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Um, but yeah, good to be with you Crowd.

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Good to be with everyone.

Very good.

We are in the midst of a, um, a becoming whole series.

We've looked at.

Lots of different family relationships, community friendships, and tonight we are

gonna explore the topic of hospitality.

And I've left, I've been a brilliant host this evening.

'cause I, I, I've left the people that were coming around to dinner to come host,

uh, such a giver church on hospitality.

The irony is not lost on me at all.

Um, but yeah.

So we're, we'll be hearing from Dan Orange, uh, in a little

bit on, uh, on hospitality.

Um.

This is very interactive.

Um, we're, we're a pretty informal bunch.

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If, um, if questions arise, uh, put 'em in the chat.

Uh, we'll try and deal with 'em later after Dan's, uh, brought his talk.

Uh, we'll have Conversation Street where we will talk about it and discuss.

Mm-hmm.

But before we do that, Matt hospitality.

Yeah.

Did you, did you grow up in a, in a hospitable house?

What do you remember about hospitality as a kid?

Um, I, I, you see, I, like you will, I grew up in the seventies and eighties, and

so that meant front doors weren't locked.

Yeah.

You just, you went into each other's houses.

Right.

And it, it just, I think it was a very different time.

Um, and I miss that.

Yeah.

Um, if I'm honest with you.

Um, so yeah.

When I was growing up, it was nice just having that.

You know, and um, I grew up in a single parent house, but my mum was always great.

You know, just we throw some extra potatoes in the chip in the fryer

'cause we had a fry and we'd make chips or we'd make crisp sandwiches

or, you know, equally healthy food.

And it was just great.

Um, but I think how we do hospitality now is different to

how we did it when I grew up.

Yeah.

But I, I mean, yeah, I loved it.

That whole era of just bouncing back into, now it's like, if you wanna go Antoine's

house, it's like, can I come round?

Is that okay?

You sure?

I don't wanna, it's booking about months and a bu can we do this?

Whereas before we just walk, hello everybody.

I'm yeah.

Yeah, it's, it's a real shame.

Yeah, no, I, I love that.

I'm very much had a household like that as well, which I, I'd

really appreciate, uh, that memory.

One of the nicest things actually, and I, I haven't fact-checked this

so someone can correct me, but, um, I was talking about, um, Hogmanay Oh,

okay.

With, with some glaswegians once, I can't remember where

I, was it sauna or something.

But, um, anyway, that by the bye, so I was just asking about, well, the hog

Monet, 'cause it's, you know, it's got the reputation of lots of drinking, he said.

Traditionally, so back in kind of seventies, eighties, they would, uh,

the guys would come back from the pub.

Nine o'clock shop pubs would close.

Yeah.

Everyone goes back home and there's just a big pot of stew.

What we, we have scouts in Liverpool, but just a big pot of

stew and you just go round people's houses all night eating stew.

Nice.

And like everyone would have a pot of stew and the doors were open.

Yeah.

And, and that's the kind of Yeah.

Yeah.

It, it, it, I love that hospitality.

Yeah.

No, that's great.

Ellis says in the comments, uh, I'm quite interested in this

topic, Dan, just so you know.

No pressure.

Um, because I'm an introverted person and really enjoy my own

space and being away from people, hospitality is quite challenging to me.

Um, so Ellis, we are gonna get into that.

Yeah.

Let's, let's chat about that

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Okay.

Well, without further ado, um, let's hear from Mr. Dan Orange.

Welcome, Dan.

It's very good to have you.

Thanks very much.

Yeah.

And, uh, look forward to what you are, what you've got

for us on, uh, hospitality,

on hospitality.

So, yeah, welcome everyone.

Um, I've had a lot, a little, a little sort of briefing

about hospitality, but yeah.

When someone says hospital hospitality to you, what do you think of?

Is it something that you enjoy being a part of?

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Is it?

Yeah.

Is it something you enjoy being a part of, you enjoy being hospitable,

having friends around for, for dinner and food on and fun?

Or do you think, um, I love being invited around to houses, enjoying others' food.

I can enjoy, um, some company and, and don't have to cook.

So much to talk about being part of a Hospi hospitable community.

I dunno why

being, being part of a hospital community,

I gotta talk of Hospi Hospi Hospital.

I don't even say it.

I can't say it.

So, yeah.

Um, but, or perhaps like Elli has just said, perhaps you feel

a bit sort of left out of this.

Um, you always seem to do things solo and you might enjoy.

More enjoy your own companionship and introverted.

So this hospitality thing can seem, um, a bit stressful and not your cup of tea.

For me, I grew up in a pastor's, as a pastor's child in a house

church, and there were always people in our house and I loved it.

We had so many people that we called aunties and uncles.

That's just how my childhood was.

Some of those people I still know now and still see them as an extended family.

Auntie Elin, uncle Mike.

I gave my life to Jesus in a small meeting of a few kids with Aunt Elin

and others telling us about Jesus.

Some visitors in the house were not family.

Some had issues.

Some were there because they were troubled and needed comfort,

but they were all welcome.

And perhaps, perhaps you've enjoyed Matt and his family's hospitality.

I bet if you rocked up to Liverpool and knocked on his door, he'd say, come on in.

Would you like something to eat?

And probably do a nice burger.

I've enjoyed his hospitality more times than I can remember, and I love it.

And it doesn't have any motive behind it.

It's just love.

Which makes me think perhaps when we've experienced hospitality that we don't

like that's uncomfortable or forced, it's because there's an alternative.

Motive behind it.

It's a party for the presence that hopefully being brought or it's an

invitation in the hope that this will be reciprocated or it's the invite to

get your point across your message, your religion, your point of view.

I was talking to friends this week about this talk and what it was

about, and she said in response that it, it has been said that we're,

we're like a, we're a very connected generation, but physically distant.

I think that recent events have just increased that.

I mean, COVID forced that distance.

It actually said We're safer on our own, but it's okay.

We can zoom with each other.

So introverts relaxed and extroverts created Zoom pub

quizzes, but it wasn't all bad.

I mean, many of us wouldn't be listening.

I'd be part of Crowd if COVID didn't make things sort of a bit more normal.

