,

  175. which imperial power

  176. prevails

  177. and which people

  178. is consumed.

  179. God, quote,

  180. determined

  181. their appointed times

  182. and their boundaries

  183. of their habitation.

  184. Acts 17, 26.

  185. And from the great surges

  186. of geopolitical realms

  187. to the most trivial,

  188. seemingly random events,

  189. nothing springs

  190. !

  191. Nothing springs

  192. from chance.

  193. Even the numbers

  194. we roll on a die,

  195. God's wisdom

  196. determines.

  197. Proverbs 16, 33.

  198. The lot

  199. is cast

  200. into the lap,

  201. but the decision

  202. is wholly

  203. from the Lord.

  204. It was not random

  205. that Achan,

  206. Saul,

  207. Jonah,

  208. Matthias

  209. drew the short straw.

  210. It reflected

  211. God's determination.

  212. And this reality

  213. of God's

  214. ordaining

  215. all things

  216. encompasses

  217. all human

  218. choices

  219. also.

  220. Proverbs 16, 9.

  221. The heart of a man

  222. plans his way,

  223. but the Lord

  224. directs his steps.

  225. Proverbs 20, 24.

  226. A man's steps

  227. are ordered

  228. by the Lord.

  229. I know,

  230. O Lord,

  231. says the prophet Jeremiah,

  232. that the way of a man

  233. is not in himself,

  234. that it is not in man

  235. who walks

  236. to direct his steps.

  237. Jeremiah 10, 23.

  238. Now,

  239. the heart

  240. in Scripture

  241. means the

  242. affectional,

  243. volitional

  244. center

  245. from which spring

  246. our attractions,

  247. our aversions,

  248. all of our choices.

  249. The heart

  250. determines

  251. what we desire

  252. and abhor,

  253. and hence

  254. is the seat

  255. of all action.

  256. And it is

  257. precisely here

  258. that God

  259. exercises

  260. sovereignty.

  261. Psalms 33,

  262. 14 through 15

  263. tells us,

  264. God looks down

  265. from his throne,

  266. quote,

  267. on all the

  268. inhabitants

  269. of the earth

  270. and fashions

  271. the hearts

  272. of them

  273. all.

  274. Why,

  275. even the one

  276. who you would

  277. think to have

  278. maximal autonomy,

  279. to make

  280. unconstrained

  281. choices,

  282. a king.

  283. Of such

  284. an emblem

  285. of independence

  286. and power,

  287. we are told

  288. the king's heart

  289. is as a stream

  290. of water

  291. in the hand

  292. of the Lord.

  293. He,

  294. the Lord,

  295. turns it

  296. whatever way

  297. he will.

  298. Proverbs 21, 1.

  299. Again,

  300. this is

  301. throughout

  302. scripture,

  303. Ezra 6, 22,

  304. the Lord

  305. turned the heart

  306. of the king

  307. of Assyria.

  308. Again and again,

  309. we could multiply

  310. examples.

  311. And of course,

  312. the king

  313. is simply

  314. a paradigm

  315. case

  316. of what is

  317. true

  318. of all.

  319. Many are the

  320. plans of a man's

  321. heart,

  322. but the counsel

  323. of the Lord,

  324. it will stand.

  325. Proverbs 19,

  326. 21.

  327. So utterly

  328. does God

  329. control the

  330. hearts of mankind

  331. that he can

  332. tell the Israelites

  333. that if they

  334. obediently appear

  335. before him

  336. in the sanctuary

  337. of Jerusalem,

  338. leaving their

  339. lands unprotected

  340. and vulnerable

  341. to looting

  342. and conquest,

  343. he would

  344. preserve them.

  345. And how

  346. would God

  347. accomplish this?

  348. By making

  349. it such

  350. that their

  351. enemies

  352. would not

  353. eye their

  354. land with

  355. envy.

  356. and seek

  357. to seize

  358. it in this

  359. golden opportunity.

  360. He would

  361. displace

  362. covetousness

  363. with contentment

  364. and malice

  365. with goodwill

  366. in their

  367. enemies'

  368. hearts.

  369. Exodus 34,

  370. 23 and 24.

  371. John Calvin

  372. writes in his

  373. commentary on

  374. this verse,

  375. this was a

  376. remarkable proof

  377. of God's

  378. providence.

  379. Another word

  380. for sovereignty

  381. basically.

  382. for how

  383. could it be

  384. that their

  385. enemies,

  386. who were

  387. ever watching

  388. for opportunities

  389. of plunder,

  390. should remain

  391. quiet when

  392. they knew that

  393. all the men

  394. were gone

  395. from home?

  396. The only

  397. answer is that

  398. God restrained

  399. their cupidity

  400. and by his

  401. secret power

  402. bridled their

  403. lusts so that

  404. they dared

  405. not move.

  406. Here,

  407. therefore,

  408. we see how

  409. the Lord holds

  410. the hearts of

  411. men in his

  412. hand and

  413. bends them

  414. according to

  415. his will.

  416. Stephen

  417. Charnock,

  418. the author of

  419. that great,

  420. The Existence

  421. and Attributes

  422. of God,

  423. echoes this

  424. conviction.

  425. He writes,

  426. God is present

  427. in every

  428. motion,

  429. yet distinct

  430. from every

  431. creature.

  432. He orders

  433. all,

  434. directs all,

  435. and none

  436. can move a

  437. hand or

  438. tongue without

  439. his permission.

  440. So,

  441. the uniform

  442. testimony of

  443. Scripture is

  444. that all

  445. things are

  446. ordered and

  447. governed by

  448. the sovereign

  449. will of God,

  450. from the

  451. movement of

  452. the spheres

  453. in their

  454. vaults above

  455. to the hidden

  456. impulses of

  457. the human

  458. heart within.

  459. It is

  460. truly an

  461. awesome

  462. truth.

  463. I believe,

  464. proclaimed Spurgeon,

  465. that every

  466. particle of

  467. dust that

  468. dances in

  469. the sunbeam

  470. does not

  471. move an

  472. atom more

  473. or less

  474. than God

  475. wishes.

  476. That every

  477. particle of

  478. spray that

  479. dashes against

  480. the steamboat

  481. has its

  482. orbit as

  483. well as

  484. the sun

  485. in the

  486. heavens.

  487. That the

  488. chaff from

  489. the hand of

  490. the winnower

  491. is steered

  492. as the

  493. stars in

  494. their courses.

  495. the

  496. creeping of

  497. an aphid

  498. over the

  499. rosebud

  500. is as

  501. much fixed

  502. as the

  503. march of

  504. the

  505. devastating

  506. pestilence.

  507. The fall

  508. of seer

  509. leaves from

  510. a poplar

  511. is as

  512. fully

  513. ordained

  514. as the

  515. tumbling

  516. of an

  517. avalanche.

  518. Jonathan

  519. Edwards

  520. agrees

  521. and asserts

  522. the same

  523. degree of

  524. minute

  525. granularity

  526. to God's

  527. sovereign

  528. decrees.

  529. He writes,

  530. not one

  531. mote of

  532. dust

  533. errs

  534. from the

  535. path that

  536. God has

  537. appointed

  538. it.

  539. Whoa,

  540. whoa,

  541. okay,

  542. but what

  543. if that

  544. mote of

  545. dust

  546. goes in

  547. your eye?

  548. And

  549. Spurgeon

  550. mentions,

  551. as you

  552. know,

  553. that part

  554. of God's

  555. sovereign

  556. disposals

  557. involves

  558. pestilence

  559. and avalanche.

  560. Are you

  561. saying that

  562. God decrees

  563. even the

  564. bad things?

