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Doctrine of Creation

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  1. It is exactly 9 o'clock, and so I might as well just start, because I like to start on a round number, so if it's not 9, it'll be 9.05, and then that just takes too long.

  2. So, why don't we start with prayer, and then we can jump right in.

  3. Father God, creator of heaven and earth, we ask that you would bless this time that we have together, that you would be revealed more fully through our time,

  4. and that through this discussion and through this time of learning, we can learn to glorify you more and see you everywhere.

  5. In Jesus' name, amen.

  6. Amen.

  7. All right. So, good morning, everyone. I'm Luke Batty. I'm a professional scientist, although that really won't come in very much today.

  8. So, just think of me as another layperson.

  9. And we're starting today a new class series on the doctrine of creation, and oftentimes the doctrine of creation can kind of feel like a battleground, you know.

  10. Where we're always talking about different views on the age of the earth, the matter of days, evolution.

  11. And in this class, we are going to cover some of these things, for sure, but I think our goal here is to look at the doctrine of creation with a view to how we can more fully receive the foundational teaching as creation is a gift of God.

  12. Creation is a gift from God.

  13. Creation is a gift from God, and how we can then take creation as a gift and return to God as our creator by glorifying him.

  14. So, today, we're basically, over the next seven weeks or so, we're going to take Genesis 1.

  15. Chapter 1 is sort of our guide as we move slowly through it, and we pick up different elements of the narrative and what we can learn from it.

  16. And so, today, I'll be starting at the very, very beginning.

  17. The very beginning, you know.

  18. So, before I jump in, though, why don't we...

  19. I love... I don't know about you guys, but I love mythology.

  20. Does anybody else here love mythology of different cultures, etc.?

  21. Yeah, I'm crazy about it.

  22. I grew up with... my parents had the doulairs.

  23. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that right.

  24. Doulairs, like book of Greek myths and Norse myths and all that stuff.

  25. So, I grew up with that stuff.

  26. It's my bread and butter.

  27. So, I love hearing different cultures' creation myths.

  28. So, I thought I'd give you a few samplings, and then we can use that as a starting point for differentiating the biblical worldview.

  29. So, let's start with Greek myth.

  30. This is coming from Hesiods.

  31. Cosmogeny, if... or Cosmogony.

  32. I actually, honestly, don't know Greek.

  33. So, it could be pronounced either way.

  34. Cosmogeny sounds more interesting to me, though.

  35. So, it starts this way.

  36. First, there was chaos.

  37. Then broad-chested Gaia, the steadfast seed of all immortals who live upon the snowy peaks of Olympus.

  38. Then murky Tartarus in the depths of the white earth.

  39. And Eros, most beautiful of the immortal gods, who weakens the limbs and overwhelms the minds and wise counsel in the breast of all gods and humans.

  40. Chaos gave birth to Erebus and black Nyx.

  41. And from Nyx came Aether and Hermera, conceived after Nyx joined in love with Erebus.

  42. First, Gaia bore story Uranus, her equal, to envelop her on all sides so she would be the ever-secure home for the blessed gods.

  43. Then she bore Tal-Uria, pleasant refuge of the goddess Nymphs on the mountain forests, and the sterile swelling seas of Pontus.

  44. All of these she bore alone.

  45. Then she bedded Uranus and bore deep whirling Oceanus,

  46. Coeus, Creus, Hyperion, Iapetus, Thea, Rhea, Themis, Nimesanine, and it goes on,

  47. golden-crowned Phoebe, and fair Tethys.

  48. Then Wily Kronos was born, her youngest and most dreadful child, who hated his fearsome father.

  49. And so for those of you who are familiar with Greek myth, we all know about Kronos, right?

  50. Kronos was the big bad guy.

  51. He was like, I want to be top dog.

  52. And so he started eating his children, because there was some sort of prophecy, I think,

  53. that one of his children would supplant him.

  54. So he's like, I'll solve that problem just by eating my kids.

  55. Which, right?

  56. Why wouldn't you?

  57. But then, as we know, Zeus was hidden away, right?

  58. And then he comes back and beats up his dad, and then all of his siblings get vomited out.

  59. It's a very fun, interesting story.

  60. But that's how Greek mythology starts.

  61. That's the creation myth of Greek mythology, or at least one of them.

  62. Here's another one I think really is interesting.

  63. This is Norse mythology.

  64. This one starts,

  65. Before there was soil or sky or any green thing, there was only the gaping abyss of Gnungagap.

  66. This chaos of perfect silence and darkness lay between the homeland of elemental fire, Muspelheim,

  67. and the homeland of elemental ice, Niflheim.

  68. Frost from Niflheim and billowing frames of Muspelheim crept towards each other until they met in Gnungagap.

  69. Amid the hissing and sputtering, the fire melted the ice, and the drops formed themselves into Ymir,

  70. the first of the godlike but destructive giants.

  71. When he slept, more giants leapt forth from his legs and from the sweat of his armpits.

  72. I'm sure we were all familiar with that.

  73. As the frost continued to melt, a cow, Adumia, emerged from it.

  74. She nourished Ymir with her milk, and she in turn was nourished by salt licks in the ice.

  75. Her licks slowly uncovered Buri, the first of the Aesir tribe of gods.

  76. Buri had a son named Bor, who married Besla, the daughter of the giant bolt-thorn.

  77. The half-god, half-giant children of Bor and Besla were Odin,

  78. who became the chief of the Aesir gods, and his two brothers, Vili and Vey.

  79. Odin and his brothers slew Ymir and set about constructing the world from his corpse.

  80. They fashioned the oceans from his blood, the soil from his skin and muscles,

  81. vegetation from his hair, clouds from his brain, and the sky from his skull,

  82. where four dwarves, corresponding to the four cardinal points,

  83. held Ymir's skull aloft above the earth.

  84. And then, after that, we get into all the fun of the adventures of Odin

  85. and the other Aesir gods and the Veynir gods,

  86. if you're familiar with Norse mythology.

  87. Lots of fun, weird stuff.

  88. That's the Norse creation myth.

  89. Here, let's bring it a little closer to the context of the writing of Genesis.

  90. We have here the Babylonian Enuma Elish.

  91. This starts,

  92. When the heavens above did not exist, and earth beneath had not come into being,

  93. there was Apsu, which is fresh water, the first in order, their begetter,

  94. and Demi urged Tiamat, that's salt water, who gave birth to them all.

  95. They had mingled their waters together before meadowland had coalesced and reedbed was to be found.

  96. When not one of the gods had been formed or had come into being,

  97. when no destinies had been decreed, the gods were created within them.

  98. Lamu and Lahamu were formed and came into being.

  99. While they grew and increased in stature, Ansar and Kisar, who excelled them, were created.

  100. And then on and on and on.

  101. More gods, more interesting stuff happens.

  102. Creation of humans.

  103. That's like, we'll bring, I'll mention that later in a little bit.

  104. So these are different, this is just sort of a survey of different ways

  105. that creation has been understood in different cultures, in different times.

  106. In ancient times, in Babylon, in Norse mythology, in Greek mythology.

  107. Let's compare and contrast these creation stories with the beginning we have in Genesis.

  108. This starts, Genesis 1.

  109. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

  110. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep,

  111. and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

  112. And then it continues on for the days, which we will continue to talk about later.

  113. Does anybody see, what are some of the differences you guys see in this account here

  114. versus the other accounts we read earlier?

  115. Anything jump out at you?

  116. Yes?

  117. God exists before, not for a picture.

  118. Yeah, yeah, it seems like God is there at the beginning, right?

  119. And then there's nothing else, right?

  120. What else?

  121. Anybody see anything else?

  122. In the other myths, there's a lot of action, a lot of interaction.

  123. Whereas, from what you read from Genesis, there's a pregnant presence.

  124. Yeah.

  125. Yeah, sort of like there's more characters going on.

  126. There's more conflict, maybe, we could say.

  127. Whereas in this account, there is no conflict.

  128. There's just the Word of God.

  129. So I think, yeah, Matt?

  130. In all of them, I think there was some idea of chaos or the abyss or something like that near the beginning.

  131. Yeah, the watery chaos or the giant, you know, maelstrom of Gnungagap,

  132. which is just a fun word to say.