So perhaps proof that God can truly make things good for those that love God.

When you think of COVID, perhaps in the uk, you remember the massive toll

it took on the hospitality industry.

The business of meeting in person was and eating together was really hit hard.

Who remembers Eat out to help out in the UK to try and keep the hospitality

industry from completely collapsing?

We all had half price meals paid for by the government.

So we could eat together and help the industry perhaps not necessarily

limit the spread of the disease, but they were different and odd times.

But my point is, hospitality is needed and it's been affected in so

many ways, and the Bible has a lot to say about hospitality, about being

generous, being open, being welcoming.

In fact, in the book of the laws in the Old Testament, Leviticus, there's a law.

God has been talking through Moses earlier in the chapter and saying

how we should love our neighbor.

As ourselves, the verses Jesus quoted when he was on the earth, excuse me.

And then later these verses in chapter 19.

So I'll read them out.

When a stranger OGs with you in your land, you should do him no wrong.

You should treat the stranger OGs with you as the native among you,

and you shall love him as yourself.

For you.

We're strangers in the land of Egypt.

I am the Lord your God.

So, yeah, I'm the Lord your God.

Treat the foreigner, the stranger as one of your own.

Remember, you are a foreigner too.

It's a command.

I am the Lord your God.

That's God saying.

I'm speaking this.

And we nowadays may not have been physical foreigners like the Israelites

who are in Egypt, but those of us that come to know Jesus, we were outsiders.

Outsiders, and now we're part of his family.

This is for us as much as for the Israelites.

Towards actual strangers of foreign foreigners as well as those that

are not part of God's family.

And even before this command, earlier in the Bible, Abraham who was living

in his tent and spending time with God and that something happened.

So let's read this other passage as well.

This is Genesis 18, and the Lord appeared to him by the Oaks of

Mara as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day.

He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing

in front of him when he saw them.

He ran from the tent to meet them and bowed himself to the earth and said,

oh Lord, if I found favor in your sight, do not pass by your servant.

Let a little water be brought and wash your feet and rest yourselves under the

tree while I bring a morsel of bread.

It may refresh yourselves.

And if you've had that.

You may pass on since you've come to your servant.

So they said, do as you have said.

And Abraham went quickly into the tent to Sarah and said,

quick three, Sears of fine flour.

Knead it and make cakes.

And Abraham ran to the herd and took a calf tendering good and gave it to

a young man who prepared it quickly.

And he took curds and milk and the calf they had prepared and set it before them.

And he stood by the tree while they ate.

So Abraham was communion with God and these strangers come.

This is an event that approved of, by God, set up by him.

The first thing he does is run to meet them.

This is Abraham, who's a wealthy, elderly man, even at this time.

And, um, they were strangers, but he just fed them, not just what he was eating.

He said, you know, a few morsels of bread, but he went out, he got the

good stuff and served them involved.

His wife, probably the servant, the young man to help, and they all got involved.

And if you read further on these Messengers Revealed plans to Abraham.

Abraham.

Abraham wasn't expecting to receive for this, you know, this gift.

He just, but he did.

He did receive, he didn't know what was happening.

But people came round and it welcomed them with open arms.

And then in the New Testament and the letter to the Hebrews, the

writer talks about this event.

And for Christians, it's a really very often quoted versed, and it says this.

Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers.

For thereby, some have entertained angels unawares.

He's referring to Abraham and his guests.

Abraham didn't know at the time, but they were angels.

They had come to give an important message about him and his wife

that they were gonna have a child.

When we entertain strangers, we don't know how much we're doing.

Sometime it's an actual meeting with angels, sometimes

it's just food, sometimes.

It's the love that those people at the time needed more than anything For me,

this says, God, I don't wanna miss out on being your servant, being your hands

and feet and provision on this earth.

How about that?

How about entertaining angels?

Sounds pretty cool, doesn't it?

But mostly it's just day to day.

It's loving without perhaps ever seeing a reward because it's what we want to do

because it's what we've been taught to do.

I mean.

Is it a necessary thing or is hospitality a means to an end?

Seems a bit harshest statement.

So what do I mean by that?

By that, okay, so I'll be hospitable and I'll talk to strangers that they need to

hear the gospel, but only for that reason.

Sometimes I know.

I felt that perhaps you've been on the end of a conversation like this.

Sometimes, perhaps I've interpreted a talk in church that way.

We need to tell people about the good news of Jesus.

Invite them into your house or meet with them.

Go for walks to tell them about Jesus.

They're my, they're not really my kind of people, but if I must, I will.

Hmm.

So should we be hospitable to share the gospel or is sharing

the gospel being hospitable?

I hope you see the difference there.

The good news of Jesus needs to be more than words, more than religion.

It has to be transforming.

It's not a bad thing to tell the gospel, but if our motive isn't

genuine, isn't love, then is it?

Is it real?

Jesus doesn't hold back with the fact that the gospel is not just

words, it's actions as well.

Let me read this in Matthew 25.

Then the king will say to those on his right, enter, you who are

blessed by my father, take what's coming to you in this kingdom.

It's been ready for you since the World's Foundation, and here's why.

I was hungry and you fed me.

I was thirsty and you gave me a drink.

I was homeless and you gave me room.

I was shivering and you gave me clothes.

I was sick, and you stopped a visit.

I was in prison, and you came to me.

Then those sheep.

I going to say, master, what are you talking about?

When did we ever see you hungry and feed you thirsty and give you a

drink, and when did we ever see you sick or in prison and come to you?

Then the king will say, I'm telling you the solemn truth.

Whenever you did one of these things to someone overlooked

or ignored, that was me.

He did it to me.

And then Jesus goes on to say, what will happen to those that didn't feed the

feed and clothe and visit and tell me?

And, and I tell you it's not good.

In fact, you don't want to be in that group.

It's probably one of the most stark warnings.

So go, go read that for yourself.

That's a, that's another talk.

So this seems to be, this seems to be part of the good news of Jesus.

It's part of his work in us that he brings out these, these works,

these works and things themselves.

They don't, they don't atone.

For what we've done.

They don't overcome the rift of sin between us and God, that huge debt.

It's only his grace that does that.

