Sermon
Chris Jones
Publisher transcript
Transcript
-
1 Corinthians 11, quick walk, two big sections.
-
First section, verses 1 to 16.
-
Second section, verses 17 to 34.
-
And I wasn't even going to bother with the first section
-
until we had our community group the other night.
-
Thank you.
-
That's my sign of authority.
-
I forgot to have it on when I started this message.
-
I want you to know that it's okay for me to be out the front.
-
I'm operating under Steve's authority and the Archbishop's licence
-
or something like that.
-
We read the passage in our community group the other night.
-
We had a great discussion and towards the end,
-
somebody tentatively but also boldly said,
-
when you hear this read, it's really hard
-
for the hairs on the back of your neck not to stand on their end.
-
And they were reflecting, I think some of the words used were
-
that when we come to a passage like this,
-
it sounds old-fashioned, it sounds fuddy-duddy,
-
it sounds out of touch.
-
And in some ways, and even in worse ways,
-
for women, sounds like a considerable put-down.
-
And we could go off and have a...
-
You could talk heaps about all that
-
without even looking at the passage.
-
We've already found our positions,
-
we know where we stand,
-
and we're ready to interact with one another in our groups, aren't we?
-
And we haven't even read the Bible any further.
-
But what if he's dealing...
-
I think he's dealing with problems in both places,
-
but what we see in the first half,
-
he says, verse 2,
-
I praise you for remembering me in everything
-
and for holding to the teachings
-
just as I pass them on to you.
-
He's been involved in tradition,
-
the transmission of something which wasn't his,
-
it was given to him,
-
and he's tried to faithfully pass it on to them.
-
And however they've handled it,
-
he's saying, I really want to praise you for this.
-
So the first half of chapter 11 is reasonably positive,
-
and the second part is incredibly negative.
-
Verse 17,
-
In the following directives,
-
I have no praise for you,
-
for your meetings do more harm than good.
-
So if we look at the first half,
-
we're seeing they're praiseful,
-
and we move into the second half,
-
which we'll do in a minute,
-
I have no praise for you.
-
He's hot with anger
-
for the way that the Christians in Corinth
-
are behaving with regard to particular issues.
-
So come back to women.
-
We're not going to cover everything.
-
We got a reaction in our community group the other night
-
that sort of said,
-
this just seems so out of touch.
-
And yet what if,
-
what if we looked around our group
-
and we said, all of us have daughters.
-
What would it take for our daughter
-
to present shamefully out there in the community?
-
If we were at a community gathering the football
-
down in Westfield,
-
if they took their tops off and walked around,
-
would that be perceived as a shameful thing?
-
And most of us would say,
-
yeah, the whole of society would see that as shameful.
-
And we added to it and said,
-
yeah, well, even if they dressed really skimpily.
-
And then we started to talk about,
-
well, what about out the front of church?
-
And we've got a woman speaking to us
-
and her skirt's up, you know,
-
halfway up her thighs
-
and her cleavage is well down the middle
-
and the guys are paying a tremendous amount of attention
-
to everything that she's saying.
-
There's something culturally inappropriate
-
that gets in the way of the message.
-
And I think there are some dynamics at play here
-
that bear on that.
-
And I'm saying it now
-
because this is going to feed perhaps
-
into some of the things
-
that Sam might want to talk about tomorrow afternoon.
-
What I want you to see in terms of the text,
-
verse 4,
-
every man who prays or prophesies
-
with his head covered dishonours his head.
-
So there's a presumption there
-
that a man amongst in the church of God
-
may be praying and prophesying,
-
which is the forth telling of the word of God,
-
bringing the word of God to bear.
-
And he will present in a particular way
-
and possibly reflects the Old Testament glory
-
where Moses didn't have his head covered
-
in the presence of God.
-
But it may be wider than that
-
in terms of Corinthian culture.
-
And then verse 5, look really carefully.
-
Every woman who prays or prophesies
-
with her head uncovered dishonours her head.
-
Now what have they both got in common?
-
In both contexts,
-
a man or a woman
-
is praying
-
or is prophesying
-
in public.
-
They're doing the same thing
-
but they're presenting differently
-
in the cultural context.
-
And what if,
-
and I think I've read this
-
but I won't go to the cross on it
-
because I might get contradicted,
-
but what if in Corinth
-
to be a woman
-
out the front of the congregation
-
with your head shaven
-
said something about
-
your social standing,
-
maybe even your connection
-
with prostitution
-
or it said something
-
about you as a woman
-
in that setting,
-
might that not get in the way
-
of the prayer being prayed
-
or the word of God
-
being brought to bear
-
in terms of prophecy?
-
Now I don't think
-
I want to go
-
a lot further
-
than that.