  565. The Chicago

  566. fire,

  567. the Lisbon

  568. earthquake,

  569. the collapse

  570. of the

  571. Twin Towers?

  572. Unflinchingly,

  573. Alex,

  574. you have plenty

  575. of room

  576. anywhere you

  577. want.

  578. Unflinchingly,

  579. the scriptures

  580. do not

  581. taper

  582. God's

  583. sovereign

  584. will,

  585. even a

  586. whisker's

  587. breadth,

  588. when it

  589. concerns

  590. such

  591. calamities.

  592. Does evil

  593. befall a

  594. city unless

  595. the Lord

  596. has done

  597. it?

  598. declares

  599. Amos the

  600. prophet,

  601. 3, 6.

  602. I am

  603. the Lord

  604. and there

  605. is no

  606. other.

  607. I form

  608. light,

  609. I create

  610. darkness,

  611. I make

  612. welfare,

  613. and I

  614. create

  615. woe.

  616. I am

  617. the Lord

  618. who does

  619. all these

  620. things.

  621. Isaiah

  622. 45, 7.

  623. Wait a

  624. minute,

  625. you protest.

  626. There's a

  627. lot of

  628. carnage

  629. that comes

  630. from evil.

  631. I mean,

  632. think of

  633. Gaza.

  634. Babies

  635. and small

  636. children

  637. were won

  638. with hunger.

  639. Yes,

  640. the scriptures

  641. are no

  642. stranger to

  643. that reality.

  644. Jeremiah

  645. writes with

  646. horror and

  647. sorrow.

  648. My eyes

  649. are spent

  650. with weeping.

  651. My soul

  652. is in

  653. tumult.

  654. My heart

  655. is poured

  656. out in

  657. grief because

  658. infants and

  659. babies faint

  660. in the

  661. streets of

  662. the city.

  663. Lamentations

  664. 2, 11.

  665. Yet he

  666. knows even

  667. here God

  668. is supremely

  669. sovereign.

  670. He

  671. continues,

  672. who has

  673. commanded

  674. and it

  675. came to

  676. pass unless

  677. the Lord

  678. has ordained

  679. it.

  680. Is it

  681. not from

  682. the mouth

  683. of the

  684. Most High

  685. that good

  686. and evil

  687. come?

  688. Lamentations

  689. 3, 37

  690. and 38.

  691. But let's

  692. go straight

  693. to the

  694. limit

  695. case.

  696. What

  697. would you

  698. say has

  699. been the

  700. most utterly

  701. horrendous

  702. evil ever

  703. perpetrated

  704. on this

  705. earth?

  706. The

  707. Holocaust?

  708. Ethnic

  709. cleansing?

  710. The wholesale

  711. commercial

  712. slaughter of

  713. babies in

  714. the womb?

  715. God

  716. sends his

  717. son to

  718. seek and

  719. save us

  720. and we

  721. hate him

  722. and kill

  723. him.

  724. Away with

  725. him.

  726. Crucify him.

  727. our evil

  728. does not

  729. extend

  730. beyond that.

  731. But did

  732. God's

  733. sovereignty

  734. determine it

  735. to be so?

  736. Yes.

  737. And Peter,

  738. as Peter

  739. told the

  740. Jerusalem

  741. crowd,

  742. this man,

  743. Jesus,

  744. delivered up

  745. by the

  746. predetermined

  747. plan and

  748. foreknowledge

  749. of God,

  750. you nailed

  751. to the

  752. cross.

  753. Acts 2, 23.

  754. Not even

  755. evil is

  756. exempt from

  757. the grip of

  758. God's

  759. sovereign sway.

  760. His

  761. governance is

  762. all

  763. comprehensive.

  764. For

  765. from him

  766. are all

  767. things.

  768. Romans 11.

  769. He works

  770. all things

  771. after the

  772. counsel of

  773. his own

  774. will.

  775. None of

  776. the trials

  777. and sufferings

  778. that befall

  779. fall outside

  780. God's

  781. reign.

  782. All

  783. events

  784. are under

  785. the control

  786. of providence

  787. or sovereignty,

  788. writes Spurgeon.

  789. Consequently,

  790. all of the

  791. trials

  792. of our

  793. outward life

  794. are traceable

  795. at once

  796. to the

  797. great

  798. first cause.

  799. out of

  800. the golden

  801. gate of

  802. God's

  803. ordinance,

  804. the armies

  805. of trial

  806. march forth

  807. in array,

  808. clad in

  809. their iron

  810. armor and

  811. armed with

  812. weapons of

  813. war.

  814. Or as

  815. Thomas

  816. Watson

  817. tersely

  818. puts it,

  819. whoever

  820. brings

  821. an affliction,

  822. it is

  823. God

  824. who

  825. sends

  826. it.

  827. So

  828. there's

  829. scripture's

  830. witness

  831. and

  832. saints

  833. wonder.

  834. Persisting

  835. puzzles

  836. properly

  837. pondered.

  838. Now,

  839. in the

  840. presence of

  841. this

  842. truth of

  843. God's

  844. all

  845. encompassing

  846. sovereignty,

  847. scripturally

  848. revealed,

  849. worshipping

  850. minds have

  851. wondered,

  852. how could

  853. these

  854. things be

  855. so?

  856. For

  857. by very

  858. natural,

  859. for some

  860. very natural

  861. puzzles

  862. appear for

  863. the thoughtful

  864. who seek to

  865. bring together

  866. in harmony

  867. the truth

  868. of God's

  869. sovereignty

  870. with other

  871. verities to

  872. which scripture

  873. bears witness.

  874. It's good to

  875. have an

  876. integration

  877. instinct.

  878. They are

  879. perhaps

  880. percolating

  881. in your

  882. minds

  883. already.

  884. two

  885. perhaps

  886. are most

  887. prominent

  888. and pressing

  889. and deserving

  890. of passing

  891. at least

  892. comment.

  893. First,

  894. if God

  895. is sovereign

  896. over all,

  897. how is

  898. he not

  899. implicated

  900. in evil?

  901. And,

  902. second,

  903. if God

  904. is sovereign

  905. over us,

  906. how have

  907. we the

  908. freedom

  909. for moral

  910. agency?

  911. Now,

  912. there is a

  913. right way

  914. to raise

  915. these questions

  916. and a

  917. wrong way.

  918. The right

  919. way is

  920. that of

  921. Mary at

  922. the angel's

  923. revelation

  924. that she

  925. would bear

  926. a son,

  927. God's

  928. Messiah.

  929. How can

  930. these things

  931. be?

  932. It was

  933. asked out

  934. of a heart

  935. of faith

  936. and submission.

  937. There was

  938. no rejecting

  939. disbelief.

  940. not so

  941. with

  942. Zachariah.

  943. His words

  944. were exactly

  945. the same

  946. as Mary's,

  947. but not

  948. his heart,

  949. for his

  950. was an

  951. unbelieving

  952. heart for

  953. which he

  954. was rebuked.

  955. So,

  956. let us

  957. proceed in

  958. our puzzles

  959. with the

  960. submissive

  961. humble

  962. heart of

  963. Mary.

  964. So,

  965. first,

  966. if all

  967. comes about

  968. at God's

  969. decree,

  970. how is

  971. he not

  972. implicated

  973. in evil?

  974. How are

  975. we to

  976. think of

  977. God's

  978. ordaining

  979. evil?

  980. Surely

  981. this is

  982. out of

  983. character

  984. with a

  985. good and

  986. holy God

  987. who is

  988. light and

  989. in whom

  990. there is

  991. no darkness,

  992. 1 John

  993. 1.5.