The Bible says, we're saved by grace, but says, without

faith, without works is dead.

So without works, our faith is dead.

Or faith with works is life.

If we are living without works, is this because we're not

allowing God's grace to change?

And transform us.

Now, I don't want you to come away from this talk and think, I can't

do this to be, to be disheartened.

It's, it's okay for extroverts.

It's okay for Danny can talk about this stuff and do this stuff.

He's, he's got a wife that can cook and just people can come and enjoy her food.

Truth to be told, I wrestle with this, these situations and

the callings all the time, but.

It's definitely not my goal to think I'm forcing this on you.

My goal is to let you know, and I'm talking to myself here, my goal is to

let God into my practical life as well as my spiritual life for God to not be

a, a religion, but to be, to be life.

Perhaps you've tried as a Christian or as a part of your religion or

your lifestyle and it's fatigued.

You always trying to do the right thing.

It's, it's drained you.

The message version of the Bible puts.

Jesus, his words this way.

So Matthew 11 says this, are you tired, worn out, burned out on religion?

Come to me.

Get away with me, and you'll recovery your life.

I'll show you how to take a real rest, walk with me and work with me.

Watch how I do it.

Learn the unforced rhythms of grace.

I won't lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you.

Keep company with me and you'll learn to live freely and lightly.

So come to Jesus, be, expect him for what he has for you and what he

wants to do through you and in you.

It can mean stepping outta your comfort zone and doing

things you don't normally do.

And there's, there's a cost.

That's true.

Um, when I was preparing this and praying about this talk, the first

story that came to me was none of the verses that I've mentioned already.

It was this story and it's told in, uh, the Gospel of Luke and the gospel of Mark.

Jesus is in a someone's house and he is preaching.

So someone has let him stay in their house.

They've been very hospitable.

There may have been food, he might have slept there, and it could be

the owner just said, come on in.

Anyway, he's there, he's preaching.

It's crowded.

There's no room for any more people to come in, and some guys have a mate who's

paralyzed and they want to heal him.

They want Jesus to heal him, and they can't get in to see

Jesus, so they climb on the roof.

They smart start dismantling the roof.

They're damaging this guy's house.

They made a hole big enough to get the guy through, drop him down in front of Jesus.

An amazing, an amazing miracle is now possible.

Jesus forgives him of his sins and heals him.

The guy picks up his stretcher and he's off.

Everyone amazed and everyone's happy.

Even the owner, even the guy that's hospitable and opened his house.

I dunno anything about him.

What was his response to tell, you know, to this?

Did he tell everyone, guess what Jesus did.

A miracle in my house.

I think I might get one of those blue plaques and put it on the wall.

Paralyzed man healed here.

I was able to be a part of this gospel of Jesus.

Or was his response, who's paying for my roof?

Who's gonna fix that?

I know I want to be in, in that first response, the blue, blue plaque response.

But I'm sometimes I'm too worried about.

While it would do to my house, my reputation, my my family, God can

bring amazing things outta what we may think is just an awkward time,

something we could have done better.

I need to remember to just start to just ask someone if they

want to come for lunch, do they want to go for a walk or a chat?

Go for a coffee.

Doesn't have to be anything big or extravagant, but it

does need to be genuine.

Being hospitable.

As we saw in Jesus' statement, I was homeless, I was shivering.

I was Hungry isn't always about inviting people to your own

house, it's often going to them.

One of the biggest organizations feeding the homeless and helping

those who have fallen to their lowest is the Salvation Army.

Salvation Army was set up by a husband and wife, couple, William and Catherine Booth.

And they saw that those in the slum, so it's back in Victorian times in the days

of, um, Dickens and Jack the Ripper, and they saw people really needed help.

They saw that the gospel was to give them hope and help and physically help them

out of prostitution about drink poverty.

They preach the gospel in Word and Indeed and the Salvation Army.

It's in so many countries now, being hospitable to bring the good news of

Jesus to all feeding the hungry clothing, the homeless, visiting the prisoner.

This couple went against the culture of the time and they stood

up for those that had nothing.

I came across this quote from William Booth and he said, I'm

not waiting for a move of God.

I am a move of God.

Wow.

So not just waiting but saying.

I'm gonna get on with it.

I've talked here mostly about, about doing things, about being hospitable,

about the people that have done, how about those that accept hospitality?

Are you someone who finds it hard to accept gifts, finds it hard to allow

someone to do something for you?

If you get a present from someone, your first thought

isn't, oh, that's so kind, man.

I love that you thought of me.

It's, oh, no.

Now I have to get them something and I can't think of what to get

them, or I should have thought about that before they did.

Part of God's gospel isn't just about giving.

It's about receiving.

This good news were brought to us by the son of Man.

He lived and served and gave his life for us, but you also accepted gifts.

Mary washed his feet.

Zia said, come in, have a meal.

It says The son of man had nowhere to rest his head.

He relied on hospitality.

He says the church is the bride.

We're going to be part of the feast.

So let's not be British in our receiving.

Um, let me explain what I mean.

You go for a meal and the person with you says, I'm paying.

And the British answer is, no, you can't pay.

I'll pay.

Don't be silly.

And there's this like backwards and forwards when

the person actually wanted to.

Be a giver.

So it's always great to be able to, to receive that gift, enjoy God's

blessing and being on the receiving end.

The people at the house with the paralyzed man, they were in the

room, their guests allowed them in, and they received his welcome and

they got to see the miracle too.

If you can't receive, then you're not allowing someone to give.

There's got to be time to be on both sides of hospitality.

There are seasons too when receiving is a big part of life.

I think we've talked about it quite a few times on Crowd, where at our church,

if someone has a baby, then the family's here cook food and take over meals.

It's an opportunity to be a receiver perhaps.

Perhaps you are ill or struggling financially.

You've asked God for help.

Don't let him worry about worry.

When God helps you through someone else, the money or the provision

probably isn't gonna appear magically.

Um, before you, a friend or a neighbor may be God's hospitality to you.

God has gifts for us.

If we can't receive from others, we might find it hard to receive from God.

I want to finish with some final thoughts.

Let's allow God's good news is gospel to not be a head.

Or a religion thing because that's no good.