  133. I'm not even sure I'm saying it right, but it's fun the way I'm saying it.

  134. Yeah, I think these are all correct things to see in this difference.

  135. For one, I think the lack of conflict.

  136. There's no other element.

  137. There's no other being that is vying with God for control,

  138. vying for God with God for creation, for supremacy.

  139. It's God.

  140. In the beginning, God.

  141. We also get monotheism, right?

  142. That's one of the ones that kind of jumps out.

  143. I mean, all the other ones, there's multiple gods going on.

  144. You know, there's the earth god and the sky god,

  145. or there's the giant god, I guess.

  146. And then you have, you know, different water gods,

  147. whether that be salt water or fresh water and their progeny.

  148. There's a lot of, like, birthing going on, right?

  149. No, in this account, we don't have any of those.

  150. We have one god.

  151. And I think the most important difference is the first difference that was brought up,

  152. which is God was there before anything else.

  153. God was there before anything else, and he created everything out of nothing.

  154. This is the doctrine we call creation ex nihilo,

  155. and that's what we're going to be talking about today.

  156. This is one of the great doctrines of the church.

  157. But before we get into that,

  158. and this is a doctrine that all Christians agree on,

  159. but I think it's important, since we're using Genesis as our roadmap,

  160. to pause here and talk about a controversy that has to do with these first verses of Genesis.

  161. And that controversy is over whether Genesis 1-1 is actually describing creation ex nihilo.

  162. So there's multiple views out there.

  163. The reason there is this controversy is that, grammatically,

  164. we can take the beginning verses of Genesis in a few different ways.

  165. One of the ways that used to be brought out earlier in time,

  166. maybe I think more commonly in the 19th century,

  167. was the idea that you read it when God created the heavens and the earth,

  168. and you started that way.

  169. But most biblical scholars don't take that reading anymore.

  170. They don't think that's, for reasons I don't understand,

  171. because I don't speak Hebrew,

  172. that's not really much of a viable option.

  173. But there's still two other options that we can use to take Genesis 1.

  174. So the first one is, surprise,

  175. the first one is the way that we have it in the ESV.

  176. We just read it in the beginning,

  177. God created the heavens and the earth,

  178. the earth was out, form and void,

  179. and the narrative continues from there.

  180. Another way of taking the beginning verses

  181. is to see the first verse as sort of a title,

  182. sort of a summary of all that's about to come next.

  183. So we can think of that, reading it would be like,

  184. Genesis 1,

  185. in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

  186. Pause.

  187. The earth was without form and void.

  188. You see how the narrative can start here?

  189. The earth was without form and void,

  190. and darkness was over the face of the deep.

  191. So, these are two different ways we can take

  192. the beginning verses of Genesis.

  193. So how do we,

  194. how do we,

  195. what are some reasons for taking the first

  196. or the second way of reading it?

  197. Well, for the second reading,

  198. I think one of the reasons,

  199. outside of any of the grammatical reasons,

  200. is that there's an,

  201. if we start here,

  202. with the earth being without form and void,

  203. and darkness was over the face of the deep,

  204. we start to see a greater,

  205. a stronger similarity

  206. between this narrative and other narratives

  207. like the Enuma Elish that we started with.

  208. Right?

  209. The starting in a place of disorder,

  210. starting with chaos,

  211. starting with this watery nothingness,

  212. sort of.

  213. You guys see that?

  214. How this,

  215. now if we start here,

  216. we can start to see a closer similarity

  217. to these other creation myths.

  218. And I could have given you other ancient Near Eastern creation myths

  219. from ancient Egypt,

  220. for instance,

  221. or ancient Assyria,

  222. I think.

  223. Yeah.

  224. We,

  225. there's,

  226. there's a few different ones

  227. and they all start sort of,

  228. just kind of like Greek myth and Norse myth

  229. in a place of chaos and disorder.

  230. And the creation myth is about bringing in order.

  231. Right?

  232. And that order is usually brought about by fighting,

  233. fighting or birthing or marrying

  234. or something like that.

  235. Right?

  236. As we,

  237. as we read.

  238. And so if we take this second understanding

  239. of,

  240. of the,

  241. the first verses of Genesis,

  242. then we can,

  243. you see,

  244. we can conceive of this beginning creation account

  245. as sort of a direct frontal attack

  246. on these other creation myths.

  247. Right?

  248. And what will come out of the,

  249. what will come out of understanding

  250. the creation account

  251. in comparison to these other myths

  252. is those things that we talked about.

  253. The fact that there was this lack of conflict in Genesis.

  254. In comparison to these other groups.

  255. That there's an elevation of human dignity.

  256. So for instance,

  257. in the Aniwa Elish,

  258. I didn't go into it because it's very long.

  259. But when it eventually gets to the creation of humans,

  260. humans are like,

  261. they're,

  262. they're like the,

  263. the thing that was created to get the gods out of doing some work.

  264. Basically.

  265. So the gods were,

  266. you know,

  267. they're on the earth,

  268. they're tilling the soil,

  269. they're making food,

  270. and they're like,

  271. oh man,

  272. this is a ton of work.

  273. I thought I was a god.

  274. Why am I doing this work?

  275. Basically.

  276. And then human beings are created like,

  277. hey,

  278. we can make these things,

  279. they can do the work for us,

  280. and then they offer us the food,

  281. and everything's great.

  282. And then they're like,

  283. hey,

  284. great idea,

  285. let's do that.

  286. And then boom.

  287. That's the creation of human beings.

  288. That's what being,

  289. a human being means

  290. in the Babylonian context.

  291. You are born into a life of work and service.

  292. For what end?

  293. Just to get the gods out of some work.

  294. And ultimately,

  295. actually,

  296. humans end up becoming way too loud and annoying.

  297. And then that's why they're flooded.

  298. Because it's really,

  299. they're like,

  300. seriously,

  301. the gods are trying to sleep.

  302. And they're like,

  303. I can't sleep with all this noise down there.

  304. They're just making so many humans,

  305. it's to get rid of all of them,

  306. you know.

  307. So,

  308. obviously,

  309. if we take this second version,

  310. version of the Genesis,

  311. all those,

  312. those differences come to the fore.

  313. Human dignity is so different

  314. in the,

  315. in the Genesis account

  316. than we get in other,

  317. these other accounts.

  318. And we can continue on

  319. in differences,

  320. like the expression is God

  321. as harmonious ruler,

  322. sole ruler over the earth,

  323. over creation.

  324. So that's,

  325. I think,

  326. some of the,

  327. the benefits of that.

  328. And despite,

  329. I think,

  330. a lot of the strength

  331. of these considerations,

  332. I actually believe that

  333. the,

  334. the understanding that we get

  335. in the ESV

  336. and other translations

  337. is probably closer

  338. to the truth.

  339. And that,

  340. indeed,

  341. the implications

  342. from the beginning,

  343. the first chapters of Genesis

  344. are way more radical

  345. and way more different

  346. than the surrounding cultures.

  347. verses.

  348. So some of the reasons

  349. that we can,

  350. we have for taking this,

  351. this first view here

  352. is that in the Hebrew,

  353. actually,

  354. verse two starts with an and.

  355. And so if you imagine

  356. the narrative starting

  357. and the earth was out,

  358. form and void,

  359. it kind of sounds like,

  360. oh,

  361. what?

  362. I thought,

  363. you know,

  364. it's kind of like starting,

  365. boom,

  366. in the middle of the action

  367. and there seems to be

  368. a callback to earlier action.

  369. So that actually gives us

  370. a little more confidence

  371. that this,

  372. in the beginning,

  373. God created the heavens

  374. and the earth

  375. is the first act

  376. in the narrative.

  377. And then the verse two

  378. is actually a continuance

  379. of the narrative.

  380. Now, you know,

  381. I'm not a Hebrew scholar

  382. and so there's very good arguments

  383. both ways on the grammar.

  384. So I don't claim

  385. to be an authority there,

  386. but that seems pretty,

  387. pretty persuasive to me.

  388. And more,

  389. and then secondly,

  390. I think more interestingly

  391. or more decisively

  392. is this view that

  393. if this is a title

  394. of what is about

  395. to follow,

  396. it is kind of strange

  397. that the first verse

  398. starts with the earth

  399. already there.