  994. The

  995. scriptures

  996. have not

  997. one whisker

  998. of ambiguity

  999. as to

  1000. God's

  1001. utter

  1002. unblemished

  1003. goodness.

  1004. He is

  1005. never

  1006. the

  1007. accomplice

  1008. to evil.

  1009. As

  1010. Moses sang

  1011. to the

  1012. assembled

  1013. Israel

  1014. in

  1015. Deuteronomy

  1016. 32,

  1017. 3,

  1018. and 4,

  1019. ascribe

  1020. greatness

  1021. to our

  1022. God the

  1023. Rock.

  1024. His

  1025. work is

  1026. perfect

  1027. and all

  1028. his ways

  1029. are just.

  1030. A

  1031. God of

  1032. faithfulness

  1033. without

  1034. iniquity,

  1035. just

  1036. and

  1037. upright

  1038. is he.

  1039. Or

  1040. the

  1041. prophet

  1042. Habakkuk

  1043. in

  1044. 1.13.

  1045. You,

  1046. God,

  1047. are of

  1048. purer

  1049. eyes

  1050. than

  1051. to

  1052. see

  1053. evil

  1054. and

  1055. cannot

  1056. look

  1057. upon

  1058. wrong.

  1059. In the

  1060. sense of

  1061. look with

  1062. complacency,

  1063. that's

  1064. okay,

  1065. no problem.

  1066. The

  1067. sixth-wing

  1068. cherubim

  1069. who,

  1070. covering

  1071. their

  1072. eyes in

  1073. God's

  1074. presence,

  1075. call to

  1076. each

  1077. other

  1078. perpetually,

  1079. holy,

  1080. holy,

  1081. holy,

  1082. Isaiah

  1083. 6.

  1084. The

  1085. assembled

  1086. host of

  1087. heavens

  1088. swell

  1089. with the

  1090. chorus,

  1091. Revelation

  1092. 15.3,

  1093. great and

  1094. amazing are

  1095. your deeds,

  1096. O Lord

  1097. God

  1098. Almighty,

  1099. just and

  1100. true are

  1101. all of

  1102. your ways.

  1103. So,

  1104. in light

  1105. of this

  1106. brilliant

  1107. splendor

  1108. of unadulterated

  1109. goodness and

  1110. unsullied

  1111. uprightness,

  1112. we naturally

  1113. find ourselves

  1114. arrested

  1115. to read,

  1116. is it

  1117. not from

  1118. the mouth

  1119. of the

  1120. Most High

  1121. that good

  1122. and evil

  1123. come?

  1124. And I

  1125. form light

  1126. and I

  1127. create

  1128. darkness,

  1129. I make

  1130. well-being

  1131. and I

  1132. create

  1133. calamity,

  1134. I am

  1135. the Lord

  1136. who does

  1137. all these

  1138. things,

  1139. Isaiah

  1140. 45.7.

  1141. How are

  1142. we to

  1143. understand

  1144. these

  1145. statements?

  1146. I don't

  1147. know,

  1148. I'll see

  1149. it at

  1150. no price.

  1151. Well,

  1152. the beginning

  1153. of wisdom

  1154. here,

  1155. I believe,

  1156. is to

  1157. recognize

  1158. a vital

  1159. distinction.

  1160. It's

  1161. indicated in

  1162. the remarkable

  1163. utterance

  1164. of Joseph

  1165. recorded

  1166. in Genesis

  1167. 50.20.

  1168. Referring

  1169. to his

  1170. brothers

  1171. selling him

  1172. into slavery

  1173. and his

  1174. ending up

  1175. in Egypt,

  1176. he states,

  1177. you intended

  1178. it for

  1179. evil,

  1180. but God

  1181. intended

  1182. it for

  1183. good.

  1184. So,

  1185. notice how

  1186. in Joseph's

  1187. mind,

  1188. the action

  1189. was brought

  1190. about both

  1191. by his

  1192. brothers

  1193. and by

  1194. God.

  1195. But,

  1196. and this

  1197. is vital,

  1198. the differentiated

  1199. actors had

  1200. different

  1201. motives and

  1202. purposes in

  1203. and for

  1204. the action.

  1205. The brothers

  1206. intended it

  1207. for evil,

  1208. God intended

  1209. it for

  1210. good.

  1211. Now,

  1212. this duality

  1213. is instructive

  1214. in guiding

  1215. our thinking.

  1216. In each

  1217. action,

  1218. we must

  1219. see a

  1220. dual

  1221. reference.

  1222. There is

  1223. an intention

  1224. with respect

  1225. to the

  1226. creature,

  1227. the created

  1228. ones,

  1229. who is

  1230. acting,

  1231. whoever the

  1232. created one

  1233. is acting,

  1234. Satan,

  1235. villains,

  1236. sinners,

  1237. often

  1238. perfidious,

  1239. which may

  1240. or may

  1241. not prevail.

  1242. But,

  1243. there is

  1244. also an

  1245. intention

  1246. of the

  1247. creator,

  1248. whose

  1249. intentions

  1250. and purposes

  1251. will always

  1252. obtain.

  1253. His

  1254. intentions

  1255. are always

  1256. and necessarily

  1257. good and

  1258. holy and

  1259. glorious,

  1260. reflecting

  1261. his character.

  1262. As

  1263. Jonathan Edwards

  1264. writes,

  1265. it's a

  1266. little

  1267. archaic

  1268. grammar,

  1269. but you'll

  1270. get the

  1271. point.

  1272. Men

  1273. will,

  1274. sorry,

  1275. men do

  1276. will

  1277. sin

  1278. as

  1279. sin.

  1280. And so

  1281. are the

  1282. authors and

  1283. actors of

  1284. it.

  1285. They love

  1286. it as

  1287. sin

  1288. and for

  1289. the evil

  1290. ends and

  1291. purposes.

  1292. God

  1293. don't

  1294. will

  1295. sin

  1296. as

  1297. sin

  1298. or

  1299. for

  1300. the

  1301. sake

  1302. of

  1303. anything

  1304. evil.

  1305. Though

  1306. it be

  1307. his

  1308. pleasure

  1309. so

  1310. to

  1311. order

  1312. things

  1313. that

  1314. he

  1315. permitting

  1316. sin

  1317. will

  1318. come

  1319. to

  1320. pass,

  1321. he

  1322. doeth

  1323. it

  1324. for

  1325. the

  1326. sake

  1327. of

  1328. the

  1329. great

  1330. good

  1331. that

  1332. by

  1333. his

  1334. disposal

  1335. shall

  1336. be

  1337. the

  1338. consequence.

  1339. Now

  1340. that's

  1341. Edwards,

  1342. it's a

  1343. little

  1344. bit

  1345. dense.

  1346. Maybe

  1347. I'll

  1348. just

  1349. read

  1350. it

  1351. again

  1352. because

  1353. this

  1354. is

  1355. really

  1356. really

  1357. helpful

  1358. distinction

  1359. to have.

  1360. Men

  1361. do

  1362. will

  1363. sin

  1364. as

  1365. sin

  1366. and

  1367. so

  1368. are

  1369. the

  1370. authors

  1371. and

  1372. actors

  1373. of

  1374. it.

  1375. They

  1376. love

  1377. it

  1378. as

  1379. sin

  1380. and

  1381. for

  1382. evil

  1383. ends

  1384. and

  1385. purposes.

  1386. But

  1387. God

  1388. doesn't

  1389. don't

  1390. will

  1391. sin

  1392. as

  1393. sin

  1394. or

  1395. for

  1396. the

  1397. sake

  1398. of

  1399. anything

  1400. evil.