It won't change or save us.

It's got to be a heart thing.

We need to allow him to transform our minds and our actions.

My takeaway from this is to ask God who, who is the stranger?

Who is the foreigner that I can be hospitable to?

Sometimes it's not always easy and or comes at the most inappropriate.

The time, the passage I read about Abraham entertaining his guests.

Well, the chapter before it, the last thing recorded was that Abraham's was

about Abraham's covenant with God and that he was circumcised at 99 years old.

And then the next thing we read, he's running to his guests.

It's not always comfortable, but it's often rewarded in, maybe not even

in this life, but it is in the next.

Thank you very much.

Back to, thank you Dan.

Thank you very much.

As I said, this is, um, this is part of a whole series of becoming whole, and I

love what you said, Dan, that, that let God into your, into your practical life.

Yes.

As well as your spiritual life and.

And, and that's what a lot of these, these different talks feel like.

It's, it's, uh, the Bible is very practical, um mm-hmm.

About lots of things.

And I feel like this really follows on from the, the talk last week

actually about loving the neighbor.

Um, and, and there was some homework, um, I believe last week about, yeah, just

reflecting on how we, how we think about others, um, and, and how we can speak

blessing on those that, that, uh, that.

We don't necessarily naturally, um, get on with.

I think what strikes me about hospitality in the Bible is

that it's not just your friends.

And I think that there's actually a,

yeah, absolutely.

There's actually a passage, and I meant to look it up actually.

I, I can't remember it, but it's like, well, don't just invite your friends

'cause they'll just invite you back, invite the stranger into your house.

So it's, it's very much an extension of loving, loving your neighbor.

Um, so thanks.

Thanks, Dan.

That's great.

Um, so yeah, man, what did you make?

Any thoughts?

Loved it.

Yeah.

I love, I love the talk about hospitality because I think we can all

pinpoint examples of when we've mm-hmm.

Received good hospitality and gone Oh, that's amazing.

And we've, we've probably all given hospitality in a good way

and gone Oh, that's amazing.

Do you know what I mean?

And it's like, you kind of go, there's, I think there's something quite.

Godly quite divine about the whole thing.

Do you know what I mean?

And, um, you kind of wonder what hospitality was like

with Jesus, don't you?

Mm-hmm.

At least I do.

Do you watch, you watch the chosen, right?

Yeah.

You see the, the food and the things that he does and, and you kind of think, yeah.

I just, the one thing I really, really want to do when I get

to heaven is I want to eat.

The fish, which Jesus barbecues, right?

Because there's this thing isn't the story where he raises from the dead

and he's this barbecuing fish on the beach and his, his sort of, his

disciples come and eat that fish and you know, that's gonna be good fish.

Yeah.

And, and I'm not a big fish fan, but I, you just know that's gonna be good.

And I think, I just love the conversations about hospitality.

I love how in the Bible so much of it.

Is just around food.

Mm-hmm.

Do you know what I mean?

So a, there's always food somewhere and it's the sim

lot of community around

food.

Yeah.

A lot community.

Lot of simplicity about it just being with people.

Yeah.

Um.

So, yeah, I, I'm, I'm

so, so, so talking fish.

I'm gonna ask you to, I'll give you a few moments to think about your,

your best hospitality, receiving hospitality, your, your best moment.

Ooh.

So one of the, one of the ones that really strikes me about, about that whole

kind of stranger thing, and actually it's fried fish, so well done segue.

Um, I had the immense privilege of being out in Kyrgyzstan a number

of years ago, um, with, with a friend of mine and, and my wife.

And we were visiting a friend who was working out there.

And, uh, we went on this crazy road trip.

It's, it's very alpine, Stan, most of its mountains in this old larder taxi.

It, it used to be kind of part of the Soviet unions, this very old

Russian car, which was almost held together with bits of elastic.

And we were kinda just up over these alpine passes.

Anyway, we, we rock up at this very high lake.

I don't know how high it was.

Um, thousands of feet up in the mountains and he just kind of comes off the,

what was really a track trundles across the grass and just stops at a year.

Mm. And just says, oh, we'll get out here.

He like, do, do you know these guys?

And No, no, no.

They were just, we'll just pop in here.

And, and we just went into this year and there was like.

All these, these guys sitting round.

And, and it was one of those, one of their, one of these, um, guys'

birthday, uh, 'cause they got to the, the summer pastures and uh, so there

was a bottle of vodka, which was his birthday present, and they invited us in.

They made space for us around the fire in this year.

And the wife was cooking fish that had literally just caught in the lake.

We were just by this lake.

Complete strangers, the three of us, plus the taxi driver just sat down and

were being fed, uh, vodka and toasting this guy's health and, and fried fish.

And it was just like, this is crazy.

You would not, you would not get this visiting the uk This is like a sort of

tourist, uh, tourist thing that's gotta be very, very staged in our culture.

And it really blew me away.

Just the, uh, a the generosity of people who didn't have very much.

Yeah.

But, um, and just how natural it was.

It was just like a, yeah.

Very natural Welcome.

So.

Have you got an example what good hospitality feels like?

Um, yeah, I think for me it, again, it all revolves around food.

So all the examples in my head are, are usually around food, um, or some event.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, um, I, there's a friend of mine, guy called Tim in Jersey, and

I remember the first time we met him, it was just come around to the house.

He cooked this amazing food.

We instantly became friends and we're still friends now.

Right.

And you just kind of think.

It was so simple.

Mm-hmm.

And I think for me, one of the things that we, we tend to do in

our own heads is overcomplicate it.

Yeah.

Right.

So we're having people around.

Right.

The house has gotta be clean.

Mm-hmm.

That was always one of the things that always used to poke me.

You know, you spend four hours cleaning the house of people who could care

less whether your house was clean.

Right.

Absolutely.

And.

A bit like you'd spend four hours cleaning the house before you go

away on holiday, just in case someone breaks in and is not clean anyway.

But you, you, you clean the house.

You can tell it's

men hosting.

Yeah.

Yeah, you can.

Sharon says to me, you should probably have a woman on hosting

tonight to balance it out.

But I was probably, I like, yeah, you're right.

Um.