  400. Right?

  401. So in the beginning,

  402. God created the heavens

  403. and the earth

  404. is what we're about

  405. to experience,

  406. what we're about to see

  407. and it starts with

  408. the earth is already there.

  409. It's kind of like,

  410. oh, well,

  411. what is the earth

  412. if it hasn't been created yet?

  413. Right?

  414. What is the earth?

  415. And if you continue on

  416. and when he starts

  417. talking about the heavens,

  418. before the heavens

  419. are actually fully formed,

  420. they're called the heavens.

  421. And so in one sense,

  422. as we continue on

  423. in the narrative,

  424. narratively,

  425. the earth and the heavens

  426. already exist,

  427. at least in the language

  428. of the passage.

  429. And so that,

  430. again,

  431. I think is other reasons

  432. to take this first view.

  433. Now,

  434. I think another reason

  435. we should consider

  436. the first view

  437. is it seems to be

  438. the way that

  439. the earliest people of God

  440. understood this passage.

  441. As we call back

  442. to Genesis 1,

  443. there seems to be

  444. this insistence

  445. of there being

  446. nothing besides God

  447. in the act of creation.

  448. So if we look at,

  449. for instance,

  450. Isaiah 45, 18,

  451. For thus says the Lord,

  452. who created the heavens,

  453. He is God,

  454. who formed the earth

  455. and made it.

  456. He established it.

  457. He did not create it empty.

  458. He formed it to be inhabited.

  459. I am the Lord

  460. and there is no other.

  461. Right?

  462. So I think if we sit

  463. and we marinate

  464. on that kind of verse,

  465. it does seem to give us

  466. the feeling

  467. that there is nothing else

  468. other than God

  469. when He creates

  470. and He creates

  471. everything as is.

  472. Right?

  473. Another obvious example

  474. in the New Testament

  475. is John 1, 1.

  476. Right?

  477. In the beginning

  478. was the Word

  479. and the Word was with God

  480. and the Word was God.

  481. He was in the beginning

  482. with God.

  483. All things were made

  484. through Him

  485. and without Him

  486. was not anything made

  487. that was made.

  488. Now that is obviously

  489. very clear.

  490. And so,

  491. even those Christians,

  492. believers who take

  493. this second view

  494. would say,

  495. obviously creation

  496. ex nihilo

  497. is the truth

  498. that we affirm

  499. in Scripture.

  500. But I think

  501. if we think about

  502. John 1, 1

  503. as a callback,

  504. as a reference

  505. to Genesis 1,

  506. then that makes it

  507. not only

  508. an expression

  509. of new doctrine

  510. but also

  511. an interpretation

  512. of what it is

  513. Genesis 1

  514. was saying

  515. in the first place.

  516. So whether you're

  517. convinced by

  518. either of those arguments

  519. about creation

  520. ex nihilo

  521. as I,

  522. you know,

  523. whether you think

  524. Genesis 1

  525. is talking about

  526. creation ex nihilo

  527. as I take it

  528. or not,

  529. we can all agree

  530. that actually

  531. this is the teaching

  532. of God's people,

  533. that the doctrine

  534. of creation ex nihilo

  535. is one of the

  536. distinguishing differences

  537. between Christianity

  538. and these other

  539. religious systems,

  540. other ways of thinking

  541. about the world.

  542. So how is that?

  543. What does creation

  544. ex nihilo

  545. do for us?

  546. What are we

  547. to learn from it?

  548. Well, for one,

  549. we should remember

  550. that heaven and earth

  551. is a merism,

  552. meaning it's a phrase

  553. that's supposed

  554. to encompass everything.

  555. So when we say

  556. in the beginning

  557. God created

  558. the heavens

  559. and the earth,

  560. we shouldn't think

  561. of this as

  562. specifically

  563. God created

  564. the sky

  565. and God created

  566. the planet earth.

  567. Heaven and earth

  568. just means

  569. everything, right?

  570. It's like saying

  571. the whole kitten caboodle

  572. or the whole enchilada,

  573. right?

  574. We're not talking

  575. about enchiladas here.

  576. We're talking

  577. about everything, right?

  578. So this is the same

  579. kind of figure of speech.

  580. Heaven and earth,

  581. everything.

  582. So when we confess

  583. that God created

  584. all things from nothing,

  585. everything, everything,

  586. this is actually

  587. a confession of truth

  588. both about God

  589. and about creation.

  590. So how is this?

  591. So let's park here

  592. for what does this

  593. tell us about God?

  594. Well, if everything

  595. that is made,

  596. that is,

  597. if everything that is

  598. was made by God,

  599. then that reveals

  600. that God is the only

  601. independent one.

  602. The only being

  603. without beginning.

  604. You guys see that?

  605. This concept of deity

  606. is radically different

  607. from the other ones

  608. we heard about earlier.

  609. Zeus, Odin, Apsu.

  610. They may be called almighty.

  611. They may be called ultimate.

  612. But they actually just exist

  613. as one part of a larger whole.

  614. They are part of the

  615. eternal cosmos of chaos

  616. or maybe a whirling maelstrom

  617. depending on what flavor

  618. you prefer.

  619. They're just one part

  620. of this larger whole, right?

  621. They don't ground

  622. these realities.

  623. They kind of exert

  624. a power over them

  625. kind of like Superman

  626. on steroids, right?

  627. They can take

  628. this pre-existing material

  629. and they can form it

  630. and they can exert

  631. their will on it

  632. but they don't make it.

  633. They don't ground it.

  634. It doesn't exist

  635. because of them.

  636. How different is this

  637. than the God of the Bible?

  638. When God gives Moses

  639. his personal name,

  640. what does he say?

  641. I am.

  642. Right?

  643. I am.

  644. It gives me chills.

  645. Right?

  646. I am.

  647. I am.

  648. God is not one being

  649. among other beings.

  650. God is being.

  651. God is, is, as Augustine says.

  652. So what is that?

  653. There's not a watery chaos,

  654. an eternal universe.

  655. There's not this unformed

  656. substance alongside him

  657. that he uses.

  658. This is what we learn

  659. when we really stop

  660. and consider the teaching

  661. of creation ex nihilo.

  662. There's only God

  663. and all things

  664. that depend on him

  665. for their existence.

  666. There's basically

  667. only two kinds of things.

  668. God

  669. and creation.

  670. Right?

  671. If you're not God,

  672. you're created.

  673. And that determines

  674. the hierarchy.

  675. Does that make sense?

  676. God is often called

  677. his aseity,

  678. meaning from himself.

  679. This is actually

  680. what Jesus mentions

  681. when he's defending

  682. his unity with the Father

  683. to the Pharisees.

  684. He says,

  685. in John,

  686. I believe,

  687. 5,

  688. I didn't write that down,

  689. actually.

  690. John 5,

  691. for as the Father

  692. has life in himself,

  693. so he has granted

  694. the Son also

  695. to have life

  696. in himself.

  697. God isn't given life.

  698. God doesn't depend

  699. on anything.

  700. God has life

  701. in himself.

  702. Right?

  703. You can see immediately

  704. the radical departure

  705. that is from these other gods.

  706. Aseity is one of those

  707. incommunicable attributes,

  708. we say.

  709. Those aspects of God's essence

  710. that are unique to him.

  711. If you have one of these attributes,

  712. you are God,

  713. by definition.

  714. Right?

  715. If you're from yourself,

  716. you are God.

  717. Right?

  718. And a lot of us

  719. like to think

  720. we're self-made.

  721. We're not self-made like this.

  722. Right?

  723. I think there's kind of

  724. a funny story, right?

  725. I think it's a joke,

  726. actually,

  727. but it's a story

  728. about a scientist,

  729. this very brash

  730. and confident scientist.

  731. He says,

  732. God,

  733. I can create

  734. everything that you created

  735. out of this mud right here.

  736. And God says,

  737. okay, go ahead.

  738. Do it.

  739. And so the scientist says,

  740. okay.

  741. He starts working with the mud

  742. and God says,

  743. oh,

  744. well,

  745. make your own mud.