  1401. Though

  1402. it

  1403. be

  1404. his

  1405. pleasure

  1406. so

  1407. to

  1408. order

  1409. things

  1410. that

  1411. he

  1412. permitting

  1413. sin

  1414. will

  1415. come

  1416. to

  1417. pass

  1418. for

  1419. the

  1420. sake

  1421. of

  1422. the

  1423. great

  1424. good

  1425. that

  1426. by

  1427. his

  1428. disposal

  1429. shall

  1430. be

  1431. the

  1432. consequence.

  1433. Get that?

  1434. Very

  1435. helpful.

  1436. Very

  1437. helpful.

  1438. It's

  1439. from his

  1440. Freedom of

  1441. the Will,

  1442. page 408

  1443. and 9.

  1444. Long

  1445. book,

  1446. but worth

  1447. it.

  1448. Now

  1449. what can

  1450. make some

  1451. of the

  1452. language

  1453. about

  1454. this

  1455. jarring

  1456. is that

  1457. the

  1458. outcomes

  1459. of

  1460. these

  1461. dual

  1462. intended

  1463. acts,

  1464. Joseph

  1465. being

  1466. sold

  1467. as

  1468. a

  1469. slave

  1470. and

  1471. sent

  1472. to

  1473. Egypt,

  1474. are

  1475. described

  1476. from

  1477. the

  1478. vantage

  1479. point

  1480. of

  1481. our

  1482. experience

  1483. of

  1484. them.

  1485. We

  1486. experience

  1487. them

  1488. as

  1489. evil

  1490. and

  1491. they

  1492. are

  1493. rightly

  1494. so

  1495. described.

  1496. Joseph

  1497. being

  1498. sold

  1499. by his

  1500. brothers

  1501. was

  1502. evil.

  1503. They

  1504. intended

  1505. it

  1506. for

  1507. evil

  1508. and

  1509. Joseph

  1510. experienced

  1511. it

  1512. as

  1513. evil.

  1514. So

  1515. it

  1516. makes

  1517. sense

  1518. that

  1519. we

  1520. would

  1521. call

  1522. it

  1523. evil.

  1524. As

  1525. indeed

  1526. it

  1527. is.

  1528. What

  1529. else

  1530. would

  1531. we

  1532. call

  1533. it?

  1534. And

  1535. what

  1536. other

  1537. vantage

  1538. point

  1539. would

  1540. we

  1541. have

  1542. to

  1543. describe

  1544. it

  1545. than

  1546. our

  1547. own?

  1548. And

  1549. we

  1550. see

  1551. and

  1552. experience

  1553. it

  1554. as

  1555. affliction,

  1556. calamity,

  1557. and

  1558. evil.

  1559. But

  1560. God

  1561. is

  1562. in

  1563. it

  1564. and

  1565. so

  1566. we

  1567. may

  1568. and

  1569. must

  1570. say

  1571. does

  1572. fire

  1573. consume

  1574. a

  1575. city

  1576. and

  1577. do

  1578. not

  1579. I

  1580. God

  1581. do

  1582. it?

  1583. God

  1584. is

  1585. in it

  1586. and

  1587. ordains

  1588. it

  1589. but

  1590. in

  1591. his

  1592. case

  1593. for

  1594. good.