But we do tend to overcomplicate it, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

The house has gotta be clean.

The food has got to be like the most amazing food that you've ever eaten

and all the things like you talked about, it was fried fish and vodka.

Mm-hmm.

And you, you didn't mention once about the house being clean or not clean.

It was just about the welcome.

Yeah.

And I think that for me is the beauty of it, is the simplicity.

Mm-hmm.

And all the good examples in my head of when it was spontaneous.

Mm

mm-hmm.

Or even when we were invited round, but it was simple.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, I feel uncomfortable going around someone, someone's house

knowing that they've done a big

C

meal.

No, it's a really good point.

And I think if you look at all the biblical examples of hospitality, a lot

of it is completely surprised, isn't it?

It's like the Abraham, the visitors, and it's, it's not a, it's not an invitation

that's in the diary for a month.

It's not

dinner party, is it?

No.

At,

at all.

Like a dinner party.

Is that that?

Yeah.

Like the staged Yeah.

It's not being, it's hospitable.

You've got food.

Yeah, but it's not.

But

people just rock up and they're unexpected, and yet they're welcomed.

And I think that's the sort of hospitality that

Yeah,

that is a, is a challenge for us.

I, and I remember talking about that.

So I, I grew up in a quite an open sort of house.

My mom was just inviting complete random strangers around the whole time.

Um, and, and it was quite an education for us, um, at, at at times.

Um, I mean, she would literally pick people off the street, um, who just

were looking a bit down their luck and like invite 'em back for dinner.

Um, amazing house to grow up in.

Mm-hmm.

Um, but I remember going around to friends' houses and, and that there

was this one particular friend and we used to go to the pub and we get a cab.

And then we'd come home to his and watch Red Dwarf videos

into the night.

And we'd always wanna go and just make some toast as you do

when you've been sat in the pub.

And he was like, oh, no, no, no.

You can't go in the kitchen, have to come into the posh dining room.

And it's like, your parents are in bed.

No one's gonna know.

But, and there was one day, I think like years into this friendship

when I was allowed into the kitchen.

Yeah.

And it was a complete mess.

And it was just like a family kitchen, you know?

Um, but he was, he was just petrified that that's really,

that somebody would find out.

And you're right, you just feel a bit awkward.

Yeah, you do.

If if like all the best China comes out when you're coming around, its like, yeah.

I don't really feel welcome here.

I, I feel sort of honored, but it's a bit,

yeah,

it's a bit weird

and I feel like I've gotta act a certain

way.

Well, exactly.

It kind of changes the tone of the, of the, the conversation, which is

why I love that kind of unexpected.

'cause you, you're sort of caught

Yeah.

As you are, you know, you just have to, there's no airs and graces.

You just have to be you.

It more, you are to be genuine as well, isn't it?

If it's that unexpected.

Yeah.

Like I remember with our kids.

When our kids were growing up, right.

We were like, there's a couple of things that we were in.

I know you guys are intentional in this as well, but we were like really intentional

in like who they hang out with.

Mm-hmm.

We wanted their, our kids to grow up with good friends because it's so

important in their, in their life.

And so we were like, right, if they were hanging out with their

friends, we wanted to make sure that if they were like all hanging out.

And they said, whose house should we go hang out with?

I always wanted their friends to go, let's go to your house.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

To my, one of my kids.

Yeah.

I wanted that to be the top of the list.

Yeah.

So I wanted to create an environment where that would happen.

We came up with this thing called fridge rights.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

And so we would say to kids, including Elias.

Yeah.

Um, we've not said it to Luke yet, although, I mean, he's

not grown up with our kids.

But, um, we'd said it to Ali said it to all the kids.

They ca there came a point where they came into our house and we'd just

go, listen, you've got fridge rights.

Mm-hmm.

Which basically meant they could open the fridge and take whatever they wanted.

Out the fridge as long as it wasn't alcohol.

Um, you know, or, or caviar, maybe not that we regularly

have caviar in the fridge.

I've

never seen caviar,

but this idea that to me is hospitality.

Yeah.

It's like the ability to come in and make yourself feel at home.

Yes.

Right.

I, I want to, when I go around someone else's house, I want to feel like I

can offer to clean the dishes, but also not feel as though I have to.

Mm-hmm.

Um, especially if I'm tired, but it's that I just wanna feel at home.

Yeah.

So that, that, that's a really good example.

And, and, and it'd be good to hear Dan as well, what, what, what those

kind of ingredients of hospitality that, that, that you think

from, from the talk you've done.

Um, but my mom would always get whoever came for lunch.

They just get 'em to do the washing up.

It's like you are part of the family.

You've come in, you just help out with the washing up.

Yep.

And no one's gonna be forced to do it.

But again, that as a, as a kind of a, um, going then to houses where

you are treated as and not guest.

That was, that really struck me of like, no, I'd, I'd far prefer actually

just to be able to do the washing up.

'cause, because you just feel part of the family.

Yeah.

I think that's a really good.

Um, I think it's a really important, it's a good example.

Yeah.

Really important.

So in, in looking through these biblical stories, then Dan, those, those kind

of, I mean, and we had an answer on the chat if you, if you look, look at

any more comments, Matt, um, about, well, how, how do you do this if you're

not into the kind of dinner party Yes.

Thing, which I think hopefully we're saying is that's not really hospitality,

that's not what it looks like.

But what are those elements that, that you can, uh, yeah,

I think the biggest thing that I felt when I was looking at was

that I mentioned before just that.

Genuineness that just, just be real with people.

Yeah.

Invite people around.

'cause you want to know about them.

Yeah.

Not just 'cause

Yeah, it's not

the events, it's about's the thing to do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is.

It's about the, it's about the guests and about that.

So that house where, um, the guy had let you know Jesus in

and the miracle had happened.

All those other people there were just.

Just part of it, weren't they?

Yeah, they probably helped.

Helped fix the roof.

You know these guys, well,

it probably did actually.

It's probably a

very, I've never thought about it just,

but I,

the

story

that's really interesting point.

Sonia said in the comments actually about that.

'cause I said, um, I put in the comment the guy whose roof got ripped apart.

If that was your house, which response would you honestly, have

a miracle happened in my house or.