  746. Right?

  747. There's all this stuff

  748. that we just take for granted

  749. as just existing

  750. that we think,

  751. oh, yeah,

  752. the laws of physics.

  753. Right?

  754. A lot of times

  755. you'll hear of people

  756. talking about,

  757. well,

  758. if we have a quantum vacuum

  759. and we have quantum fluctuations,

  760. then something actually

  761. can come out of nothing.

  762. Right?

  763. But this just misses the point.

  764. This is sort of obtuse

  765. because there isn't nothing.

  766. There are quantum laws.

  767. Right?

  768. You see that?

  769. There are laws of physics

  770. that are operative.

  771. So those things

  772. need to be explained.

  773. It's not about

  774. the existence

  775. of material things as such.

  776. It's the existence

  777. of anything.

  778. It's existence.

  779. Period.

  780. Full stop.

  781. That we're trying to explain here.

  782. Right?

  783. Another thing

  784. that we get from Ex nihilo,

  785. another of his

  786. incommunicable attributes,

  787. is God's immutability.

  788. God's not growing.

  789. Being born from the salt

  790. like the Aesir.

  791. I love that view.

  792. And that's one of the reasons

  793. I shared it.

  794. I love the view

  795. of a cosmic cow

  796. licking the ice

  797. and a guy just coming out of it.

  798. In the Duler Book of Myths,

  799. there's actually

  800. a really great picture

  801. where the cow

  802. is like licking

  803. and it's like

  804. you can start

  805. seeing the hair

  806. coming from the thing

  807. like a cow lick

  808. in your hair, right?

  809. But God's not growing.

  810. God's not developing.

  811. He's not reaching

  812. or striving.

  813. God is perfect.

  814. And therefore,

  815. there's no need

  816. for God to change.

  817. Like his aseity,

  818. God's immutability

  819. is revealed

  820. in his being

  821. the only one

  822. to not have a beginning.

  823. So let's look at

  824. Psalm 92.

  825. where it says,

  826. Before the mountains

  827. were brought forth,

  828. or ever you had formed

  829. the earth

  830. and the world

  831. from everlasting

  832. to everlasting,

  833. you are God.

  834. When we apply this

  835. to the aspect of time,

  836. God's immutability,

  837. we arrive at God's

  838. eternity.

  839. He's the only beginning

  840. that was always.

  841. Right?

  842. Revelations 1.8

  843. I am the Alpha

  844. and the Omega,

  845. says the Lord God,

  846. who is

  847. and who was

  848. and who is

  849. to come,

  850. the Almighty.

  851. There wasn't a time

  852. where God was not.

  853. There wasn't a time

  854. when God needed

  855. to change

  856. or to grow.

  857. He didn't need

  858. to take on humanity

  859. to learn

  860. what it was really like.

  861. Does it make sense?

  862. Sometimes we talk

  863. like this.

  864. Like God needed something.

  865. Like he needs us.

  866. Does God need us?

  867. I hope not.

  868. Because I'm not

  869. going to be any help.

  870. And we could go on.

  871. There's so many things

  872. we can draw

  873. about God

  874. from creation

  875. ex nihilo.

  876. His unity,

  877. God's infinity,

  878. his simplicity.

  879. All of these attributes

  880. are attempts

  881. to articulate

  882. this radical transcendence

  883. that we have

  884. in the Creator.

  885. He's beyond all things

  886. for he made all things

  887. and there's no one

  888. like him.

  889. That's, I think,

  890. the title,

  891. should be the title

  892. of what we learn

  893. from creation

  894. ex nihilo

  895. is that there is

  896. no one like him.

  897. So,

  898. that's God.

  899. We're finished with God.

  900. You know?

  901. No, we're not.

  902. So,

  903. but what do we learn

  904. about God?

  905. What do we learn

  906. about creation

  907. from the doctrine

  908. of creation

  909. ex nihilo?

  910. Well,

  911. if God,

  912. if discussing

  913. God's transcendence

  914. is leaving you

  915. feeling cold,

  916. making you think

  917. if God's so distinct

  918. from his creation,

  919. if he's so different,

  920. if he's so beyond,

  921. if he doesn't need,

  922. how can we say that

  923. he's with us?

  924. Right?

  925. On the contrary,

  926. this view makes God

  927. closer

  928. than you can even imagine.

  929. If all things

  930. depend on God

  931. for their existence,

  932. then that means

  933. that we have

  934. derivative existence.

  935. Right?

  936. If God is being,

  937. that anything

  938. that exists

  939. is sort of

  940. relying on God's being

  941. to exist.

  942. Are we getting that?

  943. So,

  944. this is all to say

  945. we don't exist

  946. autonomously.

  947. I heard a

  948. great analogy

  949. where it's like,

  950. you know,

  951. before we're born,

  952. we rely on this

  953. umbilical cord

  954. to exist.

  955. Right?

  956. We as human beings

  957. we're kind of

  958. attached to our mothers

  959. where we receive

  960. this existence.

  961. We receive

  962. our nourishment.

  963. And sort of like

  964. invisible umbilical cords.

  965. We all walk around.

  966. Everything walks around

  967. connected to God,

  968. relying on God

  969. for its existence.

  970. Right?

  971. So,

  972. we don't exist

  973. autonomously.

  974. we actually must

  975. participate in

  976. God's being

  977. to be.

  978. And so,

  979. it's incorrect

  980. to think of our

  981. existence as the

  982. result of blind

  983. forces like

  984. electromagnetism

  985. or the weak

  986. nuclear force

  987. or gravity.

  988. You know?

  989. This is like,

  990. these are the things

  991. that we usually

  992. think about when we

  993. think about

  994. like the bare

  995. bones of existence

  996. like these

  997. laws,

  998. these things

  999. controlling how

  1000. atoms relate to

  1001. each other

  1002. or how atoms

  1003. are formed.

  1004. And surely,

  1005. these forces

  1006. have their place

  1007. in explaining

  1008. a host of

  1009. different phenomena

  1010. that we observe.

  1011. But no,

  1012. ultimately,

  1013. it is the personal

  1014. triune God

  1015. of Scripture

  1016. who is love,

  1017. who is also

  1018. the ground

  1019. and sustainer

  1020. of our very being.

  1021. Or as Paul quotes

  1022. Epimenides in Acts 17,

  1023. in Him,

  1024. we live and move

  1025. and have our being.

  1026. Speaking of Jesus

  1027. as the logos

  1028. of creation

  1029. in Colossians 1,

  1030. 15-17,

  1031. Paul says that

  1032. He is the image

  1033. of the invisible God,

  1034. the firstborn

  1035. of all creation.

  1036. For by Him

  1037. all things were created

  1038. in heaven and on earth,

  1039. visible and invisible,

  1040. whether thrones

  1041. or dominions

  1042. or rulers

  1043. or authorities.

  1044. All things were created

  1045. through Him

  1046. and for Him

  1047. and He is before

  1048. all things

  1049. and in Him

  1050. all things hold together.

  1051. So far from

  1052. separating us from God,

  1053. the fact that

  1054. we are contingent,

  1055. that we are dependent

  1056. is actually

  1057. described in Scripture

  1058. God being our source

  1059. as our being

  1060. in Him.

  1061. We are not

  1062. separated from God.

  1063. We are in God.

  1064. Every moment,

  1065. second by second,

  1066. God sustains us.

  1067. We are connected

  1068. to Him.

  1069. This is one of the reasons

  1070. why sin is so heinous.

  1071. Right?

  1072. So,

  1073. if we conceive of sin

  1074. as rejection of God,

  1075. a turning away from Him,

  1076. it's actually

  1077. a rejection of life

  1078. and being itself.

  1079. Now,

  1080. this is actually

  1081. one of the reasons

  1082. philosophically

  1083. that we,

  1084. that the view

  1085. of sin

  1086. as privation

  1087. emerges in the church.

  1088. Right?

  1089. Sin is non-being.

  1090. Anyways,

  1091. we don't need to go

  1092. into that.

  1093. Unless you really want to.

  1094. Because I would love

  1095. to talk about that.

  1096. But,

  1097. yeah.

  1098. But more importantly,

  1099. actually,

  1100. it's so heinous,

  1101. sin is so heinous,

  1102. because

  1103. in rejecting God,

  1104. we actually have to

  1105. use the gift

  1106. of God's

  1107. sustaining work

  1108. in creation

  1109. to reject Him.