-
There's obviously
-
bucket loads
-
that could be said
-
and here's your opportunity
-
to write your own questions
-
down right now
-
on your sheet
-
and they can be brought
-
back to panel
-
tomorrow afternoon.
-
That's the way we can deal
-
with some of this stuff
-
in this context.
-
It's fantastic.
-
But coming to the second half,
-
verse 17,
-
in the following directives
-
I have no praise for you.
-
Your meetings do more harm
-
than good.
-
So there's a big point
-
that he's working
-
from round about
-
verse 17 to verse 22.
-
He said,
-
you come together
-
in verse 20,
-
when you come together
-
it's not the Lord's supper
-
you eat.
-
For as you eat
-
each of you
-
goes ahead
-
without waiting
-
for anyone else.
-
Would you mind
-
paying attention to me?
-
Like I can see
-
everybody's eyes
-
gone over there
-
but I'd really like
-
your eyes back here,
-
okay?
-
And in verse 21
-
he literally says,
-
you're not eating
-
the Lord's supper,
-
you're eating to self.
-
You're doing
-
your own stuff.
-
And we know
-
from what Steve's
-
spoken about
-
in the last talk
-
that he's been
-
talking to us
-
about being a body
-
and so when we talk
-
about body
-
in Christian life
-
we're talking about
-
the corporate life
-
of the people of God.
-
We are a body.
-
We're a body
-
gathered today
-
and boy
-
it's an exciting body
-
to see gathered today
-
and to be gathered
-
in this way
-
and that people
-
have given time
-
this morning
-
to worship in this way.
-
Just awesome.
-
But he's saying
-
to the Corinthians
-
there's something
-
about this gathering
-
that's going on
-
with you
-
which is just out of
-
what are you guys doing?
-
We're just having
-
lunch.
-
We're having lunch.
-
I did say bring lunch
-
and I said
-
there's some really nice wine
-
on the table
-
there's some fantastic chocolates
-
and there's more stuff coming.
-
Well it's going to be great
-
to be able to share that
-
in a minute
-
and
-
This is ours.
-
This is ours.
-
Ours.
-
Well I don't care about
-
the leaf and the carrot
-
you can have that.
-
It's no ordinary salad.
-
It's no ordinary salad.
-
So what else is in the box?
-
The very best chicken.
-
Okay.
-
It's distracting
-
isn't it?
-
What was the word?
-
He says
-
verse 22
-
or verse 21
-
for as
-
as you eat
-
each of you
-
goes ahead
-
without
-
waiting for anyone else
-
and
-
one remains hungry
-
and another
-
gets drunk
-
Don't you have
-
homes to eat
-
and drink in
-
or do you despise
-
the church of God
-
and humiliate
-
those who have nothing
-
and what shall I say
-
to you?
-
Certainly I shall not
-
shall I praise you
-
for this?
-
Certainly not.
-
And then he goes
-
into those words
-
that we know
-
really well
-
from the communion service
-
he goes to a different body
-
he moves from the body
-
of Christ
-
in terms of his people
-
to the body
-
of Christ himself
-
and he says
-
for I received
-
from the Lord
-
what I also passed
-
on to you
-
the Lord Jesus
-
on the night
-
he was betrayed
-
took bread
-
Passover meal
-
remembrance
-
to the time in Egypt
-
the deliverance
-
from the great salvation
-
event of the Old Testament
-
and he took bread
-
and when he had given
-
thanks he broke it
-
and said
-
this is my body
-
which is for you
-
do this in remembrance
-
of me
-
and in the same way
-
after supper
-
he took the cup
-
saying this cup
-
is the new covenant
-
in my blood
-
do this whenever you
-
drink it in remembrance
-
of me
-
for whenever you eat
-
this bread
-
and drink this cup
-
you proclaim the Lord's
-
death until he comes
-
so he's directing
-
the attention
-
of the body
-
of Christ
-
to the body
-
of Christ
-
and he's doing
-
what has happened
-
right throughout
-
our message series
-
in Corinthians
-
he is
-
taking us back
-
to the way
-
of the cross
-
and he is reminding
-
the people of God
-
that we are
-
who we are
-
through the sacrificial
-
self-serving
-
act of our saviour
-
God the Lord Jesus
-
Christ who has
-
made us one
-
with him
-
so this is not
-
about which
-
tradition do we
-
go with
-
and have all
-
the church