Who's paying for the roof, uh, as you said, uh, no judgment here.

Luna was like, I would be.

Wow.

Did you see that?

Did you see that screaming up and down the street?

Uh, Sonya said I'd be praying it didn't rain before the roof was fixed.

We're in North Wales, so the timeframe is very limited.

Love it.

Nicholas said I'd be looking at how to get the roof fixed before they notice.

So, yes.

And in fact, Nicola went on to say, when I was talking about having a

messy house, people break into my house and they think I've been burgled,

which is great.

And then Alice said here, which I think is an interesting question, uh, statement.

I'd feel so rude taking something outta somebody's fridge,

right.

It's interesting, isn't it?

Yeah.

How, how long would it take before you were convinced that they really meant it?

I wonder, Alice, because I mean, yeah.

It, it's something you have to repeat.

'cause, because I mean, if you are, and, and I think this is a really good point.

We, we read the biblical stories of hospitality and actually

evening krg istan, the culture of hospitality is entirely different.

Yeah.

From, um.

From where we're at now and, and what you've been brought up in will affect

how you think about hospitality.

Yeah.

And, and how you do it, won't it?

Yeah.

And if, yeah, I can understand you feeling uncomfortable about, about

doing that because maybe that's just not been part of your experience.

And I think the challenge for us as Christians is to try

and be a bit countercultural and break down some of those.

But as well, there's all this kind of like, it's gotta be relevant.

Relevant to our culture maybe.

Yeah.

Because as you say, the point is that it's about the people Yeah.

And the people feeling comfortable and, and all the rest.

And so I think we have to be a little bit culturally attuned to Yeah.

You know, what's, what's expected.

Yeah.

As well as, as well as being countercultural.

That's, that's tricky balance.

It is.

It's an inter, like if I travel.

When I travel, well, not if, but when, when I travel, I love to stay with people.

Yeah.

In the places that I'm going to rather than staying in a hotel.

Yeah.

Oh, a hundred

percent.

Just there's something in my head which says, if I'm going somewhere

and I know someone there, even if I vaguely know them, I'd rather

stay with them than in the hotel.

Because you get to know them, don't you?

When you, when you go hang out with people in their house and you, we've,

we've struck up good friendships.

Um.

Got some really good friends in New Zealand, some who started out as

business clients, but whenever I'd go over there, I'd go and stay with them.

Mm-hmm.

It was great.

Mm-hmm.

When they, they've come, stayed at my house too.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and we'd be good.

Be, we'd become friends outta that.

And I think,

I guess my, let me ask you this question, chaps, right?

In the sense of, um, I think I'm fairly hospitable and I definitely

am challenged to be more hospitable.

I. How do you, where do you start?

If someone like Ellis, who's like quite introverted, loves their

own company, finds hospitality quite hard, where do you start?

I mean, you, you grew up in a, in a house where was completely not like that.

You grew up in a house where it's not gonna be like that.

You are not the most extroverted guy in the, on the planet.

No.

So I'm, I'm kind of curious how you deal with

it.

Yeah.

'cause when I was thinking about this, um, I'd put that bit about an introverted.

And I've definitely changed.

I ne would still would never say I'm an extrovert, but things have changed in me.

Mm-hmm.

Um, I would've easily just been happy to go to someone's

house and just not say a word.

Yeah.

And it wouldn't have been a problem.

Yeah.

I'm just happy just to be quiet and just hear people talking, you know?

So there's definitely been a change there, whether that's just getting older

or whether that's 'cause in my job, I've had to be forced to be talking to people.

Definitely think God has has helped me with that.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

But I wanted to, there's so much to say isn't there?

But in the talk I wanted to sort of also show that hospitality doesn't have

to just be, you know, food's great.

Yeah.

'cause you've got that.

It's a great way to talk, isn't it?

'cause you don't always have to be, don't always have to have eye contact.

You can look at your food and you can have proper conversations.

But if someone's like, I was thinking someone's moving house, you just say,

can you know, I'll give you hand moving.

Mm.

That's,

yeah.

That's being hospitable, isn't it?

Yeah.

I think it's really definitely different skills that some don't have to be talking.

It's a,

it's a really good point.

Um, and we, we've, we've had neighbors before who's, I mean, something like

the washing machine's broken down.

Yeah.

Or the water's off, or they haven't got a shower 'cause of work in the

house, and you're just like, well, we'll come and use, use our stuff.

Yeah.

That, that's fine.

And there's not.

Even really any interaction required.

It's just like I've got something that I could share.

Yeah.

So it it does go wider than the Yeah.

Than, than the meal for sure.

Um, and I think, I think, I think counting the stuff that you have,

whether that be your home, your food, the things you own as not just your own.

But as a resource that you can share with a community Yeah.

Of friends and family, but actually also of strangers.

Yeah.

Within reasons, I think.

I think that's where I think you're right.

That's, that's where it's getting to.

Yeah.

That's, that's the kind of the challenge for us.

Yeah.

And I'd also say Ellis, you know, just coming back to that question, if

you, if you struggle with hospitality, like I said earlier, keep it simple.

Yeah, absolutely.

Don't overcomplicate it.

Like you said, look at what you've got.

Like, um, Sonya put in the comments about having a stranger come around

their house to use the shower one time.

Yeah.

That might not be you.

That's totally fine.

Um, I, I, I, I get that.

Um, I remember waking up one day.

To a note by the side of the bed that Sharon had put there and saying,

by the way, if you find a strange guy in the back room, that's okay.

I said He could sleep there.

And I'm like, there's a, there's a story behind it, but Sharon's like

in the middle of the night while I'm fast asleep, letting strange fellas

in come sleep in our back room.

And so I'm like,

love that.

Okay.

Um, but I think, you know, you, everybody's got something and I think.

Food doesn't have to be complicated.

You don't have to do the big fat meals.

Mm-hmm.

Like when we do the footy, you guys bring the crisps.

Yeah.

It's crisps and beer.

Right.

I mean, it can't get any more simple, simple than that.

In a ca like last time you came around, I did poached eggs on toast.

Yeah.

Do you know what I mean?

And it, peanut butter, that was really up in the game.