  1595. See

  1596. the

  1597. coming

  1598. together

  1599. of

  1600. the

  1601. dual

  1602. actors

  1603. think

  1604. of it

  1605. this

  1606. way

  1607. I

  1608. I'm

  1609. trying

  1610. to

  1611. remember

  1612. which

  1613. Puritan

  1614. he

  1615. talks

  1616. about

  1617. God

  1618. uses

  1619. Satan

  1620. as

  1621. his

  1622. drudge

  1623. imagine

  1624. Satan

  1625. there

  1626. it

  1627. says

  1628. I

  1629. hate

  1630. God's

  1631. elect

  1632. I

  1633. am

  1634. going

  1635. to

  1636. destroy

  1637. them

  1638. so

  1639. he

  1640. takes

  1641. the

  1642. flail

  1643. and

  1644. he

  1645. goes

  1646. after

  1647. God's

  1648. professed

  1649. people

  1650. with

  1651. a

  1652. flail

  1653. and

  1654. he's

  1655. just

  1656. flailing

  1657. away

  1658. and

  1659. aiming

  1660. to

  1661. destroy

  1662. them

  1663. and

  1664. we

  1665. feel

  1666. the

  1667. harsh

  1668. we're

  1669. under

  1670. the

  1671. flail

  1672. Satan

  1673. is

  1674. flail

  1675. but

  1676. in

  1677. doing

  1678. so

  1679. he

  1680. just

  1681. manages

  1682. to

  1683. achieve

  1684. God's

  1685. purpose

  1686. which

  1687. is

  1688. separating

  1689. the

  1690. grain

  1691. from

  1692. the

  1693. chaff

  1694. and

  1695. purifying

  1696. the

  1697. wheat

  1698. so

  1699. Satan

  1700. the

  1701. drudge

  1702. is

  1703. just

  1704. going

  1705. away

  1706. just

  1707. hammering

  1708. trying

  1709. to

  1710. destroy

  1711. and

  1712. that's

  1713. his

  1714. evil

  1715. intent

  1716. and

  1717. it's

  1718. evil

  1719. and

  1720. we

  1721. experience

  1722. it

  1723. as

  1724. evil

  1725. oh

  1726. my

  1727. goodness

  1728. I'm

  1729. being

  1730. battered

  1731. I'm

  1732. being

  1733. battered

  1734. I'm

  1735. under

  1736. the

  1737. but

  1738. God

  1739. is

  1740. achieving

  1741. his

  1742. good

  1743. purpose

  1744. of

  1745. refining

  1746. and

  1747. purifying

  1748. and

  1749. winnowing

  1750. the wheat

  1751. from the

  1752. chaff

  1753. so

  1754. these

  1755. things

  1756. come

  1757. together

  1758. so

  1759. there's

  1760. our

  1761. first

  1762. puzzle

  1763. hopefully

  1764. a little

  1765. bit

  1766. illuminated

  1767. our

  1768. second

  1769. puzzle

  1770. is

  1771. if

  1772. God's

  1773. sovereign

  1774. decree

  1775. ordains

  1776. all

  1777. things

  1778. including

  1779. human

  1780. actions

  1781. how

  1782. can

  1783. we

  1784. rightly

  1785. be

  1786. accountable

  1787. for

  1788. them

  1789. well

  1790. let's

  1791. take

  1792. for

  1793. guidance

  1794. in

  1795. this

  1796. puzzle

  1797. the

  1798. biblical

  1799. case

  1800. of

  1801. God's

  1802. ordaining

  1803. the

  1804. Assyrian

  1805. empire

  1806. to

  1807. scourge

  1808. apostate

  1809. Israel

  1810. for her

  1811. disobedience

  1812. God

  1813. describes

  1814. Assyria

  1815. as

  1816. vividly

  1817. Isaiah

  1818. 10

  1819. 5

  1820. the

  1821. rod

  1822. of

  1823. my

  1824. anger

  1825. the

  1826. axe

  1827. with

  1828. which

  1829. I

  1830. hew

  1831. the

  1832. saw

  1833. I

  1834. wield

  1835. that

  1836. is

  1837. God

  1838. manipulates

  1839. Assyria

  1840. as one

  1841. would

  1842. an

  1843. inanimate

  1844. tool

  1845. deploying

  1846. them for

  1847. his

  1848. errand

  1849. of

  1850. judgment

  1851. so you

  1852. can see

  1853. oh

  1854. how can

  1855. he

  1856. hold

  1857. that

  1858. if

  1859. he's

  1860. just

  1861. how

  1862. that

  1863. as

  1864. he

  1865. writes

  1866. against

  1867. a

  1868. godless

  1869. nation

  1870. I

  1871. send

  1872. him

  1873. Assyria

  1874. against

  1875. the

  1876. people

  1877. of

  1878. my

  1879. wrath

  1880. I

  1881. command

  1882. him

  1883. to

  1884. take

  1885. and

  1886. to

  1887. seize

  1888. and

  1889. to

  1890. plunder

  1891. and

  1892. to

  1893. tread

  1894. them

  1895. down

  1896. like

  1897. the

  1898. mire

  1899. in

  1900. the

  1901. streets

  1902. but

  1903. and

  1904. this

  1905. is

  1906. the

  1907. critical

  1908. point

  1909. to

  1910. recognize

  1911. God

  1912. does

  1913. not

  1914. need

  1915. to

  1916. sow

  1917. evil

  1918. into

  1919. the

  1920. Assyrian

  1921. hearts

  1922. for

  1923. them

  1924. to

  1925. act

  1926. in

  1927. this

  1928. role

  1929. their

  1930. hearts

  1931. are

  1932. already

  1933. remorseless

  1934. cruel

  1935. grasping

  1936. already

  1937. with the

  1938. disposition

  1939. to enact

  1940. cruel

  1941. rapacious

  1942. villainies

  1943. God

  1944. need

  1945. not

  1946. teach

  1947. the

  1948. Assyrians

  1949. new

  1950. tricks

  1951. to

  1952. use

  1953. them

  1954. cruelly

  1955. neither

  1956. get

  1957. them

  1958. to

  1959. act

  1960. contrary

  1961. to

  1962. their

  1963. habituated

  1964. evil

  1965. they

  1966. are

  1967. self

  1968. made

  1969. accomplished

  1970. experts

  1971. in

  1972. evil

  1973. as

  1974. the

  1975. next

  1976. verse

  1977. testifies

  1978. of the

  1979. Assyrians

  1980. verse

  1981. seven

  1982. it

  1983. is

  1984. in

  1985. their

  1986. heart

  1987. to

  1988. destroy

  1989. do

  1990. you see

  1991. that

  1992. and

  1993. so

  1994. after

  1995. using

  1996. Assyria

  1997. to

  1998. accomplish

  1999. his

  2000. purpose

  2001. of

  2002. disciplining

  2003. his

  2004. wayward

  2005. people

  2006. God

  2007. turns

  2008. and

  2009. judges

  2010. the

  2011. Assyrians

  2012. for their

  2013. pride

  2014. and

  2015. cruelty

  2016. when

  2017. I

  2018. or sorry

  2019. when the

  2020. Lord

  2021. has

  2022. finished

  2023. his

  2024. work

  2025. on

  2026. Mount

  2027. Zion

  2028. disciplining

  2029. his

  2030. people

  2031. he

  2032. the

  2033. Hebrew

  2034. says

  2035. I

  2036. I

  2037. the

  2038. Lord

  2039. will

  2040. punish

  2041. the

  2042. arrogant

  2043. heart

  2044. of the

  2045. king

  2046. of

  2047. Assyria

  2048. verse

  2049. 12

  2050. and

  2051. God

  2052. rightly

  2053. judges

  2054. wicked

  2055. hearts

  2056. that

  2057. sin

  2058. willingly

  2059. it's

  2060. no

  2061. excuse

  2062. for

  2063. their

  2064. sin

  2065. that

  2066. God

  2067. used

  2068. them

  2069. to

  2070. accomplish

  2071. his

  2072. purpose

  2073. in

  2074. our

  2075. sin

  2076. we

  2077. make

  2078. real

  2079. choices

  2080. and

  2081. are

  2082. accountable

  2083. for

  2084. them

  2085. God

  2086. need

  2087. not

  2088. introduce

  2089. sin

  2090. into

  2091. our

  2092. actions

  2093. like

  2094. some

  2095. sort

  2096. of

  2097. exogenous

  2098. seed

  2099. our

  2100. sin

  2101. is

  2102. native

  2103. to

  2104. our

  2105. own

  2106. hearts

  2107. and

  2108. home

  2109. grown

  2110. when

  2111. we

  2112. sin

  2113. we

  2114. sin

  2115. heartily

  2116. our

  2117. whole

  2118. hearts

  2119. are

  2120. in

  2121. our

  2122. sin

  2123. and

  2124. I

  2125. think

  2126. we

  2127. know

  2128. in

  2129. our

  2130. honest

  2131. moments

  2132. that

  2133. our

  2134. choices

  2135. are

  2136. authentically

  2137. our

  2138. own

  2139. and

  2140. to

  2141. seek

  2142. to

  2143. wriggle

  2144. out

  2145. of

  2146. responsibility

  2147. by

  2148. blaming

  2149. God's

  2150. sovereignty

  2151. that's

  2152. mere

  2153. evasion

  2154. and

  2155. will

  2156. not

  2157. stand

  2158. in

  2159. the

  2160. judgment

  2161. now

  2162. there

  2163. is no

  2164. doubt

  2165. much

  2166. mystery

  2167. here

  2168. and

  2169. how

  2170. could

  2171. it

  2172. not

  2173. be

  2174. so

  2175. for

  2176. we

  2177. can

  2178. merely

  2179. grasp

  2180. the

  2181. fringes

  2182. of

  2183. his

  2184. ways

  2185. and

  2186. how

  2187. indeed

  2188. should

  2189. we

  2190. expect

  2191. otherwise

  2192. for

  2193. how

  2194. are

  2195. we

  2196. to

  2197. apprehend

  2198. let

  2199. alone

  2200. comprehend

  2201. the

  2202. way

  2203. of

  2204. an

  2205. infinite

  2206. person

  2207. relating

  2208. to

  2209. finite

  2210. persons

  2211. the

  2212. creator

  2213. with

  2214. his

  2215. image

  2216. bearing

  2217. creatures

  2218. if

  2219. there

  2220. were

  2221. no

  2222. mystery

  2223. here

  2224. it

  2225. would

  2226. not

  2227. only

  2228. be

  2229. surprising

  2230. I

  2231. think

  2232. it

  2233. would

  2234. probably

  2235. be

  2236. suspicious

  2237. the

  2238. regenerate

  2239. heart

  2240. shall

  2241. respond

  2242. in

  2243. a

  2244. resting

  2245. rejoicing

  2246. at the

  2247. supreme

  2248. sovereignty

  2249. and

  2250. all

  2251. governance

  2252. of

  2253. God!

  2254. It

  2255. is

  2256. perhaps

  2257. the

  2258. mark

  2259. of

  2260. the

  2261. unregenerate

  2262. if

  2263. the

  2264. response

  2265. is

  2266. one

  2267. of

  2268. rankling

  2269. and

  2270. rejection!