  1110. we stand

  1111. on top of God

  1112. on the limb

  1113. of God's

  1114. sustaining grace

  1115. and we start

  1116. cutting on the limb

  1117. saying,

  1118. I don't need you.

  1119. I reject you.

  1120. So,

  1121. this is the,

  1122. constitutes the most

  1123. severe form

  1124. of ingratitude.

  1125. As Paul says

  1126. in Romans 1,

  1127. for the wrath

  1128. of God

  1129. is revealed

  1130. from heaven

  1131. against all

  1132. ungodliness

  1133. and unrighteousness

  1134. of men

  1135. who by their

  1136. unrighteousness

  1137. suppress the truth.

  1138. For what can be known

  1139. about God

  1140. is plain to them

  1141. because God

  1142. has shown it to them.

  1143. For His invisible

  1144. attributes,

  1145. namely,

  1146. His eternal power

  1147. and divine nature

  1148. have been clearly

  1149. perceived

  1150. ever since the

  1151. creation of the world

  1152. in the things

  1153. that have been made.

  1154. So they are

  1155. without excuse.

  1156. For although

  1157. they knew God,

  1158. they did not

  1159. honor Him

  1160. as God

  1161. or give thanks to Him.

  1162. For they became

  1163. futile in their thinking

  1164. and their foolish

  1165. hearts were darkened.

  1166. Claiming to be wise,

  1167. they became fools

  1168. and exchanged

  1169. the glory of the

  1170. immortal God

  1171. for images

  1172. resembling mortal

  1173. man and birds

  1174. and animals

  1175. and creeping things.

  1176. You see how

  1177. by

  1178. sitting

  1179. and really

  1180. thinking about

  1181. what does it mean

  1182. for God

  1183. to be creator?

  1184. For God

  1185. to make everything

  1186. apart from Himself

  1187. and the fact

  1188. that we rely on God,

  1189. we're sustained

  1190. by God.

  1191. You can see how

  1192. silly

  1193. idolatry becomes.

  1194. we take

  1195. these things

  1196. that these other

  1197. created things

  1198. that we see

  1199. and we fashion

  1200. them and we

  1201. worship them

  1202. and how silly

  1203. it is when

  1204. those very things

  1205. rely on God

  1206. for their existence.

  1207. Right?

  1208. So thanks be to God

  1209. that He does not

  1210. reject us

  1211. in turn,

  1212. obviously,

  1213. but continues

  1214. in His mercy

  1215. to sustain us.

  1216. Right?

  1217. Right?

  1218. And,

  1219. not only that,

  1220. He entered

  1221. into contingency

  1222. by taking on

  1223. human nature

  1224. and then

  1225. even works

  1226. with the Holy Spirit

  1227. to reunite us

  1228. to Himself.

  1229. So sin is us

  1230. turning away

  1231. from God,

  1232. rejecting

  1233. being,

  1234. existence,

  1235. life,

  1236. goodness,

  1237. love,

  1238. everything that God is.

  1239. If we consider

  1240. sin as that thing,

  1241. then,

  1242. through Jesus

  1243. and the Holy Spirit,

  1244. we are brought

  1245. back to God,

  1246. back to being,

  1247. back to existence.

  1248. I like how

  1249. Herman Baving

  1250. puts it.

  1251. He says,

  1252. the doctrine of creation,

  1253. affirming the distinction

  1254. between the Creator

  1255. and His creature,

  1256. is the starting point

  1257. of true religion.

  1258. There is no existence

  1259. apart from God

  1260. and the Creator

  1261. can only be known

  1262. truly through revelation.

  1263. This creation

  1264. is properly said

  1265. to be ex nihilo,

  1266. out of nothing,

  1267. thus preserving

  1268. the distinction

  1269. in essence

  1270. between the

  1271. Creator and the world

  1272. and the contingency

  1273. of the world

  1274. and its dependence

  1275. on God.

  1276. The Son is the Logos

  1277. by whom the Father

  1278. creates all things.

  1279. And so here's

  1280. the interesting thing.

  1281. The whole world

  1282. is a realization

  1283. of an idea of God.

  1284. The creation proceeds

  1285. from the Father

  1286. through the Son

  1287. and in the Spirit

  1288. so that

  1289. in the Spirit

  1290. and through the Son

  1291. it may return

  1292. to the Father.

  1293. You see that?

  1294. Now, this actually

  1295. is referencing

  1296. that aspect of creation

  1297. whereas Jesus

  1298. as the Son,

  1299. God the Son

  1300. is the Logo,

  1301. sort of the

  1302. creating principle,

  1303. right?

  1304. The logic,

  1305. the thing that forms.

  1306. And so,

  1307. in some earlier Christians

  1308. like Augustine,

  1309. we find

  1310. he said

  1311. he likes to imagine

  1312. creation,

  1313. which as we all know

  1314. in the Trinity

  1315. is interpenetrating.

  1316. We can't really distinguish

  1317. fully all the acts

  1318. of God

  1319. into,

  1320. oh, that was the Father

  1321. but not the Son

  1322. and the Spirit, right?

  1323. We don't want to do that,

  1324. right?

  1325. But,

  1326. Augustine likes to

  1327. think of the Trinity's

  1328. separate activities

  1329. in the act of creation.

  1330. I shouldn't say

  1331. separate activities.

  1332. This is probably

  1333. a better word.

  1334. But as you can see,

  1335. as we talk about God,

  1336. our words start to fail,

  1337. right?

  1338. He likes to say

  1339. that God the Father

  1340. creates

  1341. like bare matter.

  1342. And then

  1343. God the Son

  1344. provides form

  1345. to that matter

  1346. and it is God the Spirit

  1347. that

  1348. actually

  1349. actuates it,

  1350. right?

  1351. So the way he imagines it

  1352. as we go through Genesis,

  1353. we're going to see

  1354. in the early chapters

  1355. God says

  1356. let there be

  1357. and that is

  1358. thought to be

  1359. God the Father

  1360. using the word

  1361. God the Son

  1362. to say let there be

  1363. and the Spirit saying

  1364. and there was.

  1365. Right?

  1366. So

  1367. it's a beautiful,

  1368. beautiful way

  1369. of thinking about

  1370. our creation.

  1371. And so

  1372. to finish up,

  1373. I was going to go

  1374. on this long tangent

  1375. about what it means

  1376. to glorify God.

  1377. I was going to use

  1378. a lot of words

  1379. and stuff

  1380. and then I started

  1381. writing it

  1382. and then I thought

  1383. what am I doing?

  1384. I can't write this

  1385. better than Scripture.

  1386. So

  1387. anybody have their

  1388. Bible here

  1389. wants to read

  1390. a significant

  1391. portion of Scripture?

  1392. Yeah.

  1393. Yeah?

  1394. Yeah.

  1395. Alright,

  1396. I got

  1397. Isaiah 46

  1398. if you do not mind.

  1399. Isaiah 46?

  1400. Yeah,

  1401. and as we read this

  1402. I want you guys

  1403. to think

  1404. about the things

  1405. that we've talked about.

  1406. God is ultimate.

  1407. God is the one God,

  1408. the true God.

  1409. The insanity

  1410. of idolatry

  1411. and how God

  1412. being the one creator

  1413. actually brings us

  1414. closer to him.

  1415. Allows God

  1416. to be the thing

  1417. that can save us

  1418. and bring us

  1419. back to himself.

  1420. Sorry,

  1421. go ahead.

  1422. Isaiah 46,

  1423. what?

  1424. Just the whole chapter.

  1425. Okay.

  1426. Okay.

  1427. Bel boweth down,

  1428. nebo,

  1429. stupid,

  1430. stupid.

  1431. Their idols

  1432. were upon the beast

  1433. and upon the cattle.

  1434. Their carriages

  1435. were heavy laden.

  1436. They are a burden.

  1437. They are a burden

  1438. to the weary beast.

  1439. They stoke.

  1440. They bow down together.

  1441. They could not

  1442. deliver the burden

  1443. but themselves

  1444. are gone into captivity.