That was,

it was fine cuisine.

Um, so I don't think it has to be complicated and I think it can just be

something as simple as a cup of tea.

Yeah.

And thinking about, well, if I have people around.

I won't know what to say.

Just get a card game, you know, get Monopoly or may not monopoly,

but you end up killing people with Monopoly, maybe Catan or

whatever, Do you know what I mean?

And, and, and use those things, um, as ways in to start building something.

And in fact, Sonya, um, one of the things that Sonya's does,

which I love, is actually she's.

Super hospitable on the WhatsApp community group, which we've got.

So the community group that Sonya's in, there's a WhatsApp group.

She's in there all the time asking how people are praying for

them and all that sort of stuff.

So it's not like you, it's exclusive of digital.

I think you can be hospitable in multiple places, just checking in with people.

Yeah.

But it just start simple and just, just take a step of faith.

It's gonna be a little bit uncomfortable if it's not usual bag, but I

think have a go see what happens.

Yeah, I was, I was thinking about, um, the Good Samaritan and, um, the story is that,

you know, that a, a rich sort of Pharisee walks and he just crosses over the road

and then a Samaritan comes and helps this, this guy that's been beaten up.

But I felt it wasn't the, the story wasn't necessarily what the Samaritan did.

The, the first thing was that the.

Pharisee walked and he went around, all we have to do is not go around.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

You know, we might not even be able to have had the money to take the guy to the

inn to pay for him, just not go around.

Yeah.

Just that, that start.

Yeah.

I mean, just actually seeing people mm-hmm.

Is, uh, as in like really.

Taking a moment to connect.

Yeah.

And, and see, see the situation.

Um, another, another answer to that, Alice as well, I mean.

You may be surprised in this, but I'm not, I'm not a big chatter.

I'm, I'm not a big, small talker, not, I do enjoy having people,

but

hang on.

So sorry, will, just one sec. Zoe, I want to go to you on this now.

There's no camera or microphone on Zoe who's on the tech desk now.

Zoe is my daughter.

She's really good friends with Will's daughter.

Would you agree with that last statement?

No.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Alright.

I'm, I'm sorry, I del just calling out.

I'm also deluding, but there's been times for sure when it's like, I cannot

imagine having the emotional energy.

'cause I am actually a bit of an introvert as well that I, I, I get to

the point of like, okay, I've had enough.

Yeah.

People, I just need to go and sit in a cave.

Um, and, but we are, we are blessed with a, a home that has space.

And there's been a couple of times in fact.

A, a few friends who are big into Eurovision, um, you, you'll known ca,

Kathy Gregory and, uh, and Claire Glare.

And they were like, you've got the biggest house.

Can we have a Eurovision party at yours?

Fantastic.

I'm like, I don't wanna host a Eurovision party.

It's like, no, no, you don't have to, you just open the door literally and, and.

Actually hospitality you can do is a bit of a team.

Yeah.

So it's like That's true.

That's true.

Kathy and Claire had the, had the Eurovision energy and they came with

their flags and their lists and their, and then we, we got people to bring food.

We didn't even have to cater.

We literally just opened the door of our home and then could

just be in the background.

But actually that's become an annual eurovision party where

we just do exactly the same.

Fantastic.

All the people who are really into it come a load of neighbors

come who aren't really into it.

Yeah.

But just come for the gab.

Everyone brings a bit of food, um, and great.

And so that's great.

There's bits, even if you are not, I think we, we think about

it very individually, don't we?

And actually the examples are quite individual, but you can

do this as a bit of a community.

You can do it as a family.

You can do it.

That's true.

With a couple of friends's.

Like, you know, I'm just gonna be in the kitchen.

I don't wanna talk to anyone, but I can make shortbread.

I'll make the shortbread and make the tea.

Yeah.

You go out there and do the kind of hosting bit.

Yeah.

So I think there's ways as well, you just, again, bring

what you've got there is, yeah.

Play tea gifts, like when.

I was thinking the other day when you guys came round with Luke and he

was cooking the sausage and egg Yes.

Muffins.

Right.

It's like, great.

Just get, I think getting everyone involved is really, really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I love that.

I think it's, um.

I, I, I dunno if I want the invite to the Eurovision party,

I open invite man now to come

knock on the door,

say hello.

It, it really splits into the two of, like, the people that are really into it,

they tend to go into the sitting room.

Yeah.

Tend to kind of project it in the kitchen as well, but everyone's just gabbing.

Yeah.

So, uh, no.

It'd

be a good crack.

No, it, it is, it is.

Good luck.

But I mean, just another point actually about.

About the culture.

So I mean, we've found very much that people crossing, crossing

your threshold is not a thing in our neighborhood particularly.

And actually people tend to be quite occupied with their families

and always busy and all the rest.

Um, and so we.

Well, how, how do you, how do you connect with people on your street neighbors,

but there's that kind of, there's that formality of crossing over the threshold.

Mm-hmm.

So we've got a little space outside of the front of our house and

so one year we just were like, let's do a little autumn barbecue.

Mm-hmm.

We just set the barbecue out at the front of the house so people

are literally walking along our road, can see that it's happening.

All they have to do is like come through a little gate by the hedge.

They don't have to come into our house.

They don't even have to come into our garden.

Yeah.

Get everyone to bring their own sausages.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And new supply, the barbecue.

And, and that has been fabulous.

And that's just been a, and neighbors have got to know each other who've

lived on the same street for years and never met each other.

Yeah.

And it's just been a really good, so finding things that are kind

of culturally relevant where you are getting some people that can

do the bits you can't do and Yeah.

Have fun.

Just have

a go.

It is, it is fun.

Yeah, it's fun,

I think.

I think it's great.

And I, and to just to sort of close the circle.

It's okay if you need time with away from people.

Yeah.

Right.

If you just a

hundred percent.

If you just need to just close the door for a little bit, you don't have to be

one hospitable like 100% of the time.

There are times where you just go like, Sharon, we have quite an open house.

I dunno how many people have keys to my house.

If the insurance company ever found out, I'm sure it'd be invalid, but

it's like you just, you, you'll sit there in the house and somebody

will have let themselves in.

Right?

And it's like, Hey, how's it going in your chat.