  2271. John

  2272. Paul

  2273. Sartre

  2274. writes

  2275. how

  2276. as

  2277. a

  2278. little

  2279. boy

  2280. he

  2281. hated

  2282. the

  2283. very

  2284. thought

  2285. of

  2286. God

  2287. as

  2288. one

  2289. whose

  2290. very

  2291. being

  2292. must

  2293. impinge

  2294. upon

  2295. his

  2296. own

  2297. absolute

  2298. sovereignty

  2299. and

  2300. utter

  2301. freedom

  2302. to be

  2303. the

  2304. supreme

  2305. dictator

  2306. of

  2307. his

  2308. life

  2309. as

  2310. he

  2311. later

  2312. expressed

  2313. it

  2314. in

  2315. a

  2316. syllogism

  2317. if

  2318. God

  2319. exists

  2320. I

  2321. am

  2322. not

  2323. free

  2324. but

  2325. I

  2326. am

  2327. free

  2328. therefore

  2329. God

  2330. cannot

  2331. exist

  2332. such

  2333. is

  2334. the

  2335. common

  2336. corrupted

  2337. heart

  2338. human

  2339. instinct

  2340. which

  2341. imagines

  2342. itself

  2343. enthroned

  2344. and

  2345. carrying

  2346. the

  2347. sovereign

  2348. scepter

  2349. in

  2350. its

  2351. mock

  2352. majesty

  2353. we

  2354. vainly

  2355. imagine

  2356. it

  2357. so

  2358. for

  2359. we

  2360. fancy

  2361. ourselves

  2362. the

  2363. center

  2364. of

  2365. all

  2366. with

  2367. all

  2368. else

  2369. orbiting

  2370. around

  2371. us

  2372. I'm

  2373. reminded

  2374. of an

  2375. incident

  2376. recounted

  2377. in

  2378. naval

  2379. lore

  2380. one

  2381. dark

  2382. night

  2383. a

  2384. battleship

  2385. is

  2386. plowing

  2387. through

  2388. the

  2389. open

  2390. sea

  2391. at

  2392. full

  2393. speed

  2394. ahead

  2395. when

  2396. a

  2397. light

  2398. appeared

  2399. approaching

  2400. dead

  2401. ahead

  2402. the

  2403. admiral

  2404. signaled

  2405. Change

  2406. your

  2407. course

  2408. ten

  2409. degrees

  2410. to

  2411. the

  2412. north

  2413. only

  2414. to

  2415. receive

  2416. back

  2417. the

  2418. signal

  2419. you

  2420. change

  2421. your

  2422. course

  2423. ten

  2424. degrees

  2425. to

  2426. the

  2427. north

  2428. taken

  2429. aback

  2430. the

  2431. commander

  2432. signaled

  2433. I

  2434. am

  2435. an

  2436. admiral

  2437. in

  2438. his

  2439. majesty's

  2440. royal

  2441. navy

  2442. change

  2443. your

  2444. course

  2445. ten

  2446. degrees

  2447. only

  2448. to

  2449. receive

  2450. back

  2451. the

  2452. signal

  2453. I'm

  2454. an

  2455. able

  2456. bodied

  2457. seaman

  2458. in

  2459. his

  2460. majesty's

  2461. navy

  2462. you

  2463. change

  2464. your

  2465. course

  2466. now

  2467. irate

  2468. at

  2469. the

  2470. impertinence

  2471. the

  2472. admiral

  2473. signaled

  2474. I

  2475. am

  2476. a

  2477. battleship

  2478. you

  2479. change

  2480. your

  2481. course

  2482. ten

  2483. degrees

  2484. to

  2485. the

  2486. north

  2487. back

  2488. came

  2489. the

  2490. signal

  2491. no

  2492. you

  2493. change

  2494. your

  2495. course

  2496. ten

  2497. degrees

  2498. to

  2499. the

  2500. north

  2501. I

  2502. am

  2503. a

  2504. lighthouse

  2505. some

  2506. realities

  2507. one

  2508. uniquely

  2509. in

  2510. virtue

  2511. of

  2512. what

  2513. it

  2514. is

  2515. and

  2516. cannot

  2517. but

  2518. be

  2519. the

  2520. supreme

  2521. reality

  2522. it

  2523. or let

  2524. us

  2525. say

  2526. he

  2527. does

  2528. not

  2529. adjust

  2530. to

  2531. us

  2532. we

  2533. adjust

  2534. to

  2535. him

  2536. it

  2537. could

  2538. not

  2539. be

  2540. otherwise

  2541. that

  2542. supreme

  2543. reality

  2544. the

  2545. all

  2546. governing

  2547. mighty

  2548. God

  2549. is

  2550. the

  2551. sovereign

  2552. ruler

  2553. of

  2554. his

  2555. creation

  2556. and

  2557. he

  2558. works

  2559. all

  2560. things

  2561. according

  2562. to

  2563. his

  2564. will

  2565. and

  2566. that

  2567. God

  2568. works

  2569. all

  2570. things

  2571. according

  2572. that

  2573. sorry

  2574. and

  2575. that

  2576. God

  2577. works

  2578. all

  2579. things

  2580. according

  2581. to

  2582. his

  2583. will

  2584. anchors

  2585. the

  2586. assurance

  2587. that

  2588. all

  2589. things

  2590. he

  2591. infallibly

  2592. works

  2593. together

  2594. for

  2595. the

  2596. good

  2597. of

  2598. those

  2599. who

  2600. love

  2601. him

  2602. as

  2603. Jonathan

  2604. Edwards

  2605. writes

  2606. every

  2607. atom

  2608. in the

  2609. universe

  2610. is

  2611. managed

  2612. by

  2613. Christ

  2614. so

  2615. as

  2616. to

  2617. be

  2618. most

  2619. to

  2620. the

  2621. advantage

  2622. of

  2623. the

  2624. Christian

  2625. isn't

  2626. that

  2627. wonderful

  2628. think

  2629. about

  2630. that

  2631. every

  2632. atom

  2633. in

  2634. the

  2635. universe

  2636. is

  2637. managed

  2638. by

  2639. Christ

  2640. so

  2641. as

  2642. to

  2643. be

  2644. most

  2645. to

  2646. the

  2647. advantage

  2648. of

  2649. the

  2650. Christian

  2651. and

  2652. the

  2653. good

  2654. in the

  2655. all

  2656. things

  2657. for

  2658. good

  2659. here

  2660. referenced

  2661. in

  2662. the

  2663. scripture

  2664. Romans

  2665. 8

  2666. 28

  2667. is

  2668. the

  2669. good

  2670. of

  2671. the

  2672. salvation

  2673. of

  2674. his

  2675. people

  2676. and

  2677. how

  2678. this

  2679. saving

  2680. good

  2681. unfolds

  2682. for

  2683. his

  2684. people

  2685. is

  2686. encompassed

  2687. in

  2688. the

  2689. doctrines

  2690. of

  2691. grace

  2692. to

  2693. which

  2694. we

  2695. shall

  2696. return

  2697. next

  2698. week

  2699. Lord

  2700. willing

  2701. when

  2702. we

  2703. shall

  2704. see

  2705. that

  2706. all

  2707. of

  2708. God's

  2709. sovereign

  2710. ways

  2711. end

  2712. in

  2713. saints

  2714. celestial

  2715. joys

  2716. all

  2717. of

  2718. God's

  2719. sovereign

  2720. ways

  2721. end

  2722. in

  2723. saints

  2724. celestial

  2725. joys

  2726. let's

  2727. pray

  2728. Lord

  2729. these

  2730. truths

  2731. are highly

  2732. exalted

  2733. and

  2734. deeply

  2735. mysterious

  2736. that we

  2737. have

  2738. dealt

  2739. with

  2740. here

  2741. we

  2742. ask

  2743. Lord

  2744. for

  2745. your

  2746. Holy

  2747. Spirit

  2748. to

  2749. render

  2750. them

  2751. unto

  2752. us

  2753. such

  2754. that

  2755. our

  2756. hearts

  2757. will

  2758. become

  2759. holier

  2760. which

  2761. is

  2762. your

  2763. greatest

  2764. pleasure

  2765. and

  2766. that

  2767. our

  2768. lives

  2769. too

  2770. would

  2771. become

  2772. holier

  2773. which

  2774. is

  2775. your

  2776. greatest

  2777. honor

  2778. and

  2779. we

  2780. ask

  2781. it

  2782. for

  2783. the

  2784. glory

  2785. sake

  2786. of

  2787. Christ

  2788. amen

  2789. I

  2790. think

  2791. team

  2792. we

  2793. have

  2794. probably

  2795. a few

  2796. minutes

  2797. for

  2798. any

  2799. questions

  2800. or

  2801. comments

  2802. that you

  2803. have

  2804. I

  2805. tried

  2806. to

  2807. go

  2808. as

  2809. long

  2810. as

  2811. I

  2812. possibly

  2813. could

  2814. to

  2815. avert

  2816. the

  2817. hazard

  2818. of

  2819. this

  2820. but

  2821. alas

  2822. here

  2823. we

  2824. are

  2825. I

  2826. got

  2827. excited

  2828. and

  2829. spoke

  2830. quickly

  2831. so

  2832. if

  2833. anyone

  2834. has

  2835. any

  2836. comments

  2837. I

  2838. be

  2839. happy

  2840. to

  2841. try

  2842. or

  2843. I

  2844. I

  2845. pled

  2846. with

  2847. Nick

  2848. to

  2849. be

  2850. in

  2851. the

  2852. back

  2853. just

  2854. in

  2855. case

  2856. I

  2857. come

  2858. up

  2859. !