  1445. Hearken unto me,

  1446. O house of Jacob

  1447. and all the remnant

  1448. of the house of Israel

  1449. which are born

  1450. by me

  1451. from the belly

  1452. which are carried

  1453. from the womb.

  1454. And even to your old age

  1455. I am key

  1456. and even

  1457. to whore hairs

  1458. will I carry you.

  1459. I have made

  1460. and I will bear

  1461. even I will carry

  1462. and will deliver you.

  1463. To whom will you liken me

  1464. and make me equal?

  1465. Compare me

  1466. that we may be alike.

  1467. They lavish gold

  1468. out of the bag

  1469. and weigh silver

  1470. in the balance

  1471. and hire a goldsmith

  1472. and he maketh it

  1473. a god.

  1474. They fall down.

  1475. Yea,

  1476. they worship.

  1477. They bear him up

  1478. upon the shoulder.

  1479. They carry him

  1480. and set him in place

  1481. and he standeth.

  1482. From his place

  1483. he shall not be removed.

  1484. Yea,

  1485. one shall cry unto him

  1486. yet can he not answer

  1487. nor save him

  1488. out of this trouble.

  1489. Remember this

  1490. and show yourselves men.

  1491. Bring it again to mind

  1492. for you transgressors.

  1493. Remember the former things

  1494. of old

  1495. for I am God

  1496. and there is none else.

  1497. I am God

  1498. and there is none

  1499. like me.

  1500. Declaring the end

  1501. from the beginning

  1502. and from the ancient times

  1503. the things

  1504. that are not yet done

  1505. saying

  1506. my counsel

  1507. shall stand

  1508. and I will do

  1509. all my pleasure.

  1510. Calling

  1511. a ravenous bird

  1512. from the east

  1513. the man that

  1514. executed my counsel

  1515. from a far country.

  1516. Yea,

  1517. I have spoken it.

  1518. I will also bring it to pass.

  1519. I have purposed it.

  1520. I will also do it.

  1521. Hearken unto me

  1522. ye stephearted

  1523. that are far

  1524. from righteousness.

  1525. I bring near

  1526. my righteousness.

  1527. I shall not be

  1528. far off

  1529. and my salvation

  1530. shall not carry.

  1531. I will place salvation

  1532. in Zion

  1533. for Israel.

  1534. Glory.

  1535. Magnificent.

  1536. worth

  1537. 10,000 of my words.

  1538. I love this image

  1539. in the beginning.

  1540. They are taking Nebo

  1541. and they are taking Bel

  1542. and they are loading

  1543. him onto these donkeys

  1544. and the donkeys

  1545. are like

  1546. under the weight

  1547. of them as they go along.

  1548. And they can't even

  1549. get him all the way there.

  1550. They fail

  1551. in their attempts

  1552. to carry God

  1553. on their backs.

  1554. Right?

  1555. But what does God say?

  1556. I have born you

  1557. these other people

  1558. they are bearing

  1559. their gods

  1560. I bore you

  1561. from the womb.

  1562. Even to your old age

  1563. I am carrying you.

  1564. You guys see that?

  1565. See the contrast there

  1566. that we get?

  1567. And also that God

  1568. is not far off.

  1569. Right?

  1570. There is no one

  1571. like God

  1572. and that means

  1573. God is near.

  1574. Not far.

  1575. Alright.

  1576. Somebody else.

  1577. Who wants to read

  1578. Psalm 86?

  1579. You want to read it?

  1580. Go ahead Laura.

  1581. Incline your ear

  1582. O Lord

  1583. and answer me

  1584. for I am

  1585. poor and needy.

  1586. Preserve my life

  1587. for I am godly.

  1588. Save your servant

  1589. and trust in you.

  1590. You are my God.

  1591. Be gracious to me

  1592. O Lord

  1593. for to you

  1594. do I cry

  1595. all the day.

  1596. Gladen the soul

  1597. of your servant

  1598. for to you

  1599. O Lord

  1600. do I lift up

  1601. my soul.

  1602. For you

  1603. O Lord

  1604. are good

  1605. and forgiving.

  1606. Abounding

  1607. and steadfast love

  1608. to all who

  1609. call upon you.

  1610. Give ear

  1611. O Lord

  1612. to my prayer.

  1613. Listen to my plea

  1614. for grace.

  1615. In the day

  1616. of my trouble

  1617. I call upon you

  1618. and you answer me.

  1619. There is none

  1620. like you

  1621. among the gods

  1622. O Lord

  1623. nor are there

  1624. any works

  1625. like yours.

  1626. All the nations

  1627. you have made

  1628. shall come

  1629. and worship

  1630. before you

  1631. O Lord

  1632. and shall

  1633. glorify your name.

  1634. For you are great

  1635. and wonderful things.

  1636. You alone

  1637. are God.

  1638. Teach me your way

  1639. O Lord

  1640. that I may walk

  1641. in your truth.

  1642. Unite my heart

  1643. to fear your name.

  1644. I give thanks to you

  1645. O Lord

  1646. my God

  1647. with my whole heart

  1648. and I will glorify

  1649. your name forever.

  1650. For great is your

  1651. steadfast love

  1652. toward me.

  1653. You have delivered

  1654. my soul

  1655. from the death

  1656. of your soul.

  1657. O God

  1658. insolent men

  1659. have risen up

  1660. against me.

  1661. A band of

  1662. ruthless men

  1663. seeks my life

  1664. and they do not

  1665. set you

  1666. before them.

  1667. But you

  1668. O Lord

  1669. are a God

  1670. merciful

  1671. and gracious

  1672. slow to anger

  1673. and abounding

  1674. in steadfast love

  1675. and faithfulness.

  1676. Turn to me

  1677. and be gracious

  1678. to me.

  1679. Give your strength

  1680. to your servant

  1681. and save the son

  1682. of your maidservant.

  1683. Show me a sign

  1684. of your favor

  1685. that those who hate me

  1686. may see

  1687. and be put to shame

  1688. because you

  1689. Lord

  1690. have helped me

  1691. and comfort me.

  1692. Beautiful.

  1693. Beautiful.

  1694. Right?

  1695. We're needy.

  1696. We call on God.

  1697. We need God.

  1698. And because God

  1699. there are

  1700. because there's no one

  1701. like God

  1702. that exists

  1703. God is uniquely

  1704. placed

  1705. to answer

  1706. our

  1707. requests.

  1708. Right?

  1709. Even to need God

  1710. you've got to

  1711. presuppose a God.

  1712. Exactly.

  1713. Right.

  1714. It's beautiful.

  1715. So,

  1716. you know what?

  1717. I'm impressed

  1718. about this psalm

  1719. and really

  1720. a number of others

  1721. too.

  1722. So,

  1723. in this psalm

  1724. he makes sure

  1725. that his hearers

  1726. or readers

  1727. know

  1728. how tough

  1729. the situation

  1730. he is

  1731. is.

  1732. And yet,

  1733. unlike me,

  1734. he does

  1735. in his misery

  1736. raise his eyes

  1737. above his misery

  1738. and see

  1739. the greatness

  1740. and the

  1741. sovereignty

  1742. of God

  1743. the

  1744. power

  1745. of God

  1746. to deal

  1747. with

  1748. his situation.

  1749. Yeah.

  1750. Yeah.

  1751. Right?

  1752. Only

  1753. the creator God

  1754. only the God

  1755. who actually

  1756. is power

  1757. and being

  1758. and love

  1759. can actually

  1760. help us

  1761. in our time

  1762. of need.

  1763. Right?

  1764. And beyond that

  1765. not just God's

  1766. power but we

  1767. can trust God.

  1768. Right?

  1769. This is the

  1770. triune God

  1771. of scripture.

  1772. Right?

  1773. Our redeemer

  1774. our friend.

  1775. You know?

  1776. Talk about friends

  1777. in high places,

  1778. right?

  1779. All right.

  1780. Let me finish

  1781. with what I think

  1782. is really

  1783. the exclamation

  1784. point.

  1785. It's a little

  1786. long but I

  1787. think it's

  1788. just so worth

  1789. reading.

  1790. This is Isaiah

  1791. 40.

  1792. He says,

  1793. comfort,

  1794. comfort,

  1795. comfort my people

  1796. says your God.