So Sharon.

One day, one week at the start of last year, just went, I want everyone

to know, she put it on the WhatsApp to everyone that's got keys do not

come to my house for this week.

I just want one week where no one other than me and the kids are in the house.

Mm-hmm.

And everyone was like, cool man, no

problem.

No problem whatsoever.

And I think people respect that, right?

And so, um, you may need more recharge time than, than someone

else, but I, I think you don't have to burn yourself out with it.

And I think you don't have to feel guilty if you're just.

Sat by yourself.

I don't know, just staring at the ceiling or reading a book or

whatever it is you need to do, right?

Yeah.

Sometimes people will come round and it's like, well, well, we're watching a movie.

Just come and watch a movie.

I'm not gonna talk to you.

Yeah,

come in.

By all

means.

That's the beauty of films, isn't it?

I'm just sitting and watching.

So join, join us for a bit.

Just be part of the family.

Unless Mona comes round or Jen and they just start talking through

the film and it really winds me up.

They'll start asking you questions, but don't do that.

That's wrong.

I need to stop that.

It's like, no, when the film is on, you watch the film.

Am I right?

I'm right.

That's what Zoe says.

So

we, we talked a lot about the, kind of the practicalities of hospitality.

I wanna finish with a, a question of what is the point?

What, why, why does the Bible talk about hospitality?

Why, what is, what is the importance?

That's

a great question.

I'm gonna start with you, Dan.

You wrote the talk.

I think the first thing that came to my mind was then we're all.

Made in his image.

Oh, good

answer.

If we're not help, if we're not hospitable, we're not

almost helping ourselves.

We you.

It's like something

missing.

We're not, we're not functioning as we were

made.

That's

a really good point.

Point made to be,

yeah.

Together.

Made in his image.

Yeah, yeah,

yeah.

No, I like that.

I'd say the same thing.

It's about community.

Mm-hmm.

There's, you read through the Bible, there's like a few things

which are really important.

Prayer.

Reading the Bible and community being with people.

Mm-hmm.

And just the language that uses like we are part of the body of Christ.

Yeah.

It's like it uses that more than it causes Christians and it's

all this inclusive language.

And there's community.

And community at the heart of community is hospitality.

Mm-hmm.

And hospitality is inviting people into that community.

And we know that that's what the bible is all about, like welcomes

everybody and just bringing people in from outside so it's not all cliquey.

And I think for me, I think about heaven.

You know, we pray, God, your kingdom come, your will be done

on earth as it is in heaven.

Heaven is not a place where me time is a thing.

I just, I can't see it.

Do you know what I mean?

I think there will be, we have a house in heaven so much.

Should the Don go?

Maybe I just wanna read a book that's, that's fine.

I think there's a lot of parties.

I think there's gonna be a lot of banquets.

I think we won't have to do a lot of washing up.

I just think there's gonna be.

Hospitality galore in heaven.

And I think that's just part of who God is.

Mm-hmm.

And who, yeah.

Who is made us to be.

And you read scripture and you hear about angels and this and that, and it's like,

God knows how to have a knees up man.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to see that.

And I think what we do down here is just to, in part a very small part

of what we've got coming in heaven.

That's great.

I think for me it, it's a really important statement that community,

because as you say, all are welcome.

And I think that the principle of, of welcoming in strangers means you are,

you are sharing time and a little bit of your life with someone you are not like.

Yeah.

And I think the, the alienation that you, I mean yeah, read quite a lot

about the kind of younger generation coming through in the kind of twenties.

Of just how alienated they are.

And it's not all COVID, but there's a sort of a, there's an individuality and

an online kind of distant connection, which means that, that you can,

you can quite easily live your life without actually ever engaging someone

that is not like you, unless it's in an online chat, which is not a

healthy place to have a relationship.

Um, and so I think, I think that's a really important symbol of God's kingdom.

The welcoming others in brushing, you know, having your corners

knocked off by conversations with people you don't agree with.

Yeah.

Just spending time with someone whose habits are very different

from yours, whose outlook, whose experience it is so important.

And I think as the church, as Christians, we really, really

need to be practicing hospitality.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's just a, a real important statement.

Absolutely.

I would agree.

So any, any, any more comments, any more questions to deal with on the chat?

Uh, no.

Just tie it and thanks to everyone that's commented, uh, Esther's come in.

Uh, happy Sunday everyone.

Uh, happy Sunday, Esther.

Um, but thank you for everyone that's commented.

It's been great.

Um, we are gonna do live lounge, uh, which is basically, I've put the

link in the, in the YouTube comments, dunno why I showed you my phone.

You can't see it.

Um, but it's Go Crowd Church slash meet.

So the, in a couple minutes when we end this.

Open up your computer, just go to that URL, um, and come meet us in what we

call live lounge, where we're just gonna chat for like 10 minutes just

to say how's it to people online?

Um, you don't even have to have your camera on, but

it's probably nice if you do.

So we get to see.

But if you've not got a camera, just come talk in the chat.

Some people do that.

Um, Aiden, Sonya, they'll be in there.

I'll be in, well you guys, some one of us is gonna be in now

while the other one packs up.

But um, yeah, come join us in live lounge.

Sorry, that's my last comment.

Yeah, no thanks.

Thanks a lot about that.

Well, I wanna challenge you this week.

Think about what you have.

Think about keeping it simple.

As Matt said, maybe start small, but think about something you have that you

could share with someone where there's no expectation of you getting it back.

Mm-hmm.

I'm not talking lending things necessarily, but you know,

just, just offering some time.

It might be, yeah, without any expectation that that's, it's gonna be

reciprocal, but just because it's good to do, think about what you have, think

about how you can share it, and maybe think about the people you could share.

You could join together to share that thing.

Anything final from you, Dan?

No.

Well, thank you very much for an excellent talk.

As always.

You're

legend and uh, yeah, please do join us for the live stream, uh, next Sunday.

Check out Crowd Church, all the resources on there.

Uh, there's loads and loads of stuff over the years that we've

been doing this and uh, yeah.

Have a good, have a good dig in.

Uh, and yeah, thanks for joining us.

See you in the live lounge.

Bye-bye.