  2860. Matt

  2861. already

  2862. fled

  2863. so

  2864. I

  2865. don't

  2866. know

  2867. if

  2868. it's

  2869. as much

  2870. a

  2871. question

  2872. how

  2873. would

  2874. you

  2875. describe

  2876. you

  2877. talked

  2878. about

  2879. how

  2880. even

  2881. the

  2882. particle

  2883. of

  2884. dust

  2885. is

  2886. in

  2887. control

  2888. and I

  2889. don't

  2890. think

  2891. any

  2892. of

  2893. us

  2894. doubt

  2895. that

  2896. but

  2897. eons

  2898. ago

  2899. God

  2900. set

  2901. these

  2902. things

  2903. in

  2904. motion

  2905. and

  2906. said

  2907. there

  2908. are

  2909. things

  2910. like

  2911. gravity

  2912. and

  2913. extremes

  2914. to

  2915. control

  2916. the dust

  2917. particle

  2918. and

  2919. rain

  2920. and

  2921. snow

  2922. and

  2923. ice

  2924. melt

  2925. so

  2926. how

  2927. would

  2928. you

  2929. kind

  2930. of

  2931. yeah

  2932. yeah

  2933. yeah

  2934. so

  2935. you're

  2936. right

  2937. Chris

  2938. it is

  2939. the fashion

  2940. to

  2941. think

  2942. about

  2943. these

  2944. dynamics

  2945. of nature

  2946. we

  2947. describe

  2948. them

  2949. as

  2950. laws

  2951. because

  2952. we

  2953. see

  2954. the

  2955. consistency

  2956. of

  2957. their

  2958. relation

  2959. and

  2960. operation

  2961. the

  2962. dynamics

  2963. and

  2964. it's

  2965. very

  2966. tempted

  2967. to

  2968. imagine

  2969. that

  2970. their

  2971. nature

  2972. and

  2973. power

  2974. and

  2975. dispositions

  2976. are

  2977. something

  2978. that is

  2979. simply

  2980. intrinsic

  2981. to

  2982. them

  2983. but

  2984. I

  2985. don't

  2986. think

  2987. that

  2988. this

  2989. is

  2990. the

  2991. way

  2992. the

  2993. scripture

  2994. talks

  2995. about

  2996. these

  2997. things

  2998. and

  2999. I

  3000. don't

  3001. think

  3002. that

  3003. it's

  3004. just

  3005. metaphorical

  3006. language

  3007. I

  3008. do

  3009. think

  3010. that

  3011. God

  3012. does

  3013. directly

  3014. ordain

  3015. all

  3016. things

  3017. so

  3018. the

  3019. scripture

  3020. thinks

  3021. about

  3022. these

  3023. things

  3024. as

  3025. covenant

  3026. relationships

  3027. so

  3028. imagine

  3029. God

  3030. having

  3031. a

  3032. covenant

  3033. relationship

  3034. with

  3035. every

  3036. atom

  3037. in the

  3038. universe

  3039. as

  3040. Jonathan

  3041. Edwards

  3042. talks

  3043. about

  3044. what

  3045. is

  3046. a

  3047. covenant

  3048. relationship

  3049. it's

  3050. where

  3051. there

  3052. is

  3053. one

  3054. that

  3055. commands

  3056. and

  3057. one

  3058. that

  3059. obeys

  3060. that's

  3061. a

  3062. covenant

  3063. relationship

  3064. so

  3065. I

  3066. think

  3067. the

  3068. Bible

  3069. thinks

  3070. about

  3071. this

  3072. as

  3073. actually

  3074. a

  3075. relationship

  3076. of

  3077. command

  3078. and

  3079. obedience

  3080. so

  3081. that's

  3082. a

  3083. little

  3084. different

  3085. isn't

  3086. it

  3087. now

  3088. things

  3089. on

  3090. the

  3091. surface

  3092. might

  3093. look

  3094. the

  3095. same

  3096. way

  3097. say

  3098. you

  3099. imagine

  3100. the

  3101. guard

  3102. in front

  3103. of the

  3104. tomb

  3105. of the

  3106. unknown

  3107. soldier

  3108. and

  3109. you

  3110. see

  3111. what

  3112. seems

  3113. to be

  3114. he's

  3115. marching

  3116. to the

  3117. north

  3118. and

  3119. then

  3120. spins

  3121. around

  3122. and

  3123. marches

  3124. to the

  3125. south

  3126. and

  3127. then

  3128. spins

  3129. around

  3130. and

  3131. you

  3132. might

  3133. describe

  3134. it

  3135. and

  3136. you've

  3137. worked

  3138. out

  3139. a

  3140. formula

  3141. and

  3142. you

  3143. might

  3144. think

  3145. well

  3146. this

  3147. is

  3148. governed

  3149. by

  3150. a

  3151. law

  3152. here

  3153. it's

  3154. absolutely

  3155. consistent

  3156. and

  3157. you

  3158. might

  3159. think

  3160. that

  3161. mechanistically

  3162. that

  3163. that

  3164. is

  3165. simply

  3166. expressing

  3167. the

  3168. nature

  3169. and

  3170. character

  3171. of

  3172. that

  3173. soldier

  3174. that

  3175. is

  3176. just

  3177. governed

  3178. by

  3179. a

  3180. law

  3181. and

  3182. you

  3183. could

  3184. be

  3185. forgiven

  3186. for

  3187. thinking

  3188. that

  3189. way

  3190. and

  3191. that's

  3192. a

  3193. good

  3194. description

  3195. but

  3196. actually

  3197. you'd

  3198. be

  3199. wrong

  3200. he

  3201. was

  3202. actually

  3203. doing

  3204. that

  3205. order

  3206. in

  3207. response

  3208. to

  3209. a

  3210. command

  3211. he

  3212. was

  3213. under

  3214. command

  3215. same

  3216. sort

  3217. of

  3218. motion

  3219. you

  3220. know

  3221. you're

  3222. not

  3223. going

  3224. to

  3225. see

  3226. the

  3227. difference

  3228. when

  3229. your

  3230. telescope

  3231. or

  3232. your

  3233. microscope

  3234. but

  3235. there

  3236. is

  3237. a

  3238. real

  3239. difference

  3240. so

  3241. that's

  3242. how

  3243. I

  3244. think

  3245. of it

  3246. I

  3247. do

  3248. not

  3249. think

  3250. that

  3251. there

  3252. is

  3253. any

  3254. efficacy

  3255. any

  3256. sort

  3257. of

  3258. autonomous

  3259. efficacy

  3260. in

  3261. anything

  3262. apart

  3263. from

  3264. God

  3265. sustaining

  3266. so

  3267. except

  3268. the

  3269. Lord

  3270. build

  3271. a

  3272. house

  3273. they

  3274. that

  3275. labor

  3276. labor

  3277. in

  3278. vain

  3279. who

  3280. build

  3281. it

  3282. except

  3283. the

  3284. Lord

  3285. keep

  3286. a

  3287. city

  3288. and

  3289. except

  3290. you

  3291. keep

  3292. a

  3293. pilot

  3294. light

  3295. lit

  3296. in

  3297. my

  3298. furnace

  3299. it

  3300. will

  3301. not

  3302. light

  3303. so

  3304. does that

  3305. help

  3306. Chris

  3307. yeah

  3308. yes

  3309. yeah

  3310. yeah

  3311. yeah

  3312. yeah

  3313. yeah

  3314. huh

  3315. yeah

  3316. the most violent thing that ever happened in the universe when man first disobeyed God.

  3317. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  3318. Everything followed.

  3319. Yes, interesting.

  3320. I see that in terms of the consequentiality of that act.

  3321. Absolutely, absolutely disastrous and devastating.