  1797. Speak tenderly

  1798. to Jerusalem

  1799. and cry to her

  1800. that her warfare

  1801. is ended,

  1802. that her iniquity

  1803. is pardoned,

  1804. that she is received

  1805. from the Lord's hand

  1806. double for all her sins.

  1807. A voice cries,

  1808. in the wilderness

  1809. prepare the way

  1810. of the Lord.

  1811. Make straight in the desert

  1812. a highway for our God.

  1813. Every valley

  1814. shall be lifted up

  1815. and every mountain

  1816. and hill

  1817. be made low.

  1818. The uneven ground

  1819. shall become level

  1820. and the rough places

  1821. a plain.

  1822. And the glory of the Lord

  1823. shall be revealed

  1824. and all flesh

  1825. shall see it together

  1826. for the mouth

  1827. of the Lord

  1828. is spoken.

  1829. A voice says,

  1830. cry,

  1831. and I say,

  1832. what shall I cry?

  1833. All flesh is grass

  1834. and all its beauty

  1835. is like the flower

  1836. of the field.

  1837. The grass withers,

  1838. the flower fades

  1839. when the breath

  1840. of the Lord

  1841. blows on it.

  1842. Surely the people

  1843. are grass.

  1844. The grass withers,

  1845. the flower fades,

  1846. but the word of our God

  1847. will stand forever.

  1848. Go on up

  1849. to a high mountain,

  1850. O Zion,

  1851. herald of good news.

  1852. Lift up your voice

  1853. with strength,

  1854. O Jerusalem,

  1855. herald of good news.

  1856. Lift it up,

  1857. fear not.

  1858. Say to the cities

  1859. of Judah,

  1860. behold your God.

  1861. Behold the Lord

  1862. comes with might

  1863. and His arm

  1864. rules for Him.

  1865. Behold His reward

  1866. is with Him

  1867. and His recompense

  1868. before Him.

  1869. He will tend

  1870. His flock

  1871. like a shepherd.

  1872. He will gather

  1873. the lambs

  1874. in His arms.

  1875. He will carry

  1876. them in His bosom

  1877. and gently lead

  1878. those that are

  1879. with young.

  1880. Who has measured

  1881. the waters

  1882. in the hollow

  1883. of His hand

  1884. and marked off

  1885. the heavens

  1886. with a span,

  1887. enclosed the dust

  1888. of the earth

  1889. in a measure

  1890. and weighed

  1891. the mountains

  1892. in scales

  1893. and the hills

  1894. in a balance?

  1895. Who has measured

  1896. the Spirit

  1897. of the Lord

  1898. or what man

  1899. shows Him

  1900. His counsel?

  1901. Whom did He

  1902. consult

  1903. and whom

  1904. made Him

  1905. understand?

  1906. Who taught Him

  1907. the path of justice

  1908. and taught Him

  1909. knowledge and showed Him

  1910. the way of understanding?

  1911. Behold,

  1912. the nations are like

  1913. a drop from a bucket

  1914. and are accounted

  1915. as the dust

  1916. on the scales.

  1917. Behold,

  1918. He takes up

  1919. the coastlands

  1920. like fine dust.

  1921. Lebanon

  1922. would not suffice

  1923. for fuel,

  1924. nor is its beast

  1925. enough for a burnt offering.

  1926. All the nations

  1927. are as nothing

  1928. before Him.

  1929. They are counted

  1930. by Him

  1931. as less than nothing

  1932. in emptiness.

  1933. To whom then

  1934. will you liken God?

  1935. Or what likeness

  1936. can pair with Him?

  1937. An idol.

  1938. A craftsman casts it

  1939. and a goldsmith

  1940. overlays it with gold

  1941. and casts for it

  1942. silver chains.

  1943. He who is too

  1944. impoverished for an offering

  1945. chooses wood

  1946. that will not rot.

  1947. He seeks out

  1948. a skillful craftsman

  1949. to set up an idol

  1950. that will not move.

  1951. Do you not know?

  1952. Do you not hear?

  1953. Has it not been told

  1954. you from the beginning?

  1955. Have you not understood

  1956. from the foundations

  1957. of the earth?

  1958. It is He

  1959. who sits above

  1960. the circle of the earth

  1961. and its inhabitants

  1962. are like grasshoppers,

  1963. who stretches out

  1964. the heavens

  1965. like a curtain

  1966. and spreads them

  1967. like a tent

  1968. to dwell in,

  1969. who brings princes

  1970. to nothing

  1971. and makes the rulers

  1972. of the earth

  1973. as emptiness.

  1974. Scarcely are they

  1975. planted,

  1976. scarcely sown,

  1977. scarcely has their stem

  1978. taken root in the earth

  1979. when He blows on them

  1980. and they wither

  1981. and the tempest

  1982. carries them off

  1983. like stubble.

  1984. To whom then

  1985. will you compare me

  1986. that I should be

  1987. like Him,

  1988. says the Holy One.

  1989. Lift up your eyes

  1990. on I and see

  1991. who created these.

  1992. He who brings out

  1993. their host by number

  1994. calling them all by name

  1995. by the greatness

  1996. of His might

  1997. and because He is

  1998. strong in power

  1999. not one is missing.

  2000. Why do you say,

  2001. O Jacob,

  2002. and speak, O Israel?

  2003. My way is hidden

  2004. from the Lord

  2005. and my right

  2006. is disregarded

  2007. by my God.

  2008. Have you not known?

  2009. Have you not heard?

  2010. The Lord is the everlasting God,

  2011. the Creator

  2012. of the ends of the earth.

  2013. He does not faint

  2014. or grow weary.

  2015. His understanding

  2016. is unsearchable.

  2017. He gives power

  2018. to the faint

  2019. and to him

  2020. who has no might

  2021. he increases strength.

  2022. Even youth

  2023. shall faint

  2024. and be weary

  2025. and young men

  2026. shall fall exhausted.

  2027. But they who wait

  2028. for the Lord

  2029. shall renew their strength.

  2030. They shall mount up

  2031. with wings like eagles.

  2032. They shall run

  2033. and not be weary.

  2034. They shall walk

  2035. and not faint.

  2036. This is the God

  2037. we worship.

  2038. You see all those

  2039. different aspects?

  2040. God is absolute,

  2041. almighty,

  2042. separate.

  2043. None is like him.

  2044. But God is also

  2045. the one who sustains.

  2046. He carries us

  2047. like lamb.

  2048. He's slow

  2049. with those

  2050. who have child.

  2051. And ultimately

  2052. it is God

  2053. who raises us up

  2054. on wings like eagles.

  2055. This is the God

  2056. we worship.

  2057. This is the Creator

  2058. who brings everything

  2059. out of nothing.

  2060. Alright,

  2061. that's it guys.

  2062. Any questions?

  2063. We have like five minutes

  2064. before we should go

  2065. downstairs and respond

  2066. appropriately with worship.

  2067. Yeah,

  2068. Lerami.

  2069. It seems to me

  2070. that the prevailing

  2071. version of the

  2072. creation story

  2073. in the Old Testament

  2074. is this one.

  2075. It is constantly

  2076. referenced

  2077. in the Psalms

  2078. and the prophets.

  2079. There is also

  2080. a version

  2081. that is

  2082. less referenced

  2083. but is present

  2084. especially

  2085. in some passages

  2086. like Psalm

  2087. 74,

  2088. I think.

  2089. which is a more

  2090. conflict heavy

  2091. version

  2092. of the

  2093. creation story.

  2094. So,

  2095. could it be that

  2096. depending on

  2097. the different

  2098. theological

  2099. emphasis

  2100. that the author

  2101. is trying to make

  2102. he references

  2103. these two different

  2104. traditions

  2105. of the same story

  2106. the more

  2107. conflict heavy

  2108. tradition

  2109. where God

  2110. actually slains

  2111. the

  2112. serpent

  2113. and the serpent

  2114. creates everything

  2115. and liberates

  2116. his people

  2117. for example

  2118. and the version

  2119. where God

  2120. actually just

  2121. uses his word

  2122. to shape

  2123. everything.

  2124. Yeah,

  2125. I think that's

  2126. a great point.

  2127. I think we have

  2128. to be careful

  2129. of the context

  2130. here,

  2131. right?