-
arguments of
-
history that we
-
could conduct
-
or the method
-
or whether we
-
got an individual
-
cup or a wafer
-
or a piece of
-
bread
-
that's a load
-
of nonsense
-
it's a sideshow
-
but what is
-
the centre of
-
this show is
-
that there's a
-
body of believers
-
in Corinth
-
who are humiliating
-
one another
-
by the way
-
that they interact
-
with each other
-
they're calling
-
it the Lord's
-
supper
-
and they have
-
gone so far
-
away from the
-
truth that it
-
is an offensive
-
thing that they
-
do in the light
-
of what God
-
has done for
-
them
-
and so you
-
come into the
-
last part of
-
the passage
-
where there's a
-
warning there
-
it says whoever
-
eats the bread
-
or drinks the
-
cup of the
-
Lord in
-
unworthy
-
manner
-
we're not
-
talking about
-
little cups
-
of grape juice
-
and wafers
-
we're talking
-
about the
-
behaviour of
-
the body
-
of Christ
-
so whoever
-
behaves as
-
we gather
-
in this
-
corporate meal
-
so whoever
-
eats the
-
bread or
-
drinks the
-
cup of
-
the Lord
-
in unworthy
-
manner will
-
be guilty
-
of sinning
-
against the
-
body and
-
blood of
-
the Lord
-
and a
-
man ought
-
to examine
-
himself
-
he ought
-
to examine
-
himself
-
so should
-
the woman
-
before he
-
eats of
-
the bread
-
and chokes
-
on the
-
cup
-
or drinks
-
from the
-
cup
-
because
-
anybody
-
who
-
eats
-
and
-
drinks
-
without
-
recognising
-
the
-
body
-
of
-
the
-
Lord
-
eats
-
and
-
drinks
-
judgment
-
on
-
himself
-
and that
-
is why
-
many among
-
you are
-
weak and
-
sick and
-
a number
-
of you
-
fallen asleep
-
but there's
-
been a
-
breakdown
-
in corporate
-
body
-
life amongst
-
these people
-
and it's
-
expressed
-
very
-
practically
-
in the
-
way they're
-
conducting
-
themselves
-
when they
-
come
-
together
-
in this
-
meal which
-
they call
-
worship
-
and God's
-
judgment has
-
been upon
-
them but
-
he's encouraging
-
them to come
-
under God's
-
discipline rather
-
than on his
-
judgment and
-
so respond to
-
his words so
-
respond now as
-
sons and
-
daughters of
-
God and
-
repent
-
go back to
-
your seats
-
anyway
-
you did a
-
great job
-
can we give
-
them a hand
-
so is this
-
for our
-
community
-
group now
-
or
-
love
-
doesn't
-
work does
-
it
-
but then
-
so it's
-
very practical
-
in the end
-
verse 33
-
my brothers
-
when you
-
come together
-
to eat
-
wait for
-
each other
-
it's almost
-
a courtesy
-
isn't it
-
it's as
-
simple as
-
a courtesy
-
and it's
-
the other
-
person
-
centered
-
love
-
I'm not
-
just going
-
to fill
-
my guts
-
while you
-
all stay
-
hungry
-
and there's
-
probably
-
something
-
even bigger
-
going on
-
which is
-
it's almost
-
a display
-
of wealth
-
I've got
-
my sandwich
-
for today
-
but these
-
guys have
-
got
-
luxury
-
and so I
-
display my
-
wealth
-
and as I
-
display my
-
wealth
-
and who I
-
am in terms
-
of the people
-
of God
-
as we meet
-
in this
-
place
-
I exalt
-
myself
-
and by
-
implication
-
I humiliate
-
other people
-
around me
-
and God
-
calls us
-
to a different
-
standard of
-
behaviour
-
in the light
-
of the cross
-
and the way
-
of the cross
-
and what the
-
Lord Jesus
-
has done
-
for us
-
so if you're
-
really hungry
-
when you're
-
coming for
-
lunch
-
well he's
-
telling you
-
to go and
-
have a bit
-
of Maccas
-
before you
-
turn up
-
so you
-
don't have
-
to pig
-
out and
-
take yourself
-
ahead of
-
everyone else
-
he doesn't
-
say if you're
-
hungry
-
if anyone's
-
hungry
-
you've got
-
to give
-
him more
-
it says
-
if you're
-
coming to
-
this meal
-
gathered as
-
the people
-
of God
-
satisfy your
-
hunger out
-
there and
-
then come
-
and eat
-
in moderation
-
with everybody
-
else
-
be sensitive
-
to the
-
brothers and
-
sisters that
-
you have
-
in Christ
-
so that it
-
will not
-
result in
-
judgement
-
and when
-
I come
-
I'll give
-
further
-
direction
-
so complete
-
sense of
-
1 Corinthians
-
11
-
absolutely
-
not
-
but there's
-
a few
-
things going
-
on there
-
which are
-
good for
-
us to
-
heed
-
what
-
is
-
what
-
is
-
coming
-
soon
-
to