  3322. And yeah, one could argue.

  3323. I mean, maybe it's a little bit like, you know, the little kid grabs a toothpaste, you

  3324. know, interested in measuring things.

  3325. Well, I wonder how long the worm is inside the little toothpaste tube, you know, all

  3326. of the house.

  3327. It's really, and you know, it took a little effort to get the thing out.

  3328. But boy, to get it back into the tube, that's, maybe that's even a little bit harder too.

  3329. And, you know, so is redemption greater than the fall in terms of its consequentiality?

  3330. I don't know, we can debate that.

  3331. But I see your point.

  3332. You can't speak about the covenant of redemption.

  3333. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  3334. I will.

  3335. I will.

  3336. I will.

  3337. That's coming up.

  3338. Yeah, that's coming up.

  3339. Yeah, Tyler.

  3340. Just to come for this, one of my favorite quotes from John Newton, who I love, is he said,

  3341. isn't it a comfort to know that hands that look pierced for you are the same hands that

  3342. God always does?

  3343. And the idea that, like, even in our own lives, we have these chance encounters where, like,

  3344. maybe there's like these random events, like we met someone who introduced us, someone

  3345. that shared a gospel with us.

  3346. And, you know, I can think of my own life or something like that.

  3347. Yeah.

  3348. I think that's kind of like God is providentially putting these things in our lives that, for

  3349. us, it just seems like, oh, it's some guy around the street.

  3350. And he invited me to a Bible study or something like that.

  3351. And, but all these things are like God bringing his people to himself.

  3352. And it is kind of a, it's a comfort to know, not only the good and the bad, but these things

  3353. that God is working on a lot.

  3354. Yeah.

  3355. Absolutely.

  3356. Yeah.

  3357. Yeah.

  3358. I think I, when I think of these issues, I think more about underneath everything is the

  3359. character and person of God.

  3360. And his, his original intention was to create creation and to be like that, you know, to join

  3361. this group of his life.

  3362. To give, just simply be a reflection of who he is.

  3363. And I think that underneath all of the problems of creation is this fundamental purpose in

  3364. the God that I think the end seems to be, what is his intention when I have an internal

  3365. family as well to reflect back, to enjoy the things that I want to share with him?

  3366. So I think that helps round out this issue of evil entering what was good.

  3367. And his intention is always to be accomplished, but that sin will be repeated and his original

  3368. purpose is good to be repeated.

  3369. His sovereignty.

  3370. Yes.

  3371. Yes.

  3372. Amen.

  3373. Amen.

  3374. Yeah.

  3375. Thank you.

  3376. Yeah.

  3377. Just to complicate what Ralph said a little bit, how do we account for God's sovereignty in

  3378. the fall of the man?

  3379. You know, I feel like, you know, there's solutions that are pretty glib, right?

  3380. Like, like for a while I was like, oh yeah, Felix Coulter, that pretty much covered it.

  3381. And I'm like, ah, there's a problem with that too.

  3382. You know, like, you know what I'm saying?

  3383. No, I've never thought of that problem before.

  3384. Say more.

  3385. No, no, no, no.

  3386. I'm dead.

  3387. Yeah.

  3388. What was he doing in the garden?

  3389. I know, I know, I know what you're saying.

  3390. Yeah.

  3391. Um, uh, uh, I, I, I think that that's, uh, one of the most difficult, difficult problems

  3392. to, to solve.

  3393. Uh, you just, um, uh, and, and, and I wonder if part of it, and this, this won't answer it

  3394. and it's going to take longer than we would have to do a decent job on that.

  3395. But, but one of the interesting things when we're trying to account for the origin of sin

  3396. and the way we think of an account means, um, you need to offer a rational explanation for

  3397. this thing.

  3398. That's what we think.

  3399. Well, that's what we mean when we say an account, give a satisfying account, give a rational

  3400. explanation, which is a little bit difficult.

  3401. Is it not?

  3402. When scripture among its themes is the, the ultimate irrationality of evil.

  3403. So that, you know, that, that, that kind of puts us trying to swim against a current that's

  3404. pretty, pretty fierce.

  3405. So, um, it's, I, I wonder if there's ever going to be an account that we could render here

  3406. below that is going to be satisfying to us.

  3407. Uh, you know, I feel like, as, uh, the woman of Samaria told you, the well is deep and you

  3408. have nothing to draw with, you know, the well is deep here and I have very little to draw

  3409. with.

  3410. Uh, uh, so, but yes, it's, it's worth raising that and we might do a whole series sometime

  3411. on that very question.

  3412. Yes, yes, yes.

  3413. Yes.

  3414. Yes.

  3415. Yes.

  3416. Yeah.

  3417. Yeah.

  3418. And, and then, and what you said about, you know, well, the most violent thing, right?

  3419. Uh, why did that things happen to good people?

  3420. Well, that only happened once and he volunteered.

  3421. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

  3422. So if, well, how will God not along with his only son give us all things, we have to trust

  3423. him.

  3424. Yeah.

  3425. No matter, it doesn't matter why so much to me anymore, why the tree is there, where

  3426. it comes from, as long as that has been on my side.

  3427. On my side?

  3428. Yes.

  3429. Right.

  3430. Yeah.

  3431. Yeah.

  3432. Yeah.

  3433. That's good, Josh.

  3434. Yeah.

  3435. Deuteronomy 24, 24.

  3436. The secret of the Lord remains with the Lord.

  3437. What he has revealed.

  3438. That is for us, our children and our children's children.

  3439. And what he has revealed is what is to make us wise unto salvation.

  3440. And that's where we're going to turn from here.

  3441. We should probably close at this point.

  3442. Thank you, team.

  3443. Lord willing, we'll see you next week where we will pick up with, um, uh, uh, uh,

  3444. a beginning before we had our beginning talking about God's everlasting or his eternal ancient

  3445. choice.

  3446. Uh, so see you next week if you're able to make it.

  3447. Thanks.

  3448. Uh, do we want to order these?

  3449. I just want everyone to move into the hallway so we have to reset this room up for children's

  3450. church.

  3451. So feel free, we've got a few minutes at those of our start and you guys can just get out

  3452. of the hallway or we'll rearrange this room for what's happening again.

  3453. Thanks.

  3454. Ah.

  3455. Thank you.

  3456. Thank you.