  2132. So,

  2133. we think in

  2134. Genesis 1

  2135. we're receiving

  2136. the creation

  2137. account

  2138. in the

  2139. narrative

  2140. of the history

  2141. of all of

  2142. humanity

  2143. and then God's

  2144. people

  2145. so it's

  2146. sort of

  2147. the start

  2148. of the big

  2149. picture,

  2150. the big story

  2151. and we do

  2152. have other

  2153. accounts

  2154. where it

  2155. talks about

  2156. God

  2157. slaying

  2158. Rahab

  2159. or is it

  2160. Leviathan?

  2161. Slaying

  2162. these are

  2163. like pictures,

  2164. these are

  2165. symbols for

  2166. chaotic water,

  2167. that chaotic

  2168. water spirit

  2169. or water gods

  2170. that we talked

  2171. about,

  2172. some of these

  2173. other myths,

  2174. right?

  2175. I think

  2176. really,

  2177. so I think

  2178. it depends

  2179. on what the

  2180. point of the

  2181. passage is.

  2182. So,

  2183. I think

  2184. the point

  2185. of the

  2186. passages

  2187. like we

  2188. get in

  2189. Psalm 74

  2190. where it's

  2191. talking about

  2192. this conflict,

  2193. I don't think

  2194. it's necessarily

  2195. reflecting on

  2196. what creation

  2197. is like,

  2198. but more

  2199. like you

  2200. saying

  2201. Baal

  2202. is the

  2203. one who

  2204. slew this

  2205. person

  2206. and is the

  2207. one who

  2208. set up

  2209. this thing,

  2210. but it's

  2211. not Baal,

  2212. it's God.

  2213. God is the

  2214. one who

  2215. does these

  2216. things,

  2217. right?

  2218. And I

  2219. think we

  2220. can use

  2221. poetic

  2222. language to

  2223. discuss the

  2224. idea of

  2225. God taking

  2226. what could

  2227. be unformed

  2228. chaos and

  2229. forming it

  2230. into order

  2231. and structure,

  2232. right?

  2233. So,

  2234. for instance,

  2235. I think in

  2236. other passages

  2237. it talks about

  2238. the Israelites

  2239. crossing the

  2240. Red Sea as

  2241. God slaying

  2242. the water

  2243. spirit,

  2244. Rahab,

  2245. right?

  2246. And so,

  2247. I think we

  2248. can take

  2249. different passages

  2250. in the way

  2251. that they're

  2252. meant to be

  2253. taken,

  2254. so I

  2255. think probably

  2256. accounts like

  2257. in Exodus

  2258. or in Genesis

  2259. are meant to

  2260. be taken in

  2261. more of a

  2262. historical lens,

  2263. and these

  2264. other passages

  2265. are more

  2266. poetic riffs

  2267. on this

  2268. larger tradition.

  2269. Does that

  2270. make sense?

  2271. Yeah.

  2272. But I

  2273. think,

  2274. yeah,

  2275. there are

  2276. certainly,

  2277. you read

  2278. Job too,

  2279. I'm reading

  2280. Job right now,

  2281. you read

  2282. Job too,

  2283. there's all

  2284. kinds of

  2285. references to

  2286. God slaying

  2287. the

  2288. the serpents,

  2289. and these

  2290. are often

  2291. like images

  2292. of chaos

  2293. and unformed

  2294. water,

  2295. stuff like

  2296. that.

  2297. Yeah,

  2298. exactly.

  2299. Yeah?

  2300. So,

  2301. I like

  2302. that you

  2303. bring up

  2304. the different

  2305. pathologies

  2306. that the

  2307. Babylonian

  2308. and the

  2309. I wish.

  2310. I have

  2311. to think

  2312. that a lot

  2313. of our

  2314. kind of

  2315. modern

  2316. pathologies

  2317. are very

  2318. similar

  2319. to the

  2320. Babylonian

  2321. story.

  2322. I guess

  2323. I'm curious,

  2324. as you said,

  2325. you're a

  2326. scientist.

  2327. Yeah.

  2328. Technically.

  2329. At a broad

  2330. level,

  2331. do you see

  2332. your interest

  2333. in science

  2334. interacting

  2335. with the

  2336. idea of

  2337. creation?

  2338. Oh,

  2339. yeah,

  2340. certainly.

  2341. Certainly.

  2342. Where do you

  2343. see that?

  2344. Not necessarily

  2345. evolution,

  2346. per se,

  2347. but where

  2348. do you see

  2349. them kind

  2350. of interacting?

  2351. Yeah,

  2352. yeah,

  2353. I mean,

  2354. I think,

  2355. so,

  2356. that's a great

  2357. question.

  2358. I actually

  2359. had a

  2360. whole talk

  2361. on science

  2362. and faith

  2363. that you

  2364. don't need

  2365. to watch.

  2366. It's okay.

  2367. As it was

  2368. coming out

  2369. of my

  2370. mouth,

  2371. I was like,

  2372. I don't

  2373. do that.

  2374. Anyways,

  2375. but yeah,

  2376. a lot of

  2377. the things

  2378. I was

  2379. talking about

  2380. in that

  2381. talk were

  2382. discussing

  2383. sort of

  2384. those

  2385. overlaps.

  2386. So,

  2387. for instance,

  2388. there are a lot

  2389. of things in

  2390. science that

  2391. we take for

  2392. granted that

  2393. really don't

  2394. make any sense

  2395. unless you

  2396. put it into

  2397. a larger

  2398. world view.

  2399. So,

  2400. for instance,

  2401. why are there

  2402. regularities in

  2403. nature?

  2404. Why do

  2405. things actually

  2406. make sense

  2407. to the human

  2408. mind?

  2409. How can we

  2410. use math

  2411. to actually

  2412. describe things?

  2413. Right?

  2414. Because if math

  2415. isn't an actual

  2416. deeper reality,

  2417. if there isn't

  2418. actually a deeper

  2419. order to reality,

  2420. then math is

  2421. just a human

  2422. construct made

  2423. by man.

  2424. Right?

  2425. And so,

  2426. there really is

  2427. no reason we

  2428. should expect

  2429. for there to

  2430. be such deep

  2431. harmony between

  2432. what we conceive

  2433. of in our

  2434. mind and what

  2435. is actually

  2436. out there in

  2437. reality.

  2438. Right?

  2439. So,

  2440. the fact that

  2441. there's

  2442. regularities,

  2443. the fact that

  2444. there is

  2445. consistency,

  2446. there's all

  2447. kinds of

  2448. things that

  2449. are involved

  2450. in the

  2451. scientific

  2452. enterprise that

  2453. we take for

  2454. granted but

  2455. really don't

  2456. make any sense

  2457. if there's

  2458. such a thing

  2459. as purpose,

  2460. teleology,

  2461. a reason why

  2462. things should

  2463. happen,

  2464. and an order

  2465. to the

  2466. universe.

  2467. Does that

  2468. make sense?

  2469. So,

  2470. I think there's

  2471. a lot of

  2472. ways that

  2473. science and

  2474. my faith

  2475. interact.

  2476. I mean,

  2477. the understanding

  2478. of creation,

  2479. I feel like,

  2480. is just something

  2481. that we all

  2482. want to know.

  2483. We all want

  2484. to know where

  2485. we came from,

  2486. and as a

  2487. scientist,

  2488. I feel like

  2489. I confront

  2490. this more

  2491. often in my

  2492. everyday life

  2493. than the

  2494. average person.

  2495. So,

  2496. I think probably

  2497. that's where a

  2498. lot of my

  2499. interest comes

  2500. from.

  2501. Does that

  2502. answer your

  2503. question,

  2504. or did I

  2505. just totally

  2506. avoid it?

  2507. You did.

  2508. I'm sure you

  2509. have a lot

  2510. more to say.

  2511. Definitely.

  2512. Yeah.

  2513. Well,

  2514. it's about

  2515. three minutes

  2516. until church,

  2517. so why don't

  2518. we break and

  2519. head downstairs.

  2520. Thank you so

  2521. much,

  2522. guys.

  2523. Thank you so

  2524. much,

  2525. guys.

  2526. Thank you so

  2527. much,